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    Default The PRECESSIONAL CYCLE and the END DATE

    It takes 72 years for the earth to move through one degree of the 25 920 year cycle that represents the end of the age (72x360=25 920). This cycle of our planet is referred to as the Precession of the Equinox or the Great Year.

    The cycle is divided up by astrology into 12 signs or 12 months of the 25 920 years. So it takes an equinox sun approximately 2 160 years to transit one of the twelve constellations, on its 25 920 year cycle around the Zodiac, before a new sign appears on the horizon. The twelve constellations of the Zodiac, that were painstakingly researched by the Greek, Hindu, Persian, Egyptian, Chaldean, Hebrew and Chinese astronomers, create an imaginary belt in the heavens. The Zodiacal circle formed by these constellations is close to being aligned with our celestial equator. At this time in history the sun appears, to an observer on earth, to be located between Pisces and Aquarius on the first day of spring. The suns apparent position moves a little bit west in a constellation when observed on the same day each year.

    Winter solstice 2012 falls on December 21. The same day the winter solstice sun is also believed to cross the Milky Way precisely in the location of the dark rift, the galaxy's true center. NASA says the winter solstice sun won’t even pass close to the Milky Way's central black hole on the sky for another 200 years. http://www.nasa.gov/topics/earth/fea...12-guest.html.

    The processional cycle was calculated at 25 800 years in the early 19th hundreds. Then in the 1990s they recalculated the star pattern and processional cycle at 25 920 years. I heard that Leo Zagami, in the Project Camelot interview, https://youtube.com/watch?v=_nLfRsReGII, said that the number of the Illuminati is 25 920. Did the Illuminati ever recalculate?

    The Mayan calendar, that was adopted by the other Mesoamerican nations such as the Aztecs and the Toltec, have an overall length of the long calendar year of 5 125 years. The Mayans referred to this overall cycle as a “world age”. The five world ages almost add up to the length of the processional cycle with its 25 625 years.

    Over the decades much discussion has focused on finding the exact correlation between the Mayan Long Count and the Gregorian calendar. Most researchers in the field have now come to agree that the so-called GMT correlation, placing the beginning of the Mayan Long Count (4 Ahaw, 8 Kumku) on the Julian day 584 283, August 11, 3114 BC, is correct. This means by consequence that it will end on December 21, 2012. And such as Jose Arguelles, John Jenkins and Terence McKenna, who have taken an interest in the calendar of the Maya, have endorsed this date as the end of the current cycle.

    George Kavassilas says; “the organic portals will be open until December 21, 2012. Mother Earth will find its centre and her planetary light body will get activated on March 21, 2013 and the 3rd and 4th dimension will cease to exist”. https://youtube.com/watch?v=qInzZm_tMC8. In his take on the cycle there is a 24 832 year duration, not the traditional 25 920 years. Anyway it may seem like the end is on the winter solstice December 2012. But we have to wait for the vernal equinox, which is used as the zero point in measuring star co-ordinates, in March 2013, for the processional cycle to finish.

    There is also the autumnal (autumn/September) equinox on September 22, 2012. According to newscientist.com there is a solar storm that may hit the earth on that date. The surface of the sun is a roiling mass of plasma – charged high energy particles – some of which escape the surface and travel through space as the solar wind. From time to time, that wind carries a billion-tone glob of plasma, a fireball known as a coronal mass ejection. If one should hit the Earth’s magnetic shield, the result could be truly devastating.

    Anyways… We sit at the end of an approximately 26 thousand year cycle called the Precession of the Equinox. Our little galaxy, about 1.1 billion planets and stars called the Milky Way, has now travelled about 26 thousand years to circle the twelve constellation signs of the Zodiac and are dawning the Age of Aquarius or a new age… Where I hope we are all welcome.



    http://www.nmm.ac.uk/explore/astrono...-and-solstices

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Precession

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maya_calendar

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mesoamerican_calendars

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equinox

    http://www.newscientist.com

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    Default Re: The PRECESSIONAL CYCLE and the END DATE

    Good post Dr Neglect...thanks

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    This is the best EQUINOX PRECESSION simulator I have found. You will have to download it, its only 1352kb.

    http://www.compadre.org/osp/items/detail.cfm?ID=9388

    Quote "The EJS Equinox Precession model illustrates the Copernican theory of Earth's orbit around the sun. The top window shows a view from outside the celestial sphere. The simulation shows the moving Earth along with its axis or rotation and the line of sight from Earth, through Sun, to the Celestial Sphere. The end of the arrow indicates where, on the Celestial Sphere, Sun appears to be located as seen from Earth. The tilt of Earth's rotational axis (relative to the ecliptic plane) is adjustable. The bottom window shows the view of a portion of the sky (near the ecliptic) as seen by an observer on Earth"
    I reckon it will be hard to understand if you are not familiar with astronomy and the PRECESSION of the EQUINOXES (vernal and autumnal).

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    calleman is right and all others are wrong. the precessional cycle will be of no consequence because the cycle that's important (16.4 billion years development of consciousness) ends on october 28th this year and that is also the end of time when those who are ready again enter a state of timeless universal consciousness.
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    Quote Posted by The Truth Is In There (here)
    calleman is right and all others are wrong. the precessional cycle will be of no consequence because the cycle that's important (16.4 billion years development of consciousness) ends on october 28th this year and that is also the end of time when those who are ready again enter a state of timeless universal consciousness.
    Well that is my hope.
    There have been so many stories in the past that did not actually come to fruition, but, there is a raising of consciousness going on just now, of that I am sure.
    It seems so far fetched to believe that timeless universal consciousness can happen but it has happened so some "individuals" so why not en-mass?
    We can but hope.

    Chris

    Ps the enlightenment thread is full of videos of people who are in that state called enlightenment.
    good one is "Who is driving the dream bus?" or very recent ones.

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post294203
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    For an in-depth discussion on the precession of the Equinoxes and the value of the different models followed, see this site:

    http://www.binaryresearchinstitute.o...ecession.shtml

    Quote Layman's explanation: The precession of the equinox is the age-old phenomenon whereby an observer on Earth will notice that after one year (solar, tropical, equinoctial), he will not realign with the exact same point relative to the distant stars. From two to four thousand years ago observers on Earth noticed that the sun on the vernal equinox aligned with the constellation Aries, and in the last few thousand years with Pisces. Now as many know, we are at the "dawning of the age of Aquarius", meaning the sun on the vernal equinox is close to aligning with the constellation of Aquarius. This apparent backward motion of the stars (at the time of the equinox) is the precession of the equinox – whereby the equinoctial point slowly recedes through the 12 constellations of the Zodiac at the present rate of about 1 degree per 71.6 years. If this rate were constant it would take about 25,700 to 25,800 years to complete one full precession of the equinox. However, the annual rate is now speeding up, meaning the calculated length of one full cycle is getting shorter. If the observable of precession is due to an elliptical orbit of our sun around another star, as we believe, then this explains the reason for the variable rate of precession, and also tells us the full cycle will average something different than 25,700 years. All our calculations lead us to believe the period will average about 24,000 years as will be explained in a later section of this website.
    [...]
    Next, is the same chart in an "Angular Momentum to Mass ratio" formula. You can see all the bodies in our solar system have ratios in line with their mass except for the Sun.



    We then added one input into the existing formula: we assumed the Sun was moving in a binary orbit with a period of 24,000 years.



    As you can see, the Sun came right into line.

    This indicates the Sun may indeed have it's proper angular momentum (proportional to it's mass) providing another indication our sun is part of a binary or multiple star system

    [...]

    Precession Model Considerations

    We offer here a revised precession model based on a moving solar system, herein called the Binary Model or simply new model in this animation (you can stop or start the animations individually with the controls in the lower right hand corner). Note that both models look very similar and have similar observables.

    (see site's animations for a better grasp of the idea)

    In both models the point of equinox occurs where the celestial equator (grey disk) intersects the ecliptic (gold disk), which of course occurs twice a year - the first day of Spring and the first day of Autumn. And in both models the equinox moves at the same rate relative to the black background and fixed text (which represents the fixed stars).
    The difference in the models is that the conventional model moves the point of equinox by requiring the celestial equator to slip along the ecliptic (a wobbling earth scenario as propounded by lunisolar theory), whereas in the binary model the ecliptic and celestial equator remain fixed (meaning the equinox occurs at the same point every year in the earth’s orbit path around the sun) moving against the background stars simply because the solar system moves.
    The only way to easily tell the difference between the two models is by noting the position of an observer (the red X) relative to the equinox, ecliptic and celestial equator. In the conventional model the solar system is static and therefore the observer is stuck in one position (relative to the fixed stars), so the only way the equinox can move relative to the fixed stars is if the point at which the celestial equator intersects the ecliptic is constantly in local motion. In the binary model the observer remains fixed in relation to local markers and the equinox moves because the solar system moves.
    The simplest observable of the precession of the equinox is that at the time of the annual equinox we observe that the sun has moved west about 50” from the position it was in the year before – relative to the background stars. Under conventional theory this motion is considered “apparent” with astronomers believing the sun did not actually move – it just “appeared” to move because the earth wobbled by 50”.
    But in the new model things are much simpler. The sun moves across the sky at 50” p/y because this is how much the solar system moves per year (its angular velocity). The “precession of the equinox” then is not an “apparent” motion of the sun – it is a real motion of the sun. The solar system moves!
    According to this new discovery based on observed, empirical data... everybody's wrong with their calendar!

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    I thought so! I always felt as though our dates were off.... So, we must already be in 2012....

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    Quote Posted by Maia Gabrial (here)
    I thought so! I always felt as though our dates were off.... So, we must already be in 2012....
    Add to that: 2012 ± (26,000 - 24,000) ± a few years... and one should be in the ball-park?

    In other words, it means the end of time and the beginning of a new one would have occurred 2,000 years ago ± a few... the problem being that no one knows anymore where to start the @$#&! calendar.
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    Quote Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
    ... the problem being that no one knows anymore where to start the @$#&! calendar.
    So let's give it up even trying and start "timeless universal consciousness" as Chris mentioned ...

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    The duration of the precession cycle, the time it takes for the equinox to process 360 degrees relative to the fixed stars, is often given as 25,920 or 26,000 years. In reality the exact duration cannot be given, as the rate of precession is changing over time. I agree, the precessional speed is slightly increasing each year, and therefore the cycle period is decreasing. No one is certain of the exact precession rate over long periods of time.

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    Quote Posted by The Truth Is In There (here)
    calleman is right and all others are wrong. the precessional cycle will be of no consequence because the cycle that's important (16.4 billion years development of consciousness) ends on october 28th this year and that is also the end of time when those who are ready again enter a state of timeless universal consciousness.
    What happens then??
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