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    Default Re: "The Ron Paul Tipping Point"..!

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    Just remember people, voting got us all into this mess, trying to get out with the same method doesn't seem to be real smart to me.
    What are you suggesting Sid? Do nothing..?

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    I think that backing Ron Paul is good for awakening people, just don't expect much from the process used to put the shackles on your wrists and ankles.
    What happened to the Fighting Irish inya Sid?

    Sounds like to me, you have given up already?

    My suggestion to all Americans who want their Country back from the NWO Globalists is to get involved in Ron Paul's campaign any way you can!

    You WILL NOT get another chance at Liberty if he doesn't win in 2012...

    Yes, they may have Rigged Diebold Electronic Voting Machines but if Ron Paul wins in a LANDSLIDE, no Electronic Voting Machine can stop it!

    ...and if they try to Railroad the election in favour of one of their Puppets?

    That's what the 2nd Amendment is for..!

    There are more ways than your way jackonugget.
    Just because I don't agree with you doesn't not equate with giving up.
    If you wanna vote, do it, just don't expect others to do that if that is not their ''thing.''
    And don't accuse people of going soft or giving up, I think I have more fight in me than ten jackonuggets, but that is my opinion.
    Your right Sid, that is YOUR Opinion...

    ...nevertheless What are some of your Alternative Methods..?

    Please furnish us with some of your Acumen...

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    Default Re: "The Ron Paul Tipping Point"..!

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    Just remember people, voting got us all into this mess, trying to get out with the same method doesn't seem to be real smart to me.
    What are you suggesting Sid? Do nothing..?

    Quote Posted by Lord Sidious (here)
    I think that backing Ron Paul is good for awakening people, just don't expect much from the process used to put the shackles on your wrists and ankles.
    What happened to the Fighting Irish inya Sid?

    Sounds like to me, you have given up already?

    My suggestion to all Americans who want their Country back from the NWO Globalists is to get involved in Ron Paul's campaign any way you can!

    You WILL NOT get another chance at Liberty if he doesn't win in 2012...

    Yes, they may have Rigged Diebold Electronic Voting Machines but if Ron Paul wins in a LANDSLIDE, no Electronic Voting Machine can stop it!

    ...and if they try to Railroad the election in favour of one of their Puppets?

    That's what the 2nd Amendment is for..!

    There are more ways than your way jackonugget.
    Just because I don't agree with you doesn't not equate with giving up.
    If you wanna vote, do it, just don't expect others to do that if that is not their ''thing.''
    And don't accuse people of going soft or giving up, I think I have more fight in me than ten jackonuggets, but that is my opinion.
    Your right Sid, that is YOUR Opinion...

    ...nevertheless What are some of your Alternative Methods..?

    Please furnish us with some of your Acumen...
    You do recall asking me this before?
    And getting an answer?
    Go back and read that and stop grandstanding over something that neither of us have a part of.

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    Default Re: "The Ron Paul Tipping Point"..!

    I say let's put out landing beacons for the incoming Enki faction fleet then let the chips fall where they may ...


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    Default Re: "The Ron Paul Tipping Point"..!

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    Just remember people, voting got us all into this mess, trying to get out with the same method doesn't seem to be real smart to me.
    What are you suggesting Sid? Do nothing..?

    Quote Posted by Lord Sidious (here)
    I think that backing Ron Paul is good for awakening people, just don't expect much from the process used to put the shackles on your wrists and ankles.
    What happened to the Fighting Irish inya Sid?

    Sounds like to me, you have given up already?

    My suggestion to all Americans who want their Country back from the NWO Globalists is to get involved in Ron Paul's campaign any way you can!

    You WILL NOT get another chance at Liberty if he doesn't win in 2012...

    Yes, they may have Rigged Diebold Electronic Voting Machines but if Ron Paul wins in a LANDSLIDE, no Electronic Voting Machine can stop it!

    ...and if they try to Railroad the election in favour of one of their Puppets?

    That's what the 2nd Amendment is for..!

    There are more ways than your way jackonugget.
    Just because I don't agree with you doesn't not equate with giving up.
    If you wanna vote, do it, just don't expect others to do that if that is not their ''thing.''
    And don't accuse people of going soft or giving up, I think I have more fight in me than ten jackonuggets, but that is my opinion.
    Your right Sid, that is YOUR Opinion...

    ...nevertheless What are some of your Alternative Methods..?

    Please furnish us with some of your Acumen...
    You do recall asking me this before?
    And getting an answer?
    Go back and read that and stop grandstanding over something that neither of us have a part of.
    Quote Something that neither of us have a part of?
    I beg to differ Sid, we all have a part in fighting the NWO Globalists even if we are on the other side of the world...

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    Default Re: "The Ron Paul Tipping Point"..!

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    Just remember people, voting got us all into this mess, trying to get out with the same method doesn't seem to be real smart to me.
    What are you suggesting Sid? Do nothing..?

    Quote Posted by Lord Sidious (here)
    I think that backing Ron Paul is good for awakening people, just don't expect much from the process used to put the shackles on your wrists and ankles.
    What happened to the Fighting Irish inya Sid?

    Sounds like to me, you have given up already?

    My suggestion to all Americans who want their Country back from the NWO Globalists is to get involved in Ron Paul's campaign any way you can!

    You WILL NOT get another chance at Liberty if he doesn't win in 2012...

    Yes, they may have Rigged Diebold Electronic Voting Machines but if Ron Paul wins in a LANDSLIDE, no Electronic Voting Machine can stop it!

    ...and if they try to Railroad the election in favour of one of their Puppets?

    That's what the 2nd Amendment is for..!

    There are more ways than your way jackonugget.
    Just because I don't agree with you doesn't not equate with giving up.
    If you wanna vote, do it, just don't expect others to do that if that is not their ''thing.''
    And don't accuse people of going soft or giving up, I think I have more fight in me than ten jackonuggets, but that is my opinion.
    Your right Sid, that is YOUR Opinion...

    ...nevertheless What are some of your Alternative Methods..?

    Please furnish us with some of your Acumen...
    You do recall asking me this before?
    And getting an answer?
    Go back and read that and stop grandstanding over something that neither of us have a part of.
    Quote Something that neither of us have a part of?
    I beg to differ Sid, we all have a part in fighting the NWO Globalists even if we are on the other side of the world...
    I agree with your statement.
    I didn't explain myself well enough.
    Neither of us are enrolled to vote there and even if I were, I wouldn't put any eggs in the election basket.
    Electoral fraud is a way of doing things there just as much as it is in australia.
    Hence my statement, voting got us into this mess and thinking it will get us out isn't smart thinking.
    Those who control the system have more pawns ready to take the vacated seats and the pawns wear all different party names.

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    Default Re: "The Ron Paul Tipping Point"..!

    I'm planning to Write In Ron Paul if he's is not on the ballot come 2012.

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    Default Re: "The Ron Paul Tipping Point"..!

    It is a shame that Ron Paul isn't getting the coverage he deserves, but that doesn't take away from the fact that he does have a very good chance at winning.

    When it all boils down I can't see much changing. We have to remember,the globalists have been planning this from day dot, so there is no way that a new Prisident, no matter how well intentioned, is going to be able to do this single handedly. Even if he has the backing of the voters, if he doesn't have the numbers where it couts, nothing is going to get through.

    Having said that, I want him to win, jsut to see the old bloke have a crack at the big time. He deserves nothing less. I want to see him try and take down the fed from the position of el presidente

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    I hope Ron Paul gives up on being President and runs for mayor of San Francisco. We love him here. And the weather is nicer.
    "We sit together, the mountain and me, until only the mountain remains." -Li Po

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    Default Re: "The Ron Paul Tipping Point"..!

    Well ... fwiw ... having obama elected running on a platform of bring the troops home was essentially the voice of the people speaking.

    Obviously that isn't how it turned out ... but spoke of the people's wishes after the bush fiasco.

    Same sort of idea for RP. Even if he gets elected despite playing against a stacked deck ... who knows how much he could do when in office.

    At least AS THINGS NOW STAND ... and have in the past.

    There is "change in the air" at this the "end of the cycle" and PERHAPS we can create a new reality???

    If we the people are the ones "creating reality" then that truly would be "change you can believe in" ...

    Gonna take something outside of the box though ... something totally new (perhaps with the support of our benevolent friends in the sky ... although we should do all we can ourselves because this is the mess we created and our responsibility to clean it up).

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    Quote Posted by Whiskey_Mystic (here)
    I hope Ron Paul gives up on being President and runs for mayor of San Francisco. We love him here. And the weather is nicer.
    Much better for his health too I would suspect ...
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    Default Ron Paul clobbers former Texas 'Cheerleader' in Latest Poll..!

    Ron Paul clobbers Rick Perry in latest poll

    Texas Rep. Ron Paul is well ahead of Texas governor Rick Perry, according to the latest poll.

    A poll conduced by Azimuth Research Group finds Mr. Paul leading Mr. Perry in their home state of Texas.

    Answering the question, “If the Texas Republican primary were held today, which presidential candidate would you be most likely to vote for?”

    22 percent of those polled selected Mr. Paul. Just 17 percent of respondents voted in favor of Mr. Perry.

    The poll comes just days after Mr. Perry announced his intention to seek the Republican presidential nomination. The Texas Republican governor had hinted at an entry earlier this year, testing levels of support for his candidacy.

    Meanwhile, Mr. Paul, who is facing a surge of support and attention after criticizing the media for downplaying his campaign, spent much of the weekend slamming his Republican opponents.

    The Texas congressman, who finished second to Minnesota Rep. Michele Bachmann in last weekend’s Iowa straw poll, highlights his votes against “every tax increase, every unbalanced budget” and proclaims he is the candidate who “will stop the spending, save the dollar, create jobs” and “bring peace.”

    Speaking earlier in the week, Mr. Paul lambasted Mr. Perry, saying the Texas Republican is an extension of the Republican establishment.

    “[Governor Perry] is getting into the race, I think, doesn’t bother me at all, obviously because he pretty much represents the status quo. And the other candidates, in one way or the other, are part of the status quo. And I represent something different,” Mr. Paul said.

    http://www.thestatecolumn.com/articl...n-latest-poll/

    PS - Most Americans are just now learning that Al Gores former Campaign Manager, Bilderberger and ex-Cheerleader Rick Perry is the NWO Globalist's Pick of the Puppets for the Republican Nomination for the 2012 Presidency!



    Please America, Not ANOTHER CHEERLEADER for President..!




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    Default Re: "The Ron Paul Tipping Point"..!

    American presidents are 'selected' not 'elected'.
    That is why Ron Paul will never become president of the US, despite the fact that I (and many others like me worldwide) would love to see him in the oval office.
    The fact is, the elites who are responsible for selecting American presidents would never allow him to win the election because they know that once he got into the White House they wouldn't be able to buy him off or control him.
    Ron Paul is a man of integrity and principles, that much is obvious to anyone who listens to him speak.
    The elites can't afford to have a guy like Ron Paul sitting in the White House as it would be very detrimental to the success of their various ongoing plans and agendas.
    That is why the elites are going do do everything in their power to make sure Ron Paul doesn't get elected.
    The power, control and influence these elites have over American society is substantial and they will do whatever it takes to make sure "their guy" gets in... not Ron Paul.
    So, you can expect mainstream media (owned/controlled by the elites) to give Ron Paul very little attention.
    Unless of course the elites attempt to run some kind of smear campaign against him as a last resort in the event that his popularity begins to rise and he starts to look like a serious threat... in which case that (smear) campaign will receive PLENTY of attention.

    As I said in the beginning, I'd personally love to see Ron Paul elected as president... I just think it is a very unlikely outcome.
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    Default Re: "The Ron Paul Tipping Point"..!

    Thanks for ALL the comments so far...

    including you Sid

    "A Journey without a Destination becomes an Aimless wandering"

    Quote Most people go through life aimlessly. They generate few if any destinations and just take what life thrusts upon them. Their lives become a chaotic response to the winds and forces around them and they feel like tumbleweeds caught in a storm, or stuck in a corner somewhere. They fall into ruts with little satisfaction and even less confidence. They don’t feel like they have accomplished much, and this leads to low self-esteem. Too many people act and feel like victims because they feel their journey without a destination was not fair. This leads to frustrations, jaded attitudes, feelings of incompetence, and feelings of lost control.

    Just the sort of thing the NWO Globalists are counting on..!
    I am an 'Optermist', and correct me if I am wrong my American friends there is a Huge Groundswell of Support for Ron Paul. Gaining Momentum at a Rapid pace.

    The Lies & Deciept of the NWO Globalists is catching up to them quicker than most realize!

    So, I will stick with my Opinion that Ron Paul can Win in 2012..!

    Regardless of the Obsticles, the NWO Globalists and the MSM put in his way!
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    Quote Posted by D-DAY (here)

    As I said in the beginning, I'd personally love to see Ron Paul elected as president... I just think it is a very unlikely outcome.
    Just remember. We outnumber them a million to one. I don't mean in bodies. I mean in consciousness. So, it's still our choice. And they know it. The ball is always in our court. And they know that too.
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    Quote Posted by Lord Sidious (here)
    Just remember people, voting got us all into this mess, trying to get out with the same method doesn't seem to be real smart to me.
    I think that backing Ron Paul is good for awakening people, just don't expect much from the process used to put the shackles on your wrists and ankles.
    My dear Sid. I think you will agree....the system is what we make it. All things are. Shackles or wings. We decide. What the system has been in the past is irrelevant. We can make it what we want. Or we can make it what we don't.

    If we don't expect much from the process, then that is what we will get.
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    Default Re: "The Ron Paul Tipping Point"..!

    Quote Posted by Whiskey_Mystic (here)
    Quote Posted by D-DAY (here)

    As I said in the beginning, I'd personally love to see Ron Paul elected as president... I just think it is a very unlikely outcome.
    Just remember. We outnumber them a million to one. I don't mean in bodies. I mean in consciousness. So, it's still our choice. And they know it. The ball is always in our court. And they know that too.
    I am fully aware of/and completely understand the point you are making here, it is a valid one.
    I agree that it is we, the people. who truly hold the majority of power in this relationship we have with the controllers - if only more people would realise that fact
    But unless something happens to awaken the human collective consciousness en masse then we are always going to be left to play the game by "their" rules, which ultimately means "they" win every time.
    I would love nothing more than to see the balance of power shifted so that we could finally experience TRUE freedom and sovereignty.
    I sense that the day of reckoning for the elites is fast approaching, I only hope that it comes sooner rather than later.

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    Default Re: "The Ron Paul Tipping Point"..!

    Quote Posted by Whiskey_Mystic (here)
    Quote Posted by Lord Sidious (here)
    Just remember people, voting got us all into this mess, trying to get out with the same method doesn't seem to be real smart to me.
    I think that backing Ron Paul is good for awakening people, just don't expect much from the process used to put the shackles on your wrists and ankles.
    My dear Sid. I think you will agree....the system is what we make it. All things are. Shackles or wings. We decide. What the system has been in the past is irrelevant. We can make it what we want. Or we can make it what we don't.

    I we don't expect much from the process, then that is what we will get.
    The system is there for a reason and that reason would prevent what you say, that our combined wills can change it.
    The reason it is there is to sift.
    Sift the nuggets from the sediment.
    That being the case, if we changed it, it would cease to sift.

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    Default Re: "The Ron Paul Tipping Point"..!

    This Ron Paul sure seems to say all the right things.
    One thing i don,t agree on is his position on no social security.
    I believe we all should have a security net for old age, it is sometimes the difference between food or dog food for the elderly.
    Those people that abuse or take advantage of the social system, well, they have to live with themselves, it,s thier conceince.

    The American election is over a year away, and they,re going at it pretty good already.
    I can,t help but wonder what they are keeping everyones attention from.

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    Default Re: "The Ron Paul Tipping Point"..!

    If the USA falls so do we. It is in our best interest and in the interest of all the world to support the awakening of the people not only in our own counrty but also in the USA.

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    Quote Posted by loveandgratitude (here)
    If the USA falls so do we. It is in our best interest and in the interest of all the world to support the awakening of the people not only in our own counrty but also in the USA.
    I disagree, the sooner the united states coporation fails, the sooner the others do too.
    THEN, we can move on.
    It is in the best interests of the peoples of the world that the united states corporation fails asap.

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    When I speak of falling, I mean falling into the hands of the tyrants and wanna be kings and queens traitors and out of the hands of the people who should be free of these traitors.

    Ignorance and Freedom are diametrically opposed

    As Ignorance goes up Freedom goes down

    As Knowledge goes Up and Ignorance goes down

    Freedom goes up.

    There is no easy way out of this mess, except through learning and applying this knowledge.

    This is what wisdom is, understanding wisdom, applying knowledge and acting upon it.

    KNOWLEDGE UNDERSTANDING AND WISDOM.

    It is not too late to reverse this situation if only people are willing to learn and get out of ignorance. The information was there all along and the people choose willingly not to look at it. This is the causual factor that has brought about the situation that we face today. To solve these problems the people must come up to a higher understanding to change things. THe people consciouness has to be raised to a sufficent level to overcome tyranny.


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