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    Default Re: Is it Comet Elenin? Is it Nibiru? Elenin Updates.

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    I dont know if i trust Hoagland as much as i used to i feel he is tool who is used by the powers that be ,he is known to be very popular with the masses I WILL BE VERY SURPRISED IF HE IS RIGHT....I mean a time capsule..... now if he had said it was a ship possibly controlled by the annunaki i might of bought into that because after all wasnt nibiru or one of its moons supposed to be populated by our original makers

    Wheres Greybeard when i need him ? lol i want a rational opinion

    Hoagland is most likely confused on some very major points.

    Since none of us truly "know" any of this information it IS all speculation, discernment is key (and difficult).

    IF elenin is an "E-class" body, then it may be something artificial, & MAY have some sort of effect (as I described earlier) either amplifying the suns gravo-magnetic force on the earth, or possibly some other electro/magnetic/gravitational effect (they are all closely tied together, gravity AND magnetic forces can be amplified endlessly, as they are a local force and this does not break any laws of conservation) to me this is a POSSIBILITY.

    another possibility: this is all being used to continue the problem-reaction-solution, there will be hype, fear induced control tech.s etc... the good thing is these are easy to spot so stay vigilant.
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    Default Re: Is it Comet Elenin? Is it Nibiru? Elenin Updates.

    Maybe Hoagland thinks this is like the New Jerusalem - the city of God - coming down from heaven to the earth.
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    Default Re: Is it Comet Elenin? Is it Nibiru? Elenin Updates.

    Bye-bye Elenin...


    From: http://members.westnet.com.au/mmatti/sc.htm
    LATEST IMAGES

    C/2010 X1 Elenin
    2011 Aug 29.38UT
    Left: 10x10second exposures. C11 SCT and Starlight Express MX7c CCD imager.
    Right: Animation of 5 images taken Aug 19,22,23,27,29 displaying the nucleus in the process of disintegrating.




    RIP, it's been fun while you lasted.
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    Default Re: Is it Comet Elenin? Is it Nibiru? Elenin Updates.

    Quote Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
    Bye-bye Elenin...


    From: http://members.westnet.com.au/mmatti/sc.htm
    LATEST IMAGES

    C/2010 X1 Elenin
    2011 Aug 29.38UT
    Left: 10x10second exposures. C11 SCT and Starlight Express MX7c CCD imager.
    Right: Animation of 5 images taken Aug 19,22,23,27,29 displaying the nucleus in the process of disintegrating.



    RIP, it's been fun while you lasted.
    This is great! Now we can see what happens on those 'alignment' days without the comet...
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    Default Re: Is it Comet Elenin? Is it Nibiru? Elenin Updates.

    Quote Posted by nearing (here)
    This is great! Now we can see what happens on those 'alignment' days without the comet...

    Yep!

    I guess it's time for GooTubers to jump ship and get onto Garradd...

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    Default Re: Is it Comet Elenin? Is it Nibiru? Elenin Updates.

    As far as problem, reaction, solution: The mainstream media or its scientists have not proposed Elenin as a problem; therefore really no reaction has happened except speculation from alternative media and its followers, so no solution is needed for average Joe public.

    It seems we have Hoagland saying it could be artificial, at one time even a ship. We have had the naval pilot who says he flies for the naval space program and says Elenin is broadcasting something on shortwave band which we will find "surprising".

    In Kerry's latest blog, Hoagland says the following:

    From Richard C. Hoagland www.enterprisemission.com

    "Stereo-B is one of two unmanned spacecraft NASA launched several years ago to study solar phenomenon; it is currently trailing about 90 degrees BEHIND the Earth ... just outside the Earth's solar orbit. Its companion spacecraft, Stereo-A, is about 90 degrees AHEAD of the Earth, slightly inside its orbit.

    Elenin itself was at the orbit of Venus, and visually passing close to the Sun as seen from the vantage point of Stereo-B, when these images were taken.

    This close (physically) to the Sun, Elenin is already strongly interacting with the "solar wind" -- the very low-density stream of highly-charged particles (mostly protons and electrons -- "solar plasma"), ejected at immense speed from the Sun's surface (and seen during total solar eclipses as "the solar corona"). The solar wind usually blows outward through the solar system at an average speed of ~500 miles per second!

    Occassional CMEs (coronal mass ejections) can dramatically enhance the local density and speed of the solar wind, which can then interact with comets in very visible and spectacular ways ... usually greatly distorting their normally-straight "ion tails" (created by gases evaporating off the comet) into vivid "kinks" ... "corkscrews" ... and even "90-degree bends."

    The attached NASA images reveals what happened to Elenin as a sudden CME interacted with it, just a few days ago.

    It shows that AROUND the actual "nucleus" of Elenin suddenly appeared a stunning GEOMETRIC shape ... created by some kind of "force field." This field, interacting with the stream of charged protons and electrons in the CME, made this Elenin "field" suddenly, strikingly visible--

    As an unmistakable, 3-D TETRAHEDRON!

    This precise geometric shape is total confirmation of, and entirely consistent with, all the "19.5's" I've been analyzing over the past several months ... re Elenin's ~13,000-year orbital trajectory into the inner solar system!

    The sudden visibility of this immense "geometric structure" (which is obviously NOT a "physical object," but only a "geometric field of force ... over 300,000 miles across (!) ... seen strongly interacting with the highly charged solar wind") is only possible because Elenin is VERY close to the Sun itself now, where the density of the solar wind is high enough to make this "structure" briefly visible, especially during the density enhancement of a CME ....

    Needless to say, such a "tetrahedral force field," coupled with Elenin's "tetrahedrally-defined" orbital parameters, removes ALL remaining scientific doubt that Elenin is NOT "natural" -- but is, in fact, an Artificial Object (some kind of "ship")--

    Sent into the inner solar system ~13,000 years ago (our model) ... on some kind of "directed interplanetary Mission."

    It is, as Arthur C. Clarke wrote so many years ago, "something Wonderful ...." possibly (as I said on "Coast" the last time I was on ...) some kind of "ark" or "time capsule" ... sent to us at this crucially-important time to give us the means to (literally) "save the Earth."

    Obviously, this latest discovery increases the urgency to get as many "hams and radio astronomers as possible" involved, to see if there are actual radio (or laser) TRANSMISSIONS currently coming from this object!

    The future is about to get VERY, VERY interesting in the next few days and weeks ....

    Here (below) is the direct link to the NASA Stereo-B Elenin video footage, posted on Leonid Elenin's official website."

    http://spaceobs.org/en/2011/08/24/in...-from-the-sun/


    So my question to you guys, is are we any closer to finding out what this thing is, or is it more of an enigma?
    Is there a Nibiriu? We have heard it was destroyed in the past. Is that a lie?
    Is the large object we are seeing the asteroid that will be coming between earth and the moon?
    Is there really another object besides Elenin or is it one in the same?
    What about Dr. Mensur Omerbashich's theory about comets and possible earthquakes.
    Does this "thing" have an electrical capacitor and store charges?


    See Calz Avaretard post 1061 for pictures
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    Default Re: Is it Comet Elenin? Is it Nibiru? Elenin Updates.

    Quote Posted by HORIZONS (here)
    Quote Posted by Charlie Pecos (here)
    What will be, will be.

    Find peace within yourself, treat all you meet with the same kindness and consideration you yourself would like to be treated.
    Have kindness and compassion for all living beings and mother earth.
    Yesterday is gone.
    Tomorrow may never come.
    All we ever have is right now.
    Why worry?
    We have no control over these things and at most all we have is pure speculation.
    Let us let go and embrace a symbiotic way of life, then these things won't matter so much any more.
    No fear, OK? There are those who desire to cultivate fear in the hearts of men. Let us deny them their very sustenance and watch a beautiful age unfold before us!
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    What a great post!!! and with a great line to sum it all up. If this isn't the truth I don't know what is. Thanks
    Still keep coming back to this!!!!@!
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    Default Re: Is it Comet Elenin? Is it Nibiru? Elenin Updates.

    Thought you might find this interesting. The ISS is being temporarily left vacant during the coming months.




    second video:

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    Default Re: Is it Comet Elenin? Is it Nibiru? Elenin Updates.

    RHC is going to be on coast tonight, this is from his FB page ....

    "BULLETIN:

    I will be on "Coast" tonight -- LAST two hours -- to discuss several MAJOR new developments:

    Our recent, stunning discovery that Elenin is "a TETRAHEDRAL spaceship" ... currently sailing ever closer to the sun (see new image -- below); NASA's sudden decision to (temporarily?) "abandon" the International Space Station -- beginning in late November -- due to "unknown problems" with the Russian Soyuz FB rocket system, ESSENTIAL to sending astronauts and cosmonauts to the Space Station in the wake of the US Space Shuttle program closing down; and, the recent string of bizarre "natural disasters" that have happened from the East to the West Coasts, disasters which have the eerie "signature" of actually being "manmade" ....

    On Elenin:

    Here is the latest Enterprise Elenin imaging (below) -- produced from an original NASA STEREO-B satellite video, the latter recorded during Elenin's recent encounter with a solar CME (coronal mass ejection), August 19th.

    The new image-composite (made from THREE "40-second HI-1 camera frames") reveals several additional, startling details about Elenin's now strikingly "tetrahedral shield" (which we discovered only last week) -- that is apparently protecting "Elenin the spacecraft" (deep inside this shield) from excess solar radiation.

    The well-known technique of "stacking" independent image frames, to "increase signal and suppress noise," is an old one -- used successfully by professional and amateur astronomers alike. On this composite image, the brighter "knobs" at the apex of each of the three visible tetrahedral vertices can now easily be seen, as well as the striking "rounded symmetry" of each tetrahedral "vertex."

    The full dimensions of this extraordinary "geometric force structure" now measures more than ~300,000 miles along each edge -- more than 1.5 times the distance of Earth from the Moon!

    Needless to say, there is NO QUESTION now regarding the artificial nature of this object/structure; in several hundred years of astronomers observing comets -- including, over two decades of satellite imagery specifically to study interactions with the solar wind -- such an obviously ARTIFICIAL, GEOMETRIC structure has NEVER BEEN OBSERVED.

    The fact that this astonishing structure is also a precise "tetrahedron" -- echoing the deeply "tetrahedral" numbers associated with Elenin's very trajectory into the inner solar system! -- is even more extraordinary. It definitely confirms that the overwhelming "message of Elenin" is--

    "Hyperdimensional Physics!"

    In the next three days, Elenin will encounter its SECOND major CME (according to Leonid Elenin's official website -- http://spaceobs.org/en/tag/comet-elenin/#); at that time, the H1-2 camera on Stereo-B (and maybe on STEREO-A) will be capable of acquiring new images, hopefully gathering even more precise scientific details on this extraordinary GEOMETRIC structure.

    Stay tuned TONIGHT .... "

    Thats 10pm - 2am PT

    http://www.coasttocoastam.com/

    I'm sure it will be on youtube soon after.....
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    Default Re: Proof that Comet Elenin doesn't exists! We have Nibiru instead!

    Quote Posted by Illuminaughty (here)
    I just don't think that little telescope is capable of imaging Pluto or anything out that far. And what he claims is an Astral Patroit (Patriot?) 18" telescope, is actually a Meade ETX-70. The telescope he's using is clearly not an 18" telescope. That would be 18" diameter optical mirror. Clearly not what is shown.

    (not my own words)
    Quote Then he says he's looking near Pluto for Elenin. Assuming this video was made around the date it was posted on YouTube, February 16th, or any time since Elenin was discovered in December, the angular separation between Elenin and Pluto would be over 95 degrees. Literally, they're in opposite sides of the sky. So why is he looking anywhere near Pluto for it?

    Then he looks around Saturn. While Elenin would be much closer to Saturn at this time, there are still over 15 degrees of separation between the two, too much to get both in the same frame at such high magnification as used in the video. He's zoomed in close enough to see Titan, which would have about 0.04 degrees of separation from Saturn.

    He then shows this image, which makes it look like Pluto, Neptune, and Eris are all close to each other in the sky
    Also, I've heard that nobody has been able to see "Nibiru/Planet X" because it is moving toward us from the southern hemisphere of space.
    ...just throwing that out there!
    Hi iluminaughty at the moment and several months ago Pluto and Neptune are roughly 55 degrees separate. In the sky the diameter of the moon or sun is half a degree so in the night sky 55 degrees apart would be impossible to be in the same frame as the first post here shows them. Puppycock. I am not an astronomer however I am an astrologer and I do know where the planets are.

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    Default Re: Is it Comet Elenin? Is it Nibiru? Elenin Updates.

    Does the ISS personnel being recalled remind anyone of the Ed Dames remote viewing prophecy where the "space shuttle " was recalled due to meteorites. Instead it's the International Space Station instead of the shuttle.

    Prophecy is an incorrect term, probably.
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    Default Re: Is it Comet Elenin? Is it Nibiru? Elenin Updates.

    Talk about extremes, you should hear the "official" NASA ( never a straight answer) story on this one......

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    Default Re: Is it Comet Elenin? Is it Nibiru? Elenin Updates.

    I love how they choose an old guy to chastise the public like children.

    The one statement that really stuck out me: no celestial object could cause earthquake here. Wow, that sure is a pretty big absolute blanket statement!

    He didn't even address the issue of a binary system. Sorry, guy, you represent a governmental agency, therefore, all you say is suspect.
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    Default Re: Is it Comet Elenin? Is it Nibiru? Elenin Updates.

    I have some knowledge (and if there is someone else with it too, would be a lot better) about Paul Eckart micro mimic deception reading. The guy on a NASA video is lying on every clue sentence. IMHO

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    Default Re: Is it Comet Elenin? Is it Nibiru? Elenin Updates.

    It seems a bit irrelevant as the latest story is that Elenin is breaking up.
    That does not explain the alignments and earth quakes though.
    I know nothing-- laughing
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    Default Re: Is it Comet Elenin? Is it Nibiru? Elenin Updates.

    the whole ark theory is probably based on arthur c clarkes 'rendezvous with rama'
    hoagland is a fan,hey,I am a fan also.
    try it you may like it.

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    Default Re: Is it Comet Elenin? Is it Nibiru? Elenin Updates.

    Quote Posted by greybeard (here)
    It seems a bit irrelevant as the latest story is that Elenin is breaking up.

    That does not explain the alignments and earth quakes though.

    I know nothing-- laughing

    Chris
    In this case we will certainly know soon enough ...

    Quote Note: there is a disinfo campaign going on to spread the word that Elenin is disintegrating... this is not true!!!

    From Richard C. Hoagland www.enterprisemission.com

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    Default Re: Proof that Comet Elenin doesn't exists! We have Nibiru instead!

    Thanks Amzer. Very interesting repost of the binary twin scenario.

    However, regarding Sitchin and Velikovsky:

    "To start with, Sitchin works is only found under the "Fiction" section of a library.

    "[...]
    "... and ... and... Velikovsky's stuff as well as McCanney's or those Thunderstorms of the Gods' stuff... awe inspiring, indeed..."


    OK, while has been observed that Sitchen's material is only found in the "fiction" section... but, the same is true of Velikovsky's stuff too.

    As anyone can see here:
    http://www.skepdic.com/velikov.html

    and here:
    http://forums.randi.org/archive/index.php/t-179497.html


    Clearly, Velikovsky was quite wrong about Venus. Further, evidently he copied many of his ideas from "Ragnarok" by Ignatius Donnelly:

    http://www.stanford.edu/~meehan/donnelly/velikov.html

    Happy searching,

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    Default Re: Is it Comet Elenin? Is it Nibiru? Elenin Updates.



    Not sure about this one.

    Here is more info on Sanni Ceto. Mel interviewed her in 2009, including the first hour of his interview with her, ( click on the Right)

    http://www.veritasshow.com/guests/20...0904-sceto.php

    The probe concept does, however confer with something that Alex Collier said, i will see if i can dig out the exact clip in that, it was pretty interesting....
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