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    Default Re: Explosive Testimony: Honolulu Chief Elections Clerk says Obama NOT Born in Hawai

    Hawaii elections clerk: Obama not born here
    Official who oversaw ballots in 2008 race says hospital birth certificate non-existent
    Posted: June 10, 2010
    3:39 am Eastern

    By Joe Kovacs
    © 2010 WorldNetDaily

    A college instructor who worked as a senior elections clerk for the city and county of Honolulu in 2008 is making the stunning claim Barack Obama was definitely not born in Hawaii as the White House maintains, and that a long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate for Obama does not even exist in the Aloha State.


    Tim Adams, a former senior elections clerk for Honolulu, now teaches English at Western Kentucky University.

    "There is no birth certificate," said Tim Adams, a graduate assistant who teaches English at Western Kentucky University in Bowling Green, Ky. "It's like an open secret. There isn't one. Everyone in the government there knows this."

    Adams, who says he's a Hillary Clinton supporter who ended up voting for John McCain when Clinton lost the Democratic nomination to Obama, told WND, "I managed the absentee-ballot office. It was my job to verify the voters' identity."

    He says during the 2008 campaign when the issue of Obama's constitutional eligibility first arose, the elections office was inundated with requests to verify the birthplace of the U.S. senator from Illinois.

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    "I had direct access to the Social Security database, the national crime computer, state driver's license information, international passport information, basically just about anything you can imagine to get someone's identity," Adams explained. "I could look up what bank your home mortgage was in. I was informed by my boss that we did not have a birth record [for Obama]."

    At the time, there were conflicting reports that Obama had been born at the Queen's Medical Center in Honolulu, as well as the Kapi'olani Medical Center for Women and Children across town. So Adams says his office checked with both facilities.

    "They told us, 'We don't have a birth certificate for him,'" he said. "They told my supervisor, either by phone or by e-mail, neither one has a document that a doctor signed off on saying they were present at this man's birth."

    To date, no Hawaiian hospital has provided documented confirmation that Obama was born at its facility.


    Copy of original long-form birth certificate of Susan Nordyke, born in Honolulu the day after Obama's reported birthdate. President Obama has never produced any document like this

    WND confirmed with Hawaiian officials that Adams was indeed working in their election offices during the last presidential election.

    "His title was senior elections clerk in 2008," said Glen Takahashi, elections administrator for the city and county of Honolulu.

    Takahashi also confirmed Adams' time frame at the office from spring until the month of August.

    "We hire temporary workers, because we're seasonal," he said.

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    However, when WND asked Takahashi if the elections office could check on birth records, he said, "We don't have access to that kind of records. [There's] no access to birth records."

    Adams responded, "They may say, 'We don't have access to that.' The regular workers don't, the ones processing ballots; but the people in administration do. I was the one overseeing the work of the people doing the balloting."

    Adams stressed, "In my professional opinion, [Obama] definitely was not born in Hawaii. I can say without a shadow of a doubt that he was not born in Hawaii because there is no legal record of him being born there. If someone called and asked about it, I could not tell them that person was born in the state."

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    The White House has maintained a computer-generated Certification of Live Birth, or COLB, is proof enough of Obama's Hawaiian birth, even though it has no hospital or doctor's name on it. Such documents differ from a Certificate of Live Birth which includes those details. In response to a direct question from WND, the Hawaii Department of Health refused to authenticate either of the two versions of Obama's short-form COLB, posted online – neither the image produced by the Obama campaign nor the images released by FactCheck.org.


    This short-form Certification of Live Birth image, which is not the same as a long-form, hospital-generated Certificate of Live Birth, was released by the Obama campaign June 2008.

    "Anyone can get that [COLB]," said Adams. "They are normally given if you give birth at home or while traveling overseas. We have a lot of Asian population [in Hawaii]. It's quite common for people to come back and get that."

    When WND mentioned there were announcements of Obama's birth published in Hawaiian newspapers, Adams noted, "I'm sure the [maternal] grandparents were happy to put that in the paper when he got born."

    But Adams says that doesn't necessarily mean he was actually born in Hawaii. While he's not 100 percent sure of Obama's true birthplace, he does think Kenya is a possibility, since his paternal grandmother stated that before allegedly being silenced by other family members.


    Gov. Linda Lingle, R-Hawaii

    Last month, as WND reported, Hawaii's Republican Gov. Linda Lingle reignited Obama's origin on a New York radio show.

    "It's been an odd situation," Lingle said. "This issue kept coming up so much in the campaign, and again I think it's one of those issues that is simply a distraction from the more critical issues that are facing the country.

    "So I had my health director, who is a physician by background, go personally view the birth certificate in the birth records of the Department of Health, and we issued a news release at that time saying that the president was, in fact, born at Kapi'olani Hospital in Honolulu, Hawaii. And that's just a fact and yet people continue to call up and e-mail and want to make it an issue and I think it's again a horrible distraction for the country by those people who continue this."

    Although the governor now claims she issued a news release stating Kapi'olani is Obama's birthplace, the actual release said no such thing, making no reference to Kapi'olani nor any other specific location of Obama's birth.

    WND asked Adams why the governor would make such assertions if a Hawaiian hospital-generated birth certificate did not exist.

    "Why would they say they've seen it and not produce it? I don't know," he said. "If they said they've seen the document, then why not produce the document? There's no need to put themselves out like that. I can't even begin to think why they did that except for some kind of political expediency. I'm too far down the totem pole [to know]."

    While Adams, who noted he spent nearly 10 years in the islands and has a bachelor's degree from the University of Hawaii, says he's certain Obama was not born there, he also does think the president is indeed a U.S. citizen, since his mother, Stanley Ann Dunham was an American.

    He says he merely would like to see the truth come out and have the controversy over natural-born citizenship and presidential eligibility resolved once and for all.

    "It's come to the point where it's a monster, and it's time to kill it," Adams said. "Solve the problem so that everyone can get back to cooperating to improve the country. People have lost sight that we're trying to make the country a better place."

    He also feels some empathy for Obama, foreseeing what the president would potentially experience based on confirmation of his claims.

    "You don't have to like President Obama," he said, "but it is sad that he's going to have to go through this public pillory by the time this all comes out, that they did cover this up; and that's sad because the first African-American man to become president shouldn't have this blight on his term in office. That's what he'll get remembered for. It's sad."

    Adams says he's been telling other people his information for a long time, and he's free to talk about it publicly since he no longer has any confidentiality restrictions from his former employer, the Honolulu government. People started to pay attention this week after he was briefly interviewed by James Edwards, host of a weekly radio show on WLRM Radio in Memphis, Tenn.

    As WND reported last July, the Kapi'olani Medical Center trumpeted – then later concealed – a letter allegedly written by President Obama in which he ostensibly declares his birth at the facility.


    A photograph taken by the Kapi'olani Medical Center for WND shows a letter allegedly written by President Obama on embossed White House stationery in which he declares the Honolulu hospital to be "the place of my birth," The hospital, after publicizing the letter then refusing to confirm it even existed, is now vouching for its authenticity, but not its content. The White House has yet to verify any aspect of the letter.

    "As a beneficiary of the excellence of Kapi'olani Medical Center – the place of my birth – I am pleased to add my voice to your chorus of supporters," Obama purportedly wrote.


    This excerpt from the alleged Obama letter is perhaps the first formal declaration from the president about his exact birthplace. The White House has still not confirmed if the letter or its contents are authentic.

    But the authenticity of that letter remains in doubt. Since WND raised questions about the veracity of the letter itself and its content, the White House has refused to say if the message is real and if its text originated with the president.

    When WND correspondent Les Kinsolving asked Press Secretary Robert Gibbs about the letter at the July 13 news briefing, Gibbs dodged the question, refusing to confirm its authenticity while belittling Kinsolving for even posing the question.


    Press Secretary Robert Gibbs refused to confirm the authenticity of the alleged Jan. 24, 2009, letter from President Obama to his purported place of birth, Kapi'olani Medical Center.

    "Do all of your listeners and the listeners throughout this country the service to which any journalist owes those listeners, and that is the pursuit of the noble truth," Gibbs lectured Kinsolving. "And the noble truth is that the president was born in Hawaii, a state of the United States of America."

    Since the medical center used the letter for a high-profile fundraising campaign in the Spring 2009 edition of its Inspire Magazine, the FBI and United States Secret Service said the matter could potentially lead to criminal prosecution were the letter determined to be fraudulent.

    "It would be a charity-fraud scheme," said FBI spokesman Steve Kodak. "It would be investigated by us or the Secret Service. We both have jurisdiction over that."

    WND also revealed the discovery by private investigators who say Obama is mysteriously using a Social Security Number that was issued in Connecticut, despite having worked in Hawaii as a teen and there being no mention of him living in Connecticut.

    Meanwhile, Hawaii continues to get requests for release of Obama's hospital-generated birth certificate, leading state lawmakers to take action.

    They passed a bill in April allowing any Hawaii department to ignore repeated inquiries for information from the same person, if the department already has responded within a year. Gov. Lingle signed it into law shortly after WND's report about her declaration on radio that Obama was born at Kapi'olani.

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    Default Obama to be given the right to shut down the internet with 'kill switch' Read more:

    Well, it is official. Seems the internet looks like a weapon now to the governments. Not a good day for free expression.

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    He would be able to order popular search engines such a Google and Yahoo to suspend access their websites in times of national emergency.

    Other US based Internet service providers as well as broadband providers would also come under his control in times of a 'cybersecurity emergency.' Any company that failed to comply would be subject to huge fines.

    Critics of the new law, which has been proposed by former presidential candidate Joe Liebermann, said it would be an abuse of power to let the White House control the internet.

    TechAmerica, one of the largest U.S. technology lobby groups, said the new law had the 'potential for absolute power.'.

    The proposed legislation, introduced into the US Senate by Lieberman who is chairman of the US Homeland Security committee, seeks to grant the President broad emergency powers over the internet in times of national emergency.

    A sustained terror attack on multiple cities would be considered a national emergency as would a cyber attack by 'hackers' on the US financial system.

    The director of National Intelligence Dennis Blair warned earlier this year that the US is 'severely threatened' by malicious cyber attacks.

    The number of attacks on Government departments has increased by 400 per cent in the last three years.

    Under the proposed bill, which has been dubbed an Internet kill switch', the US Government would effectively seize control of access to the internet.

    Lieberman argued the bill was necessary to 'preserve those networks and assets and our country and protect our people'.

    He said: 'For all of its 'user-friendly' allure, the Internet can also be a dangerous place with electronic pipelines that run directly into everything from our personal bank accounts to key infrastructure to government and industrial secrets.

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencete...#ixzz0rJAU6MIq
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    Default Re: Obama to be given the right to shut down the internet with 'kill switch' Read mo

    You know it, I know it and everyone else knows it. The internet is not going away as long as there are people dedicated to hacking/cracking it. I would bet that people would work behind the scenes to keep some semblance of the internet going. If not, then there was life before the internet and there will be life after.

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    Default Re: Obama to be given the right to shut down the internet with 'kill switch' Read mo

    Quote Posted by Humble Janitor (here)
    You know it, I know it and everyone else knows it. The internet is not going away as long as there are people dedicated to hacking/cracking it. I would bet that people would work behind the scenes to keep some semblance of the internet going. If not, then there was life before the internet and there will be life after.
    I agree with you. In fact, such a move may backfire in that while the "average" non-techie user is shut out, those who are the real targets to shut up are going to be the very ones who figure out a way to continue access sans the controllers.

    In any event, the primary area of concern should NOT be the "googles," etc. on the web. It is the ACCESS nodes controlled by wireless, fiber optic and satellite providers.

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    Default Re: Obama to be given the right to shut down the internet with 'kill switch' Read mo

    I am on an island in the Caribbean. Internet is interrupted very frequently lately and sometimes slower than a dial-up connection. The reason given by the one and only ISP here is maintenance.

    But I think after so many weeks it is not the case ... If I speed test to their servers it's ok (locally everything is fine). It's the connection from the island to the outside world that's degraded ...
    (I know satellite is one of their main connections ... did they lose a satellite connection ?)

    Bottom line is: "You never miss the water until the well runs dry". There is nothing to solve through hacking here ... just degrade the capacity and you will get an idea what it is like not to be
    connected to the rest of the world like it used to be. When info stops flowing ... a lot more comes to a screeching halt. I think we should listen once more to the Dan Sherman interview

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    Default Re: Obama to be given the right to shut down the internet with 'kill switch' Read mo

    Here is another thought about that.
    Business and banking and government is being done over the internet more and more all the time.
    They need it to stay up.
    [Business is better on the net than anywhere unless you live in a big city.
    Banking is almost exclusively done over the net, and we know they want the way to collect money.
    Government services like paying property taxes and auto plates and social security activities are all being accomplished online.]

    They COULD threaten us with shutting it down, and if we are so easily thrown into fear (I was at first, too) that we lose our senses, we could get bullied into accepting an unacceptable kind of non freedom, but we do not have to accept that, if we know it is not something that would ever happen.
    If we say..., "Go ahead, shut it down!" then they will need to find some excuse to open it up again because they need it perhaps more than we suspect.
    They rely on it.
    If we knuckle under in fear, we could be made to accept the unacceptable.

    Please everyone, think this through!

    jeanna

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    Default Re: Obama to be given the right to shut down the internet with 'kill switch' Read mo

    Quote Lieberman argued the bill was necessary to 'preserve those networks and assets and our country and protect our people'.
    First of all, ANY time you hear this phrase, you know for a fact, someone is lieing to you. Nobody in Congress, or the Administration takes an oath to "protect people".

    What they all take an oath to do is "protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."

    There are specific jobs given to government. They have no others, except through usurpation. They have their oaths...
    Article II Section 1: (The President) "I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."

    Article IV: (Everyone else) "The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution"

    ... but keeping anyone safe is really only mentioned in terms of insuring domestic Tranquility.
    Amendment 1: Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press, or the right of the people peaceably to assemble.
    Quote He said: 'For all of its 'user-friendly' allure, the Internet can also be a dangerous place with electronic pipelines that run directly into everything from our personal bank accounts to key infrastructure to government and industrial secrets.
    Part 1: "the Internet can also be a dangerous place"
    Not his damned job! Says so, right here:
    "Congress shall make no law ... prohibiting ... or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press, or the right of the people to peaceably assemble. "

    Here is the biggest, dirtiest lie in US politics today. No one, and I mean nobody "gets" ANY rights from the Constitution! Nope! Not even in the so-called Bill Of Rights! Go read them!

    Each and every Amendment is written "in the negative". They are NOT about what you get... as a US citizen you had all this already! Had it before the Constitution was even written. They are written in the negative, because they are very specific declarations about what government will never do, and has no authority to touch. Get it?!?

    So government is not only given no authority, but is specifically prohibited from passing any law that lets government interfere with
    • speech,
    • press, and
    • people to peaceably assemble.
    The Internet represents all three.

    Part 2: "electronic pipelines that run directly into everything from our personal bank accounts to key infrastructure to government and industrial secrets."

    "personal bank accounts": Not Congress' job!
    "industrial secrets": Not their job either.
    "key infrastructure to government": Well golly! He finally hit on something that IS their job. Also, it's a job government has totally failed at. The US government's computer infrastructure leaks like a G-d Damned sieve!

    If Liebermann has a shred of credibility in this (relax, he doesn't) then it's because he knows damned well the government's computers are sitting ducks. What he is proposing is a pure Statist approach to a specific problem.

    He wants to:
    • Throw away his oath (did that decades ago),
    • Throw away the Constitution,
    and just make something up. Government giving itself more power it never had, and never should have. Power it will never give back.

    Link to a good CNet.com article.
    Link to the 197 page proposed bill (PDF).

    Here endeth the rant.

    Fred
    Last edited by Fredkc; 20th June 2010 at 03:52.

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    Default Re: Obama to be given the right to shut down the internet with 'kill switch' Read mo

    LOL - as if stopping Google will help with cyber attacks
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    Default Re: Obama to be given the right to shut down the internet with 'kill switch' Read mo

    Realize that the oath to protect and defend the constitution of the United States has nothing to do with the subjects (mostly you and I). The Constitution is a security defined as:
    Something given or deposited as surety for the fulfillment of a promise or an obligation, the payment of a debt, etc. One who becomes surety for another. An evidence of debt or of property, as a bond or a certificate of stock.

    See CONSTITUTOR, civil law. He who promised by a simple pact to pay the debt of another; and this is always a principal obligation.

    What they protect and defend are the creditors who financed/purchased this security (The Blessings of Liberty) - that being the international bankers whom we all unwittingly tithe and serve with our ignorance etc. We live in the Democracy - the de facto bankrupt state created when we defaulted twice (70 years per instance) on the original post Revolutionary War debt (The Constitution) and lost our individual sovereignty (1929).

    My apologies for the quick cliff notes version, however supporters of The Constitution have no clue what it is they are actually supporting. It's all smoke and mirrors.

    As far as taking the internet down. That's GREAT news - talk about a mass wake-up event. Washington will be nothing but 7 bricks and 1/2 a charred monument inside of a week.

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    Default Re: Obama to be given the right to shut down the internet with 'kill switch' Read mo

    Facism lives!

    Remember, the more desperately they try to control us, the closer they are to losing control. Earth changes are coming and there's nothing they can do to stop it.

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    Default Re: Obama to be given the right to shut down the internet with 'kill switch' Read mo

    Quote Posted by Jonathon (here)
    . . . As far as taking the internet down. That's GREAT news - talk about a mass wake-up event. Washington will be nothing but 7 bricks and 1/2 a charred monument inside of a week.
    LOVED this comment! Of course you're right! What's interesting is the Liebermann's of this slimy world aren't showing an equivalent concern for shutting down the garbage spewed daily into people's homes via television. That is a nicely controlled contrivance owned and operated almost exclusively by the PTWannabes. The internet? Not so! This is a worldwide phenomenon that allows people of all races, creeds, beliefs and cultures to be linked together in completely non-controllable ways. THAT's what bugs the hell out of them.

    The internet is a lot like Pandora's box. Once opened it's gonna be close to impossible to pack it all back in.

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    Default Re: Obama to be given the right to shut down the internet with 'kill switch' Read mo

    Quote Posted by Jonathon (here)
    As far as taking the internet down. That's GREAT news - talk about a mass wake-up event. Washington will be nothing but 7 bricks and 1/2 a charred monument inside of a week.
    That's why they won't take it down ... but with new technology of Internet 2.0 they can selectively slow down or shut of certain sites, parts of the internet or types of connections. They are not stupid.
    The masses can still watch all the rubbish ... they know how to avoid revolution ... (it will happen anyway of course).

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    Default Re: Obama to be given the right to shut down the internet with 'kill switch' Read mo

    Quote Posted by Operator (here)
    That's why they won't take it down ... but with new technology of Internet 2.0 they can selectively slow down or shut of certain sites, parts of the internet or types of connections. They are not stupid.
    The masses can still watch all the rubbish ... they know how to avoid revolution ... (it will happen anyway of course).
    I don't think web 2.0 will work in their preferred "free market" economy EXCEPT in countries that have only one ISP available to them. It would be close to impossible for them to get ALL ISPs to move toward Web 2 simultaneously. If that is not accomplished, folks will simply terminate their service with the Web 2 ISP that is denying them universal access and hop over to those that continue universal access. That means lost revenue for the ones who comply. AOL is an excellent example of this. AOL had a model that interposed their technology between the user and direct access to the web. It didn't take long for the business plan to get exposed and for hundreds of thousands of users to quit the AOL accounts for direct access accounts. AOL never recovered financially from the mass defections.

    I agree the PTB want that level of control. However it's far more difficult to constrain AFTER THE FACT than it is to do so BEFORE the fact. In any event, what would they do with 'youtube" and other exceedingly popular services equivalent to "youtube?"

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    Cool Obama Issues Executive Order Mandating “Lifestyle Behavior Modification”



    According to the Executive Order that details the President’s “National Prevention and Health Promotion Strategy,” the Council will be charged with carrying out ” lifestyle behavior modification” among American citizens that do not exhibit “healthy behavior.”

    The President’s desired lifestyle behavior modifications detailed in Sec. 6 (c) focus on:

    * smoking cessation;
    * proper nutrition;
    * appropriate exercise;
    * mental health;
    * behavioral health;
    * sedentary behavior (see Sec. 3 [c]);
    * substance-use disorder; and
    * domestic violence screenings.

    Making matters even worse, if that is even possible at this point, President Obama will create an “Advisory Group” composed of experts hand-picked from the public health field and various other areas of expertise “outside the Federal Government.”

    Read more here:
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    Default Re: Obama Issues Executive Order Mandating “Lifestyle Behavior Modification”

    ok, so to play the devil's advocate...

    what is wrong with helping people get back to a healthy lifestyle... everyone is always saying they need to do it... but always seem to never get around to doing it... (like all those New Year's resolutions we all hear about but never see the results of...)

    maybe some of the sheeples need an extra push in the right direction???

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    Default Re: Obama Issues Executive Order Mandating “Lifestyle Behavior Modification”

    I'm pretty sure these means we're all going to be force-fed broccoli.
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    Default Re: Obama Issues Executive Order Mandating “Lifestyle Behavior Modification”

    A healthy lifestyle means you will be required to vaccinate and take prescription drugs. That's the only answer they have to health.

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    Default Re: Obama Issues Executive Order Mandating “Lifestyle Behavior Modification”

    "The scariest thing about being free is, you have to allow the same freedom for everyone else, or its just a farce." - Fred

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    Default Re: Obama Issues Executive Order Mandating “Lifestyle Behavior Modification”

    You know 40 million americans are on food stamps to get their food. For the rest of us that do not live off the government but only pay for all that they are doing I certainley don't need any help in my lifestyle department in life.

    Gee now I need an advisory group of people I don't even know to tell me too?

    How about dealing with more important issues like sealing off our borders first, setting up an immigration program for those who are here. This would help curb crime, financial burdens to the state and hospials and make our country healthier.

    Setting up a program to curb fraud in the medicare system.More money for other worthy causes.

    Stem the flow of lawsuits on medical suits.Hey this will lower insurance premiums for docs, many in private practice.

    Cover the terminally ill immediately for health care like so many politicians said they would only to use these ill people as poster people to further the cause of national health care and now that it is approved, hey terminally ill thanks for your service and your still not covered and if you die, oh well I got mine, right?

    Update us with a plan for the oil spill, getting out of iraq and afganistan, didn't someone pledge to get us out of there. Am I missing something or did we pass go without rolling the dice.

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    Default What in God's good name is Obama doing.

    Absolutely nothing as far as the oil spill is concerned.

    He cancelled his plans to travel to Australia recently citing the disaster of the oil spill. Well, what are you doing about it Mr President, nothing. Wildlife have died terribly, coastline and wetlands ruined, everything still suffering and you go out there and look at it and say oh yeah its bad we are going to clean this up and you have done sweet ..................all.

    And Wilcock says your a white hat.....................I hear not only Obama is a 33rd degree mason but also has shares in swine flu vaccine. He has been prepped and recruited for this job by tptb probably from university. Took the easiest road.

    The elite probably thought he would be a good option by certain sections of the community because he would help them......................................wrong.

    DW please explain.

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