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    Particle wind pressure going up...


    Quote Sorry for the disappeared picture. These pictures are not archived as such but are turned in movies.

    Here is the link to view that Aug. 6 solar storm:

    http://www3.nict.go.jp/y/y223/simula...6.20110806.avi
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    G'day All,

    As said:
    kp 7 & 8
    Solar wind @ 610
    bz currently 7.7nt south.

    Interesting: "Sky watchers at all latitudes should be alert for auroras after nightfall."

    I got my foil hat on.

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    for the numbers... Today it is 66 years since the hiroshima bomb was dropped...
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    Coming down!



    Quote Sorry for the disappeared picture. These pictures are not archived as such but are turned in movies.

    Here is the link to view that Aug. 6 solar storm:

    http://www3.nict.go.jp/y/y223/simula...6.20110806.avi
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    HAARP Magnetometer:


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    I thought "they" had disabled our ability to monitor haarp.

    Is this from a different site?

    BTW - thanks to all who are contributing to keep the rest of us current on this important information

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    hmmmm.... i guess i better build me a Faraday cage.
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    Going to add another powerful video again here so we don't lose focus on what is going on.

    This one from our good friend giovonni and the "Ranch" thread. Panel discussion includes Gilliland but others as well.

    Very nice:



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    From Solar Influences Data Analysis Center Presto Alert:

    Quote Latest issue

    :Issued: 2011 Aug 06 0907 UTC
    roduct: documentation at http://www.sidc.be/products/presto
    #--------------------------------------------------------------------#
    # FAST WARNING 'PRESTO' MESSAGE from the SIDC (RWC-Belgium) #
    #--------------------------------------------------------------------#
    A strong geomagnetic storm (NOAA's estimated Kp = 8) was triggered last
    night by the arrival of the CME activity of Aug 4. The Bz component of
    the IMF went down to -20nT for several hours and the solar wind speed
    jumped from 400 to 650 km/s. At this moment we are still at Kp=5 but the
    Bz component of the IMF is positive again. This suggests that the worst
    of the geomagnetic storm has passed and that we are returned to more
    normal conditions.
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    Yes, Astrid, very good reference....

    We also got up to the S2 Level of Solar Radiation Storms. That must be why the commercial airplanes were flying so low over my house last night. (rumble rumble)

    http://www.swpc.noaa.gov/alerts/arch...ent_month.html

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    Satellites environment/recordings:


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    Quote Posted by Calz_Avaretard (here)
    I thought "they" had disabled our ability to monitor haarp.

    Is this from a different site?

    BTW - thanks to all who are contributing to keep the rest of us current on this important information
    It's all propaganda...

    Same ol' site as usual: http://www.haarp.alaska.edu/haarp/data.html

    Gakona is the only active/on-line one; all the others are disabled/off-line.

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    Of interest from SpaceWeather.com

    NIGHT-TIME SOLAR RADIO BURST: The M9-class solar flare of August 4th produced a burst of shortwave static so powerful that receivers on Earth picked it up after sunset. "A RadioJove observer in Florida recorded the burst when the sun was 38 degrees below the horizon," reports amateur radio astronomer Thomas Ashcraft. Ashcraft's own radio telescope in New Mexico recorded the event 1 hour and 54 minutes after sunset:
    "To my knowledge, receptions like this are very rare," says Ashcraft.
    Indeed they are. This event brings to mind the iconic night-time solar radio burst of March 8, 1958. Five radio telescopes at the University of Florida picked up emissions from the sun while observing the planet Jupiter in tthe middle of the night. On the other side of the world, radio astronomers in daylit Australia confirmed that a powerful solar radio burst had taken place at that exact time. The event is described in a 1959 Nature paper by pioneering radio astronomers Alex Smith and Tom Carr. They considered the possibility that solar radio waves might have been reflected by the Moon or carried to the night side of Earth by ionospheric ducting. In the end, they could not conclusively explain what happened and to this day night-time solar radio bursts remain a puzzle


    Which gets back to this:


    Quote Adventures in Shortwave Radio Research

    The work of John H. Nelson is the second big dot to connect in understanding this process of how planetary alignments relate to solar activity and thus geomagnetic activity on Earth. Nelson was a shortwave radio researcher who worked for RCA (Radio Corporation of America) during the 1950s and 60s. He was tasked with finding a way to predict days when shortwave signals would be disrupted. (Remember this was before satellite communication, so there was a certain interest in maintaining these radio connections between the continents.) Even at this point, scientists had noticed the link between sunspot activity and the geomagnetic activity that affected shortwave radio transmissions, but they had no accurate means to predict when solar activity was likely to break out. Nelson studied the sunspot patterns for a number of years until he grew frustrated by his lack of progress in making long-range predictions.

    Nelson then began to look at past solar storms where radio transmissions were wiped out for several days, hoping to find some sort of reoccurring pattern that might explain why these days, and not others, were special. On a whim, he decided to test an idea about the position of the planets, and used the date March 23rd 1940, the date of a significant geomagnetic storm, for his initial test date. He looked up the positions of the planets for this particular day and to his surprise noticed something very interesting.



    What he found was that on this day several planets lined up with each other. He discovered that Mercury was at opposition with Jupiter on March 22nd, and then in conjunction with Saturn on March 26th. On March 24, one of the worst days in terms of radio transmission, Venus was square to Saturn. Nelson described this radio outage on March 23rd 1940 as being the "Rosetta Stone" of forecasting solar activity. This was just the start. He later discovered many more idiosyncrasies with the way the planets teased solar activity out of the Sun.

    Nelson discovered that solar activity was more likely to occur during some conjunction, opposition or square between an inner and outer planet which he referred to as 'hard' angles. This was usually the initiating factor in the solar storms he observed and predicted. He also noted that other harmonics of these 'hard' angles served to increase solar activity as well. By 'harmonic' I mean taking 180 degrees and dividing it by integers. So angles like 180/2 = 90, 180/3 = 60, 180/4 = 45, 180/5 = 36 and so on... Even multiples of these harmonics such as 75 degrees (15 x 5) or 135 (45 x 3) and others could play a role too. Why harmonics were important to this process is unclear and probably something Nelson was hoping future research would shed light on, but nonetheless these were the observations he made.

    He noticed that in the absence of any 'hard' angles, the trine angles (120 and 240 degrees) tended to stabilize solar activity, making good days for shortwave transmissions. The trine configuration of Saturn and Jupiter was especially significant in this regard. But he also noted that if a trine angle corresponded with a 'hard' angle between an inner and outer planet on the same day, it would usually magnify solar activity.

    Nelson discovered that when multiple planets fell into harmonic relations this seemed to add to the solar activity initiated by a 'hard' angle. But these harmonics by themselves, without a 'hard' angle, usually did nothing. Likewise, a hard angle by itself without any added harmonics usually did nothing as well. Nelson also discovered that a planet's ascending and descending nodes played a role in setting up solar storms too. From his book Cosmic Patterns he writes:
    The major storms analyzed in the following discussions will often contain more than one hard angle and numerous harmonics. Sometimes several hard angles with their associated harmonics follow one another in quite rapid succession, resulting in major storms, some of which can be prolonged for this reason.

    The planet Mercury is of major importance. One would expect this since it is the closest planet to the sun and has the greatest orbital velocity. (It also has considerable gravitational effects when at perihelion, however I do not wish to get into the area of gravitation since my prime interest is in angles.) I think it is safe to say that in at least 90 percent of the cases Mercury is the trigger planet. The planets slower than Mercury can be all set up on a major pattern but a storm usually does not begin until Mercury moves into a hard angle with one of them, or as a harmonic to two that are already associated in a hard angle.

    Simple, uncontaminated conjunctions, squares, and oppositions involving only two planets can usually be ignored. Simultaneous multiple harmonics are the key. There are so many hard angles made by Mercury and Venus because of their velocity that, if every hard angle presaged a storm, shortwave radio would have a very difficult time surviving.

    Another rule is that the intensity of a storm will be greater if a planet making a hard angle is at, or close to, either its nodal point or perihelion point in space.

    [...]

    At perihelion a planet is at that point in its orbit which brings it closest to the sun. Nodes are the places in a planet's orbit at which it crosses the plane of the Earth's orbit which means, of course, that the planet is crossing the ecliptic. There are two nodes, known as the ascending node, the point at which the planet crosses from below the ecliptic to above the ecliptic, and the descending node (180 degrees away), at which point the planet crosses from above to below the ecliptic. My research throughout the years has shown that these points in space are very important in this work.

    The research relating to the nodes has revealed that the point halfway between the nodes is also a very sensitive area in space - apparently as important as the nodes themselves. At this point in space the planet pauses for an instant in the motion that is taking it away from the ecliptic, and then starts back again towards the ecliptic. Perhaps in doing this it creates a torque in the magnetic field of the sun. This can be demonstrated by dragging a canoe paddle through still water, then suddenly reversing the paddle; an eddy is created in the water. Could the same thing take place in the sun's outer atmosphere?
    Here's an example of one prediction he made for a severe solar storm that occurred on August 30, 1960. This planetary arrangement involves all nine planets at harmonic angles to each other.



    © American Federation of Astrologers
    Extremely severe disturbance on August 30, 1960

    This is a remarkable example of a very strong simultaneous multiple harmonic involving several planets. An examination of this diagram shows us that Mercury was in conjunction with Pluto at the same time that it was in opposition to Earth and harmonically related to Mars and Jupiter, being 120 degrees ahead of Mars and 120 degrees behind Jupiter. This of course placed the Earth also in a strong harmonic relation, since it was 180 degrees from Mercury and Pluto. Mercury also made a 45 degree angle with Venus, a 60 degree angle with Neptune, and a 15 degree angle with Uranus. At the beginning of the storm, Mercury also made a 135 degree contact with Saturn. All nine planets in the solar system were involved in this arrangement. Shortwave signals were completely blacked out during the night of the 30th.

    This storm was predicted officially on July 19th with the statement that a·complete blackout would take place on August 30th.
    The nice thing about Nelson's findings is that all of these factors are predictable and can be calculated far into the future. This suggests that it may be possible to predict solar storms via computer algorithms. In fact, I discovered one ham radio enthusiast who attempted to use part of Nelson's Theory in his own computer program to calculate a 'Nelson index' for each day. It's a crude attempt, and it doesn't take into account all of the factors the Nelson discovered, but it seems that he did have some preliminary success at accounting for past solar activity. Nelson believed his method brought about a 85% success rate in predicting future solar storms.

    Despite Nelson's many successes at predicting solar storms, which he mentions in his book, there do seem to be some factors missing from his work. I think it would be worthwhile to consider some of James McCanney's ideas in light of Nelson's discoveries. The first missing factor is the influence of the Moon and how it interacts with the Earth-Sun connection. According to McCanney, when the Moon passes in front of the Earth (during a New Moon), there's a build-up of charge which then gets dumped into the ionosphere after the Moon passes. McCanney points out that the chance for hurricanes and cyclones greatly increases just after the passing of a New Moon. (Yes, cyclone-type storms like tornadoes and hurricanes are likely electric phenomena.) The Moon by itself may have little influence over solar activity compared to the planets, but it seems to have quite an effect on Earth.



    The other factor missing from Nelson's work is comets. Should we factor alignments of comets in with the rest of the planets? To me this seems like a no-brainer since some comets can actually be the size of moons or planets, not to mention the fact that comets appear to be much more electrically active too. McCanney mentions several examples of comet alignments and their effect on Earth in his book Planet-X, Comets and Earth Changes. It seems that comets don't need to directly impact the Earth to create 'changes' in our environment.

    We recently passed through an alignment with Comet Elenin around March 15th. There was also massive solar and geomagnetic activity around this time along with a major earthquake in Japan and earthquakes elsewhere too. Comet Elenin came into alignment with Mars towards the end of April, and this month turned out to be one of the most active months for tornadoes in US history. There does seem to be a strong correlation between solar activity, severe weather, earthquakes, and volcanoes; and it appears that planet (and comet) positions play a large role in setting up this solar activity. Further data and research is obviously needed to draw any definite conclusions, but this seems to be a good working hypothesis for the moment.

    One wonders if alignments with first magnitude stars or large cosmic radio sources might have certain effects as well. Perhaps once we understand the impact of these nearby influences we'll be able to understand the finer influences received from the cosmos too.


    Whole article here: http://www.sott.net/articles/show/229308-Planetary-Alignments-and-the-Solar-Capacitor-Things-are-heatin-up--
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    Now, comets are fine in promoting the theory... however, what's missing is the position of that whale of a stellar body: That Brown dwarf twin to our Sun.

    Where is it?

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    The brown dwarf is just behind Elenin. Elenin is proceeding the brown dwarf. Watch Stereo behind and we should start seeing something soon!

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    Thanks for the input Jean-Marie .

    However that theory doesn't hold much water as discussed in the Elenin thread, starting at post #650.

    What belongs to this thread is our Sun's dwarf twin getting it going berserk. Hence, finding where that dwarf is in the sky could lead to better predictions as far as earth quakes, CMEs and other manifestations go.

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    From SpaceWeather.com:

    M-CLASS SOLAR FLARE: Sunspot 1263 produced an impulsive M3-class solar flare on August 8th at 1810 UT. In Falmouth, Maine, amateur astronomer John Stetson happened to be observing the sun and he caught the sunspot in mid-eruption:
    "Perhaps we will get some more auroras this week," Stetson wrote hopefully. Alas, no. Although this eruption did hurl a CME into space, the plasma cloud does not appear to be heading for Earth. Further analysis could reverse this conclusion, however, so stay tuned for updates.
    WEEKEND AURORAS: A widespread display of auroras erupted late Friday, Aug. 5th, when a double-CME hit Earth's magnetic field and sparked a G4-category geomagnetic storm. Click on the image to view a time lapse video of the event recorded by Michael Ericsson on the shores of Tibbitt Lake in the Northwest Territories of Canada:
    "Although not the most intense auroras I've ever seen, this one is definitely up there on my favorites list," he says.
    The show was not restricted to Canada. Northern Lights spilled across the border into the United States as far south as Oregon, Utah, Colorado, and Nebraska. (Note: The faint red lights photographed in Nebraska are typical of low-latitude auroras during major geomagnetic storms.) Observers in Europe as far south as England, Germany and Poland also witnessed a fine display. Browse the gallery for more examples

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    An X 6.9 solar flare today:


    http://www.tesis.lebedev.ru/en/sun_f...m=8&d=9&y=2011

    "Massive X6.9 Solar Flare:
    The largest solar flare of Cycle 24 just took place at 08:05 UTC and it registered a whopping X6.9. The source was Sunspot 1263 which is nearing the Western Limb. Because of its location, any large explosions may not be fully earth directed. When watching new video images from the STEREO website, it appears the CME is less intense than the one caused by the M9.3 flare from last week. A minor S1 Radiation Storm is in progress. More information to come."
    www.solarham.com

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    I wonder if there is a connection with the effects of these solar flares hitting the earth and the behaviour of humans in direct contact with these emissions. Just pondering the rise in violence and the rise in CME intensity hitting us. Afte rall we are said to be effected by the Moon etc Could explain a few things.

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    Hello Philipbbg,
    When there is a big solar flare (can be an M flare), we notice in our family fatigue and often a rise in unpleasant emotions/irritations. But when the flare hits the earth a few days later - an electromagnetic storm, then we become very peaceful, loving and positive and energetic. And it seems as if afther the storm whe can better behold such states. Especially after the last one on about last friday/saterday, this was very remarkable.I wonder if more people notice this. This morning (Netherlands - sorry for my english) we were all very tired I wondered wat the reason could be - and then I saw about the X flare. Thanks for the question, I am very interested in the aswers of others.

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