Planet X/Nibiru/Tyche/Hercolobus/Elenin

[RedeZra]

Posted by The Truth Is In There (here)
i just try to assemble facts and get a good view of what's ahead of us.

fact is that Saturn has not tilted 35 degrees nor 90 degrees ; )

it is still storm spinning around in a perfect predictable pattern in harmony with the Stellarium software







besides because of field rotation it will seem that the tilt even changes from one hour til the next which of course it doesn't

http://www.flickr.com/photos/vontom/...n/photostream/

[Calz]

Was still hoping to get confirmation regarding Saturn.

Could the photos themselves have been rotated???

That would still not account for the Saturn moon images ... nor the storm.

[RedeZra]

Posted by Calz_Avaretard (here)
Was still hoping to get confirmation regarding Saturn.

Could the photos themselves have been rotated???

That would still not account for the Saturn moon images ... nor the storm.

Saturn unlike Earth seems to store up to super storms and then unleash it lasting several months

[Calz]

Posted by RedeZra (here)

Posted by Calz_Avaretard (here)
Was still hoping to get confirmation regarding Saturn.

Could the photos themselves have been rotated???

That would still not account for the Saturn moon images ... nor the storm.

Saturn unlike Earth seems to store up to super storms and then unleash it lasting several months

Yes but isn't this one much larger in scope than most?

[Calz]

Posted by ponda


Here's Richard C Hoagland's perspective on Elenin from Red Ice Radio


Richard C. Hoagland - Comet Elenin as a Time Capsule, Norway Attack & The Messengers of Horus

July 25, 2011

Richard C. Hoagland is a former museum space science Curator, a former NASA Consultant and was science advisor to Walter Cronkite and CBS News. In the early 1970's, Hoagland proposed to Carl Sagan (along with Eric Burgess) the placement of a "message to Mankind" aboard Pioneer 10 -- humanity's "first" unmanned probe of Jupiter. Since then he has been pioneering the pursuit of uncovering the hidden data of our solar system. He is the author of several books, probably most famous for his theories on the face on Mars. His website enterprisemission.com, is updated regularly with analytical research into current anomalies on our planet and way beyond. In this interview, Richard shares his convincing theory about Comet Elenin, its symbolism, purpose and message which is a positive one. He rips apart the fear-porn propaganda about Comet Elenin as this is a key point in time and someone or something is intervening to steer consciousness into another direction. Could it be that Elenin is a time capsule sent by our ancestors containing important information crucial for this time? Then, Hoagland weaves together an intense eye-opener which connects Comet Elenin with September 11, the original masonic message, the bombing in Norway and the secret space program.






More links and also listen here:

http://www.redicecreations.com/radio...RIR-110726.php

I know some people don't like Hoagland ... but this is worth listening to.

[nearing]

Posted by Calz_Avaretard (here)

I know some people don't like Hoagland ... but this is worth listening to.

Sorry, Calz, but I cannot stomach him any more. i tried to give him a regular listen on C2C because I have a lot of respect for George Noory but after the Elenin stuff he spouts makes me cringe.

[Ilie Pandia]

May I at least add a question mark after the title of this thread ?

(Although I feel "Nibiru or Lens flare in Oregon?" would be more appropriate as a title.)

[gigha]

100% lens flare. Happens all the time if you shoot towards the sun.

[giovonni]

Whether lens flare or not...something really big is causing a gravitational tug upon this planet as well as my head

[Calz]

Posted by giovonni (here)
Whether lens flare or not...something really big is causing a gravitational tug upon this planet as well as my head

This material (posted by The Truth Is In There via another link) seems valid. Nibiru (Wormwood, planet x or whatever ... there are several other bodies coming as well) is still a year (at least) out but the magnetic effect (not gravity as we have been led to believe) is so great it is already being felt. Note what this document implies has already happened to Saturn (hoping to get more verification of that).


http://thetruthbehindthescenes.files...-of-truth1.pdf

[Operator]

Posted by nearing (here)
Sorry, Calz, but I cannot stomach him any more. i tried to give him a regular listen on C2C because I have a lot of respect for George Noory but after the Elenin stuff he spouts makes me cringe.

Well he lost me as well ... all the so called hyper-dimensional proof from the Norway spiral, Obama being the 'disclosure president' etc. etc. never really came to fruition ...
But it is always worth listening to someone ... especially when they start spreading nonsense because then the real agenda comes out.

I listened to this hour on red ice ... and you won't believe what it is about this time ...
More attention for the NWO so called 'dawn' and a push toward the real (good ?) masons ?

Am I the only one noticing that more and more prominent speakers are making a subtle twist on their info toward the NWO ?
It could be I am totally wrong, just don't understand ... English is not my native language.

[Hervé]

Another tack from Redice with Maurice Cotterell:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=UNfB6REOPrw

Author, Engineer and Scientist, Maurice Cotterell will discuss his latest book, FutureScience. FutureScience explains several topics such as how electricity and magnetism work together to produce the force of gravity, why the atom is comprised of 8 orbital shells, the nature of so-called 'dark matter', the reason why spiral galaxies are spiral shaped, why the centre of the Earth is red-hot, and how the Earth's magnetic field is generated. These are some of the topics we'll discuss with Maurice in this interview. He'll begin talking about the need for holistic science that incorporates engineering, chemistry, physics, history, spirituality, etc. and talk about the "God within us" that allows us to figure things out. He'll tell us why CERN is a waste of money and time. Additionally, Maurice will talk about the Sun, its cycles, its effect on fertility, how it causes global-warming-and-global-cooling and its relationship to Mercury. Maurice will also tell us why the magnetic poles won't be flipping anytime soon and will dispel the myth about 2012.

The connection between Sun and Mercury, as the cause for Earth electromagnetic storms, was empirically discovered by John H. Nelson in the 60s:

http://www.sott.net/articles/show/22...-are-heatin-up-

[ghostrider]

Posted by J0urney (here)
My skies are usually clear all the time and I don't see any of this. If they are that close shouldn't you be able to see them all the time? I'm not saying they aren't there, it's just that I look everyday and never see a thing.

take a photo of the sun, then turn up the saturation a bit, the object can only be seen in infrared=brown dwarf it is there. happy hunting my friend.

[Hervé]

Waow!

Look at that above post number!

[dddanieljjjamesss]

Posted by Calz_Avaretard (here)

Posted by giovonni (here)
Whether lens flare or not...something really big is causing a gravitational tug upon this planet as well as my head

This material (posted by The Truth Is In There via another link) seems valid. Nibiru (Wormwood, planet x or whatever ... there are several other bodies coming as well) is still a year (at least) out but the magnetic effect (not gravity as we have been led to believe) is so great it is already being felt. Note what this document implies has already happened to Saturn (hoping to get more verification of that).


http://thetruthbehindthescenes.files...-of-truth1.pdf

I'm looking at this PDF right now.

At first I was like, "hmmm... where is he getting these calculations from"

and then I thought, "you know what, the nasa preparedness image-banner could easily be saying something along the lines of 'space object at a distance - tilting the rings of saturn to nearly verticle - THIS IS WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE UP CLOSE"

Which would make sense that they are making a psy-op out of Elenin.

If ANYTHING extraordinary should happen when Elenin passes, whether purely stunning beauty in the stars, or mass chaos, we will think that it was either nothing to worry about or that TSHTF in that moment right there... when we in fact have another tribulation coming our way.

MAN IS THIS AN AMAZING TIME!
So beautiful to imagine / see these things in the sky.

We're going home after this, either way. No matter what happens - if these things come to fruition, we are going to surely remember our place in the cosmos...

[Calz]

One of a whole host of possibilities.

Which would make sense that they are making a psy-op out of Elenin.

I agree completely with those suggesting if a massive body was parked right next to the Sun it would be more than obvious in many ways by now.

... but something is certainly happening and no one can deny that.

[ponda]

Posted by Calz_Avaretard (here)
Was still hoping to get confirmation regarding Saturn.

Could the photos themselves have been rotated???

That would still not account for the Saturn moon images ... nor the storm.

Well i had a bit of a look around and couldn't find any evidence of a 90 degree tilting of Saturn and there are literally thousands of amateur astronomers out there keeping a very close eye on Saturn and Jupiter.

Also if there was such a strong influence on Saturn that made it tilt 90 degrees then wouldn't the rings be disrupted in a noticeable way ? Maybe not...i don't know. I'm not saying that there isn't a large body out there etc but there are a lot of people with decent back yard telescopes watching the night skies these days so if something unusual does show up then i would suspect that it find its way onto the web fairly quickly.

[Calz]

Posted by ponda (here)

Posted by Calz_Avaretard (here)
Was still hoping to get confirmation regarding Saturn.

Could the photos themselves have been rotated???

That would still not account for the Saturn moon images ... nor the storm.

Well i had a bit of a look around and couldn't find any evidence of a 90 degree tilting of Saturn and there are literally thousands of amateur astronomers out there keeping a very close eye on Saturn and Jupiter.

Also if there was such a strong influence on Saturn that made it tilt 90 degrees then wouldn't the rings be disrupted in a noticeable way ? Maybe not...i don't know. I'm not saying that there isn't a large body out there etc but there are a lot of people with decent back yard telescopes watching the night skies these days so if something unusual does show up then i would suspect that it find its way onto the web fairly quickly.

On the RedIce interview the "H - name" suggests we the people can actually get hooked up with major telescopes and download to our computers.

Thats kinda cool.

Wonder how much that costs???

[ponda]

Calz said:

On the RedIce interview the "H - name" suggests we the people can actually get hooked up with major telescopes and download to our computers.

Thats kinda cool.

Hey maybe we could book the Hubble for a few nights

[bennycog]

Would there be a nibiru in other solar system's aswell?
An eccentric force that shapes and creates as it hurtles through it's orbit?
Would it be some sort of solar perpetual motion that makes sure the solar system's are kept running to support life?
would there be solar system's that are in motion like the sun and nibiru/dwarf star to create perpetual motion to keep the galaxy in check?
And so on and so on