Huge UFOs caught on Telescope - 2011

[Hervé]

For those interested in digging a bit more -- as I wrote too fast regarding an ATS debunk, it was in fact a smear campaign -- here is John Lenard Walson YouTube channel:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=z6qOm-vrifI

and home page: https://youtube.com/user/JohnLenardWalson


In digging further, I learnt that the guy is a photographer "hors pair" and demonstrates the Moon to be quite colorful.

For comparison, see the video from noprophet at post # 7 and checkout the "no-shadow" objects near surface... compare those with the ones seen in the Tether video.

[HURRITT ENYETO]

Posted by DNA (here)

Posted by HURRITT ENYETO (here)
Look, They are nothing to do with NASA they are independent Researchers who recreated all the conditions in the 'tether footage' perfectly, and you still don't get it!!

They have re created the Window used in the shuttle, the vacuum BETWEEN the LAYERS of glass, they have explained the reason the 'objects' appear to go behind the tether. And after doing all this they show you the same effects as on the tether footage. You obviously didn't watch the whole program (1h+) or you would know it was not guys pointing a laser in a dark room.

I'll leave it at that, we will have to agree to disagree
ps I detest NASA and don't need lecturing on their ills. I hate debunkers but am trying to help people who may have not come across the 'tether' footage before. If i wasn't trying to help, i wouldn't bother,trust me.
I wish someone would have saved me a lot of time years ago

Hurritt

I for one appreciate the info Hurritt, but I've dealt with hardcore debunkers so long, it's a knee jerk reaction when I throw something at them.
That being said, your tone earlier was remnicent of that.
We are all trying to learn from imperfect sources of information, and the last thing we need is some one scoffing or accusing someone through inference that they are a gullible ass just because they are entertaining the notion that something has merrit.

Again, I appreciate the information. Just leave the condescending attitude out of it next time.

Agreed, It seems we both have a hatred of debunkers
My post was a tad condescending, for that i apologise.

Hurritt

[DNA]

Posted by HURRITT ENYETO (here)

Posted by DNA (here)

Posted by HURRITT ENYETO (here)
Look, They are nothing to do with NASA they are independent Researchers who recreated all the conditions in the 'tether footage' perfectly, and you still don't get it!!

They have re created the Window used in the shuttle, the vacuum BETWEEN the LAYERS of glass, they have explained the reason the 'objects' appear to go behind the tether. And after doing all this they show you the same effects as on the tether footage. You obviously didn't watch the whole program (1h+) or you would know it was not guys pointing a laser in a dark room.

I'll leave it at that, we will have to agree to disagree
ps I detest NASA and don't need lecturing on their ills. I hate debunkers but am trying to help people who may have not come across the 'tether' footage before. If i wasn't trying to help, i wouldn't bother,trust me.
I wish someone would have saved me a lot of time years ago

Hurritt

I for one appreciate the info Hurritt, but I've dealt with hardcore debunkers so long, it's a knee jerk reaction when I throw something at them.
That being said, your tone earlier was remnicent of that.
We are all trying to learn from imperfect sources of information, and the last thing we need is some one scoffing or accusing someone through inference that they are a gullible ass just because they are entertaining the notion that something has merrit.

Again, I appreciate the information. Just leave the condescending attitude out of it next time.

Agreed, It seems we both have a hatred of debunkers
My post was a tad condescending, for that i apologise.

Hurritt

Thanks Bro
I was a bit touchy in that last post, sorry about that.
It must be harmones,
It's a difficult road to hoe and your right, there is a lot of crap out there to lead us off the trail.

Thanks again for your information and your understanding
DNA

[HURRITT ENYETO]

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
For those interested in digging a bit more -- as I wrote too fast regarding an ATS debunk, it was in fact a smear campaign -- here is John Lenard Walson YouTube channel:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=z6qOm-vrifI

and home page: https://youtube.com/user/JohnLenardWalson


In digging further, I learnt that the guy is a photographer "hors pair" and demonstrates the Moon to be quite colorful.

For comparison, see the video from noprophet at post # 7 and checkout the "no-shadow" objects near surface... compare those with the ones seen in the Tether video.

A smear campaign?
All these forums ATS, Godlike productions, Disclose Tv etc must all be wrong then, and have some reason to run a smear campaign against this man. Its all out there, just google it,

How do you mean "a photographer hors pair"? From some of his videos ive watched he has a very BAD grasp of basic photographic principals (as many have stated)

I don't know why you give this fraud the time of day. Give anybody half an hour to look into this guy and i bet they have serious doubts. What about identical helicopters appearing in 2 different videos taken years apart (the same clip edited) Why do you think he shut up for years only now to reappear? It was because he was busted when he failed to deliver on every one of his claims.

But if you would rather believe there are miles wide Intergalactic starship's all around the globe that only this one man can see, well that's up to you.

Hurritt

[Hervé]

Posted by HURRITT ENYETO (here)

[...]

... well that's up to you.

Hurritt

Indeed!

And anyone else.

[HURRITT ENYETO]

Amzer Zo,

I'm sorry man, i just get passionate about this stuff and try to help people to not fall down the same hole's i did.
Who am i too tell you what to believe.
Sorry brother.

Hurritt

[Hervé]

Posted by HURRITT ENYETO (here)
Amzer Zo,

I'm sorry man, i just get passionate about this stuff and try to help people to not fall down the same hole's i did.
Who am i too tell you what to believe.
Sorry brother.

Hurritt

No problem!

I appreciate the passion (latin blood) for something someone is convinced of based on facts.

It remains I still would like some links other than ATS, GLP or the likes.

Peace.

[Bryn ap Gwilym]

I have just come across a book that mentions manisolas. Could this explain orbs & ships that look like lifeforms?


Arktos: the polar myth in science, symbolism, and Nazi survival
By Joscelyn Godwin
http://books.google.com/books?id=26v...isolas&f=false

[Hervé]

Posted by HURRITT ENYETO (here)

But if you would rather believe there are miles wide Intergalactic starship's all around the globe that only this one man can see, well that's up to you.

Hurritt

Hi Hurrit!

I borrowed this from The one (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post290903 ) and see for yourself:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=IHt-2DqvzoI

According to the author of the video, a simple spotting scope and an HD camera were used... in broad daylight!

Then one need to consider the size of these objects compared to the Moon... they are BIG!

There's at least another video floating around YouTube which shows similar events but I lost the link so I couldn't provide it in our debate. I am thankful to The One for this one.

[HURRITT ENYETO]

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)

Posted by HURRITT ENYETO (here)

But if you would rather believe there are miles wide Intergalactic starship's all around the globe that only this one man can see, well that's up to you.

Hurritt

Hi Hurrit!

I borrowed this from The one (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post290903 ) and see for yourself:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=IHt-2DqvzoI

According to the author of the video, a simple spotting scope and an HD camera were used... in broad daylight!

Then one need to consider the size of these objects compared to the Moon... they are BIG!

There's at least another video floating around YouTube which shows similar events but I lost the link so I couldn't provide it in our debate. I am thankful to The One for this one.

Hiya Amzer Zo.

The posted clip can't really be compared to the original video we were debating.
Its one thing to show tiny undefined 'objects' emerging from the Moon, and quite another to show multiple, very complex and defined what look like star Wars ships.

I have seen many awesome UFO clips (some even from NASA) and also seen the huge objects around the Sun (although it could be argued that they are digital artefacts ) I don't want you to believe i am a sceptic as that couldn't be further from the truth!!

In fact i reported on Avalon the other week of my own close encounter with a UFO apart from ufo threads etc i have started.
I just don't believe that one particular guys claims thats all. I'm all for Aliens

Cheers man
Hurritt

[winston smith1971]

HURRITT ENYETO is this guy a fraud then? I have read this thread and i was amazed when i first watched the vid, but like you i need proof from several sources to corroborate anything. Like you said how come only one guy has filmed these huge crafts? Can you post links to how he used models? I feel IMHO too many people believe things instantly, i do like empirical evidence if possible or independent sources to back things up. I feel you should not personally get stick because you are trying to help people not to go down dead ends and fall for lies or disinfo. I'm not having ago at any other posters this is a very emotive subject and can cause feelings to run high.The main problem i face when trying to discuss these type of subjects is cretinous people ridiculing without doing any of their own independent research. Keep up the good fight. Cheers Winston

[winston smith1971]

I found some more vids by Walson, i dont know if this as a little more credibility to his claims, You be the Judge...
http://blip.tv/fast-far-above-space-...#disqus_thread

http://blip.tv/fast-far-above-space-...11-2008-670156

The Plot thickens... have just been on rense.com who i believe was a big supporter of Mr. Walson all the videos i tried to look at have been removed by the user? I don't know why.

[Violet]

Posted by Sugarific (here)
Those are some amazing images. Now I REALLY am getting my telescope out again. :D

I wonder what (affordable) telescope would come close to getting that precision...

[Sugarific]

Posted by Violet (here)

Posted by Sugarific (here)
Those are some amazing images. Now I REALLY am getting my telescope out again. :D

I wonder what (affordable) telescope would come close to getting that precision...

Yeah, good point. I don't think the video mentioned what sort of telescope was used, did it?

[WhiteFeather]

Posted by Snoweagle (here)
[Mod-edit - brief response deleted - lets find more respectful ways to register our dissent. Thanks. -Paul.]

You are all over it Paul.

[Hervé]

Posted by HURRITT ENYETO (here)

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
[...]

https://youtube.com/watch?v=IHt-2DqvzoI

According to the author of the video, a simple spotting scope and an HD camera were used... in broad daylight!

Then one need to consider the size of these objects compared to the Moon... they are BIG!

[...]

Its one thing to show tiny undefined 'objects' emerging from the Moon, and quite another to show multiple, very complex and defined what look like star Wars ships.
[...]
Cheers man
Hurritt

This is where the perspectives split apart: These "tiny undefined 'objects' emerging from the Moon" are HUGE! Detectable with the use of a simple, inexpensive spotting scope.

If you cannot concede to that, there isn't much else I can say/write.

Once one can accept the enormous size of these objects, then compare Walson's shots of the Moon surface with what's revealed of the Moon surface in that other video showing "no-shadow objets," then may be one can conceive there's something to Walson's claim he pushed simple optics to the limit of diffraction. In other days someone achieved that with microscopes... check out Rife and what happened to him and his inventions.

Now, to get an idea on how such huge "machines" are mechanically possible, I encourage anyone to watch Stan Deyo's presentation.

Also, in that presentation, he gives an example on how devious psyops can get to:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=CsagEYfxPgs

[Violet]

Not contesting the images but I'm thinking of purchasing a telescope soon. Hence the question for more details. I would be more than happy to invest in a durable tool that will allow me to at least co-observe these miraculous events.

[Hervé]

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=O9qG-0_JCVg

[Gridkeeper]

I will answer all questions regarding Mr.Walson. Although I will not reveal everything and when I don't i will explain why as best I can, thanks.

[Hervé]

Posted by Gridkeeper (here)
I will answer all questions regarding Mr.Walson. Although I will not reveal everything and when I don't i will explain why as best I can, thanks.

Hi Gridkeeper!

Where the hell were you when Hurritt was having a fit?

So, what's the basic optics you are using?