Comet Elenin, C/2010 X1

[Ba-ba-Ra]

Slightly off subject, but has anyone, besides me, noticed how many comets have been discovered by "amateur" astronomers. Elenin by an amateur Russian astronomer ~ but through the years I have noticed this many times. Just seems strange, that's all. I mean with all the big telescopes around the world and all the trained astronomers.

[Rocky_Shorz]

they have the ability to take daily images of the 360 view, run it through the computer to watch what moves, so it is really hard to believe they aren't all seen long before an amateur photographer can catch it.

[manny]

slightly off off topic...
do you think GOD is playing marbles

[Mandala]

Why would Laura make the comment about blood on their hands? What conclusions was she ex[ecting them to reach?

[Darla Ken Pearce]

Anyone who attacks Kerry's work for the sake of negativity is not offering us anything of value. Let her offer her own ideas instead of attacking the work and activities of others. Whether she wants to spin her wheels like this for nothing is a choice she's making but it's not productive nor fair use of our time. I noticed that she threw in a cheap shot about all UFO and Contactees being mentally unstable. Such blanket statements show a lack of respect and consideration for the legitimate experiences of others and is without basis in fact. To offer such judgments is not helpful nor fair play either. Shame on what's her name.

[EileenCookies]

I wonder if this is Kerry's first attempt to hold a private conference and charge people on-line to watch it?

It sure feels that way. Mistakes and all included. And we get to watch (oh what fun....not laughing).

Since it is a private conference (not free and open to the general public), it wasn't made available to the general readers nor is it ever scheduled to be.

So, on the one hand, Kerry found another revenue generator (fine) and on the other, we are now being ask to take sides on said conference, even though we are not even (as 'general public') allowed to see it or even comment on it (she asked people who watched it to not discuss it, at least not in a way that would interupt her revenue flow).

Sounds like this revenue streaming idea isn't so great.

I can't comment, I didn't feel I had the income available to just watch it for fun (not really into this particular discovery....for the moment) and I figured that eventually, the material would be disseminated freely.

Perhaps, it will generate her even more income, as people pay her to go back and watch it (now that there is a controversy).

Glad I am not taking sides on this issue (Laura Knight), or Kerry's new form of income (private only conferences).

eileen l.

[crosby]

hi EileenCookies, i do believe that somebody did post the interview on one of the other threads regarding this issue. or perhaps it was just parts of the interview. but i know it is out there. the participants had many interesting things to say regarding what is out there. and Darla, i agree with you, LKJ's statements are indeed a bit on the insidious side. but it makes me wonder what her motivation is to attack Kerry in such a manner. perhaps this 'food fight' will play itself out a bit more in the near future.
warmest regards, corson

[Calz]

Okay. For those that did not follow the link ... here is the "pie in the face" stuff.

Interesting that (for those not aware) Laura was interviewed by Kerry.

(note: the "blood on our hands" is anyone's guess ... but perhaps is related to the Heaven's Gate cult suicide mentioned regarding the Hale-Bopp comet mentioned)


The Ugly


Recently Kerry Cassidy of Project Camelot completed filming a "roundtable video conference" on Comet Elenin which included the likes of Richard Hoagland, Dr Joseph Farrell, Keith Hunter, Dr Carl Johan Calleman, and Andy Lloyd. At this moment, the conference in its entirety has not been released. However, selected portions have been released to the public. Most notable in this roundtable group is Richard Hoagland, of Cydonia fame (the 'face' on Mars) and his thesis that Elenin is actually a "controlled spacecraft" which is beaming Earth with gravitational torsion waves causing this increase in earthquakes. As Michael Salla of the Exopolitics Examiner reports: The main conference organizer, Kerry Cassidy, revealed that a number of anonymous whistleblowers had revealed that Elenin is a piloted spacecraft, and in fact was being trailed by a fleet of spacecraft. Hoagland claims that he has been confidentially told similarly by other whistleblowers of the artificial nature of Elenin. Dr Joseph Farrell agreed and claimed that Elenin was either an artificial object (controlled spacecraft) or a natural object placed in an artificial orbit. In probably the most significant observation of the conference, Hoagland claimed that Elenin was likely an active torsion field generator. Anonymous whistleblowers, huh?

Professor Nikolai Kozyrev, a Russian scientist was the originator of the idea of torsion waves. He developed an extremely sensitive apparatus to detect these waves, which he found occurred from any irreversible process. Due to this, his torsion waves were also denoted as "time waves" by some. He was certainly involved in some exotic physics, but the main point to understand here is that these torsion waves supposedly interact with matter in such a weak way that only the most sensitive devices could detect them. This has caused many scientists to wonder if what Kozyrev observed was even a real phenomenon at all. In any event, Hoagland doesn't appear to have grasped this concept (along with many others) if he truly believes that Elenin is emitting torsion waves which are somehow strong enough to cause earthquakes.

But really?... Elenin?... a piloted spacecraft?.. As in, UFO or 'alien' spacecraft? Forgive me for stating the obvious, but UFOs tend to be extremely elusive objects, popping in and out of reality with uncanny, synchronistic timing. We've been tracking the more notable sightings for years here on SOTT, so we have a pretty good idea what to expect from the UFO phenomenon overall. If UFOs are such slippery entities, why would they suddenly choose the form of a plainly visible comet to zip past the planets, when they typically can't even stay in our reality long enough for people to photograph them? Frankly, the assertion that Elenin is a "controlled spacecraft" isn't falsifiable, so there's little we can say about the matter. In other words, like much of what Hoagland claims, it's not even wrong.

What's unfortunate about relating Elenin to UFOs is that Kerry Cassidy, Richard Hoagland and the other folks involved with this Project Camelot "roundtable video conference" are setting up another scenario similar to what occurred with Comet Hale-Bopp in the late 90's. Back then some astronomers photographed a body trailing Comet Hale-Bopp, causing many to openly speculate that it might be a UFO. This ultimately led to the Heaven's Gate mass suicide. According to the Hale-Bopp entry on Wikipedia: In November 1996 amateur astronomer Chuck Shramek of Houston, Texas took a CCD image of the comet, which showed a fuzzy, slightly elongated object nearby. When his computer sky-viewing program did not identify the star, Shramek called the Art Bell radio program Coast to Coast AM to announce that he had discovered a "Saturn-like object" following Hale - Bopp. UFO enthusiasts, such as remote viewing proponent Courtney Brown, soon concluded that there was an alien spacecraft following the comet.[51] Several astronomers, including Alan Hale,[52] claimed the object was simply an 8.5-magnitude star, SAO141894, which did not appear on Shramek's computer program because the user preferences were set incorrectly.[53]

Later, Art Bell even claimed to have obtained an image of the object from an anonymous astrophysicist who was about to confirm its discovery. However, astronomers Olivier Hainaut and David J. Tholen of the University of Hawaii stated that the alleged photo was an altered copy of one of their own comet images.[54]

A few months later, in March 1997, the Heaven's Gate cult chose the appearance of the comet as a signal for their mass cult suicide. They claimed they were leaving their earthly bodies to travel to the spaceship following the comet.[55]
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Richard Hoagland claims Comet Elenin is a "controlled spacecraft"It should be noted that Art Bell and Richard Hoagland had a long-standing relationship for many years. It seems awfully fishy that Hoagland is now promoting a similar story about Comet Elenin given what transpired with Heaven's Gate over a decade ago. What Cassidy, Hoagland and others have started here is most shameful. Presenting Comet Elenin as a spacecraft sent to "usher in a New Age" is just plain irresponsible considering the recent history of such claims. The UFO and contactee community tends to house some of the more mentally unstable individuals. These claims by Hoagland as promoted by Cassidy seemingly amount to shouting "Fire!" in a crowded theater.

But you can't really count something as a total disinfo job until Sorcha Faal (a.k.a. David Booth) gets in on the action. In a recent article titled "Top US Space Expert Issues Catastrophic Warning On Comet Elenin" published on the whatdoesitmean.com website, Booth highlights Hoagland's claim by emphasizing this so-called "secret code" which agents unknown have apparently embedded in the JPL data on Comet Elenin. (Just a note, it should be obvious by now that Richard Hoagland should never be considered an "expert" on anything other than COINTELPRO activities.) The 'secret coding' referred to by Hoagland contained on the JPL website falls under the "Orbit Determination Parameters" statistics information block that lists the producer of the data as being "Otto Matic."

According to Hoagland's report, the significance of the name "Otto Matic" being associated with Comet Elenin lies with it only being able to be associated with a video game developed by Pangea Software, published by Aspyr Media and then released to the public on 11 September 2001, the same day the United States suffered a crippling attack.

Hoagland further asserts in his report that is "beyond coincidence" that Comet Elenin is scheduled make its closest approach to the Sun on the 10th anniversary of the 9/11 attacks, 11 September 2011, and that on 11 November 2011 (11-11-11) its orbit will carry it into a "grand alignment" between itself, the Earth and other planets in our Solar System. Seriously?!? Keep in mind this is whatdoesitmean.com, which tends to take the looniest of the loony claims, then wrap them up in a nice package with a few credible side stories. I mean, I'd like to think that most people can see right though this stuff for the lies, half-truths and psuedo-logic that it is, but I'm afraid that there are probably some people that will fall for stuff like this. Hoagland, by way of David Booth and Kerry Cassidy, appears to be leading a bunch of folks along on a wild goose chase! Needless to say, the disinfo machine appears to be running on all four-cylinders at this point!

[P.S. - The above appears to come from Elenin, Nibiru, Planet-X - Time for a Sanity Check (sott.net). -- Paul, Aug 16, 2011]

[loveandgratitude]

Truth Quest
with Melodee Hallett
Her guest is Alfred Webre............ www.exopolitics.com

http://mp3.oraclebroadcasting.com/tr...-07-09_16k.mp3

TALKS ABOUT COMET ELENIN BEING A FALSE FLAG EVENT PLUS MANY OTHER INTERESTING TOPICS

[onawah]

Elenin being a false flag event makes a lot of sense to me, and the idea that TPTB have created it to target Conspiracy Theorists especially. Their tactics are so obvious and reek of desperation, but there sure are a lot of people falling for it. So much hysteria over something which, IMHO, will prove to have been just another tempest in a teapot. Sad.

[Calz]

Who knows???

If that is the case then "they" would need to be doing the haarp/scalar/whatever thing on the last 4 alignments to cause the major quakes.

[loveandgratitude]

Comet Elenin is real. It does exist. But it seems that TPTB are going to use it, just as in the Japan Quake to their advantage and blame Comet Elenin for eathquakes etc. This means using HAARP and scalar weapons. We can use timelines to prevent this.

[Calz]

Posted by loveandgratitude (here)
Comet Elenin is real. It does exist. But it seems that TPTB are going to use it, just as in the Japan Quake to their advantage and blame Comet Elenin for eathquakes etc. This means using HAARP and scalar weapons. We can use timelines to prevent this.

Okay ... I'll bite

For the benefit of those here who *DO* understand timelines ... what are you suggesting???

[loveandgratitude]

Russian astronomer LEONID ELENIN comes out to debunk the "Extinction Level Event" psy-op.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=MD-V6KmiB78

That's a historic moment. The discoverer of the comet named after his own name, LEONID ELENIN, shows up in an interview for Russian HTB NTV to give his version of the scientific facts about the cosmic object and debunk the conspiracy theories that claim that he doesn't exists, that the comet is actually a brown dwarf, that an alien armada is coming behind it and that the name ELENIN is a code for "Extinction Level Event Nibiru In November". Is Leonid Elenin authentic and truthful or is he covering up sensitive details kept in secret by TPTB???

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Posted by Calz_Avaretard (here)

Posted by loveandgratitude (here)
Comet Elenin is real. It does exist. But it seems that TPTB are going to use it, just as in the Japan Quake to their advantage and blame Comet Elenin for eathquakes etc. This means using HAARP and scalar weapons. We can use timelines to prevent this.

Okay ... I'll bite

For the benefit of those here who *DO* understand timelines ... what are you suggesting???

LISTEN TO THE INTERVIEW WITH ALFRED WEBRE
http://mp3.oraclebroadcasting.com/tr...-07-09_16k.mp3

[stardustaquarion]

There is panic folks and it is unjustified. Hoagland himself says Elenin is tiny. As for the rest of his claims, ejemmm...I think it is just speculation. Dates are interesting but let us not forget that the gregorian calendar was created by the illuminati and that they have in their hands the real history of humanity. It is entirely possible that this is not the first time for Elenin

As for blood in Kerry's hands...well, I believe in self responsibility so if anyone decides to believe in all the nonsense said in the video conference, it is a choice

It is good old sensationalism, the kind of News of the World style...a lot of noise and no bananas

Why is Kerry doing this, who knows, brain control? it can happen to anyone...

[Hervé]

Posted by loveandgratitude (here)
Russian astronomer LEONID ELENIN comes out to debunk the "Extinction Level Event" psy-op.

These are excerpt translations of the interview:

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
All right, let's see what can be done here...

From the discoverer himself:

The panic on the Internet began with a genuine snapshot, published by one of the Argentine astronomers, and few people bothered to pay attention to the date - April 1st. In the center - a comet with a symbol C 2010 X1 Elenin, and on each side, wrote the scientist, - something that looks very much like two alien spacecraft. They are on their way! - the Internet exploded and started to await the end of the world.

[...]

Leonid Elenin, researcher in the Institute of Applied Mathematics says: "I receive letters that ask me to present a passport."

Interviewer: "Where the letters are coming from?"

Leonid Elenin: "Well, most of them come from the U.S.. Right now, during the last week, I was 'buried' by letters from Russia. From U.S. also came: 'We don't believe you. Show your passport.' To which I replied: Why do I have to show you anything?"

[...]

Leonid Elenin: "These are actually stars. What happens is, that during a certain process of adding several frames in relation to the velocity of the comet, these stars stretch into tracks. In principle, any astronomer should know this."

[...]

Interviewer: "It is similar to a bright spot being smeared on the picture taken at night."

Leonid Elenin: "Yes, of course. And the discovery of a comet was my dream, a childhood dream. And it was accomplished. Of course, I was happy and so on. But now, all this is happening around my comet. There are, for example, the following letters: 'Leonid, tell us the truth. I am selling my house. And my family and I are heading for the mountains.' It's nothing but hysteria. More so, the comet is absolutely safe for the Earth. It will pass at a distance of 34 million kilometers from the planet."
[...]

Full article, click: here

[Rocky_Shorz]

hope not, he wouldn't miss...

[The One]

Source http://beforeitsnews.com/story/845/1...ct_Elenin.html

PPE- Psyops Project Elenin

The Psyops Project Elenin: Has been linked to a psychological warfare operation – intended to engage public fear using The Near Earth Orbit Comets Elenin, Levy and Honda (which will pass near Earth in the Fall of 2011) the project is part of a up and coming test and environmental attack on specific human settlements and populations using the HAARP Weather Warfare System.

You know that's the one that uses radio waves to heat the ionosphere and change weather patterns, the system is so backed that they made everyone change the frequencies of the television stations so they have no potential interference in their applications.



OH YEAH IT GETS BETTER

Is The White House Letter A Smoking Gun that Elenin is a threat or is it a Psyops Promoter?

On Oct 15, 2010, the White House issued a letter highlighting the hazards of near earth objects including comets. One fair interpretation of the White House letter is that it’s timing may be part of the Comet Elenin Psyops.

This 10-page letter has been out on the web since October 2010, which proves that US NASA and the White House know about ELENIN and consider it “a real threat”

"The terminology used in this letter, will lead one to believe that our 'shadow' government and elements within NASA have long known that anticipated effects of the arrival of Comet Elenin would indeed be much greater than they are telling the public.

Gentlemen start your engines…

The time is now…With Elenin, Levy, Honda and “Bart Simpson Gordon” coming to a planet near you, these signs and wonders in the skies, will be fuel for the drum beating propaganda screaming pickpockets to point their fingers up to the sky, and have everyone look up while they smilingly fleece your wallet.

This “Wag the Dog” effect has been working so well for so long, it is a mainstay in the bag of tricks, the political magicians constantly use…

Re-election time…= weapons of mass destruction, or oh we are at war you shouldn’t change the pretzel-dent during war, ETC.

Now through shadow government Psyops Blogger’s under the guise of freedom of speech, or informing the public, and you have the perfect storm, with these blogger’s misinformation being used to bug out people and get then to trust the local bully for protection.

Seriously if a comet is going to hit the earth, then there is noting anyone can do but get right with GOD.

BUT no such thing is going to happen, DON’T PANIC, be wise in knowledge and faith.
With the threat of increasing our taxes trillions of dollars, the EU dropping like a dead bird, wars and rumors of wars throughout the middle east, now is NOT the time to be looking to the skies, now is the time to be putting the corrupt government officials in jail.

If YOU cheat on your taxes what will happen? YET… the government is talking about no tax returns, cutting the governments social security bank account, YES the governments, all that money we have all put in, since 1935, every working American every week for 76 years. GONE…and what about those that died before they got to collect, where is their money?

They are just going to take it all; they are not satisfied with the double dipping for 76 years the greedy want it all.

Now is NOT the time to be looking up, unless its in prayer, this is the time for the capital hill crooks to be put in jail…

Watch what’s next…when you voice your constitutional free voice you will be considered an extremist or enemy or the state and stuck or “detained” in the brand new FEMA interment camps that are going up all over the country.

Here is the 10 page White House Letter’s link, read it for yourself…

And the next time you read some pseudo-science wannabe’s comments, or some other joker’s misdirection.

Question what their agenda really is?

Is it to gain knowledge?

Or to cause mass confusion, and even the deaths of the weaker minded?

This is more like an attempt to derail the train of thought, and stop the movement forward?

Speaking of which here is the White House Near Earth Object Letter LINK http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/defa...neos-house.pdf

[steveofengland]

I think if the powers that be were going to use elenin for this purpose it would have made big mainstream news long ago. It does make one wonder what is disinformation and what is not? it does confuse things somewhat.

[TargeT]

the patterns are there and this does not fit.

if ELENIN was a psyops it would be splashed ALL over the news like the murdoc distraction..

No, there is far too much evidence that elenin is a visitor that has been near our planet before (the statue of liberty is a representation of Virgo (the virgin) holding the Destroyer (ELEnin) in her out stretched hand, which is exactly where elenin will line up this fall (with the constellation virgo's hand...)

Virgo (justice, ISIS, what ever aspect of that "god" you want to name) is represented all over the place with the flaming torch, or light in her outstretched hand.. this systemic symbolism cannot be ignored!