Top Model says sun lotion is poison

[learninglight]

Sun cream is another one of those 'modern myths' they have brought in to poison you from the outside in.

Much love

[conk]

With adequate and proper nutrition, sun damage will be minimized. Especially important are fatty acids. Omega 3 fatty acids will protect your skin.

[Lucc30]

That's factual. Been working in the business for 17 years and sunscreen chemicals all have the attributes of poisons.

But, you can obtain products only containing physical sunscreens (minerals) and you should use it during midday and/or long time exposure as UV-rays also are dangerous.

Nice point to expose before rays get to harmful (to produce vitamin D).

[witchy1]

But, you can obtain products only containing physical sunscreens (minerals)

Thanks Lucc30. Can you let us know where we might find these sunscreens or the names of some please. I am sure many will still want to use a sunscreen. I have to ask, are you sure these products contain NO nanoparticles?

Thanks in anticipation

W

[Lucc30]

You may read the ingredient list and physical sunscreens will almost always consist of the mineral titanium (oxides and/or salts) and zink (also oxides). I have not used sunscreens in years to avoid the chemicals, but the brand "Clarins" was the last brand product containing physical sunscreens I used.
These minerals are micronized (and should very dufficult have nanosized particles).

Mind though the resulting product is sticky and may leave a white residue film on skin. I dont mind, but because of this feature it is not so popular with the ordinary consumer and may be difficult to find a pure phys. sunscreen product.

Good luck Witchy1 - let me know if u find a product/label with only phys. screens in Australia that we may not have in Europe. If in need I'll help you with analyzing the ingredients list.
Lucc30

PS! Checked it - yep, the forementioned label still have a High Protection (ca. SPF 30), 100% mineral filter product for children. Not to expensive for 125 ml.

[witchy1]

Thanks Lucc.

Interestingly no sun protection can acheive over 30 spf (I think I remember rightly) - the rest is sales pitch

[DeMeeee]

Another clever way for them to make money... dumb down... mind manip's... as usual!
Unfortunately the masses follow Really, their plan works I hate to say!
So many wholeheartedly trust and never consider to research for their own.
They are hot to argue, or ignore. sad :/

[Neal]

Gisele is certainly onto something, but unfortunately, most people missed the message or most likely thought she was a dumb supermodel.

Despite getting sunburns in my life more times than I can count on both hands and feet, I have stopped using sunscreen and instead take 10,000 IU of Vitamin D3. One great website for information on the importance of Vitamin D3 in reducing disease risk is GrassrootsHealth. There are many documents and video presentations regarding this topic.

One excellent presentation on their website focusing on the link between sunscreen and skin cancer incidence is Skin Cancer/Sunscreen -- the Dilemma. I suggest checking it out since it talks about the necessary wavelengths needed for Vitamin D3 synthesis in the skin and shows that the sunscreen ingredients block those specific wavelengths.

The Sun has been demonized for far too long in society. People should go outside and get some fresh air and sun, but if they can't, they should at least supplement with Vitamin D3!

[karelia]

The cosmetics industry has been having a sordid affair with the rest of the depopulation squad for a very long time. I first learned in 1986 that r.o.c., for example, use aborted fetal tissue in some of their products (a bank analyst told me). From then on, I read everything I could get my hands on about cosmetics and then started to look at ethnic minorities and how they had better skin than a lot of Europeans/Whites etc. My conclusion? Diet and the avoidance of chemicals. And exercise by walking.

To moisturise my skin, I use virgin coconut oil. It also helps, to a certain extent, to avoid sunburn. I have very pale skin, but despite walking a lot, I never get more than a slight wind burn. If my skin does burn, I rub it with cider vinegar; it takes off the edge of the burn. Coconut oil, even the most expensive organic type, is a lot cheaper than any big-brand moisturiser, plus there is the benefit that you don't support a corporation (there are a lot of independent, ethically sourced producers around who provide virgin coconut oil). The oil also has a lot of other health benefits that only add to the appeal.

There are many alternative solutions to chemicals at home and/or on the skin. I clean with baking soda and vinegar. It's efficient, and it's economical. I mix baking soda with citric acid and a few drops of essential oils to add to my bath. Soap nut powder, found in any Indian grocery store, works well with any non-white laundry and is very friendly to the environment (the nuts grow on trees, mostly in Asia, though I believe there are some who started growing them all over the world), and baking soda keeps whites white. A few drops of essential oil of lemon add a much richer and more natural freshness to the clothes than any chemical ever can. And at the end of the day, I have money left over and stick my tongue out to the corporations.

[DeDukshyn]

Well I'm not sure I can advocate sunblock as poison but I can say that the there seems to be some truth to the vitamin D conspiracy. Vitamin D is both a hormone and a vitamin so thus is extremely powerful and important - your body needs to get it from external sources. Latest research indicates that 1000 iu should be the minimum and up to 5000iu for people who don't get much sun. I say just try to get some sun; your skin is very efficient at making vitamin D and your body can store it for periods. It is needed for a vbroad range of operations in the body including calcium absorption. Considering the rates of osteoporosis in modern times, check another for the vitamin D conspiracy theorists. I say get your sun!

[Lucc30]

And please do not forget about aluminum as well: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...er-Please-Read

[HORIZONS]

Posted by conk (here)
With adequate and proper nutrition, sun damage will be minimized. Especially important are fatty acids. Omega 3 fatty acids will protect your skin.

100% correct!!! Detox and clean out your body and skin - which is actually an organ - and the sun will not hurt you. Yes, you may burn if you are over exposed, but you will heal up fine without any damage to your skin. Would any sane person lather up all that crap on their heart or liver or any other body organ? Then don't put it on your skin either - and then go out in the sun to bake it on and in your skin (external body organ). I am light skinned and if I get red it goes away by the next day, and I never blister or peal. Detox the outside of you, and the inside of you, and you will love being out in the energy of this beautiful star we have called our Sun. Sunbathing in the nude feels awesome - especially after a long winter. And morning sun is best in MHO.

[Maia Gabrial]

I always used olive oil when I went out into the sun. I got the best and darkest tan while my skin felt smooth and soft. I love being in the Sun too much....!

[angel in disguise]

I was down in Mexico this year speaking with some Mayan elders... They told me that eating or drinking a lot of watermelon juice is equivalent to wearing 80 proof sunscreen. No idea of the validity but just throwing it out there

Personally, I do quite well with coconut oil, but certainly drink a ton of watermelon juice when in tropical sun. Works for me... My Costa Rican friends burn faster than I do wearing sunscreen than my own concoction and I am a pasty white Canadian in the winter

[Franny]

I have read recently that Astaxanthin s a very high quality and powerful anti-oxident that has uses beyond just that. It helps color the skin (like it does with shrimp, salmon and flamingos etc) to help further protect it from sun -- just as a sidenote.

Over a year ago I injured the forefinger of my right hand. Nothing has helped it heal. Itʻs still swollen and stiff, and I canʻt use it much. I opened a cap of the Astaxanthin and spread some on the finger. It was on for an hour or so then washed off; itʻs a deep orange. Within 6 hours the swelling was visibly less and it had much more flexibility. Iʻm impressed! Going to keep doing it to see if it helps reduce the swelling enough to heal the finger so I can use it again. Bought it from Swanson for those of you in the States.

There are several places to check on the efficacy and safety of sunscreens; I use Environmental Working Group, EWG. They examine everything from cellphones to sunscreen. Take a look and see if they can be of assistance to you.

[Spirithorse]

Here my experience:

Inspired by an Project Camelot interview I watched some time last year

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=HH1rB-Ya2UQ

I started taking vitamin D3 5000 iU last winter, just to get more immunity to colds and so on - and it worked.

I also knew about the risks of sun protection creams and was just about to look for some natural stuff from the health food store when the first heat wave hit England in spring. April it was, I guess. I work outside every now and then and when I did, I accidentally discovered that I don't need sun protection any longer. Vitamin D3 did the job.

I haven't put any sun protection on my skin ever since, and at times, I was exposed to the sun for hours - without any signs of sunburn or heat.
Not that I recommend that to everyone but I can clearly say it works for me.

[Marsila]

what she says is true and not true.

Many years ago, there weren't as much holes in the ozone as now, so going out in the sun wouldn't have hurt, hence why they did not need it.

but the bigger companies who manufacture sunscreen are suspicious. anything higher than 45 SPF is bad for you yet you find all these products that are spf 80 and God knows what. But there are natural alternatives. also if you are just going to be out in the sun for a few minutes you don't need it.

READ THE REST OF THE ARTICLE THOUGH, she says she never goes into the sun after 8 am. and for good reason probably.

quote from Gisele's blog http://blog.giselebundchen.com.br/en...rotetor-solar/ she also has a link to "natural sunscreen" products, but no idea if it's just a marketing thing.

Hi all

I would like to clarify the misunderstanding about the use of sunblock. I do use sunblock but also I try my best not to be exposed to the sun when it is too strong. My line of skincare products are all natural and do not contain SPF. I feel we all need to pay more attention to what we are putting on our skin. I definitely know the importance of using sunscreen and I try to look for more natural options. This is a place where they have a list of some more natural option sunscreens, check it out here.

[Hervé]

One of he culprit: PABA

Enters that infamous name again:

In 1937, a chemist in immunology studies, Walther Goebel, at Rockefeller University reports on the urine analysis of dogs fed benzoic acid;

“When benzoic acid is ingested by dogs, it is excreted in the urine
partly in the form of hippuric acid and partly as a benzoyl ester
of glucuronic acid. The detoxication of aromatic [=benzene related] organic acids
by conjugation with glucuronic acid is one of the important physiological mechanisms of man and certain animals.” http://www.jbc.org/cgi/reprint/122/3/649.pdf

Clearly, this Rockefeller scientist believes that benzoic acid is toxic and has to be detoxified by the animal.

In 1943, another scientist at Rockefeller University writes a report on p-amino benzoic acid (PABA), citing that in very low doses it prevents sulfa antibiotics from working. At the time, sulfa drugs were the only antibiotics other than penicillin which was not yet in use. The scientist states that it has been shown to prevent sulfa drugs from inhibiting the growth of a strain of Clostridia. Yes, this is the same PABA chemical that was put in sunscreens.
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Clearly, the utility of doing that study during the war was to figure out how to prevent the treatment of gas gangrene due to war wounds.

“one molecule of p-aminobenzoic acid antagonized 23,000 molecules of sulfanilamide” www.jem.org/cgi/reprint/78/4/255.pdf

This next article is discussing PABA as a vitamin needed for the growth of many bacteria. The bacteria need it to make folate which they require for their growth.

Humans also need folate, but they do not need PABA, and have extremely miniscule quantities of it in their bloodstream normally. The scientists in this article are proposing that a particular mutant of the Typhoid Fever producing pathogenic bacteria Salmonella typhi might make a good vaccine against Typhoid. This mutation appears to be man made in a laboratory. It is a mutation of an enzyme that helps the germ make the PABA it needs to grow, called an aro mutant. The article states that virulence of the mutant gene was restored when mice were given water laced with PABA.
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Applying the sun screen before playing in contaminated water had the potential to change a pleasant afternoon into Typhoid Fever. And for a poor person in a Third World country treatment for that Typhoid Fever could cost 6 months worth of their labor and be a death sentence.

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I found many pathogenic bacteria in the literature which had been turned into Aro mutants to make into live vaccines. That is, the new mutant pathogenic bacteria were assumed to be safe because they were so dependent on PABA/p-hydroxy benzoate for their growth. The research on that which I saw came from Rockefeller scientist, Rockefeller grants, or later the US Army’s Chemical and Biological Warfare Lab. The latter was controlled by the Rockefeller Family and Skull and Bones, especially the Bushes.
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“Benzoic acid is also used in cosmetics (in creams and lotions with pH values under 4, up to 0.5%. Sixteen out of 71 deodorants tested contained benzoic acid.http://www.inchem.org/documents/cicads/cicads/cicad26.htm#SubSectionNumber:4.2.1
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In layman’s terms, mutant germs have been created on purpose as live vaccines. Those live germs disseminate through populations. They can still cause Typhoid Fever, diarrhea, dysentery [severe diarrhea that may include blood in the stool], pneumonia, swimmer’s ear, urinary infections, Whooping Cough, Gonorrhea, and Anthrax IF the person has p-hydroxy benzoate or PABA in their body or is immuno-compromised.
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This next piece of text shows that PAB pathway, as opposed to Aro pathway mutants have been made by scientists. They also require PABA to grow. In addition, it is pointed out that it is possible to take two mutants both which look attenuated and thus safe to use for a vaccine, yet when both bacteria are present together they are able to make PABA. That is important to know because two companies making vaccines even for different pathogens could pick different locations in the pathway to target. Then if both live germs met up someplace in the world there could be a sudden outbreak of one or both of the diseases. It might look innocent and each company might claim ignorance that such a thing could happen. But in fact, that possibility is inherent in this piece of text . And any scientist who thought about it for a couple of minutes would immediately see that danger in producing such live vaccines.

Let me try to explain this problem more clearly. Suppose you have two factories that make the same guns. And suppose that you shut down the first one by not allowing them to make triggers and the second one by not allowing them to make barrels for the guns. If they work together they can share triggers and barrels they can still make guns just fine.
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The human body has plenty of amino acids in it but almost no PABA unless it is smeared on the skin. Can benzoate turn into the bacterial growth factor PABA or p-hydroxy benzoate that so that the bacteria can grow? Is that process facilitated by heating the cans?

What happens to pregnant women if they are given one of these live “attenuate” vaccines and folate prenatal vitamins together? Folate is one of the main ingredients of prenatal vitamins because it reduces neural tube birth defects like spina bifida.

Let me make this perfectly clear--PABA acted like a growth stimulant to bacteria and was classified as a vitamin--not a human vitamin though, a bacterial vitamin. People do not need it.

It was rushed into use in sun screens before proving that it prevented skin cancer. In fact, later it was incriminated as causing DNA damage likely to increase the risk of skin cancer. Was it pushed through the FDA and onto the consumer’s skin for more than just a profit motive?
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Note that strains of virulent bacterial pathogens were being planned to be released upon the public on the premise that they were not harmful because they were weak mutants. They were mutants that required PABA to be virulent and cause severe disease.
It had long been known by physicians that workers who applied tar to roofs had a much higher incidence of skin cancer than their sun exposure accounted for. So, it was reckless, criminally reckless in my opinion, to put the tar-oil derivative PABA on the skin without first making sure that it did not cause cancer. Since later studies did find the PABA increased DNA damage and the likelihood of cancer, the question is why PABA was marketed as a sun screen? Since PABA is a bacterial vitamin but not a human one, it raised the unpleasant question as to whether it was marketed to increase bacterial infection. The water that people play in is often not far away from sewage outlets into it. In California, the beach water is tested in some locations to announce whether it is safe to swim in. I doubt that those testing it take into account the amount of PABA people had put on their skin.

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When I thought about the US troop’s sodas sitting in the sun, I wondered what the petrochemicals turned into in the heat. I figured that the writer of that CIA internal memo might know. The writer, on investigation, turned out to be a microbiologist at the US Army’s Chemical and Biological Warfare Labs at Fort Detrick Maryland. I called him up and told him that I would like to meet with him over a cup of coffee. He agreed and we set a time and place.
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In response to my questions he admitted that the water being used in Iraq was to his knowledge not the problem. He said that he wrote the memo because benzoic acid was being added to the sodas and was the “petrochemical derivative” that was of concern. He said that it was a very useful chemical to fed populations in war zones because its heat caused metabolites which increased their risk of dying from wounds and dysentery. I asked him, if that is the case, then why was it being used in sodas given the troops. He looked at me that I was dense or naive. He said, “It is there to decrease VA hospital bills.” I said, “But that is absurd.” He said, “No, think about it. If a soldier is healthy, not much happens when he drinks the sodas. But if he gets seriously wounded then he is likely to get a wound infection. Then he will die from it and not be a long term burden on the VA with an amputated leg, say.”
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... You can go into an area where people are dying from dysentery and give them sodas and look like a hero. You know what the standard treatment for dysentery is now? Sodas. People consider them “safe” to drink beverages because they are sterile. Orange based sodas have the potassium in them that is needed to help replace the electrolytes. All you change is whether you heat them first as to whether you supply them to harm or help. It was truly a brilliant idea. We are really changing how we do things at the Lab. The people in the hot climates are overpopulating the world--now we can combat that effortlessly. People with AIDS in Africa, India, etc. just need a little help over the edge. We are giving them that help.”
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What that “Final Solution” researcher had told me was that in the heat the Benzoate/Benzoic Acid turned into not just benzene but PABA (para-amino benzoic acid). There is some amino acids in the beverages, at least in ones with plant extracts in them. He said furthermore, some of it turns into PABA inside the human body where there are lots of amino acids and moderate heat as well. He said that the bacteria just need trace amounts of it to grow like a rocket. I said, I did not see how bacteria could grow on a crude oil slick. He said, “They can’t. But many of them grow better than ever before, when small amounts of oil is added to a lake. He said, look at all those contaminated lakes up near Detroit; people just changed their car oil and let the oil seep into the ground, or just a few drops of oil from their outboard motors got into the water. Bingo, the water is full of nasty bacteria.” He continued, “That is why the water is not drinkable in the US anymore, because it takes so little pollution by oil to make the bacteria take it over. I played skeptical and asked him to send me a paper on it. He did. I read it in some detail.

The paper was about a small town in Africa during an epidemic of cholera. Some inhabitants were given the pre-heated sodas and some were not. The town’s people were not told that they were being studied for how well they could be killed off! Both putting the benzoate in the sodas and the study were unethical in my opinion. The town folk believed that the researcher and his staff were there to help them. The mortality was 40% higher in the group given the heat treated sodas. This was not a town with a particularly high AIDS rate. Less than 10% of the people were HIV positive. The study had tested people for HIV. Those who had AIDS and cholera had a high incidence of death, about 80%, if they drank the heat treated sodas. Their mortality if they came down with cholera was high anyway, about 50%. Those with just cholera and regular sodas had less than a 2% death rate.

From Sue Arrigo's case 22B.

Innocuous sunscreens and cosmetics to interact with laced vaccines and water from the "poisonned wells"... and there is the loaded gun held at the head of the female of the species of "useless eaters."

[conk]

Posted by latte (here)
I have read recently that Astaxanthin s a very high quality and powerful anti-oxident that has uses beyond just that. It helps color the skin (like it does with shrimp, salmon and flamingos etc) to help further protect it from sun -- just as a sidenote.

Over a year ago I injured the forefinger of my right hand. Nothing has helped it heal. Itʻs still swollen and stiff, and I canʻt use it much. I opened a cap of the Astaxanthin and spread some on the finger. It was on for an hour or so then washed off; itʻs a deep orange. Within 6 hours the swelling was visibly less and it had much more flexibility. Iʻm impressed! Going to keep doing it to see if it helps reduce the swelling enough to heal the finger so I can use it again. Bought it from Swanson for those of you in the States.

There are several places to check on the efficacy and safety of sunscreens; I use Environmental Working Group, EWG. They examine everything from cellphones to sunscreen. Take a look and see if they can be of assistance to you.

Astaxanthin is what we give our young, pale-skinned daughter when she goes to swim. That and large does of vitamin C and E, with two or three fatty acid capsules.

[Maia Gabrial]

Thanks Spirithorse. I saw this several months ago, and it was excellent then as it is now...