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    Well where did the Mayans get their info from? They are able to predict every lunar eclipse up to date within 30 seconds, from when they made the calendars all those years ago. So how did they know where to start the calendar?
    The best I gather is they got it from Sumer about the time when their civilization was splitting apart. Thoth, designer of the pyramids and the calendar, is often credited with this.

    One thing's for sure. Like the Egyptians, they didn't just up and figure this s**t out one day. LOL

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    If you get a spinning top to precess, it's either because it is slowing down or you gave it a jerk to get it going or to keep it going. Assumsing the analogy holds, whoever or whatever is spinning our top, it would not be a steady state and we may just keel over at a moment's notice.
    Just a thought

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    So... Lunisolar or binary... here is what the guys at Binary Research Institute have to say:

    Quote Layman's explanation: The precession of the equinox is the age-old phenomenon whereby an observer on Earth will notice that after one year (solar, tropical, equinoctial), he will not realign with the exact same point relative to the distant stars. From two to four thousand years ago observers on Earth noticed that the sun on the vernal equinox aligned with the constellation Aries, and in the last few thousand years with Pisces. Now as many know, we are at the "dawning of the age of Aquarius", meaning the sun on the vernal equinox is close to aligning with the constellation of Aquarius. This apparent backward motion of the stars (at the time of the equinox) is the precession of the equinox – whereby the equinoctial point slowly recedes through the 12 constellations of the Zodiac at the present rate of about 1 degree per 71.6 years. If this rate were constant it would take about 25,700 to 25,800 years to complete one full precession of the equinox. However, the annual rate is now speeding up, meaning the calculated length of one full cycle is getting shorter. If the observable of precession is due to an elliptical orbit of our sun around another star, as we believe, then this explains the reason for the variable rate of precession, and also tells us the full cycle will average something different than 25,700 years. All our calculations lead us to believe the period will average about 24,000 years as will be explained in a later section of this website.

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    The precession of the equinox is observed as the stars moving across the sky at the rate of about 50 arc seconds per year, relative to the equinox. Conventional theory holds that this phenomenon is due to the gravity of the sun and moon acting upon the oblate spheroid of the earth causing the axis to wobble (the lunisolar theory). The alternative explanation advanced by the Binary Research Institute is that most of the observable is due to solar system motion, causing a reorientation of the earth relative to the fixed stars as the solar system gradually curves through space (the binary theory or model). We find the binary model better explains acceleration of the precession rate, better predicts changes in the rate, answers a number of solar system problems and has none of the paradoxes or inconsistencies associated with lunisolar precession theory.

    The Research section includes a summary of our basic work investigating the mechanics of precession, describes some of the problems with current theory and gives data to show that solar system motion is a better explanation for the observable known as the precession of the equinox. If you move your mouse over the word “Research” you will find this work broken into five further sections entitled: Introduction, Evidence, Calculations, Finding It and Papers and Articles. We invite you to browse.

    For a tutorial on our alternate view of precession please begin with the “Introduction” and keep clicking the “Next” button and it will carry you through each section of the presentation.

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    Check this page for an animation on how this works (click on "Forward" to step through):

    http://www.binaryresearchinstitute.o...urvature.shtml

    Look at this other animation to get a visual of how each partner of the binary system speed up or slow down in their orbit around the system's center of gravity:

    http://www.binaryresearchinstitute.o...n/theory.shtml

    ... and here to get the idea of how that translates for the observation of distant stars/constellations:

    http://www.binaryresearchinstitute.o...mplicity.shtml

    As it is known that the Oort cloud has its outside edge nicely "polished" (i.e. the "Sheer Edge"), here is their animation on how that could occur with a binary system:

    http://www.binaryresearchinstitute.o...heeredge.shtml

    In short, our solar system (binary stars plus their respective planets) are dancing around the galactic center describing "travelling ovals."

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    Quote Posted by IndigoStar (here)
    Well where did the Mayans get their info from? They are able to predict every lunar eclipse up to date within 30 seconds, from when they made the calendars all those years ago. So how did they know where to start the calendar?
    The best I gather is they got it from Sumer about the time when their civilization was splitting apart. Thoth, designer of the pyramids and the calendar, is often credited with this.

    One thing's for sure. Like the Egyptians, they didn't just up and figure this s**t out one day. LOL

    Cheers,
    Fred
    Hi Fred S.!

    Here is an interesting view which largely differs from the commonly held beliefs about Sumer and the Sumerians, from Johnathan Gray:

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    SUMERIAN ASTRONOMY
    A key element of Sumero-Mesopotamian religion was a concern with heavenly bodies that could be observed with the naked eye - especially the sun, moon, and Venus, due to their ease of visibility.

    We observed earlier that the Sumerian culture was a paradox. On the one hand, the Sumerians, had an advanced knowledge of astronomy, geography, medicine and virtually all the sciences.

    On the other hand, they were an entirely practical people, with no urge to search for truth for its own sake. They sought for no underlying principles, and undertook no experiments for verification. (Samuel M. Kramer, From the Tablets of Sumer. Indian Hills: Falcon’s Wing Press, 1956, pp. xviii, 6, 32, 58, 59)

    For this reason, their astronomy dealt only with the visible – that which might have a practical effect on their everyday life.

    ASTRONOMY WAS RELIGIOUS
    And they linked astronomy to their religion.

    That is why Sumero-Mesopotamian religion had a key concern with heavenly bodies that could be observed with the naked eye - especially the Sun, Moon, and Venus, due to their ease of visibility.
    (Please note, this has a direct bearing on what we discovered in the previous chapter concerning Nibiru. The Sumerian documents say that Nibiru is visible EVERY YEAR.)

    It is important to realize that each visible heavenly body was artistically symbolized - and stood for a deity.
    Whereas it seems that the Mayans got into the predictabilty of events and cycles...

    For comparison, when one thinks of the speed at which this current civilization went from horse buggies to getting on with an inventory of the solar system... where the hell did we get it from?

    People like Kepler, Galilleo, Newton, Maxwell, Bohrs,Tesla, Einstein... Did they get it from Sumer? The Aztecs? Ancient Egypt? Or did they start by having a look around to see what was there?

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    Quote It appears that a civilization "explosion" occurred on Earth during a period which corresponds to its Upper Garbagian stratigraphic layer.
    According to a calendar of unknown origin miraculously preserved and recently deciphered by a team of intergalactic researchers, this civilization seems to have spread to the entire planet around the year 2000 of said calendar...

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    Quote Posted by IndigoStar (here)
    So the precession of the equinoxes is approaching and it only occurs every 26,000 years and has a drastic effect on the earth and its inhabitants....

    so my question is what was the big change at the last precession of the equinoxes?

    Looking forward to hearing your answers and thanks in advance : )
    Hello IndigoStar!

    To strictly answer your question, just look what were the news around 21st June, 2011.

    That's when the last precession occurred, the next will be around 21st September, 2011... and so on; twice every year.

    In view of what I posted above, the whole cycle of these precessions gets back to some arbitrary "square one" every 24,000 years on average. That's when our Sun has completed a full revolution around the center of gravity of our binary solar system.

    Accordingly, I am not sure that the resetting to a "square one" has anything to do with the price of fish... it is just a long cycle timer with which cyclical events can be checked against.

    The problem is: do we have bona fide cyclical events or just galactic flukes?
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