Arthurian Dynasty-In Search of the Prince of Wales (Cymry)

[Rocky_Shorz]

now look at the link between the Caspian and Capsian...

The Capsian culture (named after the town of Gafsa in Tunisia) was a Mesolithic culture of the Maghreb, which lasted from about 10,000 to 6,000 BCE. It was concentrated mainly in modern Tunisia, Algeria and Libya, with some sites attested in southern Spain to Sicily. It is traditionally divided into two horizons, the Capsien typique (Typical Capsian) and the Capsien supérieur (Upper Capsian) which are sometimes found in chronostratigraphic sequence. They represent variants of one tradition, the differences between them being both typological and technological.[1][2]

During this period, the environment of the Maghreb was open savanna, much like modern East Africa, with Mediterranean forests at higher altitudes.[3] The Capsian diet included a wide variety of animals, ranging from aurochs and hartebeest to hares and snails; there is little evidence concerning plants eaten.[4][5]. During the succeeding Neolithic of Capsian Tradition, there is evidence from one site, for domesticated, probably imported, ovicaprids. [6]

Anatomically, Capsian populations were modern Homo sapiens, traditionally classed into two "racial" types: Proto-Mediterranean and Mechta-Afalou on the basis of cranial morphology. Some have argued that they were immigrants from the east, [7] whereas others argue for population continuity based on physical skeletal characteristics and other criteria,[8] et cetera.[4][8][9]

Given its widespread occurrence in the Sahara, the Capsian culture is identified by some historical linguists as a possible ancestor of the speakers of modern Afroasiatic languages of Africa and the Middle East which includes the Berber languages in North Africa[10].

Nothing is known about Capsian religion, but their burial methods suggest a belief in an afterlife. Decorative art is widely found at their sites, including figurative and abstract rock art, and ocher is found coloring both tools and corpses. Ostrich eggshells were used to make beads and containers; seashells were used for necklaces. The Ibero-Maurusian practice of evulsion of the central incisors continued sporadically, but became rarer.

The Eburran industry which dates between 13,000 and 9,000 BCE in East Africa, was formerly known as the "Kenya Capsian" due to similarities in the stone blade shapes.
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the ark landed by the Caspian Sea...

[TimelessDimensions]

I am King Arthur.

[Lettherebelight]

Well, that's a real threadstopper, my dear TD...!

[Rocky_Shorz]

Posted by TimelessDimensions (here)
I am King Arthur.

what crimes did your family commit to get tossed out of England to the Prison Isle?

when did you lose the family uni-brow?

[thunder24]

Posted by Rocky_Shorz (here)
now look at the link between the Caspian and Capsian...

The Capsian culture (named after the town of Gafsa in Tunisia) was a Mesolithic culture of the Maghreb, which lasted from about 10,000 to 6,000 BCE. It was concentrated mainly in modern Tunisia, Algeria and Libya, with some sites attested in southern Spain to Sicily. It is traditionally divided into two horizons, the Capsien typique (Typical Capsian) and the Capsien supérieur (Upper Capsian) which are sometimes found in chronostratigraphic sequence. They represent variants of one tradition, the differences between them being both typological and technological.[1][2]

During this period, the environment of the Maghreb was open savanna, much like modern East Africa, with Mediterranean forests at higher altitudes.[3] The Capsian diet included a wide variety of animals, ranging from aurochs and hartebeest to hares and snails; there is little evidence concerning plants eaten.[4][5]. During the succeeding Neolithic of Capsian Tradition, there is evidence from one site, for domesticated, probably imported, ovicaprids. [6]

Anatomically, Capsian populations were modern Homo sapiens, traditionally classed into two "racial" types: Proto-Mediterranean and Mechta-Afalou on the basis of cranial morphology. Some have argued that they were immigrants from the east, [7] whereas others argue for population continuity based on physical skeletal characteristics and other criteria,[8] et cetera.[4][8][9]

Given its widespread occurrence in the Sahara, the Capsian culture is identified by some historical linguists as a possible ancestor of the speakers of modern Afroasiatic languages of Africa and the Middle East which includes the Berber languages in North Africa[10].

Nothing is known about Capsian religion, but their burial methods suggest a belief in an afterlife. Decorative art is widely found at their sites, including figurative and abstract rock art, and ocher is found coloring both tools and corpses. Ostrich eggshells were used to make beads and containers; seashells were used for necklaces. The Ibero-Maurusian practice of evulsion of the central incisors continued sporadically, but became rarer.

The Eburran industry which dates between 13,000 and 9,000 BCE in East Africa, was formerly known as the "Kenya Capsian" due to similarities in the stone blade shapes.
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the ark landed by the Caspian Sea...

So if the people around the Capsian sea were linguist ancestors for the middle east, and if The Khazars were actually from the tribe of Simeon, Then Kurdistahan would have been a blending back of some of the tribes of Israel that had went Eastward? And then if Mary/bloodline/what ever you wanna call it traveled to the Isles in the United Kingdom, Everybody would be related to everybody? And if the ark landed in Kurdistahan then the people there would have already been of the pre- Israilite lineage?
Interesting.
peace

[Rocky_Shorz]

it is a very small world...

could Atlantis have been an undersea "bunker" made by ETs to ride out a catastrophe? Onyx said the "red" was from radiation exposure... has this planet been through a nuclear war before?


most importantly, did leprechauns come from under the sea?

[thunder24]

Doesn't the Vedas and sitchens work portray nuclear type wars?

According to Sitchin, Nibiru (called "the twelfth planet" because, Sitchin claimed, the Sumerians' gods-given conception of the Solar System counted all eight planets, plus Pluto, the Sun and the Moon) was the home of a technologically advanced human-like extraterrestrial race called the Anunnaki in Sumerian myth, who Sitchin states are called the Nephilim in Genesis. He wrote that they evolved after Nibiru entered the solar system and first arrived on Earth probably 450,000 years ago, looking for minerals, especially gold, which they found and mined in Africa. Sitchin states that these "gods" were the rank-and-file workers of the colonial expedition to Earth from planet Nibiru.

Sitchin wrote that Enki suggested that to relieve the Anunnaki, who had mutinied over their dissatisfaction with their working conditions, that primitive workers (Homo sapiens) be created by genetic engineering as slaves to replace them in the gold mines by crossing extraterrestrial genes with those of Homo erectus.[5][6] According to Sitchin, ancient inscriptions report that the human civilization in Sumer, Mesopotamia, was set up under the guidance of these "gods", and human kingship was inaugurated to provide intermediaries between mankind and the Anunnaki (creating the "divine right of kings" doctrine). Sitchin believes that fallout from nuclear weapons, used during a war between factions of the extraterrestrials, is the "evil wind" described in the Lament for Ur that destroyed Ur around 2000 BC. Sitchin states the exact year is 2024 BC.[7] Sitchin says that his research coincides with many biblical texts, and that biblical texts come originally from Sumerian writings.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zecharia_Sitchin


Scientist find radiated ancient city in India.

The radiation still so intense, the area is highly dangerous
A heavy layer of radioactive ash in Rajasthan, India, covers a three-square mile area, ten miles west of Jodhpur. Scientists are investigating the site, where a housing development was being built.
For some time it has been established that there is a very high rate of birth defects and cancer in the area under construction. The levels of radiation there have registered so high on investigators' gauges that the Indian government has now cordoned off the region. Scientists have unearthed an ancient city where evidence shows an atomic blast dating back thousands of years, from 8,000 to 12,000 years, destroyed most of the buildings and probably a half-million people. One researcher estimates that the nuclear bomb used was about the size of the ones dropped on Japan in 1945.

http://scienceinvedas.blogspot.com/2...ated-from.html

[Lettherebelight]

Yes, the Vedas speak of nuclear weapons (astras). There is an entire part of the Vedas, the Dhanur Veda, dedicated to the military sciences, and all aspects pertaining to them.

This knowledge was carefully guarded and only shared amongst bramanas and ksatriyas. They knew that in the wrong hands, this knowledge could have a devastating affect on human society.

[TWINCANS]

Does anyone else here have past life memories of Atlantis in the final years?
My understanding is that the Annunaki are way, way different than the Atlanteans yet both had to live for periods together on earth. Also that Atlantis was divided into four sectors for the four peoples that settled it. Also that in the early days Lemuria was still a major force and that those 'people' were also very very different. Then before that was Mu and so on and so on. I believe that earth's history of settlement is many, many millions of years old. Very complex.

The 'bad guys' in my opinion are definitely the Annunaki and the race they 'made.' Once the Annunaki left, their 'children' left behind were very angry and still are.

[9eagle9]

So we've been told that every one moved from east to west, but more evidence is coming to light that folks moved from west to east.Which really makes a lot more sense than trying to flumfoozle and make timelines and artifacts fit a certain criteria. I had always been under the impression that the Welsh were of spanish extraction but ...that may have come later.

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The Celt-Iberian Spain

The Greeks referred to the original inhabitants of the Iberian Peninsula as Iberians. There are, however, several different populations. According to archaeological, anthropological and genetic research, the Iberians should have arrived to the peninsula at the time of the Neolithic (5000 - 3000 BC).

Some scientists believe that they came originally from the eastern Mediterranean, others believe that they were related to the founders of the megalithic culture (UK, Ireland, France), of which there are numerous findings also in Spain.

The most advanced Iberians were undoubtedly the Tartessos, who founded the oldest Western-European high culture, and their descendants "Turdetanos" and "Turdulos".

By 1200 b.C. Celtic tribes entered the peninsula from the north, mixing up with Iberians and so generating the celt-iberian race. The origin of the bask race living in the north of the country is uncertain, but many historians suppose that it goes back to a pre-iberian population...
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so the Welsh started in Spain and had the Celtics join them from the north...

The Welsh didn't come from the Celts, they came from the eastern Mediterranean area...

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Posted by TimelessDimensions (here)
I am King Arthur.

But I'm the one with the Stonehenge Action Playset....

[Rocky_Shorz]

I finally found good info on the Picts...

It is in the sculptured stones of Scotland, left behind by the Pictish and proto-Pictish people of ancient Alba and present day Scotland that we can find some information about a mighty race of people who defied and defeated Rome and who slaughtered the invincible barbarian hordes of Angles Germans at Nechtansmere in Angus, and hammered the invading Vikings back home thus forever preserving a separate culture and race in Scotland. It is in these sometimes mighty, sometimes delicate stones that the history of ancient Scotland is now recorded. Were they descendants of the ancient Basque people of northern Spain once known to Rome as Pictones, who then migrated to northern Britain after they had helped the Empire defeat the seagoing people of Biscay? Or are they descendants of the dark tribes of ancient Stygia and the huge Eastern steepes? No one knows - only the Stones...great info on Picts

Templar cross on an ancient stone?



The greatest fighters of the age, suddenly disappear at the time of the first viking voyage to America 900-1000?

[thunder24]

Scottish people gets their name from an egyptian pharoahs daughter?

According the Irish origin myths, King Brigus built Breoghan's Tower or Brigantia in Galicia, and also the city of Brigantia or Braganza in Portugal. He also created the most ancient kingdom of Castile which was then also called after him or "Brigia." The ancient Celtic blood of the Castilians was later the driving force in the creation of the modern Spanish nation as the Kingdoms of Castile and Aragon joined under the crowns of Isabella and Ferdinand in the 15th century.

Some Victorian scholars, such as John O'Hart, submit that "Castile" (or "Castilla" or "Castle Land" in Spanish) itself was so called from the figure of a castle which Brigus bore for his Coat of Arms on his banner. The name of that ancient land, however, can only be historically traced to the Dark Ages. In any event, King Brigus, well used to conquering lands and establishing new kingdoms, sent a colony of his people into Britain. His invaders settled in that territory now known as the counties of Durham, Westmoreland, Lancaster, and perhaps Cumberland. These settlers were named after him and were called "Brigantes" by the Greeks. It was these people who ferociously opposed the Roman invader centuries later.

Of even more interest to Pictophiles, King Brigus' son was named Bile, and he was also a Celtic King of Spain. Several Pictish Kings were also called Bile or Bili, including its most famous King, the destroyer of the Angles at Dunnichen in 685 A.D. The name Bile is of high interest also to students of Celtic mythology. According to the Celtic Encyclopedia


"In British tradition he was called Bel or Belinus, but in Irish he was Bile. In some texts, he is said to come to Ireland from Spain - which is clearly intended to be the Land of the Dead. The fires of Beltaine were lit to mark his recognized feast. Very little is known of his mythos, but he, like Danu who is sometimes named as his consort, was a powerful ancestral deity to the Celtic races. (bil-ay) One of the names of the god of Death (i.e. of the Underworld), father of Miled; equivalent, Cymric god Beli, husband of Don".
Bile's son was Milesius, perhaps the most famous of all the Celtic Kings of Spain and the father of the Irish race. As a youth Milesius, distinguished himself as a warrior in Egypt and was also known as Galamh. According to Hynes:

"The original name of Milesius of Spain was, as already mentioned, "Galamh" (gall : Irish, a stranger; amh, a negative affix), which means, no stranger: meaning that he was no stranger in Egypt, where he was called "Milethea Spaine," which was afterwards contracted to "Miló Spaine" (meaning the Spanish Hero), and finally to "Milesiius" (mileadh: Irish, a hero; Lat. miles, a soldier)".


Because of his prowess as a warrior, Milesius was given the hand of Scotta, daughter of the Egyptian pharaoh. From her name comes the name of the Scottish people. He took her to Spain and they reigned as King and Queen of that European nation.

As legend has it, it was his uncle (or perhaps brother or even grandfather), Ith, who one clear day saw the outlines of Ireland from a high tower built by King Brigus. King Miled then sent a fleet of warriors to investigate and by the time it was all over and done, Ith was killed trying to solve a dispute between three kings in Ireland and as a result the avenging Sons of Mile conquered Ireland and defeated the Tuatha de Danaan. According to the Celtic Encyclopedia, the Danaan were:

"The people of Dana. They ruled Ireland after Nemed, according to the Book of Invasions, and were descended from one of his great-grandsons. They were supposed to come from the northern isles of Greece where they had learned all the arts of magic. They brought four treasures with them from these parts: the Stone of Fal from Falias, which screamed under the foot of every rightful king; the Spear of Lugh, which came from Gorias; the Sword of Nuada, from Findias; and the Cauldron of the Dagda from Murias. They fought long against the Fomorians and the Firbolgs, but were eventually vanguished by the Milesians, after which they retired to the Otherworld."
and the Firbolg people. Again, according to the Celtic Encyclopedia the Firbolg were:
"(fir vulag) Nemedian survivors who return to Ireland; name signifies 'Men of the Bags'; the FirBolg, FirDomnan, and Galionin races general-ly designated as the Firbolgs; the Danaan's and the Firbolgs; The first inhabitants of Ireland, according to ancient traditions, were the Firbolgs, who were conquered and driven into the Western Islands by the Tuatha De Danann. The Firbolgs became the first Fairies of Ireland, Giant-like, grotesque creatures. They and the Tuatha De Danann may be compared with the Titans and the Olynpic gods of Greece; They settled in Ireland, fleeing Greece where they had been enslaved and made to carry earth in bags. They afterwards made ships out of these bags and sailed to Spain. They held Ireland after the death of Nemed until the coming of the Tuatha de Danaan."
who at that point were the living in Ireland. It is thus that the Irish are known as "the Milesian race."
And thus we now come to the Pictish connection - probably more fable than truth, but present nonetheless

http://halfmoon.tripod.com/Spain.html

[TimelessDimensions]

Y'all can stop looking because I'm the Prince of New South Wales

[Rocky_Shorz]

so they crossed up through Morocco to Spain to settle from Egypt in Boats?

[thunder24]

Can you point to where the info is on morocco, or do you mean through the mediterrainian sea?
peace

[Rocky_Shorz]

looking at the earthquake in Spain 3 days after we were talking about it made me look a little closer into the history... map link

Furthermore, the ancients also named the various tribes of northern Britain years before the Romans set foot on Britain and one of the most famous of all were the "Brigantes."

Some scholars believe that the Brigantes were named after a Spanish Celtic king. Breoghan (or Brigus or Bregon) who was king of Galicia, Murcia, Castile, and Portugal, and may have even reigned further south in Andalucia - all of which he conquered during the expansion of Celtic culture into Spain. The name "Obregon" is still quite common in northern Spain... link

[Rocky_Shorz]

so the 13th tribe leads to...

Jacob's wives had twelve sons - the thirteenth tribe comes with the inclusion of his two grandchildren, Joseph's sons, who Jacob adopted as his own 'firstborn' sons, Manasseh and Ephraim are counted as one tribe. Dinah has not been included in the Israelite tribes, mainly because I have not done any research on her line as of present - maybe later... link

How did 'Dan' leap from Manasseh's territory? Well, I was just about to tell you, so get ready to set another good cookie. You see, in the summer of 1015 CE, Canute the Great, a son of a Danish King, set sail with his fleet of 200 long-ships, and an army of around 10,000 men. Canute was a Great 'Danite' and boosted about his large troop of Vikings warriors that were simply fearless. A gruesome warfare with England [Manasseh] took place for a period of fourteen months. This brutal war ended in 1016 with the agreement that England was to be divided between Denmark's Canute and England's Edmund Ironside, but as luck would have it, Edmund died on November 30, 1016, leaving England united under Danish rule, which continued until the death of Canute's son, Harthacanute in 1042. Thereafter, the kingdom of Manasseh - England, that is, was once again independent. There could have been other times, but this is the one I am using here. Canute liked to be known as the 'king of Christendom'.

Speaking of Christianity, the 'unHoly Roman Empire' was a German-state Empire from 843-1806 CE. These ten 'toes', I mean Germanic nations, emerged out of the eastern part of the Carolingian Empire. This situation with the unHoly Roman Empire ‘beast’ lasted until Napoleon put an end to it in 1806. Is it any wonder that Dan's name was omitted from the list of tribes in the book of Revelation? This unHoly Roman Empire was probably the evilest thing that ever existed on the face of the earth bar none. Dan, what were you thinking – talk about a devilish beast, listen to this:

“Dan shall be a serpent by the way, an adder in the path that biteth the horse heels, so that his rider shall fall backward.” Both Denmark and Germany have had very power armies in the past, but the role Germany played throughout the Dark Ages, and not forgetting the years from 1930-1945, is inexcusable to say the least. For shame. Dan needs to redeem himself for sure. There I go judging Dan, must be a couple family lines from the tribe of Dan running through my veins.

Dan the Serpent: The serpent and the swastika are said to be siblings; the serpent as the darker side of power in the Universe, the swastika represents that force in motion.

Gen 30:6 And Rachel said, God hath judged me, and hath also heard my voice, and hath given me a son: therefore she called his name Dan, so the name ‘Dan’ means, to judge... link

[Anno]

Is there an official term for when you post on a thread so you remember to read it tomorrow as you're about to go to bed? Whatever it's called, that's what this post is. =]

[Lord Sidious]

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Is there an official term for when you post on a thread so you remember to read it tomorrow as you're about to go to bed? Whatever it's called, that's what this post is. =]

Placeholder?

[Anno]

Posted by Lord Sidious (here)

Posted by Anno (here)
Is there an official term for when you post on a thread so you remember to read it tomorrow as you're about to go to bed? Whatever it's called, that's what this post is. =]

Placeholder?

That doesn't really sound 'internet' enough does it. There should be a cool sounding word for it.