Born into a secret Bloodline Order - How I got introduced to the world of Occultism

[WhiteFeather]

Posted by Deedee (here)
http://youtu.be/VlQw-wE-VTk

4.20 secs in.

You say that desire is a lower level existential matter. What I see missing in people's life is a "lack of desire". A lack of desire to even want to know who they are. I trust desire. Your sharing of your knowledge is appreciated. We all have information that we wish to share with others and we do on this site and others. Your message primarily in this particular video (from my perspective) projects that this is a prison planet and we are trapped. I wish to remind you that we are not "victims" here.

http://youtu.be/xYo-mvd5idI

Here at 2min 50 in you then suggest that we "desire" to connect with our higher self and so there is some contradiction here in your information. On one hand you say that desire is lower level and on the other hand you suggest that desire is one of the keys. The problem today Edward is that good information is generated but also mixed in with some dis-information and confusion and this is where we as humanity must find our own "discernment"... Thanks for sharing.

Nice DeeDee - Let it be known Avalonians, The Light Is Consuming The Dark As We Speak and The Light is exposing all the key players that were hidden in the room. The false system is falling apart very quickly. Can't you just feel it crumbling. I know i can.

[Mike]

Posted by Sierra (here)

Posted by Edward Alexander (here)

Posted by passiglight (here)
Hi alexaner,

You are joking right ???

obviously my interaction with yourself will end here,,,,,,,,,

cosmic love

No I'm not joking. Not sure why you got offended, I merely answered the questions you asked me.

But go well, take care

-EA

Still unclear ... oh well.

On the other hand dude, you gave a THANKS to Chinaski (good choice by the way, Chinaski is very respected around here), congratulations and welcome to Avalon Edward! One item taken of the list off my flags...

Sierra laughing her fool head off again

can you believe i was able to get that "thanks" Sierra??? i just get so much satisfaction from staring at that "1" next to Edward's thanks meter that i selfishly hope he thanks nobody else! lol!

no but seriously i just wanted to see if Edward had a sense of humor is all. you passed the test Edward! it doesn't make you a 33rd degree Avalonian or anything like that, but it does prove you can laugh at yourself a bit. well played.

[christian]

@Deedee

The buddhists have many differents words and concepts for desire, it's easy to see how desire can be something that bears pain and how it can be something, that paves the way to enlightenment, depending on what is desired and why it is desired.

[Unified Serenity]

[QUOTE=Chinaski;297354no but seriously i just wanted to see if Edward had a sense of humor is all. you passed the test Edward! it doesn't make you a 33rd degree Avalonian or anything like that, but it does prove you can laugh at yourself a bit. well played.[/QUOTE]

I wanna join the Avalonian 33rd degree club! I won't do any of those silly pledges or paddling, hmmmm well maybe a lil paddling, but nothing too damaging. So how do we get tapped? smirks

[Fred Steeves]

Posted by Unified Serenity (here)
I won't do any of those silly pledges or paddling, hmmmm well maybe a lil paddling, but nothing too damaging. So how do we get tapped? smirks

Ooooooohhhhh, you naughty girl.....Obviously we can't tie a little ribbon round yer winky like Skull & Bones, but.........We can get creative I'm sure........How badly do you want your degree?

I'm sorry, couldn't help myself. Bad Fred!!! 10 lashes for me!!!

[Ria]

Sierra, I think your being a we bit naughty,
I have you know I have met a number of King Tut(s)
And I have it, on good authority I am his mother.
Now what is the name Queen Nef-of, Nefatiti, my spelling is hopeless.

[Deedee]

Posted by chiquetet (here)
@Deedee

The buddhists have many differents words and concepts for desire, it's easy to see how desire can be something that bears pain and how it can be something, that paves the way to enlightenment, depending on what is desired and why it is desired.

Indeed it is not just buddhists that have many different words and concepts for desire. I can only speak for myself here when talking about desire. Desire does not bring me pain but joy. When I desire to read I just pick up a book and read... desire fulfilled in that moment.

[Unified Serenity]

Posted by Fred S. (here)

Posted by Unified Serenity (here)
I won't do any of those silly pledges or paddling, hmmmm well maybe a lil paddling, but nothing too damaging. So how do we get tapped? smirks

Ooooooohhhhh, you naughty girl.....Obviously we can't tie a little ribbon round yer winky like Skull & Bones, but.........We can get creative I'm sure........How badly do you want your degree?

I'm sorry, couldn't help myself. Bad Fred!!! 10 lashes for me!!!

Nearly spit out my soup on that one Fred. Such a naughty bunch we are. Hmmm, let's see, what perks does a 33rd level Avalonian get me?

[Swanette]

Posted by chiquetet (here)

Posted by Omniverse (here)

Posted by Edward Alexander (here)
We are here trapped in physical bodies, and not here to learn or develop ourselves.

So you are saying we are fully developed? O.o Can you please tell me how you know this is truth as to preach it as truth?

Saying we are not here to learn suggests we are the apex of development for soul. I don't resonate with that. I politely disagree. However I am open to you explaining how you think you know this with enough confidence to say it as fact... And do not hold an ego bias blindly to serve as stagnating my ability to see where I may be wrong when decisively shown such.

I agree with what both of you stated, I figure it's semantics. We are all in the mind of God and God cannot be improved. Hence we are not meant to improve but to be able to express all the potential of God and get rid of our limitations, which could be called a development, whatever... It's about experiencing, from what I've heard

Posted by Omniverse (here)

Posted by Edward Alexander (here)
I am here to let people know about this Trap System , and help them get free from it and escape the cycles of reincarnations.

So you are saying reincarnations are a universal design flaw?

Buddha talks about breaking free from the wheel of Karma and reincarnation. Information about how the current system struggles to keep people within that cycle and oblivious to greater truths is legion. How do you get the idea, that he suggests reincarnation is a design flaw?

Thank you, I also have found that info resonates with me. Based on other peoples teachings/works, I have just recently discovered this. That we are from Source and it is already perfect so because we are already perfect (but don't realize it) many of us are now learning how to rise up, or vibrate up to another level to break free from the cycle of reincarnation and Karma.

[Edward Alexander]

I will try get to respond to some posts now since I'm back for a while. Gets a bit difficult when people are posting so much stuff that is completely off-topic and starting new discussions about such etc, lots of pages here but a large amount of it all is off the topic.

Now I'm not some grumpy fellow, I have no problem with people disagreeing with anything I say, or calling me a liar or worse, or for various reasons being directly angry and furious at me, name-calling etc. I don't take such personally. For me such only tells me something about those kind of people and is just a quiet observation. This is a serious topic though, as far I am concerned, and if someone want to discuss it intelligently and with some decency that would be appreciated. Any questions are also welcome, as I mentioned a bit earlier, since one of the main reasons for me being here is to see if I can offer you anything practical and useful that can be of your benefit.

Cheers

[Deedee]

Edward,

It's not just about us asking you questions and you giving (your) answers. You said yourself that you do not know everything and that you can learn also from us. Let us learn together and put the ego aside. You say this is a serious topic. Perhaps Charles said the same thing too.. it doesn't much matter though, many people on this forum have already been around that block and some may want to go there again. A question for you... Can you enjoy the simple pleasures in this life such as an epsom salt bubblebath... a candlelight dinner with a friend or loved one... the simple satisfaction of drying down your doggie after she or he has swam happily in the pool for an hour.... Acknowledging and appreciating the morning sun... noticing when you hear a bird chirp how your senses have become heightened... Now you may consider this to be "off topic".. but I have no desire to commune with you on facebook or anywhere else for that matter. You are here and so are we.. so let's "dance" shall we?

[Camilo]

In all honesty I don't see why we should believe anything you're saying, much less how it can be of benefit to anyone here. Secrecy has been the mother of all misunderstandings and bad intentioned acts against humanity. First come clean and say what are you real intentions and how is any of what you are saying be of benefit to anyone at all?......if you really want to come clean bring it all out, not just what you wish or think is appropriate.

[thunder24]

how many of your order are on Avalon Edward A.?

Have you remotely viewed or jumped in to any of avalon's minds to see where we are conscious wise, what we do?

peace

[enfoldedblue]

Ha ha ha it's funny because many years ago I was told by someone that I had been King Tut...no joke!. But what I have come to understand is that we are all arrangements of energy. Right now I am an arrangement of energy that is called Christy Lavers...this is my place of learning ATM..but eventually my consciousness will leave this arrangement and move into another energy arrangement. However the energy arrangement that is called CL will not cease to exist when I move on (because it is not me...I am just consciousness...pure and simple)...it will always be there...available to anyone who has something to learn from this CL vibration. Likely in other timelines/realms there are other energies animating the CL vibration. To me the CL vibration is a bit like a costume that that I can wear that allows me to experience the world in the flavour of CL. In the same way historical figures (well really everyone) are costumes that can be animated by our energies. Because of this it is not only possible, but rather likely, that many people have worn the same costume. Anyway I hope this makes some sense to some...it is very difficult to speak about this because of its fluid nature.

PS I agree with Fred and Sierra.... the veils have dissolved and the time of secrecy is over...all is there for anyone willing to look...no need for teaching from outside sources anymore...it's all right there.
LOVE ALLways, c

[Rosco1]

edward

How about revealing a 'Powerful Positive Ritual' of your secret group that would benefit humanity against the tyrants and elites of the world ?

Surely if you did reveal this then more people that practice this ritual, the more chance we would have of success of a peaceful and enlightened world to live in.

Bet you won't tell us though!

[Poly Hedra]

Hey Edward, Hope your keeping well. This may be a long shot but I'll give it a go, do you have information about using visual symbols and sounds to help me/people unblock, and use them in my video work to do the same for others?

All the best.

[Deedee]

@ Edward As an Order it has maintained itself more or less unknown to the public, and very few have had the privilege of being a member through all these hundreds of years it has existed since it was founded. In fact, it rarely had more than a couple hundred members in total alive at the same time. But, its purpose was not to keep the knowledge, insights, teachings and its general work away from the public, but rather the opposite, its work was to spread such to those people around them, in the gentlest ways and through philosophical discussions and participation in various arts and influencing different other orders and societies of the time.

Since very few have had the "priviledge" of being a member throughout all these years and the purpose of the Order being to spread the knowledge, insights, teachings and its general work then please tell why it's a "priviledge" to be in the Order. Are there some secret free "sexy" benefits to being a Member? I believe it all happens.. One Mind at a time... Upon reflection and on one level it could look as if the reason this privileged Order became enacted was to spread dis-information to capture the steering of the Minds of society in one direction or another... what's that called again? Ah yes.. Sheeple as in let's "herd the cattle"... and bring them "over here". A simple concept I admit but a concept nevertheless.

[Edward Alexander]

Posted by Camilo (here)
In all honesty I don't see why we should believe anything you're saying, much less how it can be of benefit to anyone here. Secrecy has been the mother of all misunderstandings and bad intentioned acts against humanity. First come clean and say what are you real intentions and how is any of what you are saying be of benefit to anyone at all?......if you really want to come clean bring it all out, not just what you wish or think is appropriate.

I already stated in some posts back what my Order's agenda is, and this is the second time I have to tell it again - some details were given in this specific post:
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?29256-Born-into-a-secret-Bloodline-Order-How-I-got-introduced-to-the-world-of-Occultism&p=296771&viewfull=1#post296771

[Edward Alexander]

Posted by ponda (here)
Are you implying that we are all being constantly controlled and monitored by 'the matrix' or 'the trap system' through direct mind control from a higher dimensional AI construct or a higher dimensional entity or a combination of astral entities/parasites ?

Or is it possibly a combination of indirect mind control via conditioning for the masses and a more direct form of mind control for the elite ?

Also in your opinion how is the Trap System constructed from a 3d perspective ?

I suspect that what the negative higher dimensional controllers fear most is the 'Collective Consciousness' rising or becoming more awakened.Exactly what appears to be happening right now.Interesting times ahead.

cheers

Yes, we are constantly controlled and manipulated through many different means, methods and sources. I wrote an article specifically on this subject and posted it in this forum some time back. You can read it here: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?26979-External-Influences-on-your-Mind-Body-an-introduction

It's fairly long and detailed taking all the different methods and influences I'm aware of into consideration. I'd quote it here if it wasnt so long, so better just go there and read it and see if you find it any useful or insightful.

Regarding the construction of the Trap System from a 3d perspective, I am not completely sure what you mean. It is not a physical structure, though it covers the physical world, and it is constructed in the astral planes. It can be interacted with from the Physical world, through various practices such as magic and rituals, astral projection etc.

[Edward Alexander]

[QUOTE=Wiremu2011;296786]

Posted by Edward Alexander (here)
Thanks for your posts bro. One question that's intrigued me, and I'm assuming you're able to answer it, given you're in the "know", is that, would it be correct to say that the Luciferien Soul Complex was ordered by "The Council" in agreement with Yahweh to be the catalyst or more specifically, the negative cataylst that would challenge and exten how we played out this so called cosmic "game" to determine the type/level of density the individual soul would "shift" to, as we go through these so called coming "changes"?
Would it be fact that once one knows or finally wakes up to this "game" collectively and for reasons unbeknown to most, that it would change our whole perspective in what we think is the mystery of life - that we are and always have been one with creator and amongst ourselves?
Hope this makes sense. Thanks

No, I've not seen any indications on what you suggest regarding some agreement with Luciferian Soul Complex and "The Council" along with Yahweh. It seems the human physical body was created for the purpose of trapping souls here, to keep us here, not to eventually go through any "shift" process. The densities you speak of are already accessible and we all end up in them at death, its nothing you can "shift" to while still physically alive. You can only temporarily visit them through astral projection, or move over when dying.

But yes, once you wake up and realize your true being and the levels of existence, it will change your whole perspective and make you understand and see things the way they really are. This will also make you able to finally "develop" and move on to the next levels of existence and mysteries that awaits you there. We are indeed always connected with the Source (God) and eachother, though this is not necessarily something one would be consciously aware of