Pane Andov; Our Sun becomes a Red Giant in 2012

[WhiteFeather]

Posted by Lord Sidious (here)
The thing is, there are many, many people out there saying a lot of things.
If I haven't heard what they say before, I instantly get into investigation mode.
Why didn't I hear about this before?
Is there anyone else talking about it?
Is there anything verifiable from another source?
And things of that nature.
That isn't to say that new things aren't true, but if only one guy speaks of it, then that in itself is interesting too.

Pane Andov simply connects the larger dots for us here. This guy is out of the universe literally with his perspectives. Most amazing concepts to say the least. Seems he is on to something here.

[9eagle9]

He's into something all right. ...lol.

[ghostrider]

the emv's won't let our sun go to a red giant. not possible would ruin the project called human.

[Lord Sidious]

Posted by Davidallany (here)

Nope, I didn't watch em.
I am on wireless and have limited bandwidth, so I am picky which vids I do watch and which ones I don't.

My Nuggetarianisim kicks in, it's time for some Afra'a Hazeh

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=71Gp3DM5ROQ

Alf shurkr, Daoud.
That is a good find, arabs posting Ofra videos.
Just like I said, she is a bridge between the brothers.

[Calz]

Hmmm ... wonder how this one will be interpretted???





http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2...orse2011a.html

(note: ponda 1st posted this in another thread)

[Calz]

Posted by ghostrider (here)
the emv's won't let our sun go to a red giant. not possible would ruin the project called human.

No doubt posted elsewhere. Putting here in case anyone is not familiar with "emv".

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=5rZHB0wetl0

[Calz]

One last (hopefully) post here regarding the red giant.

I sent email to Pane about week ago and have not gotten a reply. I was hoping he could elaborate. I don't know if his red giant theory was based on info from ETs or simply on the crop formation(s).

Here is Wilcock talking about the same formation (go about 2 mintues in):

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=q8IHZE1-lOo

It could well be the enlarged sun (in the follow-up pattern) is representative of something other than a rapid growth into a red giant. Perhaps the solar flare activity in reaction to the "superwave" is such that the cme's would extend that far (setting aside EMV protection anyway).

With what appears to be solid evidence of Nibiru surfacing (see elenin/nibiru thread) it is probably a moot point although "planet x" is also depicted and talked about in this crop circle. Perhaps it has something to do with Pluto being out of place for the dec 21 (or 23), 2012 date?

Andov has solid material for all the other "dots" he connects so unless he eventually responds to my email or else new information surfaces I guess it is time to move on.

Thanks for the thread mojo.

[The Truth Is In There]

Posted by Calz_Avaretard (here)
One last (hopefully) post here regarding the red giant.

I sent email to Pane about week ago and have not gotten a reply. I was hoping he could elaborate. I don't know if his red giant theory was based on info from ETs or simply on the crop formation(s).

Here is Wilcock talking about the same formation (go about 2 mintues in):

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=q8IHZE1-lOo

It could well be the enlarged sun (in the follow-up pattern) is representative of something other than a rapid growth into a red giant. Perhaps the solar flare activity in reaction to the "superwave" is such that the cme's would extend that far (setting aside EMV protection anyway).

With what appears to be solid evidence of Nibiru surfacing (see elenin/nibiru thread) it is probably a moot point although "planet x" is also depicted and talked about in this crop circle. Perhaps it has something to do with Pluto being out of place for the dec 21 (or 23), 2012 date?

Andov has solid material for all the other "dots" he connects so unless he eventually responds to my email or else new information surfaces I guess it is time to move on.

Thanks for the thread mojo.

there's a lot of energy coming in with planet x and it's expected to reach perihelion around september 2012, give or take a few months, so something is definitely going to happen with the sun. unfortunately i'm not an expert on electromagnetism but maybe someone can explain what happens if two intense magnetic fields, one circling clockwise, the other counterclockwise, clash. do they negate or augment each other?

[Calz]

Okay - Pane has indeed responded to my email:

Hi Cal,

IBEX has measured high energy fluxes along the galactic plane of the Milky Way. We are talking about few million degrees C hot cloud with extreme magnetic properties. Of course this is not a cloud but the spreading wave of energy from the explosion of the galactic core of the milky way in the distant past. Chandra team knows what is going on and that cosmic jet was ejected out from the Sgr A* but they are not allowed to talk about it.

So here is the situation we are facing: http://www.sciencedaily.com/images/2...1114-large.jpg There is no chance that this wave will miss us.

Mainstream science does not deny that we will make a physical contact with this cloud. Deliberate false estimation of contact is given - 100 years in the future. In reality they either speculate or not telling the truth on purpose. 6 months of extensive scan by IBEX had shown how fast is moving - ancients and ETs are correct - estimate time of impact Dec 23 2012.

The temperature of the magnetic ribbon is Millions of degrees C. The temperature of the surface of the Sun is around 6000 C however the Sun's corona is by factor 200 hotter then the surface of the sun's plasma. Now facts: Science confirms existence of M. Ribbon at the border of our Heliosphere in the direction of the galactic plane, with extreme magnetic properties. Fact two: the surface of the sun is only 6000 C with only hot atmosphere around it.

The official science claims we will hit this interstellar cloud of energy in 100 y which is incorrect and it’s the spreading wave of energy of the Sgr A* outburst in distant past. So the contact with the sun is again a fact and science has no problem with it only the time of the contact. When a cloud highly highly magnetic with temperature of few millions degrees C will make physical contact with the plasma surface which is less than 6000 C it will change the rate how hydrogen is fusing into helium, eliminating the whole hydrogen in a matter of seconds, starting nuclear fusion between helium and carbon and moving our star from its main sequence into what is known red giant phase. As mentioned many time before the expansion phase will last few months when on March 28 2012 outer layer of our star will be released into space, or will die in order to be reborn again into white dwarf or baby star.

This spreading wave cannot just hit the sun and jump over us.

Which means it will hit Earth also. The temperature of Earth’s Thermosphere is around 1,500 °C. Again if a magnetic cloud millions of degrees C hits a density of atmospheric gas that has temperatures less then 1,500 °C it will deplete the whole atmosphere. And I do not want to comment further about this.

In other words, gov are not hiding anything, the data is all there - people just do not want to see it...because if they face the facts and what that means they will awake from the dream and realize that clock is ticking...

That is all the time I can dedicate to this at this moment...soon more and more evidence will surface into direction.

Don't fall for the deliberate attempts to ridicule the crop circle phenomena by the man made ones - its only distraction tactics. Be smart, prepare as much as you can.

God bless, P

[greybeard]

Hi this is the energy that David Sereda talked about on the Coast to Coast talk.
It is a fact.
He also talks about the possible consequences of this, I cant do justice to a resume but it is possible we will see a very positive result.
Im not inclined to post the video again as I dont like spaming.
perhaps some one else will.

Chris

[Calz]

Much of Pane's material is of a positive nature and he is simply passing along what he has been shown from his lifetime of ET contact to help prepare humanity (those with ears to hear) for what is coming.

It isn't simply doom n gloom "fear porn".

I appreciate David Sereda's work as well (and you know that Chris)

[mojo]

Thank you for posting Panes response Calz and Greybeard thanks for mentioning David Seredas research. I posted a thread using David's information about sun changes so it seems other people are in some agreement about the changes coming. I'm having a little difficulty in the metaphysical aspect of Pane's research such as creating a flower of life shape using sacred geometry although I totally believe in the use of sacred geometry I'm having trouble in the application of it in my life. I watched some of the material Pane posted in regards to this but it's not easy for me to understand. Any help in this area would be much appreciated and perhaps it wil help me in communicating with the visitors in my sighting.

[Snoweagle]

Red Sun, 2012 ! and it warrants comments? Bunkum, twaddle and truffles!
In that case the post is in right place; Red skies need sheep, apparently plenty here, for the poster shepherd of course.

The sun is driven by scalar energy, quanta; driven by the scalar energy engine of the Milky Ways Black Hole. (Dark Matter)

[eaglespirit]

...been gazin' at the sun for almost 5 years and 1300 hours of direct eye intake at meditation...maybe I will turn into a Big Ball of Red Plasma : )

[Davidallany]

Hopefully the Mods/Admins can contact Bill/Kerry and get the ball rolling with an interview from Mr. Astralwalker himself. Would be a very interesting interview to say the least.

I second that, although the time may not be the best because of Dr. Brian O'Leary's passing.

[Flash]

Hi Cal and everyone,

First thanks for inquiring to Dr Pane and please thank him for us for his answer and the right to post it for all of us.

This is very interesting because I just listened to an interview from George Kavassillas with Kerry on Camelot this morning and George thinks that the whole solar system will definitly change and that earth will become a star itself. That was in fact a very interesting interview.

George thinks the final dates are March 2013, major changes on earth starting in December 2012. The months correspond but the year not. However, the process is similar for the sun, and the core of the earth will be transformed into a star. He also says the earth core is not metal but crystal and this will be activated in the earth change. He says the change encompasses many dimensions and time that will collapse, and some of us will be going to the fifth while others will be going to parallel universes, etc.

I saw another article that described the new discovery of scientists for the core of earth being crystal.

What amazes me is that from entirely different points of view, one scientific and the other spiritual, they both agree on the process, the only difference being the dates, one year apart, which is nothing - not even a dust - in terms of cosmic time.


the article:

http://ascendingstarseed.wordpress.c...-crystal-ball/

Here the video at camelot:


http://http://projectcamelotproducti...avassilas.html

[Davidallany]

Alf shurkr, Daoud.
That is a good find, arabs posting Ofra videos.
Just like I said, she is a bridge between the brothers.

I have been too, in my own ways, my Lord. Everything is proceeding as you have foreseen it. I wonder sometimes what language do they speak on Coruscant !! Is it the binary language of moisture vaporators ? or is that which Salacious Crumb speaks?

[Ian Gordon]

Having noted on the link to Pane's website he states that the only known safe zone is in the Australian opal mining area since it has underground water and opals can absorb gamma rays.
I have read with interest the "1st Pine lake now Woomera" thread (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...206#post273206) that the US are going to station troops in Woomera, which I believe is close enough to raise eyebrows IMHO. However I would like someone with more local knowledge to confirm my suspiscions.

[Calz]

Posted by Ian Gordon (here)
Having noted on the link to Pane's website he states that the only known safe zone is in the Australian opal mining area since it has underground water and opals can absorb gamma rays.
I have read with interest the "1st Pine lake now Woomera" thread (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...206#post273206) that the US are going to station troops in Woomera, which I believe is close enough to raise eyebrows IMHO. However I would like someone with more local knowledge to confirm my suspiscions.

I will repeat ... Pane suggests that is the only safe zone passed along to him by the ETs. (note - Pane now lives in Oz)

He does not suggest that is the only safe zone.

There are many very spiritual and very connected souls who suggest "safe zones" in other areas.

Connect to ***yourself*** perhaps you will find one as well

[Ian Gordon]

Calz,
you are quite correct, I didn't mean to alarm anyone, that is why I put my question as "known" not the only safe own zone (if the theory is correct of course) to save confusion my section quoted from Pane's website
"Only rare zones on Earth will remain shielded – places where the Hand of God is put. Places that organic life survived during the last four times of Sun Reset Point.

One location is in Australia.

Other safe locations – unknown."
later in the text from www.paneandov.com/thesun/ when talking about Australia
"One small area with a triangle shape will support life. Inside this triangle there is water deep underground and the land is filled with opals. Opal miners discovered that when you point a beam of gamma radiation – its absorbed by the opals."

No fear porn was intended, just trying to confirm if the US goverment may (or may not) be working to a similar agenda and info. I am more than happy with my location and outlook whatever the universe throws at me