Planet X/Nibiru/Tyche/Hercolobus/Elenin

[greybeard]

This is for a zip file 119 pages long.
Very full, fact filled re the topic of this thread,
Shiva777 posted it elsewhere thanks/credit due to him.
Chris

ftp://qcenglish@down.shopye.net/nibiru_elenin.zip

[Billy]

Nasa says Elenin is a wimp :-)
http://www.space.com/12603-comet-ele...pacecraft.html

Quote:
NASA has dismissed the notion that comet Elenin is anything other than a dim, wimpy comet. It poses no threat to Earth, making its closest pass at a distance roughly 100 times farther than the distance from Earth to the moon.

[Violet]

Interesting. What do we know about its orbit?

[Operator]

I just watched the Susan Rennison presentation yesterday recommended by Greybeard and Ian Gordon.

Although Chris suggested it might be a little bit off topic I think the presentation is very good and explains
exactly what's going on at the moment. Indeed she doesn't mention Elenin at all but Elenin is not needed
to explain all the changes ... for me it becomes clearer and clearer that Elenin is used as a distraction.

The time frame and the changes maybe real but the cause is likely very different. I think the TPTB are
scared because they simply cannot predict what will happen, they can only speculate and they are
very good at imagining worse case scenarios.

Remember if someone is not so self-assured he/she is likely to become a control freak, wanting to control
everything. Well, what do we find more and more in the authorities nowadays ?
So tell me where we would find the ones who would fear most losing control ?

After watching Susan's presentation I think more than ever that the Hopi were right:

There is a river flowing now very fast. It is so great and swift that there are those who will be afraid. They will try to hold on
to the shore. They will feel they are being torn apart and will suffer greatly. Know the river has its destination. The elders say
we must let go of the shore, push off into the middle of the river, keep our eyes open, and our heads above the water.

And I say, see who is in there with you and celebrate. At this time in history

[Maia Gabrial]

What I was told by someone who has Google Earth, that the free version doesn't have all the features that the one you pay for has.....makes sense to me. I couldn't find half the stuff everyone was talking about....

[Billy]

Comet Elenin & Conspiracy Theories, This video is subtiltled


Source: Watch on Vimeo

[Ammit]

Has this picture been doctored?,. If you look to the right and zoom in you can see a line of squares which resemble the edge of old camera film....

10h15m19.0s 15degs 6` 14.2"

[enfoldedblue]

I typed in Nibiru Mercury and infrared in google search to see what others were saying about this and I noticed this:
8/21/11 Has anyone seen Nibiru today in google sky ? I did and it ...
answers.yahoo.com › ... › News & Events › Current EventsHave you seen nibiru on google sky ? Search google sky (this is for those who don't know how ) Then type in mercury , hit the infrared button to the

When you click on the question and get to the page you find: This question has been deleted
Questions on Yahoo! Answers are sometimes deleted according to our Community Guidelines.

hhhmmmmmmmmm

[dddanieljjjamesss]

It looks kind of fake to me... just saying.

[kathymarie]

I was going to post this...it came to me in a forwarded message from James Gilliland...read it...he says to jump down to page 26 and he says "Nibiru has already turned Saturn on its side 90 degrees when it passed through at 8 AU's away. " That alone is an attention getter as far as I'm concerned. However, having said that why aren't more amateur astronomers or professional ones for that matter not chiming in more on the subject? Personally, I want to believe we are co-creators of our reality and I would believe enough of us are members of Project Avalon to bring about a critical mass to ensure this event is for the greater good.
ftp://qcenglish@down.shopye.net/nibiru_elenin.zip[/QUOTE]

[Hervé]

Posted by kathymarie (here)
[...]

... why aren't more amateur astronomers or professional ones for that matter not chiming in more on the subject?

[...]
ftp://qcenglish@down.shopye.net/nibiru_elenin.zip

Didn't you read this thread?

They do!

But very few people read their post swamped amidst the gloomers & doomers floods of alarming posts contest when not utterly bashed... so they quit.

Check post # 805

[Operator]

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)

Posted by kathymarie (here)
[...]

... why aren't more amateur astronomers or professional ones for that matter not chiming in more on the subject?

[...]
ftp://qcenglish@down.shopye.net/nibiru_elenin.zip

Didn't you read this thread?

They do!

But very few people read their post swamped amidst the gloomers & doomers floods of alarming posts contest when not utterly bashed... so they quit.

Check post # 805

Yeah, I've read that article before ... maybe it's me (not being a native English speaker) but I think that article is pretty confusing.
Instead of letting this dr. Glenn talk they keep referring to mr. Croft and all the nonsense he supposedly is spewing.
Then in short dr. Glenn gets to say that he has nothing to do with Croft BUT there is something extraordinary he has seen for 3
consecutive nights and they build the mystery again:

While he may not ally himself with the "research group," the Cape Girardeau doctor does believe there's something very bad in the wind.

"I'm watching. I have a watchful eye," Glenn said, asserting that something serious is causing a rash of volcanoes and massive earthquakes, like the 9.0 quake that struck Japan in March. He claims to know something, the same thing NASA knows, the president knows, the Defense Department knows. But Glenn says there's no use in talking about it -- and the leaders in the know can't talk about it either.

To finish with Dr. Don Yeomans from NASA who basically says nothing to see just walk on ...

So in all, I think the article was 'designed' to confuse and not to clear up anything.

I have the same question (still): "If the whole Saturn tilt is true, why don't we hear more about it ?"
There should be thousands of amateur astronomers flooding forums with this topic etc.

[Hervé]

Posted by greybeard (here)
This is for a zip file 119 pages long.
Very full, fact filled re the topic of this thread,
Shiva777 posted it elsewhere thanks/credit due to him.
Chris

ftp://qcenglish@down.shopye.net/nibiru_elenin.zip

Check post # 579

Posted by Bryn ap Gwilym (here)
Mandala.. Hi

Posted by Bryn ap Gwilym (here)

You should read the article on Sott website regarding Kerry / Hoagland video.
http://www.sott.net/articles/show/23...a-Sanity-Check

I don't know what else to say...

[Hervé]

Posted by Operator (here)
[...]
I have the same question (still): "If the whole Saturn tilt is true, why don't we hear more about it ?"
There should be thousands of amateur astronomers flooding forums with this topic etc.

All right Operator, I would just ask you to read just a little further down from the article excerpt and your question will be answered:

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)

Posted by Calz_Avaretard (here)
Was still hoping to get confirmation regarding Saturn.

Could the photos themselves have been rotated???

That would still not account for the Saturn moon images ... nor the storm.

[...]

As for Saturn's tilt... here's what GLP's amateur astronomer has to say:

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Re: [+PIN+] ELEnin & Nibiru NEW Report... Holy SH*T READ THIS!!!!Quote [+] #
I read through the file. I've read hundreds of postings here and on other sites on this subject and found a lot of doomers and debunkers alike and I seriously don't know which to trust. Amateurs, "professionals", claimed professionals, religious quotes...You name it.
Quoting: Captain Spaulding 1366925

You can trust amateur astronomers. We have no reason or motivation to lie, and indeed we're telling the truth. We'd know if Saturn had experienced a "90 degree pole shift." It hasn't.
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... and this:

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Re: [+PIN+] ELEnin & Nibiru NEW Report... Holy SH*T READ THIS!!!!Quote [+] #

Errrr guys. If the gravitational pull from Nibiru was strong enough to tilt Saturn, those moons would no longet be where they are.
Just thought i'd point that one out.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1407727


Now *THIS* is a small, but very relevant, example of the "agenda" that I and Astronut and others are trying to get across...

...it's called education, logic, and common sense.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1198034

Look budy through the years many famous scientist of there day where persecuted for there theories for thinking out of the box. Are you 100% certain your correct because if you are your the first because no one has firm data on this object.
Quoting: ducati60


Then *you* explain how the gravity of an alleged brown dwarf (or neutron star, that's a nice one) passed by Saturn and did NOT change the orbits of the moons.

Well?
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Think of it... that's a major cosmic feat: Tilting Saturn by 90 degrees without flinging its moons in all directions!


I am in awe.

[learninglight]

Hi guys

Found this interesting....seems there are amateur astronomers checking this out

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=HeKmQk8-2Us

[seko]

Posted by greybeard (here)
This is for a zip file 119 pages long.
Very full, fact filled re the topic of this thread,
Shiva777 posted it elsewhere thanks/credit due to him.
Chris

ftp://qcenglish@down.shopye.net/nibiru_elenin.zip

Hi greybeard,

I read shiva777's file. He seems to have a lot of info and well presented.

If this is true, bring it on. I will flow like water, if I've decided before hand to be here and live to tell the tale and start rebuilding the planet I will, but if I have to go, I will go.

We couldn't do anything about it, but hiding. I honestly wouldn't like that.

Let the people that have access to the D.U.M.B.'s hide in there.

[dourpil]

If it's Nibiru and if it's a planet, how come other planets don't have the same effect?

[nearing]

Posted by dourpil (here)
If it's Nibiru and if it's a planet, how come other planets don't have the same effect?

If it was only a planet, we wouldn't need infrared telescopes to see it.

[Kindred]

Here's the You-tube url:
[URL="[youtube]dyn_c0lecUI[/youtube]

I'll leave it up to the individual to ascertain the validity of this news. I'll point out that it was posted recently - on Aug. 20th.

I'm sure there will be others yet to come, if indeed, this is valid information.

Unity & Peace

(lets try this link... let me know if it doesn't work!!!)

[shadowstalker]

Sorry but you need a better link