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    Babies by nobody and for nobody are an institution in France. How long before we have a properly commercialized baby market ? Complete with the ability to return children if they're not up to scratch, too ugly, too dumb or annoyingly sick all the time ? There could also be a thriving second-hand market, with reduced prices for barely used babies.

    Why should children not do their bit for the capitalist system ? And it would totally work, because the market is always right ! So yeah "Baby selling" Rings sound like some sinister thing that's different than what is in fact legal, but it's not really all that different.

    Which is quite frequently, equally a product of a capitalist market that is indifferent to human suffering.

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    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...y-2333283.html

    http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lano...ling-ring.html
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    That is a very, very sad article.
    No compassion by the system for these people.
    Not that I am surprised, I just get angry every time it is confirmed to me.

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    Ahhh... I have thought about this before. Parents could rent a baby and make their teenage daughter keep it for a month to show them how hard it is being a young mother. Might be a great form of birth control lol

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    The one thing I absolutely cannot do is carry a baby with my DNA, and then sell it. I’ve always known I was adopted. I don’t remember being told it was just a plain fact, like having elbows. But I do remember being told that it made me special that my mother and my father wanted a daughter badly, and waited for me, picked me.... It was never anything I was ashamed of or upset about. My parents picked me !!!!! They wanted me !!!! But there comes a time when you wonder who you are where you came from, whose hair you have, who to blame for your big feet and your nose. You wonder if the all encompassing loneliness that you always feel, the otherness, has anything to do with the fact that you were separated from your mother so early. You wonder if your mother felt betrayed and sad when pregnant with you, explaining your own sadness through your life. You wonder if you’d be happy if you weren’t adopted.

    That's my story.

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    Quote Posted by Gaia (here)
    The one thing I absolutely cannot do is carry a baby with my DNA, and then sell it. I’ve always known I was adopted. I don’t remember being told it was just a plain fact, like having elbows. But I do remember being told that it made me special that my mother and my father wanted a daughter badly, and waited for me, picked me.... It was never anything I was ashamed of or upset about. My parents picked me !!!!! They wanted me !!!! But there comes a time when you wonder who you are where you came from, whose hair you have, who to blame for your big feet and your nose. You wonder if the all encompassing loneliness that you always feel, the otherness, has anything to do with the fact that you were separated from your mother so early. You wonder if your mother felt betrayed and sad when pregnant with you, explaining your own sadness through your life. You wonder if you’d be happy if you weren’t adopted.

    That's my story.

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    I am glad that you realise that you are a daughter by choice and not by accident like most of us.
    I hope that gives you some comfort.

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    Society already compels the parents to care for their children...I have much respect for your position Rob.

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    Quote Posted by Lord Sidious (here)
    Quote Posted by Gaia (here)
    The one thing I absolutely cannot do is carry a baby with my DNA, and then sell it. I’ve always known I was adopted. I don’t remember being told it was just a plain fact, like having elbows. But I do remember being told that it made me special that my mother and my father wanted a daughter badly, and waited for me, picked me.... It was never anything I was ashamed of or upset about. My parents picked me !!!!! They wanted me !!!! But there comes a time when you wonder who you are where you came from, whose hair you have, who to blame for your big feet and your nose. You wonder if the all encompassing loneliness that you always feel, the otherness, has anything to do with the fact that you were separated from your mother so early. You wonder if your mother felt betrayed and sad when pregnant with you, explaining your own sadness through your life. You wonder if you’d be happy if you weren’t adopted.

    That's my story.

    Gaia
    I am glad that you realise that you are a daughter by choice and not by accident like most of us.
    I hope that gives you some comfort.

    I'm glad that I am adopted. I enjoy the special feelings I get from simple, everyday things; I like that I have two names I don't really have any other issues related to being adopted. I've never felt angry about it. In fact, I seem to thrive off of my individuality. It is difficult to ponder and work through something, however, when there's no one around to help.

    Much love to you Rob !

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    The one thing I absolutely cannot do is carry a baby with my DNA, and then sell it. I’ve always known I was adopted. I don’t remember being told it was just a plain fact, like having elbows. But I do remember being told that it made me special that my mother and my father wanted a daughter badly, and waited for me, picked me.... It was never anything I was ashamed of or upset about. My parents picked me !!!!! They wanted me !!!! But there comes a time when you wonder who you are where you came from, whose hair you have, who to blame for your big feet and your nose. You wonder if the all encompassing loneliness that you always feel, the otherness, has anything to do with the fact that you were separated from your mother so early. You wonder if your mother felt betrayed and sad when pregnant with you, explaining your own sadness through your life. You wonder if you’d be happy if you weren’t adopted.

    That's my story.

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    I am glad that you realise that you are a daughter by choice and not by accident like most of us.
    I hope that gives you some comfort.

    I'm glad that I am adopted. I enjoy the special feelings I get from simple, everyday things; I like that I have two names I don't really have any other issues related to being adopted. I've never felt angry about it. In fact, I seem to thrive off of my individuality. It is difficult to ponder and work through something, however, when there's no one around to help.

    Much love to you Rob !

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    And to you, glad you came back.

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    In the meantime Rob, try to remember who you are and the many blessings that do exist in your life and miracle comes in a crisis, and a blessing is designed to keep us out of a crisis.

    Welcome back my friend

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    Bienvenue de retour!

    I am just wondering... are you sure your parents picked you and not the reverse?

    Meaning: you chose them knowing they would pick you... without a nudge from the spirit realm...

    Just a thought but, if true... then you are quite a being!

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    Cher Amzer Zo, quand mes parent m'ont vu à l'orphelinat de Pointe aux Trembles chez les bonnes soeurs, c'était un dimanche de 1967 après une visite à l'Expo de cette année à Montréal, je m'amusais avec les autres et parait-il que j'était couverte de chocolat au visage donné par les visiteurs... Ma mère et mon père non peu résister à mes yeux bleus et mes cheveux blonds et le visage barbouiller de chocolat. Mais je sais que je les ai choisi c'était Karmique..

    Désolé mon google translator ne fonctionne pas ...HA! Ha!

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    Touchant... et touché!

    Too bad about Google translator; hope the readers' one works.

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    Je l'espère bien pour eux mon ami Amzer Zo et Merci: Mmmmm... Y pas juste Jésus qui est née à la crèche

    http://genealogie.planete.qc.ca/file...ery/344794.jpg

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    Mmmmm... Y pas juste Jésus qui est née à la crèche
    I had a good laugh with that one... quickly sobered up at the site of the orphanage... reminded me my mom spent her entire youth and teen age years in a similar facility with nuns during WWII, her parents being locked out by the German Navy in a far away location.

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    Chère amie, I was holding back on starting a new thread on the darker aspect of what you started here. Then reading about the full moon in another thread and reading your contribution here... Ok, it's time!

    Because in some people's mind... it's just business and how much profit can be made, bribes included... hence nothing is done about it.

    Here it is: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post283872

    Merci de m'avoir donné le courage.

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    The one thing I absolutely cannot do is carry a baby with my DNA, and then sell it. I’ve always known I was adopted. I don’t remember being told it was just a plain fact, like having elbows. But I do remember being told that it made me special that my mother and my father wanted a daughter badly, and waited for me, picked me.... It was never anything I was ashamed of or upset about. My parents picked me !!!!! They wanted me !!!! But there comes a time when you wonder who you are where you came from, whose hair you have, who to blame for your big feet and your nose. You wonder if the all encompassing loneliness that you always feel, the otherness, has anything to do with the fact that you were separated from your mother so early. You wonder if your mother felt betrayed and sad when pregnant with you, explaining your own sadness through your life. You wonder if you’d be happy if you weren’t adopted.

    That's my story.

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    I am glad that you realise that you are a daughter by choice and not by accident like most of us.
    I hope that gives you some comfort.

    I'm glad that I am adopted. I enjoy the special feelings I get from simple, everyday things; I like that I have two names I don't really have any other issues related to being adopted. I've never felt angry about it. In fact, I seem to thrive off of my individuality. It is difficult to ponder and work through something, however, when there's no one around to help.

    Much love to you Rob !

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    Quote Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
    Bienvenue de retour!

    I am just wondering... are you sure your parents picked you and not the reverse?

    Meaning: you chose them knowing they would pick you... without a nudge from the spirit realm...

    Just a thought but, if true... then you are quite a being!
    In the spiritual realm both happen.

    Just last night, someone had a dream about connecting with me. I had a dream about connecting with them. Today we connected, in the exact pattern illustrated as a coming communication, in these two separate dreams.

    thus, we see through time, there is no time on that level.

    Gaia,

    You planned to be with your parents, they planned to be with you. In reality, at that spiritual level, you've probably known them for countless lives.
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    Makes sense that it's a mutual thing.

    Thanks for the clarification.

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    Quote Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
    Makes sense that it's a mutual thing.

    Thanks for the clarification.
    yeppers!

    BTW, I like your avatar. Says about all there is needed to know about the human condition.
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    Quote Posted by Carmody (here)
    Quote Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
    Makes sense that it's a mutual thing.

    Thanks for the clarification.
    yeppers!

    BTW, I like your avatar. Says about all there is needed to know about the human condition.
    Thanks!


    Indeed!


    Chose it as the reverse variation on the ugly duckling tale...

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