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    Default Re: Elenin / Nibiru timeline and effects

    hmmm... need to look further into this... a quick google search brings up a lot of stuff as soon as 1 minute ago on elenin possibly exploding.... thanks...
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    Default Re: Is it Comet Elenin? Is it Nibiru? Elenin Updates.

    Quote Posted by greybeard (here)
    There is no Nibiru-- so claims the presenter of the video who is also an author.
    Its a long video but if you have time its worth a view.
    All down to frequencies.
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    I wrote off "nibiru" a long time ago...

    Elenin and its interaction with the sun / earth as a magnetic /gravitational amplifyer is what I'm wondering about now.... anyone know when that "ribbon of energy" is supose to hit the earth? I wouldnt be supprized if it was in october..
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    Default Re: Is it Comet Elenin? Is it Nibiru? Elenin Updates.

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    Quote Posted by greybeard (here)
    There is no Nibiru-- so claims the presenter of the video who is also an author.
    Its a long video but if you have time its worth a view.
    All down to frequencies.
    Chris
    I wrote off "nibiru" a long time ago...

    Elenin and its interaction with the sun / earth as a magnetic /gravitational amplifyer is what I'm wondering about now.... anyone know when that "ribbon of energy" is supose to hit the earth? I wouldnt be supprized if it was in october..

    Seems Elenin is disintegrating, evidence for that is mounting.
    David Sereda said that the ribbon would arrive December 2012 but that was well over a year ago and he did say it was possible it would speed up-- it is immense.
    I cant find the video where he mentioned this.
    October 29th 2011 seems to be the accurate date for the end of the Mayan calender.

    Not long to wait thats for sure.

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    Default Re: Is it Comet Elenin? Is it Nibiru? Elenin Updates.

    I really don't understand the fear behind Elenin, if it was a really big comet perhaps but it's just a regular one. How come something so small compared with the sun and earth's size can possible have the effect of causing earthqueakes? It just doesn't make any sense to me.

    I always wonder who started this Elenin "hype" and for what reasons. If the comet was discovered just last december and in March was so far away, how could it have any effect on earth?

    I don't know but I think people are just following the herd of youtubers that are making videos galore just to make some money.

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    Note: I've been able to find the link to the pdf of the original document for which this thread was started : http://www.scribd.com/doc/61802805/Nibiru-Final-Update

    I also just viewed the video showing the supposed break up Elenin. I'm not certain of what I had viewed, but it did seem to show a large explosion with an emanating shock wave that appeared to cause Elenin's breaking into two pieces. It is suggested that 'Jupiter' was somehow involved. However, Jupiter is EXTREMELY far away, and could not have had Anything to do with this so-called explosion.

    Also, after viewing this 'encounter' in another video https://youtube.com/watch?v=qNbogW-k_e8 - it seemed to me that another satellite was approaching from below Elenin, and, just as the shock wave reached Elenin, the other satellite passed either behind, or in front of Elenin, giving the impression that Elenin separated into two objects.

    It will take some more observations and analysis (and time) to properly sort this out. All this said, I can picture tptw doing Anything to prevent humankind's 'knowing' of what is soon to happen. I do have faith in the fact that there are far more powerful (and benevolent) entities at work here.

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    Default Re: Is it Comet Elenin? Is it Nibiru? Elenin Updates.

    Quote Posted by greybeard (here)
    Seems Elenin is disintegrating, evidence for that is mounting.
    David Sereda said that the ribbon would arrive December 2012 but that was well over a year ago and he did say it was possible it would speed up-- it is immense.
    I cant find the video where he mentioned this.
    October 29th 2011 seems to be the accurate date for the end of the Mayan calender.

    Not long to wait thats for sure.

    Regards Chris
    28th of october is what I keep reading (but I'm sure a wide error margine is due)

    Elenin disinegrating... meh, I still have yet to actually see it with my eyes, so its all just "text on a screen" to me (ultimately) why would it disinegrate now??

    I'll put that one to the side untill a little more piles up.. being an early adopter <of anything> never seems to work well for me


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    I really don't understand the fear behind Elenin, if it was a really big comet perhaps but it's just a regular one. How come something so small compared with the sun and earth's size can possible have the effect of causing earthqueakes? It just doesn't make any sense to me.

    I always wonder who started this Elenin "hype" and for what reasons. If the comet was discovered just last december and in March was so far away, how could it have any effect on earth?

    I don't know but I think people are just following the herd of youtubers that are making videos galore just to make some money.
    Lots of good speculation on elenin & historical "land marks"

    for example, the statue of liberty (or hell, most representations of liberty) can be equated to elenin over the constellation virgo (in her "hand" as it were) which is also a resonant history lesson,, when the "destroyer" (red kachina?) is in virgo's (virgin, justice, many names.. ISIS?) hand this is the pre warning for.... disaster? drastic change? could this be a pre-planted fear to put you out of a receptive mode for what is known to be a good, yet feared thing? (DNA upgrade theory..)

    I don't have any answers, but I'm certainly not afraid.


    as for how it (elenin) could have an effect.. I expect it will soon be publicaly known that we have been very wrong about the universe for a long time... quantum physics is no longer a "mystery" science & the "electro-magnetic universe" model (though I feel it should be magnetic/gravitational not electromagnetic for more accuracy) the "clouds" we see in space are actually fields of plasma & once you start thinking about standing waves, wave propigation & scalar waves along with the bodies & their spesific locations (a long with the fact that gravity and magnatism can be amplified ENDLESSLY with no violations in physics)... well it should make a lot more sense
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    Default Re: Is it Comet Elenin? Is it Nibiru? Elenin Updates.

    Hey guys! Just ran across this! WOw!

    Go to the link and take a look at additional links and info...research, research, research.

    Elenin explodes - MASSIVE explosion DISINTEGRATES

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    Default Re: Is it Comet Elenin? Is it Nibiru? Elenin Updates.

    @SKIBADABOMSKI: It sounds like a hoax. If I had time to play around with it I'd take the video, strip out the audio and drop it into Logic for some audio editing and first off, flip it around. It sounds like it's a human voice recorded in a noisy environment (like near a computer fan), then the sound turned backwards and slowed down. Even at 400% it still sounds 400% too slow. Plus, where did the poorly written text for the video come from? Looks suspicious.

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    Default Re: Is it Comet Elenin? Is it Nibiru? Elenin Updates.

    Now this is very strange: a 2-tailed comet? How is that even possible? And this is the same as the pics from about 2 weeks ago in Australia. Strange...

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    Default Re: Is it Comet Elenin? Is it Nibiru? Elenin Updates.

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    Hey guys! Just ran across this! WOw!

    Go to the link and take a look at additional links and info...research, research, research.

    Elenin explodes - MASSIVE explosion DISINTEGRATES
    Interesting.. that's the type of reaction I'm curious about.. except from our sun when elenin is between the sun and us....
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    Default Re: Is it Comet Elenin? Is it Nibiru? Elenin Updates.

    I don't think that an explosion from Jupiter or near Jupiter would travel 600 million miles and not damage anything else ie; Mercury but would destroy Elenin. I think it was just a flare.

    The radio signals that I posted could be anything but this is what I believe we will be finding. Elenin is actually like a flying pyramid. Richard H. said this. Can you imagine that !!

    A pyramid craft in orbit. Whoa !! some funky stuff going on here..
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    Default Re: Is it Comet Elenin? Is it Nibiru? Elenin Updates.

    Hi all

    Thought this may be of some interest, they yap a bit at the start but gets interesting







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    Default Re: Is it Comet Elenin? Is it Nibiru? Elenin Updates.

    Quote Posted by MorningSong (here)
    Hey guys! Just ran across this! WOw!

    Go to the link and take a look at additional links and info...research, research, research.

    Elenin explodes - MASSIVE explosion DISINTEGRATES

    Hi MorningSong!

    What happened to logic and "discernment?":

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    • You are not seeing an explosion, you are seeing a lens flare as the camera pans left. And Jupiter and Elenin are so far apart, it would take DAYS for any explosion to reach Elenin, not seconds like shown here. As an amateur astronomer, I have been watching Jupiter a lot lately, there has been no explosions. Please check things out better before you scare people, when these things go viral, brains also go viral, if you know what I mean.Znobyrd 12 hours ago 13

    • Disinfo!
      Please, Elenin hit in seconds after a explosion took place on Jupiter? Come on man....
      Elenin is 600million miles away from Jupiter, no way it can be struck so quickly
      Maybe, maybe the sun can have this effect after a X7 solarflare but thats it.
      camel303 3 hours ago 5
    Sensational... yes... me think it's time for this as a reminder:

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    This thread is inspired by one of the recent 'disclosure prediction' threads that turned out to be yet another deliberate hoax.

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    We don't need this kind of nonsense in a climate of the times that could not be more serious. There ARE very critical things happening quietly in the world, and the real signals get lost in all the 'noise'.

    Be very sure that this is intended.

    Folks, I ask you: don't needlessly add to the noise.

    I always wanted Avalon to be about quality rather than quantity: for people to be able to come here quickly and find a digest of good information and intelligent discussion.

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    I'm no friend or fan of ATS, but the mods there immediately deleted a thread about the recent "The Agency" 'prediction' of a 'radioactive satellite' over Munich on 20 October, that was really a forecast comet - not only because it was clearly false, but because the writer urged that it must 'go viral'.

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    I want to make the real truth easier to see by flitering out the distractions - some of which are deliberate, and some of which are just naive.

    In 2005-6 I was closely involved in the 'Serpo story'. It was a really valuable experience. Much of that was nonsense (and it got more and more ridiculous as the 'disclosure' was sabotaged from inside): but some was certainly true. It was worth discussing at first until it just became way too crazy and was eventually completely derailed. By that time I had abandoned it.

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    Default Re: Is it Comet Elenin? Is it Nibiru? Elenin Updates.

    As for Hoagland, if he keeps shooting with is mouth, he won't have any hands left to hold his crutches...

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    IS ELENIN BREAKING UP?? COMMENT FROM RICHARD C. HOAGLAND - EXCLUSIVE
    ...."No time ... and actually, a bit of an oxymoron:
    How can an artificial object -- demonstrably NOT an "ordinary comet" now -- physically "disintegrate?"

    We have NO actual images of this "disintegration," only Internet claims -- endlessly repeated (of course) ....

    Those claims, in fact, are based on ONE "iffy" observation the last couple days, by a SINGLE ground-based, Australian amateur astronomer -- trying to view Elenin "one last time" before it gets too close to sun ... as seen from the Southern Hemisphere.
    The statement is based on his perception that "Elenin seems to have dimmed."


    From: http://sydneystargazers.com/

    The Death of Comet Elenin Part 1


    The Death of Comet Elenin Part 2


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    Default Re: Is it Comet Elenin? Is it Nibiru? Elenin Updates.

    OK fine, Amzero. What a cutting way to say "hey, I think you're wrong, dearheart!".

    Now that I have given you my energy (was going to say "you stole")....it went "swoosh" like an untied helium balloon. WOW! What a bummer!

    I refuse to post anything further on this thread. You will be glad in your bliss.

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    Default Re: Is it Comet Elenin? Is it Nibiru? Elenin Updates.

    Quote Posted by passiglight (here)
    By the way,,,,,,,if one is an advanced bit of kit that was put on a extra special long orbit,, you'r gonna collect a lot of space debris like dust etc,,,,,,,,,,,so before any technical ops can begin,you'd need to give oneself a thorough dusting and clean up,,,,,,,,,,

    think tetrahedron,think,,,,,star of david,,,,plus xmas trees with star at top of tree,,,,,,,,,,,,think pyramids,,,,,,,,,,pharaohs,,,,,,,,,pliadians,,,,,,,etc etc,,,,,,you get ascended atlantean,,,,,,,imax

    love
    I was going to say (actually, I have said) the same thing...

    If Elenin is artificial, it's entirely plausible it has a layer of protection around it for its' long journey.... And maybe, as it reaches its' destination, it would shed that which it no longer needed (much like a rockets' fuel tanks drop off ('seperate') as they are no longer needed)...

    It makes sense, if Elenin is indeed artificial and has not actually disintegrated as claimed...

    But I don't honestly know what to believe anymore..... I'm just waiting to see if anything interesting happenes this month or next at this stage....

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    Default Re: Is it Comet Elenin? Is it Nibiru? Elenin Updates.

    Elenin has disintegrated as per the information of a NASA insider, Dr. K Strong. I asked him about that several months ago and he said that he did not understand what was the fuss about. Anyway he made a fun video about the whole thing https://youtube.com/watch?v=TVm5fY6o6WA enjoy

    Having burnt myself recently IMHO I think that we may benefit from being more scientifical about everything, speculation is ok but fearmongering for the sake of making money is not ok, nor is deception. I am glad that I did not buy the Elenin teleconference.... another one that bites the dust
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    Default Re: Is it Comet Elenin? Is it Nibiru? Elenin Updates.

    Hmm, a pity that this thread develops this direction ... I think no one really knows what's happening but some claim
    to know. In some cases it might be that people want to reassure themselves that nothing is wrong.

    The simple fact that Elenin is so over hyped is already an indication the something is wrong ...

    All the hype around a significant radio signal could very well be that TPTB planted a false message that humanity would
    falsely take as straightening its history (was also an element of Bluebeam) and that somebody prevented it. Who knows.

    Maybe it's time to just let this thread for what it is. If I look at the title then there is no reason to keep it open for Elenin.
    The discussion if Nibiru exists probably deserves a thread of its own (maybe already exists).

    There's however another topic in this thread being discussed that might need continuation ... but would need a separate
    new thread too: the arrival of the energetic ribbon or superwave.

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    Default Re: Is it Comet Elenin? Is it Nibiru? Elenin Updates.

    Quote Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
    Quote Posted by MorningSong (here)
    Hey guys! Just ran across this! WOw!

    Go to the link and take a look at additional links and info...research, research, research.

    Elenin explodes - MASSIVE explosion DISINTEGRATES

    Hi MorningSong!

    What happened to logic and "discernment?":


    Quote Top Comments
    • You are not seeing an explosion, you are seeing a lens flare as the camera pans left. And Jupiter and Elenin are so far apart, it would take DAYS for any explosion to reach Elenin, not seconds like shown here. As an amateur astronomer, I have been watching Jupiter a lot lately, there has been no explosions. Please check things out better before you scare people, when these things go viral, brains also go viral, if you know what I mean.Znobyrd 12 hours ago 13

    • Disinfo!
      Please, Elenin hit in seconds after a explosion took place on Jupiter? Come on man....
      Elenin is 600million miles away from Jupiter, no way it can be struck so quickly
      Maybe, maybe the sun can have this effect after a X7 solarflare but thats it.
      camel303 3 hours ago 5
    Sensational... yes... me think it's time for this as a reminder:

    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    -------------

    Hi, Guys, please listen up for a moment.

    This thread is inspired by one of the recent 'disclosure prediction' threads that turned out to be yet another deliberate hoax.

    This is not a shot any any individual member here: but I strongly feel that Avalon members should have a responsibility NOT to forward fake or hokey predictions or 'channeled messages' - which is currently happening at a rate of one or more a week.

    We don't need this kind of nonsense in a climate of the times that could not be more serious. There ARE very critical things happening quietly in the world, and the real signals get lost in all the 'noise'.

    Be very sure that this is intended.

    Folks, I ask you: don't needlessly add to the noise.

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    They were quite correct to censor this cheap nonsense and stop it in its tracks. Our collective alternative knowledge base is being deliberately infected by information of zero or negative value in the same way as our computers (or bodies!) can become infected with viruses.

    The presence of the zero-value add-ons decreases our capacity to function optimally. In this case, we're rendered less able to evaluate authentic information. This is one reason why I find myself increasingly unsympathetic to hoaxes, hoaxers and other forms of knowledge devaluation, and have made some of the decisions I've made in the last year.

    This is not in any way 'censoring the truth movement': the real truth is far more incredible and unbelievable than any fiction.

    I want to make the real truth easier to see by flitering out the distractions - some of which are deliberate, and some of which are just naive.

    In 2005-6 I was closely involved in the 'Serpo story'. It was a really valuable experience. Much of that was nonsense (and it got more and more ridiculous as the 'disclosure' was sabotaged from inside): but some was certainly true. It was worth discussing at first until it just became way too crazy and was eventually completely derailed. By that time I had abandoned it.

    That's when I learned the priceless lesson that the truth in the alternative community is much more about PR than about actual facts. PR wins every time. And the insiders also understand this very well. They're masters at playing their cards.

    So, don't help them win their game. Really intelligent analysis is the answer. But that takes time, and care, and real research. The insiders count on you not to bother to do all that.

    They financed the creation of Facebook, and there's a good reason for their smart investment. The 'noise' is WAY amplified there. That's why I have no Facebook page, and never use it.

    Indirectly related to this: please don't re-post YouTube videos with no comment, or with a simple statement like "Hey, Guys, look at this". I and many others will never watch a video unless someone tells me why I should spend the time. Please be smart and caring enough to summarize in your own words what the added value is.

    Added value is what it's all about. If you're NOT adding value, then just keep reading. Though some of them are hard to find, Avalon has over 6,000 threads which contain enough good material to keep us all busy for a very long time.

    My best wishes to all - Bill
    In essence I agree with you. AmzerZo
    Bills comments were from Oct 2010 and a lot has happened since then but essentially the advice is still good and appropriate.
    However, I for one dont claim to have knowledge of Astrophysics and bring interesting (to me) videos to the table to be evaluated by those who are capable of properly evaluating the information.
    Till recently Richard Hogland was considered by Bill et all to be an expert in the field.
    So the ordinary person like me has to consider all opinions in order to try to sort the wheat from the chaff-- no easy feat.
    RH is still maintaining he is right for example.
    Chris
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