What's happening in China?

[Carmody]

So, rich oil producing countries in the Middle East who lack fresh water resources couldn't afford ocean water desalination technology, and at the same time China was about to industrialize the water powered car?


It is like Brown's gas.

It is not the Brown's gas itself..... it is the immediately created gigantic doorway into Pandora's box that is created by it's mere existence.

That is the problem.

The entire control structure will dissipate into nothingness with the introduction of these 'answers with no question' into the scientific paradigm.

The unfolding is uncontrollable and it goes everywhere. Straight into transmutation, dimensional egress, direct dimensional energetic manipulation, time travel, anti gravity, dimensional shifting, and weapons. Unimaginable weapons.

The direct creation of any form of elemental matter, straight out of the primordial dimensional vibrational stew.

That's where brown's gas ...goes.

That is where water powered cars...go.

[Flash]

Ok Carmody, lets say that anything having to do with free energy also has to do with extraordinary powers, that some ET probably share, including free weaponery, unimiginable weapons.

Lets assume humans are probably not ready at all for such weapons, our civilisations being too barbaric, our individual thinking too restrictive and undeveloped, our heart and empathy often near the nill point. In other words, we are still irresponsible children and we cannot, in any circumstances, possess such weapons and knowledge at this level of development.

In that case, why has some PTB acquire such technologies most probably? What tells us they are more competent to asbstain from wrongful use? Why are we always so near to having it if we are not there yet in terms or inner development and responsibilities? Where has it gone wrong?

What would be needed for the human to change and evolve in such a way that their technological discoveries match their behavior/responsible levels.

Who ultimately decides?

With such advances, there is surely a way to make humans take a quantum step forward, or else will we return to very primitive ways?

I have no doubts that we are not ready for very powerfull instruments that could be turn into weapons just by looking at what happend in Oslo and Norway yesterday. There is not doubt that rogues should not have access to technologies that can be destructive and that there is a lot of rogues on earth.

My last question, are we all in fact rogues elements from the universe? A prison planet with almost no way out? Or are we just a developing specie with very slow progress?

Again, what tells me that PTB and Bush's like are more apt to control such technologies? Or the Chinese PTB? Isn't it what is happening actually?

I always enjoy your post for the deep thinking they provoke in all aspects. Thanks

[hao]

Posted by Carmody (here)
So, rich oil producing countries in the Middle East who lack fresh water resources couldn't afford ocean water desalination technology, and at the same time China was about to industrialize the water powered car?


It is like Brown's gas.

It is not the Brown's gas itself..... it is the immediately created gigantic doorway into Pandora's box that is created by it's mere existence.

That is the problem.

The entire control structure will dissipate into nothingness with the introduction of these 'answers with no question' into the scientific paradigm.

The unfolding is uncontrollable and it goes everywhere. Straight into transmutation, dimensional egress, direct dimensional energetic manipulation, time travel, anti gravity, dimensional shifting, and weapons. Unimaginable weapons.

The direct creation of any form of elemental matter, straight out of the primordial dimensional vibrational stew.

That's where brown's gas ...goes.

That is where water powered cars...go.

"unimaginable weapons", hmm, i actually think that's exactly what stopped China to industrialize water powered cars in the 70s

the clue is found in "Planet Earth the Latest weapon of War" by Rosalie Bertell, searching with the key word "Tangshan earthquake" yielded what i suspected.

The sequence of the events were, the Japanese were trying to develop water powered car in the early 70s, but they were stopped by political and economic pressure from America,

At roughly the same time (1974-1975), China was trying to develop similar technology as well, but it was never realized,

In July 1976, the largest earthquake by death toll hit Tangshan, a city located just northeast of the Chinese capital, many "anomalies" were observed by various disciplines of the government before the disaster, an unprecedented joined effort was done to investigate the cause of the devastating earthquake.

The UN resolution on "PROHIBITION OF MILITARY OR ANY OTHER HOSTILE USE OF
ENVIRONMENTAL MODIFICATION TECHNIQUES " was adopted in December 1976,

After the Tangshan earthquake, from the 70s to the 80s, Chinese seismologists began intense study of the relationship between earthquake clouds and earthquakes, interestingly, the Japanese were also doing the same scientific endeavor around the same period.

Zhonghao Shou's warnings, a Chinese-American who based predictions on earthquake clouds are neglected by the American authority.
http://www.earthquakesignals.com/

In 2008, China's Sichuan province was struck by devastating earthquake, many say it was caused by HAARP,

In 2011, Japan was hit by earthquake that some say was an artificially induced disaster,

China was first country to send rescue team to Japan,

Later, by Japanese request, the meeting between leaders of Korea, Japan and China was held in Fukushima, the publicly stated agenda was "nuclear safety, prevention of disaster and other issues"

After the SCO meeting and state visit to Russia by the Chinese president, over 100 Ukrainian childrens were invited to China, victims of the Chernobyl disaster, the invitation was made during the visit to Ukraine.

Then we have Benjamin Fulford saying "China and Japan can challenge the Anglo-american world order"
http://benjaminfulford.com/theUSfinancial.html

If the people of China and Japan finally get their hands on water powered cars, i would argue it is "hard-earned".

[sunflower]

Thanks, Hao. Politics are complicated, aren't they? There's always more beneath the surface than meets the eye. I am beginning to understand a bit more of what's going on.

Cayman's insights were much appreciated also.

[hao]

Posted by sunflower
Politics are complicated, aren't they? There's always more beneath the surface than meets the eye.

John Baird, the new minister of foreign affairs in the Conservatives’ new majority government, chose China as the designation of his first official visit abroad last week. As one of the most powerful figures in Prime Minister Harper’s inner circle, Baird sent a clear signal to Beijing that China is back at the top of Canada’s foreign policy agenda.

http://www.thestar.com/opinion/edito...partnership-ii

Not surprisingly, this change of diplomatic stance happened to be around the time of Lai Chang Xing's repatriation, It seems the Anglo-american elites are losing grasp on their subjects.

First its Germany, the economic powerhouse of Europe and a NATO member refused to participate in the invasion of Libya.
Days after that announcement, German Chancellor Merkel was going by helicopter.
She then had a narrow escape when her police chopper fell like a stone from the sky just hours after dropping her off.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz1Q1qA2gJk

The country then had a lab created E.coli outbreak,
http://foodfreedom.wordpress.com/201...ic-plague-dna/

and Chinese and German scientists are making joined effort in tackling the problem
http://www.hxen.com/englishvideo/new...07/145616.html

Interestingly, one of the agreements signed between China and Germany during the recent visit by Chinese premier Wen Jiabao was "electric cars".

So, Japan+China, water powered cars, and an earthquake struck then a summit of three East Asian countries was held in Fukushima, then North Korean leader visited China which signaled its own initiation of "the open door policy"
http://www.japanprobe.com/2008/06/15...r-powered-car/

Germany+China, "electric cars", E.coli outbreak in Germany, "Taiwan Plasticizer scandal", both are having "food safety alert", the two are working together to tackle the E.coli menace, the people’s assembly has called the country to reconsider “food safety” as a matter of “national security”.

Now, its Canada

[hao]

Posted by Flash
What would be needed for the human to change and evolve in such a way that their technological discoveries match their behavior/responsible levels.

The duration of a meal for "ETs" is like six hundred years for human, the entire human history is like a film for them.

In episode “epiphany” of Stargate Atlantis, the SAT discovered an artificial ground created by “the ancients” for later generations pursuing “ascension”

http://i51.tinypic.com/95mm1x.jpg

For those who are seeking "higher plane of existence" the moment they realize that the ‘monster’ which has been harassing them is really their own creation because of fear, that they have the power to send it away if they change ‘attitude'.

http://i55.tinypic.com/2hs2kpg.jpg

‘Attitude’ as explained by “The Tao of Crop Circles”
http://www.spiritualgenome.com/page/...p_circles.html

They achieve “ascension” once that burden is gone
http://oi52.tinypic.com/ie14b8.jpg

The circular and snow peaked mountain range is reminiscent of the famed Shambhala, believed to be located somewhere in the Himalayas.
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“The Kalachakra Tantra describes Shambhala as a perpetual bastion of peace and wisdom; it also foretells the decline of the world beyond its borders, where the Buddha’s teachings will gradually be forgotten.

The climax of the kingdom’s history arrives when the outside world has reached its spiritual nadir: then, Shambhala’s last king, Rudra Chakrin, and the kingdom’s vast armies will mount their horses and gallop over the mountains, cleansing the world of blight and ushering in a thousand-year Golden Age.”

Perhaps there is a reason to why the ‘stargate’ in “The Event” is located in Tibet.
http://i56.tinypic.com/mjo41k.jpg
http://i55.tinypic.com/2zz6lpf.jpg

The Return of the Serpents of Wisdom
"We will soon move into a new cycle of time called the 5th World, the World of Love, and the World of Venus. This time period has also been referred to as “the thousand year reign of Christ”"
http://www.moorsgate.com/2008/04/27/...nts-of-wisdom/

David Wilcock is absolutely right when he says “Earth is a laboratory for spiritual growth”.

But what has Shambhala to do with "the returning of the serpents"?

And why Edgar Cayce has the following prediction?

Posted by Edgar Cayce
Edgar Cayce predicted great things for China and its people. On one occasion, Cayce told a group of people that eventually China would become “the cradle of Christianity, as applied in the lives of men.” (3976-29), suggesting that the personal application of spiritual principles would become paramount to the Chinese people. Cayce then went on to caution that it would take a long time to manifest but that it was the country’s destiny: “Yea, it is far off as man counts time, but only a day in the heart of God – for tomorrow China will awake.”

Surely, the Vatican and their Nazi friends would object to such future, would they not?

But the future is already written in the past, the way the film has script. Then, it is not surprising that it was the Anglo-american world order, not China "fell like a house of cards".

Let go of fear and ego, the truth will manifest itself, it will piss people off, but it will set people free

Like the Buddhist notion of "sea of bitterness", endless until one turns around to realize the end(shore) is actually 'right behind', but how can the endless sea of bitterness has end? perhaps, there was no "sea of bitterness".

[Carmody]

Like the Buddhist notion of "sea of bitterness", endless until one turns around to realize the end(shore) is actually 'right behind', but how can the endless sea of bitterness has end? perhaps, there was no "sea of bitterness".


Yes, that is true, there is only perception.

[hao]

Posted by Carmody
there is only perception

Like perception of North Korea, why after decades of "being content as a rogue state", the North Korean leader suddenly visited China which signaled the coming of its own "open door policy" era? Such an era needs the accommodation of a peaceful environment in East Asia. Then, the visit was paid after the summit between South Korean, Japanese and Chinese leaders in Fukushima may indicate that a degree of consensus was reached during that summit, which was enough to prompt the "Rogue state" to make this 180 turn of itself.

Events like North Korea establishing diplomatic relationships with ASEAN countries during the organization's recent summit in Indonesia further indicates the coming of such peaceful environment which will not be exclusive to East Asia.

This brings up Benjamin Fulford, who is on behalf of "the white dragons" saying "China and Japan can challenge the Anglo-american world order and they can bring permanent peace on earth"

And Naoto Kan's sudden decision to visit "the rogue state" next month should be an interesting event to keep an eye for, especially he will be visiting China later this year.

[Carmody]

Posted by hao (here)

Posted by Carmody
there is only perception

Like perception of North Korea, why after decades of "being content as a rogue state", the North Korean leader suddenly visited China which signaled the coming of its own "open door policy" era? Such an era needs the accommodation of a peaceful environment in East Asia. Then, the visit was paid after the summit between South Korean, Japanese and Chinese leaders in Fukushima may indicate that a degree of consensus was reached during that summit, which was enough to prompt the "Rogue state" to make this 180 turn of itself.

Events like North Korea establishing diplomatic relationships with ASEAN countries during the organization's recent summit in Indonesia further indicates the coming of such peaceful environment which will not be exclusive to East Asia.

This brings up Benjamin Fulford, who is on behalf of "the white dragons" saying "China and Japan can challenge the Anglo-american world order and they can bring permanent peace on earth"

And Naoto Kan's sudden decision to visit "the rogue state" next month should be an interesting event to keep an eye for, especially he will be visiting China later this year.

For those of us who may not be understanding whom you speak of, this is Naoto Kan. Prime Minister of Japan.

[cayman]

Posted by fifi (here)
What happens to Cayman? I miss his posts.

hello, fifi, thank you for your concern, I'm doing fine.
A small window opened, light and fresh air came in, suddenly I realize the wonderland is just out there, all I need to do is walk out of the house, so I did. now I'm enjoying the venture in the open wild
Best wishes to all

[hao]

Light and fresh air are good, out of the house is the necessary step for further communication.

Hopi prophecy rock

http://i53.tinypic.com/2i8dkdv.jpg
http://i51.tinypic.com/29zyl8l.jpg

To understand the future one might need to look back into history

the future is already written in the past, the way the film has script

I thank only twice in a world full of ignorance and prejudice, i use the word 'brother' only twice, the last serves to clarify the first, 'brother' as in "space brother".

But i prefer it my way "there is a bond between us and heaven"

[fifi]

Thanks for the reply, cayman. Hope you are safe and sound.

[hao]

Posted by Benjamin Fulford
People who follow the daily news grind, especially the news addicts to saturate themselves with information every day, often are blinded by detail and cannot see the big picture. They are like fish swimming about a pond that has been isolated from the main river. They worry about their daily food but fail to realize the dry season has come and their pond will dry.

Posted by Benjamin Fulford
Their big plan was to grab the oil of the Middle East and Central Asia, consolidate control over the Muslim world and then use Russia, Japan, NATO, Taiwan and India to crush China. The Chinese, of course, were supposed to just shut up and finance all of this. The Chinese wisely (and obviously) said no to all this and started spending their money on anything but the military industrial mass murder complex.

"The white dragon society", the only organization in the world which claims to have stopped a nuclear fallout in Japan and a new madrid fault line disaster in the U.S.A, it is also fighting and ousting a secret and rotten world financial system. but also things like this
"Once the planet stops bleeding the WDF would like to finance things like research into longevity, expansion into the universe and the development and implementation of hitherto suppressed technology. "

David Wilcock says in his new article "1950s Human ETs Prepare Us for Golden Age"

Posted by David Wilcock
In short, human ETs crashed in Roswell and other sites, were treated badly by the US Government, and began secretly working with China to make plans that still have not reached their fruition -- but involve the defeat of the bad guys and the freeing of our world.

This does not mean the ETs endorse China, nor their policies. It does mean that they needed sufficiently powerful allies on the ground to counteract a great negative force at the proper time. Earth humans still have to do most of the work ourselves.

but a spokesperson for "the white dragon society" says this about China

Posted by Benjamin Fulford
The Nobel Peace prize should have gone to the Government of China and not a lone Chinese dissident. The fact of the matter is that China has been a major force for world peace while the governments of the Western nations have been pushing for never ending war.

That sounds very much like an endorsement to me.

So, who are "the white dragons"?

[hao]

May be the first question should be "What really happened at Fukushima?"

http://www.jimstonefreelance.com/fukushima.html

so the subsequent "Fukushima summit", and "white dragons" can be put into perspective

And the Hopi prophecy,

According to David Wilcock's new article "1950s Human ETs Prepare Us for Golden Age", some of the ETs whom are helping human come from Pleiades

Posted by David Wilcock
Interestingly, in Breccia's book there is a table of where the "good guys" and "bad guys" in this epic saga came from. Some of the "good guys" came from the Pleiades.

The Hopi believe they are direct descendents of the Pleiadians, their prophecy foretells the coming of "the day of Purification".

If the Pleiadians are here, it means the Hopi prophecy is in the progress of fulfilling itself.

According to David Wilcock,
"In short, human ETs crashed in Roswell and other sites, were treated badly by the US Government, and began secretly working with China to make plans that still have not reached their fruition -- but involve the defeat of the bad guys and the freeing of our world.

This does not mean the ETs endorse China, nor their policies. It does mean that they needed sufficiently powerful allies on the ground to counteract a great negative force at the proper time. Earth humans still have to do most of the work ourselves."

But in 1947, China was in the middle of a civil war, even after the founding of PRC in 1949, the country was weak. How come the ETs choose China as their Ally instead of Russia who was actually "sufficiently powerful" as compared to China?

I think Wilcock missed something there.

[hao]

Posted by Flash
I have no doubts that we are not ready for very powerfull instruments that could be turn into weapons just by looking at what happend in Oslo and Norway yesterday. There is not doubt that rogues should not have access to technologies that can be destructive and that there is a lot of rogues on earth.

If the prophecies about the coming "Golden age" are true, then i can't help but wonder, how can there be true "golden age" if there are still "Neo-Nazies", radical islamists and other form of extremists and criminals around?

The Hopi prophecy provides a clue

The elder brother [of the shining light] was told to go immediately to the east, toward the rising sun, and upon reaching his destination to start back immediately to look for his younger brother, who remained on Turtle Island [the Continental United States of America].

His mission was to help his younger brother to bring about the Purification Day, at which time all evildoers would be punished or destroyed, after which real peace, brotherhood, and everlasting life would be established. The elder brother would restore all land to his younger brother, from whom the Evil one among the white men had taken it. The elder brother [of the shining light] also would come to look for the Tiponi tablets and fulfill the mission given him by the Great Spirit.

The younger brother was instructed to travel throughout the land and mark his footsteps as he went about. Both brothers were told that a great white star would appear in the sky; when that happened, all people would know that the elder brother had reached his destination. Thereupon all people were to settle wherever they happened to be at that time, there to remain until the elder brother returned.

[hao]

The 2009 US-Russian satellite collision was fishy, i have long suspected it was caused by secret weapon test by the US.

http://en.rian.ru/russia/20090303/120392490.html
http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2...nt_7471645.htm

i think there is a high-tech 'cold war' going on,

Coincidentally, China had the anti-satellite missile test on January 11th 2007, which was much criticized by the ‘international community’.

The county then was hit by a HAARP attack in 2008 which caused the devastating Sichuan earthquake, but the hardest hit Wenchuan county does not appear (on the surface) to be a strategic important site.

I notice an article from The Epoch Times (mouthpiece of the CIA backed Falun gong) says the quake was caused by ‘Nuclear Explosion’
http://en.epochtimes.com/news/8-6-3/71353.html

Then, in 2010 and 2011, on exactly the same day as the 2007 anti-satellite test, i.e. January 11th, China unveiled its mid-course interceptor and the J-20 fighter jet, the plane made its official flight on the day of Robert Gates visit to China.
http://himg2.huanqiu.com/attachment2...4de6a28d7c.jpg

Gates looked rather “tense”. Late in 2010, three American carrier groups were gathered around China, it was an unprecedented hostile move by the US during peace times, but there was a 180 degree turn as Gates visited China in January and was followed by Chinese president’s state visit to America where he was welcomed by president Obama.

The two militaries then had unprecedented exchange visits, Chinese general Chen bing de’s tour of the US was followed by the Chairman of JCS Mike Mullen’s visit to China, during which he was allowed to take a tour of the Second Artillery Corps (China's strategic missile forces) and the advanced Yuan class submarine.
http://himg2.huanqiu.com/attachment2...6f2881a7ce.jpg

And, from the late months of 2010 until the early months of 2011, there were continuous appearance of UFOs over ICBMs site in the US, which had an unprecedented shutdown on October 23,
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/...11+PRN20110620
Then, in early November, there was the “Los Angeles contrail”, which was rumored to be fired by Chinese submarine

It seems the Anglo-american elites are having a covert war with China and Russia.

And i would say there are “ETs” involved in this conflict,

I study Chinese legends and archeology, as well as prophecies, i have a very good idea to whom those “ETs” are.

In short, they are the “guardians” of this planet, which are part of much more powerful system. They have nuke sites checked in order to prevent a nuclear holocaust.

The reason they have massively intervened last year was most likely because the elites were about to pull their “depopulation plan” as warned by Benjamin Fulford.

The only way for humanity is peace and co-operation, there is no other way out.

[hao]

Posted by fifi (here)
What happens to Cayman? I miss his posts.

The truth can stand the test of time and opposition.

Posted by cayman
I welcome everyone to post any question about my report. Discuss and debate is the best way to finding out the truth.

Posted by cayman
If there are anyone else in the forum come from China, please join me!

Posted by cayman
Therefore, I welcome anyone in the forum who come from China to discuss or even argue with me. as a matter of fact, I urge that!
After all, one mouth of a story is always thin.

Except, the one fulfilling such promises was not the one who wrapped them in beautiful words.

Posted by Hao
One will have access to all of them if one find the balance of the Tao, either the way, in the end its still the way of the Tao.

In the end, only the halt of imbalance is achieved, but not beyond that. So many things shall not be revealed.

Posted by Hopi prophecy
It is only materialistic people who seek to make shelters. Those who are at peace in their hearts already are in the great shelter of life. There is no shelter for evil. Those who take no part in the making of world division by ideology are ready to resume life in another world, be they Black, White, Red, or Yellow race. They are all one, brothers.

All i ever did here was trying to purge the ignorance and prejudice that has made the world more divided, and the evil forces more powerful. For that deeds i have been rewarded by heaven in unexpected ways. But my future is already secured before i stumbled upon this thread.

Conquering fear and ego was never a problem for me, for me it is about understand the meaning of life and by analysing the experiences in this physical world to see through the 'matrix', and to me there is no such thing as 'good' or 'bad', there is only realization which is the essence of this life's experience, eventually i shall be with others as i belong with them in the first place.

As for those promoting fear and hatred which are rooted in ignorance and prejudice, i only hope they understand what "2012" is really about, soon enough.

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...off-Faulkner--

[hao]

Who is Liu Xiao Bo? The 2010 Nobel Peace Prize winner, and

Posted by Domenico Losurdo
Quite some time has elapsed since the Nobel Peace Prize was awarded to Liu Xiabobo, but the western media have yet to inform us about the ideals that he’s supposed to stand for. The reason is that Nobel Prize was given to someone who longs for colonization and for whom the only salvation is the obliteration of his own culture through western military intervention.
In an 1988 interview, Liu Xiabobo declared that China needed to be subjected to 300 years of colonial domination to become a decent country ... of a western cut, needless to say. In 2007, Liu Xiabobo reaffirmed his thesis and pronounced himself in favor of a radical and complete privatization of the Chinese economy.
I am merely repeating the information contained in an article by Barry Sautman and Yan Hairong published in the South China Morning Post (Hong Kong) [1], which can hardly be considered favorable to Beijing. On the contrary, the same article lambasted the Chinese government for having punished an opinion, no matter how "abject", with a jail sentence instead of resorting to criticism.
As for me, I would like to make a few observations. Western history manuals teach us that the Opium Wars ushered in the darkest period in the history of China: as upheld by eminent scholars, one of the world’s most ancient civilizations was literally "crucified". Towards the end of the XIX century, massive death from starvation became a daily and commonplace occurrence. However, in Liu Xiabobo’s opinion, that colonial period was not long enough. It should have lasted three times longer!
The least that can be said is that we are dealing here with a sort of "denial". The Western world does not hesitate to criminalize "deniers" in respect of the infamy committed against the Jewish people, yet it honors with the Nobel Peace prize a "denier" of the infamy suffered by the Chinese people under colonialism! Unfortunately, the position adopted by the political left is not much different. This same left, which was careful not to condemn the detention of David Irving and other representatives of that same line of thought who are still incarcerated, is now singing praises in favor of Liu Xiabobo.
But the Nobel laureate didn’t simply limit himself to expressing his opinions, regardless of how "abject" they might be, as even the South China Morning Post has acknowledged. After having exalted, in 1988, three centuries of colonial domination in China, the next year he flew (on his own initiative?) from the US back to China to participate in the Tiananmen Square rebellion in order to fulfill his dream [2].
Liu Xiabobo is still actively committed to that dream, as revealed in a 2006 interview with a Swedish reporter in which he extols the US war against Iraq as the means for exporting democracy. Thus, we are faced with a public figure who openly calls for the colonial domination of his own country and also, indirectly, a war of aggression.
His dream has brought him both a sentence behind Chinese prison bars and the "Nobel Peace prize".

http://www.voltairenet.org/Who-is-Liu-Xiabobo

Many of the so called "pro-democracy Chinese" are really "pro-Western extremists" in the ideological sense, they basically curse anyone, Chinese or not, who dares to say NO to Western powers, they are also ignorant in many fields, that's why people don't really see them picking on BRICS, even though according to them one of its key member is simply "evil", or explaining to people why Kofi Annan used to speak highly of China's contributions, the same man who dared to criticize the US-led Iraq war as illegal, or Taiwanese scholar Li Ao's (the famous 'liberal' and defiant guy who was jailed by the nationalist government of Taiwan) comparison of today's China with the golden age of Tang dynasty, even the bitter former enemy, the kuomintang are recognizing mainland's progress and they are praising such "evil" regime. Let alone of the examination of the opinions of western scholars like Noam Chomsky, Webster Tarpley, William Engdahl, Micheal Chudodovsky, etc

How many of these "brave souls" turned out on the streets to start a "jasmine revolution" in China early this year? Their online calls received little support from the population. Even those independent Chinese journalists who are sympathetic towards them find that "they lack strength and skills".

But i would say it’s partly due to there own flawed characters. I often see these so called "pro-democracy" folks swearing and using foul languages on those who disagree with them, but another more influential factor is the backlash produced by the massive demonization of China by the Western MSM's relentless lies in 2008, it really angered the Chinese populace. The West too, caught by surprise as massive Chinese demonstrations unleashed in Western cities. As if it was the fear of the old "boxer rebellion" making temporary resurgence, the Western Medias were headlining "beware of the new anti-West sentiment of the Chinese nationalism", and Beijing was compared to the Berlin Olympics of Nazi Germany, clearly the West was alarmed by the surge of Chinese nationalism, despite it was fueled by the West's own "anti-China" hysteria.

While such wound was still fresh, in 2009, the Western Medias again offended the Chinese populace by their biased and untruthful reports of urumqi riot, where the West excused the Uighur rioters while ignoring the plight of many innocent Chinese. Clearly, the Westerners do not have the Chinese people's best interests despite they often appear vocal and judgmental towards China, on the contrary, the West have sinister intent, that's what many Chinese are beginning to realize.

There are countless problems in China, but the capitalization of such downside by the "pro-democracy" groups online or "twitter youth" (as William Engdahl would call them) proved unsuccessful, they then say "its because the time hasn't come", or "the control is successful", or "the Chinese people are still too much brainwashed by the CCP". But they failed to see the impact of West's own misdeed. And these "pro-democracy" groups forget that the Chinese are very nationalistic people, the slogan used to purge China of Mongol rule was used again in the overthrowing of the Manchu, the same men who fought Western colonialists in the "Boxer rebellion", and their descendants took arms again in the fight against the Japanese invaders. While today's China is militarily strong enough to defend herself, the warmongering nature of NATO and its atrocities are not gone unnoticed by the Chinese populace who do not forget so easily the plight brought upon by the Opium Wars. Their Western supporters too, seem to have forgotten that, and they were surprised by the defiance demonstrated by overseas young Chinese on their streets.

But for those "pro-democracy" Chinese, they are not able to think out of their box/silo, the Art of War says, to achieve victory one has to know oneself and know one's enemy, the "pro-democracy" groups are too assertive of themselves as if whatever they say is right, while the only thing they are good at when facing their "enemy"(i.e. The Chinese government) is demonization (thus the 2008 HAARP attack of China is given such absurd explanations as nuclear explosion or the weight of the Three Gorges Dam, but these "pro-democracy" folks believe such, just like they believe the first Chinese EVA was faked, they will believe anything as long as its defaming the Chinese government) but propaganda alone wont help, and it applies either ways.

Let's ask these people a question, if the Communists were such an evil force, how did they succeed in taking control of this huge country in the first place?

The "commie bandits" got lucky, right? hmm, If they can't give a proper answer to this scholarly question, by making an objective analysis and comparison between the two competing political entities of China at the time, i.e. the economic policies of the Kuomintang and the Communists. But i will give these folks a hint, try starting with the founding father of the modern Chinese republic, Dr Sun Yat-sen. Oh wait, isn't Dr Sun Yat-sen the person who tried to free China from Western colonialism but at the same time tried to adopt "democracy"? But Dr Sun Yat-sen should be viewed as "evil" too, since he does not agree with Mr. Liu Xiao Bo's view of "China should be subjugated by the West, for another 300 years".

Then, i wish the same "luck" to the "Jasmine revolution" as dreamed by the "pro-democracy" Chinese, they'll need it.

As the independent journalists put it, "they lack strength and skills".

BTW, that question only touches on the 'view China as a modern nation-state' level,

Then there is the level of view China as 'an old and continuous civilization', and as the 'only surviving and influential culture of the serpents'

Before these "twitter youth" try to shove "democracy" to the Chinese populace, they need to improve themselves on all these three levels first, otherwise they will only be remembered as CIA tools in future history books after the collapse of this evil system which controls the world.

And time is running out as 2012 the year of the returning serpents is getting close, better collapse China by starting this "jasmine revolution" for your 'invisible' New (or is it going to be Old?) world order masters. You know, they almost "plead" for this move by the Chinese people, as it's evident in Kerry Cassidy's interview from my last post, as if they are running out of options besides "jasmine revolution".

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Well said !!

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Posted by mariposafe (here)
Well said !!

Guess what these "pro-democracy" folks from China are saying about NATO's aggression of Libya and the recent "capture of Tripoli by the 'rebels'"? They say its "a victory for democracy".

The same they would call the 1 million death US-led Iraq war a "successful example of exporting democracy by the US and its western allies".

But the problem with this kind of "definition" of the "Libya issue" is you have Mr Abdel Hakim al-Hasadi, a notorious Al-Qaeda murderer whose hands are stained with American bloods is now (with the acknowledgement of America) the de-facto military governor in Tripoli.

Let's apply that "Bush doctrine" here, "if you support a terrorist then you are a terrorist", by that definition, the fact that these ""pro-democracy" Chinese are supporting a war, in which NATO hire Al-Qaeda mercenaries to terrorize Libyan civilians, renders them "terrorists" too. But i guess Mr Liu xiao bo can excuse himself by saying "oh, i didn't know America created Al-Qaeda".

Hence, those who are cheerleading NATO's war in Libya is really cheerleading "good inside job on 911 America", and the nearly 3000 death is really "a victory for democracy".