Comet Elenin, C/2010 X1

[Rocky_Shorz]

I love this quote by a NASA Scientist...

By comparison, my subcompact automobile exerts a greater influence on the ocean's tides than comet Elenin ever will."

NASA info link

[araucaria]

sorry folks, my bs-meter just went into overdrive. What's a self-styled Hubble scientist doing quoting from Revelation?
The Bible is part of the problem, not the solution.
i have red sand in my backyard; it has no time for my fridge magnets, must have just blown over from the Sahara, as usual.

[Maia Gabrial]

Last night I listened to Hoagland on Red Ice Radio talking about Elenin being a good thing heading our way. Even Alex Collier said something similar. Now with this interview, it makes me wonder which version is true? I guess we'll have to wait and see....Hopefully, it'll be the good version....
What he said scientifically made sense, but it still sounded like many will die and it won't have been TPTB who did it. Nowhere on the planet will be safe. The ones underground won't really be safe, will they? I mean, the reptilians will have their Ready-To-Eat locked up those pens....
This interview was very thought provoking, The One. Thanks. I'll be thinking about it for awhile....

[kersley]

If what this guy say's is true, then we're all f**k. If i take this onboard, then i should live this day as if it were my last. I should stop building my kitchen extension and build a bunker.
I'm not ready for my world to be turned upside down, i just found peace within for such a long time. i'm not about to give up now..
The ET's will help surely? deep deep within i know this can't happen..

[Hervé]

Posted by daledo (here)
https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&p...hl=en_US&pli=1

117 page PDF on Nibiru. I don't know if it has been posted before or if the info is accurate but someone spent alot of time making it.

Posted by corson (here)

Posted by daledo (here)
https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&p...hl=en_US&pli=1

117 page PDF on Nibiru. I don't know if it has been posted before or if the info is accurate but someone spent alot of time making it.

very detailed documentation. a lot of reading to do. thanks daledo.
regards, corson

This paper is already discussed in depth starting here: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post271577

[crosby]

Edward Alexander thank you so much for the information regarding this mans' name. i have just not been able to get my mind around this. i just had the feeling that there was more to it. and you have discovered it. i so appreciate that. a thousand thank yous to you. also, i was wondering about those dates as well. it appears that you have done some fantastic groundwork. i am with you 100% on this.

and welcome to avalon.
warmest regards, corson

[Hervé]

Same clown as in this one:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=in34N4gq19o

What I find interesting is that the experiment in population steering started in the 50s.


Didn't beat the experiment of the "War of the Worlds" radio broadcast though...

I guess that , when about everyone will respond by a "Yeah, yeah, sure..." then the real disclosure will come out.

[Chuck]

Hello daledo,

I have made a comment here already in regards to this silly paper. I am surprised to see how much momentum it has received.

My friend from Australia, has much more patience than me to spend an enormous amount of energy debunking this paper. He is a saint! Thank you Ian!

As he describes, the so called “Nibiru” image from which all the measurements are taken from is actually an image of CW Leonis! (not of Nibiru). He also explains the NON tilting of Saturn images as being a function of the viewing software.

Take a few minutes to read his blog including the links.

http://astroblogger.blogspot.com/sea.../Pseudoscience

[Edward Alexander]

Glad I could put some lights on things and explain the connection between several events as I personally find to be most plausible and can only believe must be the truth behind it all.

My observations do make a lot of sense to my and makes a very logical explanation for everything mentioned here and why various things were put into action such as the staged 911 attack. I always knew it was a sacrificial ritual but didnt completely understand at what end it was intended but that became very clear when I found out these specific dates and information about Comet Elenin.

It also makes sense to me that as far back in time as the Mayans this comet was known and their calendar designed to reflect it considering the perfect timing for the approach of the comet and the argued new "end date" of the Mayan calendar.

Personally I think this must have been knowledge for rather long time, and that the 911 event was preplanned and in prepartion for decades before it was executed, due to other evidence that connects to it that I did not mention such as "The Dollar Bill Prophecy" explained by Aleister Crowley, who himself was a great occultist and member of secret orders as well as involved with the governments and elite, where many people are still today member of his order OTO. The "Dollar Bill Prophecy" shows the whole 911 fall of the towers in sequence when folded in a rather simple but specific way, the same for each of the different dollar bills , starting with showing the tower illustrated as standing on the smaller dollar bills and starting to crumble and fall apart on the next ones until it is all a pile of rubble with smoke coming up on the last one. This makes it clear that this was planned at least before the current design of the dollar bill was created, and that Crowley must have been involved with this occult planning, which also obviously includes fragments of the governments.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=QGxdyyTZvUk

I originally wrote about the dollar bill prophecy and how it functions as a magickal talisman half a decade ago, its still up here (though lacking the images but they're the same as in above video):
http://www.conspiracycafe.net/forum/...-dollar-bills/

So there is a confirmed occult connection with the 911 event proving it was planned and prepared for at least many decades, showing that it was an occult ritual that was the main purpose of 911, and its purpose had to do with the comet Elenin and in turn the comet Elenin also seem to be part of what the Mayan calendar is based upon. The other facts I already mentioned in the original post only strengthen this further and basically verifies that this must be the way things were done and planned.

As a sidenote, regarding the Mayan Calendar, it was clearly used to adjust our modern calendar to by the Vatican shortly after Colombus and his men had been over in South America & Mexico. The date of the older Calendar, the Julian one, were adjusted so that a more symbolical and numerologically important date would fit the Mayan calendars end date, resulting in the modern Gregorian calendar. Colombus was on a mission for a specific purpose and did not stumble over Americas by "mistake" but they already knew about Americas and were heading there to carry out some of their plans and agendas which already back then was clearly of an occult nature. Contact between Americas and rest of the world have been ongoing for thousands of years , having had trade routs and other connections between each other.

[Maia Gabrial]

Well, kersley,
Only time will tell us which version will happen, right? We, who know about all this, should prepare as best as we can. Share the word with those who'll at least listen.....Not panick even though many will....
It just dawned on me that this may be a spiritual test and then ascension will happen.

[Loveisall21]

Well if everything this guy says is correct because "these guys" that tell him this stuff really know what's up then here is what I'm going to do. I'm not going to build a lead helmet and I'm not going to get in my bunker and of course I don't have an underground bunker. Whatever will be will be. I am an eternal indestructable spirit, so are you. Infinite incomprehesible love permeates and underlies all that is. Whatever may happen we will all still be here, maybe not in the same form and maybe not in the same place but we will be and it's all ok. This is a very great drama, a crazy dream that maybe is about to get more intense.

A good heart is all you need, it's your greatest protection. I can't imagine lead helmets are that attractive anyway. Not to mention a strain on your neck.

[cloud9]

I couldn't agree more and I have been reading about Elenin for a while, this simply doesn't make any sense.
All those points you are pointing out are just too much of a coincidence, Richard Hoagland have talked about these coincidences and dates but he opted for a more oustanding explanation about the whole thing which I don't believe.

My point of view about this comet is that nothing will happen but meanwhile we are being distracted big way and by we I mean people interested in alternative media and all the subjects we talk about. Mainstream media is not touching the subject first because it's not needed and second because as nothing will happen what would they say?

This has been a great distraction, nothing else. In my opinion it could be some kind of "experiment" to see how well we behave, how much we believe, how much we investigate, confirm or deny and even if we are able to follow clues and discover the truth, it's a game and a test and I think we are failing miserably and totally... after this, they can put anything in front of us and we will believe it because they now know how to do it, they have refined even more all skills necessary to dupe even the most "awaken" ones...

[Lifebringer]

Its orbit is 26,000 years.

[thunder24]

I remember seeing hale-bopp comet in, I think it was 1997. It was truly amazing for me. I am aware of project bluebeam, and I'm sure the ones in charge have refined their skills, but as a friend of mine says "we will know it when we see it"

The alignments with other planets, our sun, and earth cooresponding to certain dates with earthquakes I found interesting. They may have been debunked, not sure...but with the CMEs we've been having from the sun makes me wonder if there isn't an object or objects out there playing with the energy of it.

Posted by cloud9 (here)
My point of view about this comet is that nothing will happen but meanwhile we are being distracted big way and by we I mean people interested in alternative media and all the subjects we talk about. Mainstream media is not touching the subject first because it's not needed and second because as nothing will happen what would they say?

This has been a great distraction, nothing else. In my opinion it could be some kind of "experiment" to see how well we behave, how much we believe, how much we investigate, confirm or deny and even if we are able to follow clues and discover the truth, it's a game and a test and I think we are failing miserably and totally... after this, they can put anything in front of us and we will believe it because they now know how to do it, they have refined even more all skills necessary to dupe even the most "awaken" ones...

I think there has been a plan/agenda through astrology and "occult" associations and computations from long ago, then again, if its energy or "magic" that is being used/applied many things will look very similar through out history ...ie phalic symbols.

Many times I think they use events/situations to their advantage.
Could our minds thinking apon Elenin be drawing the thing in? possibly. I think Good possibility
Was elenin going to be coming anyways wether we were captain Cave-man or Billionaire Oprah? possiblily. I think thats a good possiblity too.
Could they pull out project blue beam on us around those dates to shift consciousness in the direction they wanted consciousness on those dates? possibily. I think Good possiblity.


there are and always have been things in our sky, the chartings and maps of stars is how old now? That means through out, things would have been seen in the sky ...I ask who gave man knowledge of self?


I have watched Jordan Maxwell talk about the Dawn of a New Day...who will control the energy in the New Day? Could this be the plan, the whole time , all the events with numbers and codes and synchronicities out the wazoo!? Why would they fight for this moment, this one point in time... why would Mr. Maxwell take the time to talk about this? Energy

"where thoughts go, energy flows"
What is different about the energy now in our time?

peace

[sandy]

Posted by thunder24 (here)
I remember seeing hale-bopp comet in, I think it was 1997. It was truly amazing for me. I am aware of project bluebeam, and I'm sure the ones in charge have refined their skills, but as a friend of mine says "we will know it when we see it"

The alignments with other planets, our sun, and earth cooresponding to certain dates with earthquakes I found interesting. They may have been debunked, not sure...but with the CMEs we've been having from the sun makes me wonder if there isn't an object or objects out there playing with the energy of it.

Posted by cloud9 (here)
My point of view about this comet is that nothing will happen but meanwhile we are being distracted big way and by we I mean people interested in alternative media and all the subjects we talk about. Mainstream media is not touching the subject first because it's not needed and second because as nothing will happen what would they say?

This has been a great distraction, nothing else. In my opinion it could be some kind of "experiment" to see how well we behave, how much we believe, how much we investigate, confirm or deny and even if we are able to follow clues and discover the truth, it's a game and a test and I think we are failing miserably and totally... after this, they can put anything in front of us and we will believe it because they now know how to do it, they have refined even more all skills necessary to dupe even the most "awaken" ones...

I think there has been a plan/agenda through astrology and "occult" associations and computations from long ago, then again, if its energy or "magic" that is being used/applied many things will look very similar through out history ...ie phalic symbols.

Many times I think they use events/situations to their advantage. Could our minds thinking apon Elenin be drawing the thing in? possibly. I think Good possibility
was elenin going to be coming anyways wether we were captain Cave-man or Billionaire Oprah? possiblily. I think thats a good possiblity too.
Could they pull out project blue beam on us around those dates to shift consciousness in the direction they wanted consciousness on those dates? possibily. I think Good possiblity.


there are and always have been things in our sky, the chartings and maps of stars is how old now? That means through out, things would have been seen in the sky ...I ask who gave man knowledge of self?


I have watched Jordan Maxwell talk about the Dawn of a New Day...who will control the energy in the New Day? Could this be the plan, the whole time , all the events with numbers and codes and synchronicities out the wazoo!? Why would they fight for this moment, this one point in time... why would Mr. Maxwell take the time to talk about this? Energy

"where thoughts go, energy flows"
What is different about the energy now in our time?

peace

Boy!! much to ponder and discern here thunder24, Thanks

[Hervé]

Posted by Edward Alexander (here)
[...]
It also makes sense to me that as far back in time as the Mayans this comet was known and their calendar designed to reflect it considering the perfect timing for the approach of the comet and the argued new "end date" of the Mayan calendar.
[...]

Posted by Lifebringer (here)
Its orbit is 26,000 years.

One major squeak: Elenin's period is 1 million years...

[Edward Alexander]

Interesting number, if correct, as it fits perfectly in as the explanation to the following phenomena:

The Earth's axis completes one full cycle of precession approximately every 26,000 years. At the same time the elliptical orbit rotates more slowly. The combined effect of the two precessions leads to a 21,000-year period between the seasons and the orbit.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milankovitch_cycles

This in turn gives some new interesting information as well as questions, such as how did the Mayans back then even manage to gain this understanding and base their calendar on the orbit of a comet taking 26 000 years to get through its orbit? Either they must have observed it from generation to generation at least the previous 26 000 years since last time it had completed a full orbit so they would know by the next time how long it would take, or they were able to observe it even when it was not close enough to be seen from Earth in such a way that they could determine this. I personally feel they used spiritual techniques for such observations and astronomical research, by means of astral projection and similar, remote viewing etc.

At the same time this clearly shows the cause behind regular and cyclic earth changes and pole shifts etc as the Earth obviously must be affected to a fairly large degree every 26000 years when the comet Elenin is close.

In turn this effect from comet Elenin also explains other things that happened 26 000 years ago last time it was close to Earth such as:

The extinction of many animals including the Woolly Mammoth, the Saber Tooth Tiger, the Giant Tree Sloth and many other species happened at about this time. Interestingly, according to anthropologists, the emergence of Cro-Magnon Man, appears to have occurred about 26,000 years ago, the last time we passed through Aquarius.

http://www.jayweidner.com/time.html


Thus the connections between Elenin and other events just gets deeper and more confirmed, and now several independent events take place at different times in history yet all connected to Elenin, such as the Mayan calendar and its full cycle and endtime is based upon Elenin, Elenin has caused major earth changes and distinction and emerging of different animals last time 2600 years ago, governments / world leaders / the elite has known about this for very long time and made several preparations accordingly such as adjusting the modern calendar to fit the events of the mayan calendar more appropriately when it comes to symbolism & numerology and magical aspects - to make dates of highly important magical numbers have specific big events happening at such dates instead of "random" dates as it would have been on the previous Julian calendar used shortly up until after the "discovery" of Americas which probably corresponds to when they got their hands on the mayan calendar and managed to understand it and properly adjust such dates, that the same people in power later on started to prepare and plan for a greater ritual to take place on 911, 2001, directed at comet Elenin and its corresponding date 9/11 - 2011 which is a very important date for what is happening with comet Elenin's orbit path as thats when it start to return back on its first day as well as when it is at its point most further away on its elliptical path, and this plan for 911 was planned along with the current illustrations on the dollar bills for further empowering occult and magical purposes along with Aleister Crowley whom told us how to fold the same dollar bills to see the 911 attack transpire in the exact way it actually would in completely correct sequence from dollar bill to dollar bill in their correct valued order starting with smallest and ending with the biggest 100 dollar bill, in turn meaning that these people in power have spent generations on executing and planning the ritual and building the WTC's 2 towers specifically as a gigantic altar of sacrifice to perform the ritual on at its appropriate time, until finally executing their ritual through the staged 911-event sacrificing thousands of people directly for affecting comet Elenin in some way through its "gateway date" now 9/11 this year 2011 the exact day of the 10 years celebration for the 911 ritual itself, and finally the creation of a fake non-existing "astronomer" by the fictional name Leonid Elenin as another symbolic sigil of magic connected with the full ritual by using two names that themselves relates directly to the events and the comet itself by name and date (Leonid = meteorshower, Elenin = ELEvN-NINe / NINeELEven respectfully forwards and backwards in the same manner the actual date is written respectfully both 9/11 and 11/9 in different parts of the world.

A really complex and carefully planned ritual taking place in several steps leading up to the main event the comet Elenin itself spanning through several hundred years since first initiated and started around the times of Colombus and the trip to Americas and continued on until it will be completed this year.

One of the major players and involved parts of this gigantic event have been the Vatican, as Columbus was directly involved with them, and it was the Vatican who then changed the old Julian calender into the modern Gregorian calendar which was adjusted according to the Mayan calendar, and it was also the Vatican who were responsible for the takeover, destruction and fall of the Americas and the great civilizations that lived there already, obviously the Vatican also got a great amount of power over large masses of people including brainwashing and mind control of the same people, the Vatican has shown its brutal path through history and how it has been destroying and removing any opponents and people not fitting into their methods of control such as the already mentioned highly advanced and spiritual civilizations of Americas as well as large amounts of other free and spiritual people up through the ages such as the ones they labelled "witches" and "sorcerers" etc, and they keep making sure people are cast into darkness and ignorance by denying all forms of "spiritual activities" that could give people more insights, freedom and understanding and labelling such involvements as "devil worship" and "black magic" and so on even though the reality is that the Vatican are the devil worshippers and black magicians here just portraying as "good holy men", and the Vatican has a great amount of groups working for them as extensions to carry out parts of their plans and rituals through various secret orders and societies among other things having the freemasons responsible for the creation of USA and americas as we know them now, and that's just a few of their "deeds".

Obviously all of this will sound rather ludicrous and insane to most of the common people since they have been indoctrinated and led so far astray that they have become used to the deceit put upon them for so long time that they consider the story them have been carefully fed throughout their lives as the "truth". However everything I have mentioned here will be very clear and logical for those whom have actually studied and been involved with the occult systems, arts of magic, secret orders & societies, the esoteric foundations of history and so on.

[TWINCANS]

There's been so many threads on this comet and now its on the screen according to dutchsinse. You can take this or leave it, your choice. I don't focus on fear but sometimes this stuff just comes in and the info isn't all love'n light.

For what it's worth my hubby and I have been getting that this was 'redirected' into us. How long the plan was in the making I leave up to your excellent calculations on this thread. We've been led to understand the purpose is to try to stop the earth's ascension. To maintain control of Terra with all the humans and lifeforms here. It will affect, and already is to some extent, the earth's electromagnetic energy body. (Think of it as Terra's chakras and whole auric field).

It's approach sets up a repulsion affect within the field. Like when you put 2 magnets together with the poles lined up at the same ends - there is a repulsion. This will be difficult on humans too. It causes fear, confusion, aggression etc. This first pass is like a dry run. The ptb are also ready to use their mind control devices to heighten the effects ie Full Moon times, other celestial alignments.

But the Sept/Oct/Nov time is the Main Event. We will receive some of the tail primarily in the southern hemisphere. The falling debris may cause tsunamis and coastal areas will not be not choice places to be. There will also be shifts in plate tectonics due to the pull, which is already happening as well. The full extent can't be forecast.

I haven't wanted to ask about microbes but there's every likelihood it carries new lifeforms of some kind, isn't there? BTW the results will not achieve the ptb plan - the dimensional shift is assured.

[ghostrider]

people speak, vibrations change, you believe or not, your mind makes it real or not, your perceptions are influenced one way or the other. Nibiru and it's path are much older than any scientist alive today, older than technology of today, this time this event, this moment, this experience is different, important, so important every culture of earth spoke from ancient times of a cycle, a planet, they carved it on STONE. very old STONES, very ancient STONES. why stones? cause when fire, flood, and devistation pass, the only thing left is water, stones, sand, trees, and sky, and bones. everything else -gone- gone. if you wanted to leave a message to future generations that was of global importance what would you write it on? why always a person looking at the sky/solar system/ based around a strange planet? why? BECAUSE IT'S THE MOST IMPORTANT TIME IN THE KNOWN WORLD ! stay on the fence if you want. this crossing of nibiru will happen , again and again, and again. the atlanteans made a star compass with our solar system in it and a BIG cross representing nibiru on it . it was found years ago, points right to the planet of the crossing. yes nibiru will cross right in front of earth shortly. maybe earth will shift to a higher dimension to avoid nibiru's crossing. may be the whole reason for the call, the starkids, the vibrations raising, we must shift, or nibiru will devestate earth AGAIN. the annunaki/gods will remind earth who is GOD. we will pass by and wipe out our creation, 3,600 years we come back and wipe out again, 3,600 years wipe out again. when our experiment gets to evolved with technology we must keep them in check. 3,600 years we pass again , cleanse the earth, and the genetic garden begins again. and again. just a thought, you know out loud thinking...

[Maia Gabrial]

So far, we have all kinds of versions of what's going to happen in 2012, with Elenin,The Sun, Planet X, whatever else.... Some of it is fluffy feel good stuff. The majority is gloom and doom. I can't believe that ALL of these people have an inside track and yet can sound so completely different from each other.... The only thing that comes to mind is that it's ALL being used to confuse us. What is the truth? I can't sort any of the truth out of all the deceptions and misleading information....Can any of you?
But George Kavassilas gave some good advice on this. Center yourself in your heart. It's the one part of you that CAN'T be manipulated....