Born into a secret Bloodline Order - How I got introduced to the world of Occultism

[ponda]

I meant from your perspective.

So it is a higher dimensional construct ? is it alive or aware of itself ? Is it controlled and by what ?

Thanks for answering the q's

[dddanieljjjamesss]

Only one question
Where do I sign up?
Feel free to send me a message.
I'll make my judgement calls once I'm on the other side of this wall.

[Decibellistics]

So mote it be lol

What is the next existence?

Is the jist of what you are saying more or less Multi-Dimensionality.

[aranuk]

Edward you said that you do not sell anything but your website sells astrology,tarot, services for $60 a go. Are you here to drum up some business for yourself? Are things getting expensive in Argentina for you and your girlfriend?

Stan

[WhiteFeather]

I'm Starting to get a bad taste in my mouth now, first the smell and now the taste. My spider senses are starting to tingle. This is starting to turn into an Atticus-Charles fiasco.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=5Kek3GqbsTk

[72MAV27]

hey Edward. whats up?
i read your original post and the first page of peoples questions. so i'm not sure if this was asked. but if it was i'll go back and find the answer

ok. so what i'm wondering is what kind of knowledge, rituals or techniques did the "renegade" members who left the orders and pretty much run the world right now take? it seems like if they are just a small handfull of deserters they shouldn't be a problem for all of the well intentioned enlightened members to handle. especially since the "good guys" must have the same knowledge as the "bad guys".

or are they just allowing them to keep power for a higher purpose?

[Edward Alexander]

Posted by aranuk (here)
Edward you said that you do not sell anything but your website sells astrology,tarot, services for $60 a go. Are you here to drum up some business for yourself? Are things getting expensive in Argentina for you and your girlfriend?

Stan

Since I answered a similar question elsewhere just a minute ago I will copy that answer over to you here:

I can tell you that what I'm doing have nothing to do with money, and I implemented this donation feature so people who feel like it can contribute with something that will go directly towards the maintenance and hosting service of the website etc. It is there as a way for people to be able to give something back towards the work I do, simply because a few people enjoy to contribute to work they support and find useful. I am not making any money on that, nor do I need to make any money from this work as I already am the president of a company that is doing very well and brings me more money than I have an actual use for. As far as the services I have available, the only reason I charge for this is due to all the work, time and efforts that must be put into it, in turn making me unable to focus on or participate in anything else while doing that - such services takes generally 2 full days of work for one person and is very detailed and complex. People sent me too much requests for doing such for them, since I used to do it for free, but the requests got more than would be possible for me to handle and continue doing. I've been putting out information and exposing and revealing secrets of the world and existence, and running the website, for many years, its a vast resource filled with information available for each and anyone to go through as they want. I do not even offer those mentioned services any more, even if its still listed on the website, last time i did provide any such service is close to 2 years ago now and I'll probably remove the offer from my website since I really dont have time to do such services anymore. And if you are curious, in total I made around $250 on such services in the several years I've had that site running, and I've received a monumental $20 in total donations the last year or so. Now also think alittle where you are sitting and coming with such claims, you're on a forum that used to DEMAND people to pay for membership - and I myself was one of those who put money into that and paid for access. So many people were in rage because of that, and large amounts of visitors left, so in the end they were forced to make it free again. They still have a donation feature to get money through. With your logic, that means you agree that Project Avalon also are only "drumming up a business" and doing it all to get some green in their hands

People who think I for some reason spend so much time on this to "make money" are fairly ludicrous, since I do not sell one single piece of the information or access to it, all my material is completely freely available, that goes for videos and coming documentaries as well as a large book I'm writing that all is to be published for free, and always will be free, since the whole purpose for me is to share this information with people because I believe they deserve to know the Truth and I will not charge money for sharing truth with people, even the idea of that is absurd to me.

What I'm doing is not some simple and fun little joyride sitting on the butt in front of the computer, it is a lot of work and efforts put into it, and many risks and problems in return. I have been public and exposed and revealed the secrets of the world and existence for many years now, and various groups have been trying to shut me down since the very beginning, from being harassed and threatened by the governments, getting police on my door to search my place, having had my computers with large amounts of information on them confiscated and never returned to me, been told directly face to face by certain individuals there within to stop my work and discontinue the spreading of the information I do, I've had direct attacks upon me from several places, gotten guns up in my face with threats to myself and my family, been arrested and falsely accused for ridiculous things and threatened with jail, been monitored and under surveillance, I had my website taken down, forcing me to open it up on a server in a different country and a new domain, still frequent attacks on my websites trying to get my domains blacklisted from Google and hard for people to find and access, gotten several suspicious computer failures out of nowhere that rendered my hard drives useless thus losing vast amounts of work and information and other material several times on different computers, had to go as far as moving from my country because of all the harassment and threats and problems cause upon myself and my family, then had my passport invoked so i cant get back or go anywhere else at all, they shut my bank accounts down to try stop me by ruining my economic situation, my paypal account got mysteriously shut down, even the paypal account of a family member that let me use theirs for a while when my own was gone got their shut down again without any proper explanation, later on got some new credit cards invalidated, and i have been majorly set back many different times because of their stubbornness but I always come back and they wont manage to shut me silent, luckily i have other groups and individuals on my side in this conflict that assist me and support me and also protect me from more extreme actions.

So no, i dont think anyone would go through all that just to try make a few bucks, there are much easier and nicer ways to make money - and I already got enough money in the first place so its not even an issue for me since I'm running a very successful company, and also director of another company thats doing well.

There's a lot of things going on in my end of the line that most of you have no idea about, directly because i am sharing such information with you. And that these attacks and attempts at shutting me down is performed against me is not something I worry much about personally since I know they wont succeed but only causing temporarily humps in the road, and I am dedicated completely to my work and all their efforts at pushing me away only shows me how important it is to get all this information out in public.

All the work I'm doing, and my Order is dedicated to, is for all of You, not for me or us, but for Mankind as a whole

[christian]

Posted by Edward Alexander (here)
It seems the human physical body was created for the purpose of trapping souls here, to keep us here, not to eventually go through any "shift" process. The densities you speak of are already accessible and we all end up in them at death, its nothing you can "shift" to while still physically alive. You can only temporarily visit them through astral projection, or move over when dying.

This contradicts what you wrote here: http://www.pleiadiantalk.com/2011/04/trap-system-secrets-never-before.html

"Some managed to escape as they could see what was coming and did not get tricked like the majority and thus they managed to escape and enter other realms, some of you know these original peoples, interdimensional ones at they were then and not physical as now, as the Atlanteans. And now you are learning from this mistake and slowly realizing it and on your way to let the clouds clear and let the light in from your True Origins and the Source of All."

And what about the stories from certain Lemurians or the Mayans, where some people or even virtually all the population did make a shift to higher realms of existence, also transmuting their 3d bodies?

[christian]

Posted by Edward Alexander (here)

Posted by Fred S. (here)
I'm also quite surprised at the blinders a grand master seems to have on. Have the keepers of the flame not noticed that the days of seekers needing the blessings and approval from secret orders to attain their answers are over? The Invisible College has also awakened from her long seclusion, and the Aether is ripe with her insights for those who care to notice and pluck the sweet fruits.

I would not agree to the above. You are of course free to believe that, but i can't see that what you describe will happen. I'm working with some higher orders myself, such as the Great White Brotherhood, as well as with my various spirit guides, guardian angels and Inner Guide, have not seen anything in either of those places, nor by my own intuition either, supporting what you just said. Then again , speaking of picking fruit, thats a fair analogy of what members do when joining the Order as well.

This contradicts what you wrote on your blog, Edward.

"Learning comes from Higher Consciousness and is independent on Physical conditions. We are all eternal beings with limitless knowledge and power already, free to explore the endless areas of existence, if only we learn to separate and be free from these bloody stumps we are so trapped within."

From what I read from Edward here and on his blog, I disagree with some of the content (some of that in turn might be semantics), there are some internal contradictions and with some statements I do agree, from which I want to highlight this, taken from his blog:

"The most important thing you can ever study is Yourself, and the best person to ever listen to is You, and more people should spend more time on both those things.

You can listen to me and make what you want of what I say, but truly listen to yourself instead of anyone else to find the real answers.

I applaude those of you whom not blindly believing anything, in fact I highly praise people who follow their own intuition and highly encourage people to not listen to what I say as being facts, but look some up yourself and listen to your inner guide, [...] this world has its great share of way too gullible people who believe anything they are told, that is also one of the reasons I am here to tell them to not listen to what I say or what anyone else say - the greatest truth you can find you will find from within yourself."

[thunder24]

Posted by Edward Alexander (here)
No, I've not seen any indications on what you suggest regarding some agreement with Luciferian Soul Complex and "The Council" along with Yahweh. It seems the human physical body was created for the purpose of trapping souls here, to keep us here, not to eventually go through any "shift" process. The densities you speak of are already accessible and we all end up in them at death, its nothing you can "shift" to while still physically alive. You can only temporarily visit them through astral projection, or move over when dying.

But yes, once you wake up and realize your true being and the levels of existence, it will change your whole perspective and make you understand and see things the way they really are. This will also make you able to finally "develop" and move on to the next levels of existence and mysteries that awaits you there. We are indeed always connected with the Source (God) and eachother, though this is not necessarily something one would be consciously aware of

when you say trap us here, is the trap only for in the body, cause then you say on death "if" develeoped we move to the next levels?

who deteremines our progress if we have "developed" enough?

How were we trapped?

peace

[Rosco1]

edward,

How can you be sure of the rituals are of benefit to humanity and are not passed down from the darkside ?

You said that you use things; 'such as the Great White Brotherhood, as well as with my various spirit guides, guardian angels and Inner Guide'.

Here is an explanation of the Great White Brotherhood:
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/so...therhood06.htm

This is taken from the above site; “Satan is the Deputy Grandmaster of the Great White Lodge (also known as the 'Great White Brotherhood'), with other spiritual members being demons”.

Also you stated that you use freemasonry as well.
David Icke states that the God of freemasonry is Lucifer (the light bearer)
http://www.davidicke.com/articles/se...of-freemasonry

That being the case with a combination of Freemasonry & the Great White Brotherhood', are we to assume you are here under false pretences ?


These great teachers (be that Jesus, Buddha etc) from the past certainly did answer 'the peoples questions', but also these teachers imparted knowledge of great things at the time and of things yet to come.

You have imparted nothing voluntary so far despite many members asking you to.

Why ?

What are you afraid of ?

Why not impart some of the knowledge your group has that is of benefit to mankind ?

Ahhhhh of course you can't!

Sssshhhhh... It's a secret!

Only initiated people can know of such things as mankind will not be able to handle the truth!

Oh how often this is used to withhold information from the common people of the world.

Bet you won't ask my latest questions here either!

[The One]

Bonjour

One question, you state that

It seems the human physical body was created for the purpose of trapping souls here, to keep us here

Can i ask what the reason behind this is and if we wasn’t trapped here where would we go. Who’s using the tools to keep us here.

Apologies in advance if this as already been covered

[christian]

Posted by The One (here)
Bonjour

One question, you state that

It seems the human physical body was created for the purpose of trapping souls here, to keep us here

Can i ask what the reason behind this is and if we wasn’t trapped here where would we go. Who’s using the tools to keep us here.

Apologies in advance if this as already been covered

http://www.pleiadiantalk.com/2011/04/trap-system-secrets-never-before.html

For the record: Not going through the thread (and it's not yet 50+ pages), to see if it had already been answered or at least adressed, when one has a question, seems somewhat impolite to me, especially if one demands an answer from Edward for every question raised in here.

[The One]

Posted by chiquetet (here)

Posted by The One (here)
Bonjour

One question, you state that

It seems the human physical body was created for the purpose of trapping souls here, to keep us here

Can i ask what the reason behind this is and if we wasn’t trapped here where would we go. Who’s using the tools to keep us here.

Apologies in advance if this as already been covered

http://www.pleiadiantalk.com/2011/04/trap-system-secrets-never-before.html

For the record: Not going through the thread (and it's not yet 50+ pages), to see if it had already been answered or at least adressed, when one has a question, seems somewhat impolite to me, especially if one demands an answer from Edward for every question raised in here.

if one demands an answer from Edward for every question raised in here

Thank you for that and can i just make it clear i do not demand of have never demanded a question.I have asked theres a difference.

[spiritguide]

Edward, thank you for sharing your info in a positive way about positive ways. My question is how has negativity creeped into this thread? ...Personally I thank you for sharing and hope you keep sharing the positive. ....All need to look within and see what emits and if it is not wise then it is not of benefit to the good....Judge not lest ye be judged.
Peace!

[Poly Hedra]

What if Every time Bill and kerry were approached by someone over the years, instead of hearing them out, they just shot them down, judged, insulted and told them to go away because they were full of BS?
Would we all be here now on this forum?
Even if you are suspiscious of someones intentions, could you not have a measured approach? Listen, come to conclusions and politely question their theories, motives and information?
I am interested in what Edward has to say but this does not mean I am gullible, so extreme!
I may or may not put in any merit in what he has to say but it does not give me the right to insult him and aggresively pick pick away. I guess the people who have no patience and just jump straight in there with demanding aggression will just skim past this post anyway. UUurgh!

[<8>]

Posted by conec (here)
What if Every time Bill and kerry were approached by someone over the years, instead of hearing them out, they just shot them down, judged, insulted and told them to go away because they were full of BS?
Would we all be here now on this forum?
Even if you are suspiscious of someones intentions, could you not have a measured approach? Listen, come to conclusions and politely question their theories, motives and information?
I am interested in what Edward has to say but this does not mean I am gullible, so extreme!
I may or may not put in any merit in what he has to say but it does not give me the right to insult him and aggresively pick pick away. I guess the people who have no patience and just jump straight in there with demanding aggression will just skim past this post anyway. UUurgh!

A secret society who done good work for the human race for a millenia...eeee i i begg the diffrent my friend.

If you are an student of history you must be an idiot if you dont take that as a slap in the face.

Nevertheless i personally forgave him and put no blame on him nor do i on anyone else.

But i can understand there can be hard words when you are claiming a thing like this.

Who are you to judge,?? Look at the world and its history.

If Edward Alexander cant take some heat, like we should put at the leaders at the first place.

I personally say good riddance to him if he leaves.

[Fred Steeves]

Posted by <8> (here)

I personally say good riddance to him if he leaves.

I couldn't disagree more with that statement...

[<8>]

Posted by Fred S. (here)

Posted by <8> (here)

I personally say good riddance to him if he leaves.

I couldn't disagree more with that statement...

Good for you Fred...

But it was an personall statement..

[christian]

Posted by <8> (here)
A secret society who done good work for the human race for a millenia...eeee i i begg the diffrent my friend.

From my understanding, there are lots of benevolent E.T.s factions out there. Their prime directive is non-interference. Yet they surely have people on the earth, who they have contact with, but in a rather secretive way, hence it's a secret society. So why not?

The great library of Alexandria was savaged, the inquisition haunted large parts of the world, so it's reasonable, that secret societies would have tried to preserve knowledge that was deemed heretical.