Soul harvester

[wynderer]

Posted by Carmody (here)
One point is that the doorway fits all -- but the path is individual.

And all we can try and do is communicate.

I've been on the net since long before the net existed via the BBS's and the news and user groups, and beginning with 2400 baud modems. Etc. In all that time one thing I learned is that there will be people whom a given person cannot easily communicate with in written form and have it be meaningful for both parties. And I started out as an ignorant and combative individual in those communications. So I did learn something of use, I hope. There is no substitute for face to face communications, even if all it does is finalize or complete 'Nolo contendere' situations sooner - rather than later.

As for ego breakdown to clear the mind that happens right about when the fear of death is so strong and so deep that it/you feels that it's death -or a 'clearing' of sorts. Right at the full breakdown point. As literal and as real as is possible. This is why the Buddhists teach one-on-one, as it's a precarious undertaking at best. You have to want it as much as you want life itself. More, actually. And it can't be faked, ie you can't fake yourself out. The ego is a wily little barsteward.

As for manifestation of actual energies, it follows the same lines of mental construct as the ego issue.

As for any 'Johnny Wishbone: Psychic Extraordinaire', (x-files episode) stories I may share, I'm not all that impressed either.

Have you ever seen the film 'Dark City?' An interesting film. Humanity besieged by an occupying and manipulating race-on all levels. This tune is based on the film.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=ll81rnHjMnA

OK, Carmody -- i think you are just very unique in how you see things, & are walking a very different path from mine -- sorry if i sounded judgmental -- i think you care about others & work to help -- but i do find you very difficult to understand

[Chakra]

Posted by Steven (here)
It is indeed based upon personal observation of the Universal Laws and Principles that rules all Creation.

What 'Laws' please would you be referring to here, with out elaborating, it implies that I should also be aware of them. Which I am not. We may not have read the same 'Book of Laws'. Please clarify.

Victimhood consciousness is a dynamic type of human behaviour : savior / victim / oppressor. You can see it in individual or in collectivity. The reading of the New Paradigm series might help you to understand my point of view.

I agree in some instances it is very dynamic and yes it can be individual or collectively but it can not be used as a framing metaphor for all events. That is much to simplistic - to easy to explain away, something that is as controversial and as traumatic to its experiencers as this can be.

I will check out the book you speak of. But just briefly where does the concept of soul loss and soul theft fit in to a 'victimhood consciousness'? Especially when the person (child or infant) is not even aware of what is happening. Does not even possess, emotionally or even consciously, the concepts of right or wrong, victim / saviour etc.
Frankly this rational sounds more like fear based intellectualizations of an event that is to difficult to explore.

It is not based on hopes, but rather on observation and application in my personal life.

So with out sounding to confrontational which is not my intent - I am to assume you also feel that 'observation and application' is a superior view to hold over actual experience? The theoretical or observational placed in a position of metaphor supersedes a persons reality? And that the relating of all that have such experiences are on the verge of religious paranoia? Nothing from my experience or those that I talked about had any mention of anything remotely connected to any form of religious doctrine. Nor anyone else's that I have read so far.

But would that not be a similar analogy to a man telling a women how a pregnancy should feel like, or what it will feel like to be a Mother? Or a priest telling a couple how to have a great sex life?

Victimhood consciousness is filled up from bottom to top in each large religion. How the concept of sin is used by the leaders of the large monotheist religion is a good example of how victim consciousness is perperpetrated.

Hmm - didn't notice any mention by anyone that this was about sin either. Again not seeing a connection. Just about the fact that there is more to us, like our souls, than just DNA that the grays want. Our DNA 46 Chromo. is basic stuff in comparison to even the DNA of a fern at over 600 pairs

"Ophioglossum reticulatum, a species of fern, has the largest number of chromosomes (thread-like bodies in a cell's nucleus that hold the genes) with more than1,260(630 pairs)."

So what else is there that makes us so damn appealing and hated at the same time? But the potential to gain real immortality through the creators of this galaxy - cloning obviously has it limitations.

"Soul harvesting is also spread out all over the Bible, especially in the apocalypse and it is a metaphora, in my opinion, like many other concept in the book. The is no sign at all, other than stories that I find on the verge of paranoia, to point out that there is indeed a literal harvesting of the souls. It all wraps up into comprehensible understanding when you look at it from the metaphora point of view. Namaste, Steven

I am thinking you might referring to the parable 'harvesting the tares from the wheat'?

But nope - if that is the case it is not what I thought we had been talking about either. That is as I understand a reference to the genetics of fallen angels along side the genetics of the sons and daughters of God. Nothing about sin here either, just basic genetics, even a slightly different species. Not religious doctrine really as it technically originates from the Book of Enoch - which was also eventually a banned book. This was a parable by Jesus so the souls of light would be aware of the presence of those that perpetuate the lie, the poison of the tare.
We all know who they are, and they know we know.

[wynderer]

Posted by Renee (here)
What 'Laws' please would you be referring to here, with out elaborating, it implies that I should also be aware of them. Which I am not. We may not have read the same 'Book of Laws'. Please clarify.



I agree in some instances it is very dynamic and yes it can be individual or collectively but it can not be used as a framing metaphor for all events. That is much to simplistic - to easy to explain away, something that is as controversial and as traumatic to its experiencers as this can be.

I will check out the book you speak of. But just briefly where does the concept of soul loss and soul theft fit in to a 'victimhood consciousness'? Especially when the person (child or infant) is not even aware of what is happening. Does not even possess, emotionally or even consciously, the concepts of right or wrong, victim / saviour etc.
Frankly this rational sounds more like fear based intellectualizations of an event that is to difficult to explore.



So with out sounding to confrontational which is not my intent - I am to assume you also feel that 'observation and application' is a superior view to hold over actual experience? The theoretical or observational placed in a position of metaphor supersedes a persons reality? And that the relating of all that have such experiences are on the verge of religious paranoia? Nothing from my experience or those that I talked about had any mention of anything remotely connected to any form of religious doctrine. Nor anyone else's that I have read so far.

But would that not be a similar analogy to a man telling a women how a pregnancy should feel like, or what it will feel like to be a Mother? Or a priest telling a couple how to have a great sex life?



Hmm - didn't notice any mention by anyone that this was about sin either. Again not seeing a connection. Just about the fact that there is more to us, like our souls, than just DNA that the grays want. Our DNA 46 Chromo. is basic stuff in comparison to even the DNA of a fern at over 600 pairs

"Ophioglossum reticulatum, a species of fern, has the largest number of chromosomes (thread-like bodies in a cell's nucleus that hold the genes) with more than1,260(630 pairs)."

So what else is there that makes us so damn appealing and hated at the same time? But the potential to gain real immortality through the creators of this galaxy - cloning obviously has it limitations.



I am thinking you might referring to the parable 'harvesting the tares from the wheat'?

But nope - if that is the case it is not what I thought we had been talking about either. That is as I understand a reference to the genetics of fallen angels along side the genetics of the sons and daughters of God. Nothing about sin here either, just basic genetics, even a slightly different species. Not religious doctrine really as it technically originates from the Book of Enoch - which was also eventually a banned book. This was a parable by Jesus so the souls of light would be aware of the presence of those that perpetuate the lie, the poison of the tare.
We all know who they are, and they know we know.

YOU GO, GIRL!!! i'm probably leaving the net & this forum today -- it's good to know that there are some like you & lightblue & RedeZra & Beren in his quiet way, & others, who have the courage to see things as they are & post about it -- carry on the Good Fight!

[Carmody]

Posted by Renee (here)
Hmm - didn't notice any mention by anyone that this was about sin either. Again not seeing a connection. Just about the fact that there is more to us, like our souls, than just DNA that the grays want. Our DNA 46 Chromo. is basic stuff in comparison to even the DNA of a fern at over 600 pairs

"Ophioglossum reticulatum, a species of fern, has the largest number of chromosomes (thread-like bodies in a cell's nucleus that hold the genes) with more than1,260(630 pairs)."

So what else is there that makes us so damn appealing and hated at the same time? But the potential to gain real immortality through the creators of this galaxy - cloning obviously has it limitations.



I am thinking you might referring to the parable 'harvesting the tares from the wheat'?

But nope - if that is the case it is not what I thought we had been talking about either. That is as I understand a reference to the genetics of fallen angels along side the genetics of the sons and daughters of God. Nothing about sin here either, just basic genetics, even a slightly different species. Not religious doctrine really as it technically originates from the Book of Enoch - which was also eventually a banned book. This was a parable by Jesus so the souls of light would be aware of the presence of those that perpetuate the lie, the poison of the tare.
We all know who they are, and they know we know.

Of course with a base 46 kinda number, the the sum total of possible configurations can be staggering. Even if you remove any repeats. The thing about the fern, is I've no idea the number of doubles or repeats, or if the 600 are arranged in a interesting way or not.

Those thoughts and questions cannot be answered by anyone but someone that is involved in those fields and their answer will be colored via their orientation and knowledge base, same as anyone else.

My comment then produces doubt in the mind of any given reader as to whether the 600 vs 46 actually means something or not . It has done so in a direction that allows someone to regain their balance if they indeed 'feel' (a more base aspect of the semi-conscious ego function) that the 600 as a number of some sort denotes the human emotion of feeling less than a fern vs feeling as more than a fern, the latter being their usual mental space.

I'm not attempting to announce superiority over that of a fern, but to allow the readers of the thread to regain or maintain some sort of balance. When that is measured against the overall thrust of the thread, it can at least be seen as humorous.

I also caution the reader to consider that the god bits of the protection or shielding of the self could be seen as a simple mental preparation technique, I not feeling that the invocation of god is superior or inferior to that of a self invoked (or other denoted god principle, position, or internal mechanism) position. Ie invoke the mantra/routine that works for you and do your best to realize that is the specific and individual case of invocation or act when in the given place or situation. To a certain extent, in the realm of psycho-analysis of the self, any thrust of truths upon others, even if it be innocent, is an attempt to utilize either knowingly or unknowingly, the pathways of the ego structure - in order to cement one's personal views on reality from being destroyed or demoted in the self, due to being reflected by the psychology of others.

In many ways, this is the crux of the matter..as in the astral realms I spoke of how it seems as if the power of human imagination is one of the big things we seem to have over that of the more literal reptilians and similar. Imagination is part of the power of creation, whereas determinance is the strength of the reptilian types when it comes to manifestation. Their absolute surety in themselves is part of their determinance and strength. Ie, they suffer no doubt, and this is part and parcel of their strength in astral and otherwise 'manifestation'. It is also their Achilles heel when it comes to dealing with humans. Humans being filled with the capacity to create in astral realms due to their capacity for imagination. But the other side of the coin is that we can be captured in doubt and fears, the antithesis of imagination and love. Doubt....due to a myriad of possibilities in unknowns.

Our very imagination is what causes us to not make decisions of surety. Our capacity to interpret what we see or 'think we see'. This is our Achilles heel which the reptilian types and our very own local and 'real world' humans use to manipulate us by and through.

Therefore, it becomes obvious that maintaining a state of ignorance in mankind is literally what freezes us into inaction - like a deer in the headlights.

Thus the motto of the PTB....'Order through Chaos'.

Understanding that one point is critical to orienting one's mind to the core aspect of the problem at hand. Within the scope of questions and answers, the concept is that the perfect question actually does in reality, define the scope, shape, and placement of the answer. This is part of the critical process of understanding exactly where one stands when attempting to deal with these questions and their myriad possibilities due to not enough information being available for the answer to appear 'in absolute terms' (ego function!)....for the bulk of humanity.....so that bulk may consider directions.

One aspect is that we attempt to impose surety in our individual position and then send that package out to others..in order to have a perfect reflection come back at us from the other, so we can then believe in ourselves, emotionally.

My main thrust has always been to attempt to embark on instilling the capacity for clear-headed discernment into the individual who may be reading what I tippity-tap on my keyboard. This, rather than stating 'my specific truth'. Even though, as a human who integrates with others on the ego level for the most part (unavoidable), I can be as guilty of this as anyone else. One way of maintaining things in an aura of comfortable communications that have a positive effect on others.. is to always add in the aspect where the view or position has conditions (in the 'statements' or positions) as being potentials as opposed to specific truths or facts.


So, please consider : Imagination is deeply tied to empathy and love and sharing, this is an important point to consider. Whereas absolute determinance is an aspect of fear and ego. Each has an Achilles heel that the other can be manipulated or deflected by or through. You do have a Swiss army knife of a response capacity. Learn what it is -- and begin using it.

In the case of determinance, that of what 'controlled tribal religions' put in front of you, determinance assuages doubt in man and gives comfort to the ego structure, the part you need to shed, remember? (very important). It is also part of the reptilian and similar astral presence, thus denoting their strength in those areas. As well, the PTB use doubt to raise fears and create inaction in 'this world'. ( David Icke calls this 'problem, reaction, solution')

On our side... of openness, love, and imagination, this denotes, literally, 'the power of creation' - in the astral realms and higher dimensions. This is the 'weapon' if you will, that the reptilians and similar and the PTB fear, the core of their Achilles heel. We have the power to create fear for ourselves, if we are not careful, so we must use this imagination to create better realities. Once we realize that we can use this gift to create our freedom, then we will be closer to actually realizing that freedom. As opposed to realizing our fears.

Once again, this comes down to defining the scope and shape of the question that is in front of us, individually... so we can individually move closer to seeing and knowing the true shape of the answer.

The answer for me, is the 'oh' of realizing the intensity of my own personal capacity for manifestation through the powers of utilizing the imagination for the creation of realities, and due to that single viewpoint.... creating my own power and strength in astral realms and connections to higher dimensions.

To lose the doubt of the ego that is influencing and destroying my capacity to manifest. But the loss of the ego must be real. The ego must be addressed. This is critical function to reaching this end. Recall that manifestation in this realm is tied directly to the balancing of the rational mind (determinance-left hemisphere) and that of the lateral mind or creative mind (imagination, right brain) ..and the important bit..THROUGH the combined forces as they interact in the base join point of the human vehicle for interaction, the brain. And that point is the cortex, or reptilian part of the mind. That point where the ego emerges from, autonomous function of sex drive, survival, food, etc. Fear, lust, greed, the others --what have you.

Please recall that I have given you enough ammunition to see that is is indeed moving into scientific fact as to the human nervous system being mulit-dimensional and thus a dimensional doorway for energies and actions. David Hudson measuring the 'monatomics' in nerve tissue, as being as high as 5% mass. Do I mean that 5% of my brain is superconducting inter-dimensional materials that have not been recognized though western spectroscopic analysis methodology?? Yes, 1000% yes. Put a gun to my head, I still say yes. What you eat and how you act, think, feel and alter your endocrine and chemical system in the body changes the charge state of the internal monatomic materials. This will become clear as to why this is critical function.


Alchemists and ancients consuming this material to allow themselves to commit to actions of/in higher realms that manifest here and to manifest actions in higher realms..and to simply manifest themselves as a portal in multiple dimensions and..and thus become one with their higher selves and transcend this world. That is, in a nutshell the entire point of alchemy. Aliens, ie reptilians and grays (as servants, whatever) wanting to consume energized (fear, etc) humans as the vibrations of the energies they have invoked in us is what makes us 'tasty' for that specific moment. Both David Hudson and the alchemist stating flat out, over, and over, and over... the connection between our thoughts and actions when handling these monatomic materials (the blessing of water, etc) called ORMUS, ORME, the philosopher's stone, the white powder of gold, the manna of the gods, etc, etc. All the same thing. These materials being stated by the 'US naval academy of research' as being superconductive. Etc. etc. A note for you, is that superconductivity is outside of time and thus not 3-d trapped. But the powders do go inactive, the ones that are in our bodies. They must be 'charged' so they open the portal. The ancients, Hudson, the alchemists, and even the Nazis (they had their own radioactive versions of this stuff, see the works of Joseph Farrell) all found ways to charge the stuff. We can eat right, eat foods that are full of the stuff..and then think the right thoughts..but that can activate the materials to some degree, and this is enough for some of us to receive communication and commit to action through this multi-dimensional doorway for the astral body, the higher self and the physical body we occupy here. Or one can do things like make weak colloidal suspensions like near-monatomic silver, via a slow and low energy method of making it and thus charging it each and every day as the electrical charge imparted is part of the charging method and also part of the creation method for monatomics. The entire chemical and chemistry like conditionals of all of alchemy is specifically designed to do those exact things. The danger of alchemy is that it opens the doorway with the ego intact, thus the druids/Egyptian/ Babylonian, (fiat currency) component of the warring aspects of the PTB.


People desperately want 'real rubber on the ground'. The above bits and for that matter, all in this post - is real actual rubber on the ground and real connective tissue. Hardcore. Real.

Hopefully you can then realize that the chemical and body stressing of the body's system in fear -- is what 'gates' human nervous system created or 'enabled dimensional energies' into the realm of the reptile types, so they can consume it(?). Thus the stories by David Icke on human ritual sacrifices of pregnant women, etc. See the stories of Credo Mutwa on this subject.

Another physical fact is that the electrical charging of the materials was done by the Nazi's in a torsional manner ie, spinning a dual inner-outer torus in a specific orientation. Note that many of not all anti-gravity and similar craft and devices utilize this exact fluid energy manipulation tactic, in the form of magnet motors, John Hutchison's anti-gravity and mass manipulation- blending, Victor Schauberger's anti gravity devices, all similar.

Note that 'vortice points' (fancy that term, hmmm?) or grid points where multiple oscillating fields interact to form the becker-hagens grid on the earth....note that those points are considered to have reptilian, alien and human bases and similar either underground or underwater. The inter-dimensional doorway is opened within the human system in and on those locations. Note that the energetic spin of a pyramid placed as the top of a van-der-graff generator is a dual spiraled DNA form. Thus an interactive device for intelligence moving across dimensions and locales. Read about Russian success with pyramids in Russia, even today. Note that the US Naval Academy of Research also reported in another scientific study, through thorough and documented testing....that human DNA is superconductive and relates outside of time and space.

Note the back and forth that just occurred between Wynderer and I that supports every single point I've made here in this thread. Specifically that of being in the correct vortice point for accessing these latent and inherent talents that lie unrealized in the human system/vehicle. She's in the finger lakes area and the given 'shaped vortice' structure created brings about intense multi-dimensional interactive. Like the vertigo that I get when crossing a energy grid line but multiplied and constant.



However the ego and doubt (and lack of information) creates inaction, when tied to the ego's manifestation. For the ego knows that it's very existence in you may be torn down ..if you resort to actual actions. So... it sublimates your drive and direction through imposing inaction, through subconscious influence. If false drive is created in other ways and reasons, this is just as viable when it comes to helping the ego keep it's place in your life. Remember the ego is based on the edifice of the body's function and that includes primal emotions. Like (no- exactly in reality as) as a thin coat over the primal drive system, the mechanism that shapes the word and meaning choices of the internal subconscious creation of the voice in your head.

Recall the statement that the part of your mind that is realizing these shaped light differentials on a screen into words being spoken in your mind in your own internal voice is, in fact.... YOUR EGO. It is absolutely VITAL a critical function to completely deal with this point - as you can hopefully see how deep and powerful a grip the ego has on your every thought and interpretation of what reality actually is.



To stress the importance of such, I will relate one of the stories about the creation of mankind.

The story is one where mankind was created by committee of astral and dimensional travelers of a galactic group type organization. And that the reptilians asked to be making the cortex of the mind as part of the whole process - and were allowed to. And that they slipped in programming of this nature and of that of their type and ilk... and thus.... purposely created a vehicle for souls that they could control and sublimate....and a war began after that for the souls of the incarnated. Between the rest of the council and that of the reptilians.

I've no idea on that one myself, but when it comes to dealing with the ramifications of the cortex of the mind, the ego structure and the level on which it is interfering in our expression as higher souls through this vehicle we call a human, it is a vital potential or viewpoint to consider. Even if it is 100% bull, if allows one to thus embark on a true clearing of the self and sublimation of the ego's influence on the views and sights in the astral realms....and thus increases their surety of self in those areas...and thus increases one's capacity for self determination and manifestation (to lose the deeply interfering fear and doubt) ..then that, in my opinion, is as close enough to the truth of the matter as to be effective.......enough.


The only weapon, again, the only weapon the PTB, aliens, reptilians, what have you....can manipulate us through or by is the ego. Deal with the damn thing today, Please, for the love of God, for the love of man, for the love of life, for the love of existence and humanity, deal with your ego. Please.

And one, more time..the ego will do everything it can, including taking you to the point of physical death and even beyond, to make absolutely sure you never deal with it. In terms of influence in your life, for example, it uses fear to make you think that reptilians, PTB's, angels, demons, spirits, what have you -are more critical. Anything but the ego being front and center.

As you can see, as above - so below. As outside - so inside. The question begets the answer. The problem with the outside world is deep inside you. it is a case of first things first before moving on to the next thing.

Individually -the question must be addressed and answered, for all of mankind.

Now force yourself to get up and go do the dishes.

And in the process the ego will do it's damnedest to make sure your forget, as permanently as possible, everything you have just read.

[PurpleLama]

Posted by Carmody (here)

Posted by lightblue (here)
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carmody:

are you saying that the reason for this question/thread is preposterous? thanks l

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No.

But on the other hand, it's not something to worry about -in the estimation of many. Kind of like being on the plane you think is going to 'go down'. Everyone has that moment go through their head, every time they get on a plane.

The same day the Indonesian Tsunami happened, there were, in my estimation, about 4000 souls who could not cleanly 'make it back' so to speak. They had died in a moment of unending and extreme terror. Most could make it back, as they knew they were 'dead'. However, when something like that happens very fast and so many are involved, many can die and not know they are dead and continue living in the snapshot of their death. These were people who had no idea they were hit by a Tsunami, etc. all they knew is they were drowning, very suddenly and they were lost in the moment of terror. Those beings were ripe for harvesting, if such a thing does exist. However, no ghosts will be found on the shores of Indonesia, for I set them all free. The reason I did it, is to prevent the exact subject of this thread from occurring to them. I helped them understand that they were dead. That's a considerable number of panicked souls to handle so it was not done the better way, which is individual calming and then release. But it had to be done, so it was.

The commonality of their drowning and cultural background is what made a group release even possible.

I'm scared sh**less of what to do in situations involving thermonuclear devices, as that presents a very serious problem, potentially. However the terror factor (drowning) is unlikely to be as overwhelming an issue. It's not something I'd like to encounter, obviously.

In the event of atomics tearing up space and time, and the poor souls in range of the disturbance, the higher ups have to play damage control. Seems it would be too much for one on the ground playing double duty. Dealing with reorganizing a souls pattern isn't something I'd want to take on.


For the good of mankind, Bump.


I am not the only person that can attest to a lot of what gets said in here, be it hard to swallow. I personally like the gardening metaphor of soul development, so prefer the term harvest to the word ascension. Call it whatever you like, there's definitely something out of the ordinary with the days as they progress.

[Lord Sidious]

Posted by Wood (here)
Hi Ross,
Do you think we can be tricked to give our consent for being harvested by, for example, accepting to discard our ego and 'rejoin with our higher self'?

I would say that not only is it possible, it happens.
The first step is to make us forget who and what we are.
They they make us believe they are in charge, not us.
Then they give us ''things'' to keep us busy.
Then they have us where they want us, we have forgotten the whole picture.
But we can remember later and many of us out there are.

I have long had this sneaking suspicion that the ultimate goal of the power structure on this planet is the possession of the souls of those born here.
The entity at the top is a negative energy being and requires all of the negativity for its food, or for its plan to be realised.
If it is indeed enlil, that energy could be for many things, but this is all about our souls.
That is why we see such unbelievable atrocities and goings on at this time.

[PurpleLama]

and it's on the moon, there, sid.

oops, now I done it.

[Carmody]

Posted by PurpleLama (here)
and it's on the moon, there, sid.

oops, now I done it.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/18023776/P...nn-text-format

What that means, who knows.

But...there it is. Hmm.. exactly one year on this forum, for me, as well.

The link is for Ingo Swan's book, which before it was published at the supplied link, could command as much as $500 on ebay, with norms in the $250-350 range.

The book is about how he was hired to do psychic probing of the moon.

And what he found.

When it comes to known effective remote viewers..there's Ingo...and then everyone else. He's that good.

[ViralSpiral]

Posted by Lord Sidious (here)
The first step is to make us forget who and what we are.
They they make us believe they are in charge, not us.

Bit of a piss off factor actually. To have agreed to accept amnesia and participate in the harvest


Anyhoot, here I are......


Carmody, thanks for the link. Weekend reading. Will revert with comments.

[DNA]

Can I ask a weee bitty question?
How can a thread generate six pages of dialogue, 5,500 views and only get thanked twice?
For all who have posted and not given a thanks,,,I think a new thread needs to be started "The ungreatfull turds" Or "The ungreatfull snots", take your pick.

[ViralSpiral]

Posted by DNA (here)
"The ungreatfull turds" Or "The ungreatfull snots"

GASP!!!!
Ungrateful Dead?


Personally, I blame the solar flares
I have revisited the first page, thank you

[DoubleHelix]

Posted by DNA (here)
Can I ask a weee bitty question?
How can a thread generate six pages of dialogue, 5,500 views and only get thanked twice?
For all who have posted and not given a thanks,,,I think a new thread needs to be started "The ungreatfull turds" Or "The ungreatfull snots", take your pick.

I think you'll find before today's post #105, the rest date back to before September 2010, thus the thanking system had not been brought into effect.

[DNA]

Posted by DoubleHelix (here)

Posted by DNA (here)
Can I ask a weee bitty question?
How can a thread generate six pages of dialogue, 5,500 views and only get thanked twice?
For all who have posted and not given a thanks,,,I think a new thread needs to be started "The ungreatfull turds" Or "The ungreatfull snots", take your pick.

I think you'll find before today's post #105, the rest date back to before September 2010, thus the thanking system had not been brought into effect.

Oh, well, that makes me feel better.
I'll feel a little better if I see you thanking this thread though DH.

[DNA]

Posted by lightblue (here)
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and i remember john lear mentoin grays collect human souls as physical bodies die, take to them to the moon for storage and further recycling...i am not thinking this up - i always wished bill and kerry probed him a bit mor on that ... l

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I'm just reading myself into this conversation,,,and I'm sure John Lear will be mentioned prominantly here, I would like to mention that this short excerpt entitled Matilda O'Donnell MacElroy - Alien Interview was also considered prominatly and in high regard when Lear came to his opinion regarding soul's being harvested and that type of thing.

In "Alien Interview"
We have a nurse who claims she was present at one of the flying saucer crash retrievals. She mentions that the alien telepathically contacted her, and that try as some of the other millitary men did do communicate with it, all was to no avail, it only communicated with MacElroy.

The "being", explained to her, that it was a biological robot, that it needed to be so because sending resource needy life forms like ourselves would be near impossible when it came to space travel over vast distances requiring long periods of time being spent in a ship.
The being also explained,,,that it had a soul,,,and that it had full memory of it's past lives. The being explained that it was part of a civilization that "created" bodies and the soul then had the ability to download into them as "she" had done.
This biological robot was female.
Life times had different meanings for these robots with souls, because they could create a new body as they needed one, and they had full memory of their past lives.

The biological robot when on to explain a creation mythos on earth that was very much in line with the thinking in Robert Morning Sky's Terra Papers, and Zacharia Sitchin's works.
It was said that there was a vast Empire, and that earth was populated by the unwanted souls of this Empire, and the souls were kept incarnating here by means of a technological prison loop.
You see, the Empire didn't want the souls in the Empire anymore for various reasons not limited to but including, rebeliousness, innovative thinking, criminal activity, deviant activity, autonomy and tax evasion.

The robot explained that not only did this contraption work on the souls of all humans,,,,,,but,,,any way faring space travelers who might be passing through and happen to die here.

I find that last part very interesting, because I'm always looking for strange data to corrolate and ping.
And this is strange ping indeed.

While I was trying to absorb the Billy Meier material from a set of audio tapes by Randolph Winters, I came across a small piece of information that caused my ears to perk. Meier was reported as asking, "can you be born on other planets"? To which it was replied to him "No, you can not be born on another planet, unless you travel there by body and then die".

[PurpleLama]

this in particular is most enheartening and would be the ground for the alleviation of fear.

Posted by Carmody (here)
As for us 'humans' manifesting imagination as both our curse and gift.

The question then comes on such a pronouncement - how the reptilians, who seemingly do not possess such imaginations, how do they manifest?

Well, they, not having imagination, possess no doubt. Since they are absolutely sure in their existence in this given astral realm, then their manifestation is rock solid.

Our imagination, after the doubt leaves us, allows for not just rock solid manifestation, but manifold creation.

[Carmody]

One thing that is very evident about humans is that they indeed, undoubtedly, undeniably... do have a self blocking fold back function and loop in their psychology and their physiology.

The ego, the autonomous layer function prevents people from analyzing their origins. The door inside has a cover on it (big sticker: 'no user serviceable parts inside! Potentially lethal voltages! removing cover will violate warranty!), created and maintained by the edifice the body, the avatar. You can drive the car, but the engine bay is bolted shut. Is it an awareness test, or is it deliberate, for what reasons?

Did Doyle Noyes, for example, crack open his 'engine bay/integration bay'... and slap a turbo on it? (maybe a Bit of No2 and some coilovers! Meditation: Pimp my Ride!), all done simply through an innate capacity for his particular genetics and this opening the inner door?





The pattern observed does indeed fit the discoveries of Ingo Swann when remote scanning the moon, and from the stories coming out of black ops, about humans and what is done with them at some other worldly level. Autonomous programmed machines.

We are also about 5-10 years away MAXIMUM, from this exact scenario of our current wiring and design from being public, with regard to the capacity to design our genetics in this exact way.

Seriously.

Within years, we will be able to create humans as intelligent machines, that are programmable, like biological machines, much like the rules of robot behavior, as advanced by Issac Asimov.

This is PUBLIC genetics.

Imagine what is going on in private works, black ops works, or with much higher, much older levels of genetic works and designs.

Fabricating humanoid machines with layers and wiring is a simplistic thing for them, like squeezing toothpaste out of a tube (even though it is still a high level technology from this viewpoint).

This even plays into the warning of what went on with previous evolved groups on this planet. As either channelings from others, etc.

When we add in the multidimensional factor and the absolute stunning, impossible, against all known natural law 'billions to 1 impossibility' placement and action/motion of the moon, regarding it's connection to the earth...all this adds up to a mystery that can still..go..in any direction.

One thing is for sure, some form of self-realization for the bulk of humanity will be taking place over the near term, as opposed to the long term.

I'm not being paranoid about it, I'm just analyzing the aspects of it, in a Spock like manner. 'Fascinating, Captain', I say.


Some say 'prison planet'.

Some say 'school'.

Some say 'cradle'.

Possibly even 'game', or 'proxy war', or 'entertainment'.

Some even say a breeding ground for a war machine, or a giant food court (buffet style! self serve!), and that one group is trying to wrest control from those who send souls into the mix to try and fix the funny little food and or slave/soldier farm.

It could even be a form of common meeting ground for different races and dimensionals, day care for their kiddies, many potentials exist.

Are all true? Some variation thereof?

why waste a good planet, when you can all agree... and do a million different things with it... Simultaneously?

You'd need a hellova lot of phone cops to keep that one straight, to prevent interaction, so the differing layers don't integrate too much, and take the scenario down for some of the participants, on whatever level and way it might exist, for the given individual.

[PurpleLama]

Programmable humanoids? Hmmmm, seems 'they've' been making greys all along. Always rehashing the ancient stuff, it seems.

I also like the day care metaphor. It's as appropriate as the gardening metaphor.

[delfine]

MacElroy´s "Alien interview" is an affirmed hoax according to Bill Ryan. (Sorry I don´t remember in which thread he says so.)
Cheers...

[DNA]

Posted by delfine (here)
MacElroy´s "Alien interview" is an affirmed hoax according to Bill Ryan. (Sorry I don´t remember in which thread he says so.)
Cheers...

I have heard that, though I've never heard Bill Ryan had an opinion on the matter.
Until I learn more, I will still keep the information within the scope of applicable comparitive data.

Some of my favorite sources for information have had rigerous attacks and attempts to align them in the field of hoax.
Billy Meier I am not on the fence about, I just believe his story hook line and sinker, and there are very credible testimonials against him.
I have weighed the data, and one of the key elements that keeps me a Meier believer, is that Meier never devoloped his own photos, he just shot pics and took them to his local photomat.
Very easy for government types to slip faked pictures into his picture archive this way.
This is why you have such amazing pics of UFOs and some that are laughably bad in my opinion.
As for folks who think such disinfo doesn't exist, I assure you it does.

Oh my,,,,was this the secret meeting under the docks for Meier supporters? No? My bad
Anyway,,,,,,the Alien Interview stuff has some amazing new angles and perspectives on visitation, and can be read simply as a mind expander if nothing else.

And being as Bill Ryan holds John Lear in such esteem, and I found this information on John Lear's website, I'm thinking Bill would be pretty understanding if you read the material and made the decision for yourself.

[delfine]

Hi DNA,
I did buy and read the alien interview, and though I initially was fascinated with the info, I later got an "off" feeling about it.
Unfortunately I´m not able to back this up by proof or arguments, just had an intuition that it wasn´t true.