Planet X/Nibiru/Tyche/Hercolobus/Elenin

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Posted by greybeard (here)
I feel we are starting to get some clarity -- not saying we have the right picture yet but I think it is undeniable something unusual is going on.
There is too much circumstance evidence---- the only thing that is missing is the BODY
Sorry could not resist.

We will know soon enough.

Regards Chris

greybeard, i think we finally got full clarity! ignore the conclusions drawn in the endgametime file. the electromagnetism thing is correct but it's the magnetism of nibiru/planet x and not elenin. elenin is just the precursor.

check out the following file, it explains everything in detail incl. scientific proof (and lots of calculations, my head's still spinning) and it gives a timeline. the conclusion is that october 2012 is the most probable date for the pole shift (give or take two months depending on the acceleration of planet x as it comes closer to the sun) and that there will be much more severe earth changes beginning in september this year with another peak around march 11, 2012. it's all there, this does it for me, now i'm 100% convinced.

http://www.scribd.com/fullscreen/60725711

[greybeard]

Thanks for all the work you are putting in The Truth is Out There.
David Sereda has said that electromagnetism is what we should be looking at. (my words)
He stated that there is a massive band of it heading our way from the Galactic Center due to arrive about Dec 2012.
He is also very positive about an upgrade/change of DNA

Chris

PS you link does not work for me but that might be because I use Ubuntu Linux

[Operator]

Posted by greybeard (here)
He is also very positive about an upgrade/change of DNA

If it doesn't kill you it will make you stronger ....

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Posted by greybeard (here)
Thanks for all the work you are putting in The Truth is Out There.
David Sereda has said that electromagnetism is what we should be looking at. (my words)
He stated that there is a massive band of it heading our way from the Galactic Center due to arrive about Dec 2012.
He is also very positive about an upgrade/change of DNA

Chris

PS you link does not work for me but that might be because I use Ubuntu Linux

too bad, maybe you can view the file on another pc or install a different browser to get it? imo it's really the best information that is currently available anywhere in the web. what is described also has nothing at all to do with the galactic center, the topic is planet x and elenin and it leaves no questions unanswered, at least for me at this point.

[ponda]

Hey nice find Truth.Lots of detailed info on that link.

Thanks for posting it.

cheers

[steveofengland]

Posted by The Truth Is In There (here)

Posted by greybeard (here)
Thanks for all the work you are putting in The Truth is Out There.
David Sereda has said that electromagnetism is what we should be looking at. (my words)
He stated that there is a massive band of it heading our way from the Galactic Center due to arrive about Dec 2012.
He is also very positive about an upgrade/change of DNA

Chris

PS you link does not work for me but that might be because I use Ubuntu Linux

too bad, maybe you can view the file on another pc or install a different browser to get it? imo it's really the best information that is currently available anywhere in the web. what is described also has nothing at all to do with the galactic center, the topic is planet x and elenin and it leaves no questions unanswered, at least for me at this point.

Link not working for me too?

[Operator]

Posted by steveofengland (here)
Link not working for me too?

If you have a facebook account you can login and download the pdf ... or you may consider to subscribe (not sure but probably free).

[yiolas]

It's free and easy to subscribe to Scribb. I just did and downloaded the pdf. Try it.

[Steve C]

Hi all,

This video is the reason why i dont believe in nibiru/planet x/brown dwarf.

Mike Bara says there is a 1% chance of its existence,that would mean none existence imo. Enjoy.

http://www.cmn.tv/videos/mike-bara-t...ign=WordSocial

[Meesh]

greybeard, i think we finally got full clarity! ignore the conclusions drawn in the endgametime file. the electromagnetism thing is correct but it's the magnetism of nibiru/planet x and not elenin. elenin is just the precursor.

check out the following file, it explains everything in detail incl. scientific proof (and lots of calculations, my head's still spinning) and it gives a timeline. the conclusion is that october 2012 is the most probable date for the pole shift (give or take two months depending on the acceleration of planet x as it comes closer to the sun) and that there will be much more severe earth changes beginning in september this year with another peak around march 11, 2012. it's all there, this does it for me, now i'm 100% convinced.

http://www.scribd.com/fullscreen/60725711[/QUOTE]

Sorry, I did a lousy job including the original posting.

I've just read all this material-- very intriguing. I'm not familiar with the site and was wondering who authored this paper. Maybe I missed it, but I didn't see a name or any credentials. Are uploads done anonymously?

[jsb_swampfox]

I am starting to wonder if we are manifesting this timeline by putting so much effort into this subject. Maybe Inelia is right, We create our own timelines. I dont know anymore, I am trying not to let fear enter into my head, but it is a hard not to. There is a lot of evidence....

[ghostrider]

Posted by Carolin (here)
Thanks 'The Truth Is There' for sharing, I just finished listening to Mr Hoagland on Coast to Coast. Somebody please help me understand because I must be too dense.

Does Elenin has a 13,000 year cycle or no cycle at all?

Elenin is a time capsule.................really??????

JPL is accurate for September 11 but alignment dates and major earthquakes should be disregarded?

So many things he said were contradictory that he'll claim to be right regardless of the outcome. I could go on and on but I've already lost two hours of my life that I'll never get back by listening to Mr Hoagland baffle me with

NO intelligent ET would fly their planet sized craft right next to earth tip it over and devistate life on earth not to mention cause the sun to CME us into powder. surely they know you can't park the bus that close to the baby.

[Calz]

FWIW - From James Gilliland via giovonni on the Ranch thread:

Posted by giovonni (here)
Greetings,

From James newsletter...

#6586 Comment on Elenin, "Nibiru"

Elenin or Nibiru?

"Many have asked for me to comment on comet Elenin. I was given in meditation a
big event is coming. I was also given the time line Sept. 26th have to be fully
self sufficient away from the coasts seeking shelter in high ground away from
any active fault lines or volcanoes. I also find it odd that the so-called comet
"Elenin" is geo effective at that time passing between the Earth and the Sun.
The Swiss Franc depicts this event,
http://www.redicecreations.com/article.php?id=16211 The N.W.O. and powers that
be or were have prepared extensive underground facilities at our expense for
them and their families leaving all others topside to fend for themselves. This
has always been the plan with those we have entrusted to take care of us, they
always take care of themselves. Look at Social Security. The Vatican has spent
millions if not billions into tracking what they call wormwood. Many call this
incoming body planet X, Nibiru, and it is referred to as the winged globe or the
red dragon; which seems to pass by every 11,000 years give or take. In the early
80's this object was found, it hit the headline news and they said we don't have
to worry about it a while. That while is here. The Mayan Calendar talks about
the end of a major cycle in Oct. the 28th to be exact. This is the second
passing as it leaves our system. NASA otherwise known as never a straight answer
has not been forthcoming on UFOs, off world visitors they have had meetings with
and which have been working with along with other major corporations. Insiders
say not one of our missions to the moon or in space was not monitored by off
world craft. Or was it out own black projects? They have also not been
forthcoming about our own black projects with bases on the moon and mars as well
as the secret space fleet and would rather keep the charade going sending
astronauts up on giant firecrackers hoping they make it. Their job is to provide
window dressing and maintain the status quo so I would not depend upon them for
any truth concerning Elenin aka any other incoming objects. There is just to
much evidence to the contrary of their official story as in most official
stories. The bottom line is what is your gut telling you? What is the Earth
doing? Why all the unprecedented volcanoes and earthquakes? What is with the
weather? What is perturbing the planet? A major event is around the corner,
something big. The Earth is ascending to the next level, we are entering a
highly charged place in space, We are coming into alignment with Galactic plane
and there is more space debris as well as cosmic bursts of energy hitting the
than ever before. The standard, Nothing to see here folks, keep shopping is not
going to cut it much longer and it turns my stomach to see these old grandfather
bought scientists come on the air and lie with a smirk. Why the smirk? Because
they know and have their tickets to the underground facilities and want to be
sure and get there before all hell breaks loose. As I said they take care of
themselves first. Be well"
James Gilliland www.eceti.org

[Mandala]

This is the vfirst time I have viewed anything by 9nania. I thought some of you would find the video to reinforce some of the info we have heard.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=-OD1FZ7293E

[Rocky_Shorz]

is this where the cradle is coming from?

[ponda]

Here's a recent Red Ice Radio interview with Andy Lloyd with his perspective on Elenin and Nibiru etc


Andy Lloyd - Comet Elenin, Nibiru & Planet X

July 25, 2011

Andy Lloyd is an author, researcher, artist and chemist. He is probably best known for his book, The Dark Star, which establishes the facts about Planet X in a clear and understandable way. Andy's work on the subject of Nibiru has become essential reading for anyone who has studied the theories of Zecharia Sitchin. Comets have been a foretelling of doom in history and Earth has always been bombarded by space. So why is there so much anxiety floating around about Comet Elenin? Many are expecting a catastrophic event in 2012 and link this idea to Comet Elenin. What will Comet Elenin bring with it as it approaches nearest to us later this year? In this interview, Andy will talk about Comet Elenin and its possible effects on Earth. He'll also explain why he is skeptical about Elenin being a significant body. We'll also discuss Sitchin's theories about Nibiru and Richard Hoagland's theory about Comet Elenin as an intelligently guided vessel. Andy will tell us why he is looking at November 22, 2011 as an important date.




More links and also listen here:

http://www.redicecreations.com/radio...RIR-110725.php


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Here's Richard C Hoagland's perspective on Elenin from Red Ice Radio


Richard C. Hoagland - Comet Elenin as a Time Capsule, Norway Attack & The Messengers of Horus

July 25, 2011

Richard C. Hoagland is a former museum space science Curator, a former NASA Consultant and was science advisor to Walter Cronkite and CBS News. In the early 1970's, Hoagland proposed to Carl Sagan (along with Eric Burgess) the placement of a "message to Mankind" aboard Pioneer 10 -- humanity's "first" unmanned probe of Jupiter. Since then he has been pioneering the pursuit of uncovering the hidden data of our solar system. He is the author of several books, probably most famous for his theories on the face on Mars. His website enterprisemission.com, is updated regularly with analytical research into current anomalies on our planet and way beyond. In this interview, Richard shares his convincing theory about Comet Elenin, its symbolism, purpose and message which is a positive one. He rips apart the fear-porn propaganda about Comet Elenin as this is a key point in time and someone or something is intervening to steer consciousness into another direction. Could it be that Elenin is a time capsule sent by our ancestors containing important information crucial for this time? Then, Hoagland weaves together an intense eye-opener which connects Comet Elenin with September 11, the original masonic message, the bombing in Norway and the secret space program.






More links and also listen here:

http://www.redicecreations.com/radio...RIR-110726.php

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Posted by jsb_swampfox (here)
I am starting to wonder if we are manifesting this timeline by putting so much effort into this subject. Maybe Inelia is right, We create our own timelines. I dont know anymore, I am trying not to let fear enter into my head, but it is a hard not to. There is a lot of evidence....

no worries mate, we're not manifesting planet x by believing in it. besides, few enough people do so anyway. what's going to happen in the next 7 years, the great tribulation, beginning in september 2011 has been predicted in the book of revelation almost 2000 years ago, including the exact date! and incidentally 7 years is also the exact time frame during which earth is under the influence of the magnetic field of planet x (again, starting in september. so prophecy and science go hand in hand here).

as many people have noticed the planetary alignment that is described in rev. 12.1 takes place on sep 29th this year. it doesn't matter if you and others believe in this or not. on this great scale we can't influence anything. the timeline of planet x is fixed and there's nothing anybody here on earth can do about it, otherwise it couldn't have been predicted by countless prophets and indigenous people over the course of centuries/millennia.

i have a request to everyone who's posting in this thread. it would be great if you took the time to read the scribd file to which i posted a link yesterday before posting more theories. it offers so much proof and correlation analysis that it makes other theories pretty much superfluous. if you don't agree after reading it you can still post all those other theories but i guess that won't be necessary anymore.

everything is explained there. for instance, the reason why these earthquakes happen when elenin is aligned with the earth and the sun is because planet x follows elenin, just some AU behind it and what's causing the earthquakes are the alignments with planet x and not elenin. in fact, after reading the file i believe elenin might be the blue kachina since it is tied to planet x through the magnetic field of planet x and thus a direct precursor. and the recent increase in earthquakes and volcanic activity is also because the magentic field of planet x has almost reached us now, and not because of elenin. please read that file guys, it's all there!

[greybeard]

Posted by jsb_swampfox (here)
I am starting to wonder if we are manifesting this timeline by putting so much effort into this subject. Maybe Inelia is right, We create our own timelines. I dont know anymore, I am trying not to let fear enter into my head, but it is a hard not to. There is a lot of evidence....

I understand your point of view.
You could say that getting information in understandable chunks helps us to get used to the idea, so that if something big happens there will be a degree of acceptance.
If nothing major happens then there will be a sense of relief.
My generation grew up with the very real threat of nuclear war.
No matter what happens death of the body is a very individual experience--- many will die today--- many will be born today-- life goes on.
When there is a knowing that "I am not the body" fear is non existent or greatly reduced.
Best wishes
Chris

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below i'm posting again the hopi prophecy regarding the two kachinas. if you read the scribd file and compare the prophecies of the bible and that of the hopi you'll notice that elenin might indeed be the blue kachina because it arrives EXACTLY at the predicted beginning of the endtimes/great tribulation. it could even be a space ship as hoagland says since the accuracy with which it arrives is really uncanny.

source: http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/es...nda_hopi12.htm

The following is an excerpt from LAST CRY Native American Prophecies & Tales of the End Times, by Dr. Robert Ghost Wolf, 1994-2004.

It has appeared in numerous articles over the web, and in magazines all over the world.

"The story of the Blue Kachina is a very old story, very old. I have been aware of the story of the Blue Kachina since I was very young. I was told this story by grandfathers who are now between 80 and 108 years of age. Frank Waters also wrote about Saquasohuh, the Blue Star Kachina in The Book of the Hopi, The story came from Grandfather Dan, Oldest Hopi

"It was told to me that first the Blue Kachina would start to be seen at the dances, and would make his appearance known to the children in the plaza during the night dance. This event would tell us that the end times are very near. Then the Blue Star Kachina would physically appear in our heavens which would mean that we were in the end times.

"In the Final days we will look up in our heavens and we will witness the return of the two brothers who helped create this world in the birthing time. Poganghoya is the guardian of our North Pole and his Brother Palongawhoya is the guardian of the South pole. In the final days the Blue Star Katchina will come to be with his nephews and they will return the Earth to its natural rotation which is counter clock wise.

"This fact is evidenced in many petroglyphs that speak of the Zodiac, and within the Mayan and Egyptian pyramids. The rotation of the Earth has been manipulated by not so benevolent Star beings. The twins will be seen in our North Western skies. They will come and visit to see who still remembered the original teachings flying in their Patuwvotas, or flying shields. They will bring many of their star family with them in the final days.

"The return of the Blue Star Katchina who is also known as Nan ga sohu will be the alarm clock that tells us of the new day and new way of life, a new world that is coming. This is where the changes will begin. They will start as fires that burn within us, and we will burn up with desires and conflict if we do not remember the original teachings, and return to the peaceful way of life.

"Not far behind the twins will come the Purifier - The Red Katchina, who will bring the Day of Purification. On this day the Earth, her creatures and all life as we know it will change forever. There will be messengers that will precede this coming of the Purifier. They will leave messages to those on Earth who remember the old ways.

"The messages will be found written in the living stone, through the sacred grains, and even the waters. (Crop Circles have been found in ice) From the Purifier will issue forth a great Red Light. All things will change in their manner of being. Every living thing will be offered the opportunity to change from the largest to the smallest thing.

"Those who return to the ways given to us in the original teachings, and live a natural way of life will not be touched by the coming of the Purifier. They will survive and build the new world. Only in the ancient teachings will the ability to understand the messages be found.

"It is important to understand that these messages will be found upon every living thing, even within our bodies, even within a drop of our blood. All life forms will receive the messages from the twins... those that fly, the plants, even the rabbit. The appearance of the twins begins a period of seven years will be our final opportunity to change our ways. Everything we experience is all a matter of choice.

"Many will appear to have lost their souls in these final days. So intense will the nature of the changes be that those who are weak in spiritual awareness will go insane, for we are nothing without spirit. They will disappear, for they are just hollow vessels for any thing to use. Life will be so bad in the cities that many will choose to leave this plane. Some in whole groups.

"Only those who return to the values of the old ways will be able to find peace of mind. For in the Earth we shall find relief from the madness that will be all around us. It will be a very hard time for women with children for they will be shunned, and many of the children in these times will be unnatural. Some being from the Stars some from past worlds, some will even be created by man in an unnatural manner and will be souless. Many of people in this time will be empty in Spirit they will have Sampacu. No life force in their eyes.

"As we get close to the time of arrival the Purifier there will be those who walk as ghosts through the cities, through canyons they will have constructed in their man made mountains. Those that walk through these places will be very heavy in their walk, it will appear almost painful as they take each step for they will be disconnected from their spirit and the Earth.

"After the arrival of the twins, they will begin to vanish before your eyes like so muck smoke. Others will have great deformities, both in the mind and upon their bodies. There will be those who would walk in the body that are not from this reality, for many of the gateways that once protected us will be opened, there will be much confusion. Confusion between sexes, and children and their elders.

"Life will get very perverted, and there will be little social order, in these times many will ask for the mountains themselves to fall upon them just to end their misery. Still others will appear as if untouched by what is occurring. The ones who remember the original teachings and have reconnected their hearts and spirit. Those who remember who their mother and father is. The Pahana who have left to live in the Mountains and forest.

"When the Purifier comes we will see him first as a small Red Star which will come very close and sit in our heavens watching us. Watching us to see how well we have remembered the sacred teachings.

"This Purifier will show us many miraculous signs in our heavens. In this way we will know Creator is not a dream. Even those who do not feel their connection to spirit will see the face of creator across the sky. Things unseen will be felt very strongly.

"Many things will begin to occur that will not make sense, for reality will be shifting back in and out of the dream state. There will be many doorways to the lower world that will open at this time. Things long forgotten will come back to remind us of our past creations. All living things will want to be present for this day when time ends, and we enter the forever cycle of the Fifth World.

"We will receive many warnings allowing us to change our ways from below the Earth as well as above. Then one morning in a moment. We will awaken to the Red Dawn. The sky will be the color of blood, many things will then begin to happen that right now we are nor sure of their exact nature. For much of reality will not be as it is now.

"There will be many strange beasts upon the Earth in those days, some from the past and some that we have never seen. The nature of mankind will appear strange in these times we walk between worlds and we will house many spirits even within our bodies After a time we will again walk with our brothers from the Stars, and rebuild this Earth. But not until the Purifier has left his mark upon the universe.

"No thing living will go untouched, here or in the heavens. The way through this time it is said is to be found in our hearts, and reuniting with our spiritual self. Getting simple and returning to living with and upon the Earth and in harmony with her creatures. Remembering that we are the caretakers, the fire keepers of the Spirit. Our relatives from the Stars are coming home to see how well we have faired in our journey.

[greybeard]

I really appreciate your mixing of the ancient and the scientific, Truth is In There.
Regards Chris