Spirituality vs Religion

[truthseekerdan]

Most religions preach love, and yet, their purpose is to confuse and misinform people for two reasons: money and the power of manipulating people. Their tool is frequently fear, which they induce to get control. For example, the Catholic Church removed reincarnation from the Bible and included Satan, so they could murder and torture people in the name of God and love, apparently 'fighting' Satan. Most wars are a direct consequence of religious 'brainwashing'.

All religions, cults, sects etc. are 'truly deceiving'. They have been created after great men (Jesus, Krishna, Buddha, etc.) died, by people with only 2 things in mind: 'money and power'. Religions are a 'true curse' on Earth, because they are the source of spiritual misinformation. They constipate people with fear, propaganda and rituals to the point that people stop thinking and follow the flock.

When you seek true love you do not go to a prostitute. When you truly seek God, you do not go to an institution that makes business by claiming to represent God. Do you think that God needs a proxy?
The most beautiful temple of man is within and has always been. To reach it you should meditate, and then concentrate (pray), which is different, although the two are usually confused by teachers. We should grow up, drop ridiculous rituals and stop following the flock, lead by those who take advantage of us.

The best physicists on Earth agree that everything material is just vibration, and it is actually temporary. The real stuff is our consciousness. People need a lot of effort to comprehend the Reality of the Universe. The evidence is overwhelming. We have eyes - but do we see?
There is no problem with duality: we are really eternal light beings undergoing lessons in physical bodies. The sole purpose of our physical existence is spiritual development. Anything that happens around us is a part of the lesson.

Our learning tool is our free will. We should use it to make a continuous series of choices in our life and watch their consequences. The aim is to understand the effects of our choices. If we mess up the lesson (don't learn) then we have to repeat the lesson in the next lifetime. If we are absolutely stubborn and do not want to learn, we eventually get destroyed and re-cycled as everything in nature.

"The Kingdom of God is within you" as it says in the Bible, which once upon a time contained lots of other good information. Unfortunately, many essential things were removed by priests who feared that people might become enlightened, fully independent and impossible to brainwash and control. Just imagine what would happen if people discovered that God doesn't need a proxy...

[Kra]

I entirely agree with what you said about religions. Religion has nothing to do with spirituality.

[greybeard]

In essence
Religion divides Spirituality unites.

Chris

[Elandiel BernElve]

There is a lot of truth in what you say. But I wouldn't put it in a black vs white contrast kind of way.

Religion is a gray area.. it offers just enough spirituality to feel that there's something more and then constrains your curiousity by moral and religious teachings making you a follower instead of a contributor to advancement and enlightment in spirituality.

Look at christianity for example, most christians are way lost in their own dogma's and self written interpretations of history and the world, they fail to accept ANYthing is possible. They fail to see God (whatever he or that might be for any of you) as an infinite powerful source of life ans conscious. They actually don't give God (I'll call it just God for now) enough credit. Constantly measuring him down to humanlike behaviour or reason. If there's truly one allmighty God of all then why would he just focus on this tiny planet and especcially some Jews in Israel a few thousand years ago..
Indeed what a misinformation... and that keeps going on and on

YET, don't underestimate the cultural and historical influence it had and NEEDED to have to become who we are.
The renaissance, the enlightment, humanism.. all these things are a reaction on a historical series of (religious) events that we can call the development of our (western) civilization.
Of course it saddens me that we as a civilization always have to fall down (inquisition for example) before we get higher up the echelon of civilized behaviour (humanism for example).
I wish we could grow without falling..
Yes religion is misinformation, yes religion is the source of lots of dead, corruption, stagnation, yes religion is a cause of war and spiritual decay..

a religion is an institute, an institute ruled by man is doomed to corruption

yet.. don't blame the believers.. for example christians believe in love and forgiveness, a serene ideal it's their institute that has blinded them and therefore they'll never reach their potential.

So Lightwarriors, don't focus on bashing religion but plant your seeds of consciousness, break their chains and do as Jesus, open their eyes and make them SEE again

[Anchor]

Spirituality is a quality that can be described and quantified (to some extent, this depends on belief systems), whereas Religion is more about process.

Sadly many of Religions processes are variously related to division, inculcation of beliefs, fear, guilt, freewill violation and siphoning money from the pockets of the base tiers of their flock's.

John..

[Steven]

I agree with many things said here. I see religion and spirituality as two distinct concepts.

The word religion comes from 'religare' or 'to bind' 'to bow'. In reference to the worship of humans to a 'god' or 'gods'. Involving ritual and devotion to certain 'figure' of devotion to the 'god' or 'gods'. Often containing moral code and rules to conduct the humain life.

While spirituality is a direct reference to the spirit or soul that inhabit the body or 'overlap' it. Spirit means 'breath', the spark of life that animates the visibile body and the same spark of life that survive 'death'. Spirit or consciousness that think and feel, just like the Great spirit. Spirituality is all that involves our connection to the Source.

We do not need religion and it will most certainly vanished. Religion is a tool. While spirituality will always exist...

Namaste, Steven

[RedeZra]

religion is together we are in God

spirituality is alone I am in God


what is spirituality for the soul is religion for the community

not observing moral codes is neither religion nor spirituality but rebellion


religion means to bind mankind back to God

spirituality means to bind oneself to God


not observing God is neither religion nor spirituality but rebellion


the Great spirit is God

[Anchor]

Redezra, I think I agree with the intent that you have behind the meaning

I am quite happy to share spirituality within like minded groups, but that is not ever going to be religion.

I find the word, ideas and association of religion is so tainted by the systematic abuse of freewill that I find the idea of it repulsive and reject it completely.

John..

[RedeZra]

Posted by John (here)
I am quite happy to share spirituality within like minded groups, but that is not ever going to be religion.

hi John

that's okay

spirituality is a step to spirit as is religion


both fields are full of snares

so extreme discernment is never wrong

[Lost Soul]

Spirituality > Religion.

[Steven]

Never to be forgotten that spirituality never committed that much wars and control over humanity and that is the spiritual part of any religion that realized the best things in all of them. Religion can not exist without spirituality, but spirituality does not need religion to exist. Religion will pass, spirituality is eternal...

Namaste, Steven

[truthseekerdan]

God The Great Spirit unites in Love and from within, but religion divides; God does not need religion...

Namaste,

Dan

[RedeZra]

give it time

and a spiritual seed turns into a religious branch

[Elandiel BernElve]

@ RedeZra,

Religion (from Latin religio, "reverence for the gods", "piety", possibly related to religare, "to bind"[1]) is the belief in and worship of a god or gods, or more in general a set of beliefs explaining the existence of and giving meaning to the universe, usually involving devotional and ritual observances, and often containing a moral code governing the conduct of human affairs.

vs

Spirituality is the acknowlegdement of us being spiritual in essence and having limitless potential while seeing and experiencing the world and all that is living and conscious as a whole.
That is not a belief, not a religion, it's a state of being and concsiousness.

When we as a human civilization ascend to the point we all know and acknowledge we are spiritual we'll feel the universal laws and ethics from within our hearts.
A religion to state those, would be like a voice in your car constantly saying that you're driving while you're driving.. in other words useless

[greybeard]

Spirituality is God imminent, accessible, the realm of the Mystic.
Religion is to do with God transcendent --- out there far removed, in heaven, just waiting for judgment day.. Religion has to do with the after life.
Spirituality the eternal Now.
There are crossover points for the core of religion comes from the mystic.
Chris

[truthseekerdan]

Great description Elandiel, thank you for your participation.

Great quote below from a book, that you and/or others might be already familiar with.

The Spirit - the Superior Intelligence decided to create the worlds and He commanded to four superior forces...

It’s extremely difficult for the human mind, even when highly developed, to comprehend such a thing. In fact, in a sense, it is impossible. On the other hand, your Astral Spirit assimilates it when it is freed from your physical body.

In the beginning there was nothing except darkness and a spirit - THE Spirit.

The Spirit was, and is, infinitely powerful - powerful beyond the comprehension of any human mind. The Spirit is so powerful that it was able, by the action of its will alone, to trigger an atomic explosion with chain reactions of unimaginable force. In fact, the Spirit imagined the worlds - He imagined how to create them - from the most enormous to the most minuscule. He imagined the atoms. When He imagined them He created, in His imagination, all that moved and will move: all that lived and will live; all that is motionless, or seems to be - every single thing.

But it existed only in his imagination. All was still in darkness. Once He had an overall view of what He wanted to create, He was able, by his exceptional spiritual force, to create, instantaneously, the four forces of the Universe.

With these, He directed the first and the most gigantic atomic explosion of all time - what certain people on Earth call ‘The Big Bang’. The Spirit was at its centre and induced it. Darkness was gone and the Universe was creating itself according to the will of the Spirit.

The Spirit was thus, is still, and always will be, at the centre of the Universe for He is the Master and Creator of it...

Excerpt from Thiaooba Prophecy by Michel Desmarquet


Read the book online here or as an eBook here

[RedeZra]

Posted by Elandiel BernElve (here)
When we as a human civilization ascend to the point we all know and acknowledge we are spiritual we'll feel the universal laws and ethics from within our hearts.

yes if we all were spiritual

there would be no need for religion

as it is

this is not so

not even close

so religion plays the part

to convert the rebels

[Steven]

We are not human beings who have spiritual experiences, but spiritual beings who live a human experience. We are spiritual, all of us, in essence. That is why religions have arose in our manifested reality. But as all human affairs, have been corrupted over the years to control the mass by a small hidden Elite who wants us to recognize their god as ours. A fallen creature with great power. Unfortunately, many powerful spreadout religions are simply participating in redirecting our spirit's focus from the Source of all that is, to this god. Nevertheless, their is also powerful spiritual beings in all religions who maintain a constant blessings in them. Religions aren't completely corrupted, and that is why their is much hope including in this field.

Namaste, Steven

[RedeZra]

Posted by Steven (here)
But as all human affairs, have been corrupted over the years to control the mass by a small hidden Elite who wants us to recognize their god as ours.

if there were no sinister spiritual forces around

mankind would naturally seek balance beauty and harmony

[truthseekerdan]

Did anyone read the book in post # 16? Let me know your opinions, please.

"A human being is a part of the whole called by us universe, a part limited in time and space. He experiences himself, his thoughts and feeling as something separated from the rest, a kind of optical delusion of his consciousness. This delusion is a kind of prison for us, restricting us to our personal desires and to affection for a few persons nearest to us. Our task must be to free ourselves from this prison by widening our circle of compassion to embrace all living creatures and the whole of nature in its beauty."

- Albert Einstein