David Icke 2011

[araucaria]

This debate is a part of a more general issue whereby any form of naivety in our posting methods somewhere along the line becomes indistinguishable from malicious posting – indeed it is the plausible deniability of the typical troll.

The philosopher Henri Bergson describes the comical as ‘something mechanical in something living’. This may be comical in certain circumstances (often a cruel form or comedy such as laughing at someone who slips on a banana skin, whether real or metaphorical), but in others there can be something very sinister going on. If a human starts behaving too much like a machine, then we have to wonder if we are not actually dealing with a machine or a machine-controlled entity.

I think what some posters are objecting to is here that they are seeing too much of the mechanical in ktlight’s posts and not enough of the living. Much of the seemingly useless humour, banter, thoughtfulness and maybe even poetry in our posts serve the crucial purpose of telling readers that we are very much human, going places where no machine can follow.

I am sure all of us can and should be making a little more effort in this direction. It is an ongoing concern, because not everyone will be familiar with your posting history.

[DNA]

Posted by araucaria (here)
This debate is a part of a more general issue whereby any form of naivety in our posting methods somewhere along the line becomes indistinguishable from malicious posting – indeed it is the plausible deniability of the typical troll.

The philosopher Henri Bergson describes the comical as ‘something mechanical in something living’. This may be comical in certain circumstances (often a cruel form or comedy such as laughing at someone who slips on a banana skin, whether real or metaphorical), but in others there can be something very sinister going on. If a human starts behaving too much like a machine, then we have to wonder if we are not actually dealing with a machine or a machine-controlled entity.

I think what some posters are objecting to is here that they are seeing too much of the mechanical in ktlight’s posts and not enough of the living. Much of the seemingly useless humour, banter, thoughtfulness and maybe even poetry in our posts serve the crucial purpose of telling readers that we are very much human, going places where no machine can follow.

I am sure all of us can and should be making a little more effort in this direction. It is an ongoing concern, because not everyone will be familiar with your posting history.

Excellent stuff.

[araucaria]

Posted by DNA (here)


Excellent stuff.

Yes, we are worthy! Just need to do a little better, that's all!

'Man's perfection is his perfectibility' (Levinas)

[The One]

This is a speech from 1994 by David Icke. , how much has changed since then? for better or worse? back then he had little "credibility" an was ridiculed but as Ghandi would say "Even if you are a minority of one, the truth is the truth."

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=lW0-HdN0cK8

[ktlight]

The wisdom of David Icke. Aaahhhh, thank the Universe for his existence, because he is most certainly a gift to humanity!

[truth4me]

Good stuff .....David Icke---you gotta like him. He speaks truth. When he first came out with the reptilian stuff a lot of folks were blew away. Is the Queen of England a reptilian ? Let just say that anything is possible. Princes Di stated before she died that the royals weren't human....Who would have knew if she didn't?

[Ixopoborn]

I agree completely with the kernel of Ike's message - we desperately need to remodel our structures here on earth.

I will resist with all my soul the insidious control attempts being made on us.

I will resist with all my soul the temptation to turn on others in frustration that they can't see what is wrong with us like I do.

I will seek friendship with anyone else who is active in wanting to make changes without violence.

I will remember that forgiveness of others is essential for my sanity.

I will always be grateful to folk like Bill Ryan for his selfless devotion to the mission.

[Maia Gabrial]

I think most people saw it as a spoof and it was goofy. Ktlight brings alot of things to our attention. I applaud her.

[Carmody]

frpm wikipedia, on David:

Michael Barkun sees Icke as a professional conspiracy theorist of the Alex Jones variety, and the most fluent of the genre.[64] He calls Icke's work "improvisational millennialism", with an end-of-history scenario involving a final battle between good and evil. Because everything is connected in the conspiracist world view, Barkun writes, every source can be mined for links.

this is patently true. for good reason.

this is the basic of logic function in the context of the idea of clearing paradox from the table of data that is in the scope of the question. Godel's incompleteness theorem. Even Einstein stated this exact thing, flat out. Einstein said that a problem cannot be solved by the intllect or situation that created it. Thus, in efect, that paradox cannot be solved unless one steps out of the data grouping that one has the problem set into and within.

Thus the idea and full, fundamental logical conclusion and logic tool of extraordinary effectiveness..that one must group the problem data and considerations together.... and look outside of it.

To someone who cannot open paradox, cannot understand the existence of the given paradox....they cannot understand that David has looked outside of the scope of the paradox that the skeptic fails to recognize..and found the connective tissue.

The moment that one opens their eyes, they find data and information they did not even know existed, and thus paradox rears it's head. Thus the answer of looking outside of the data set that has produced paradox. For if the answer lay within the grouping, the paradox would not exist, would it?

As well, on reptilians:

In Children of the Matrix, Icke writes that, that if the reptilians did not exist, we would have to invent them. "In fact," he says, "we probably have. They are other levels of ourselves putting ourselves in our face."

which is why, in the soul Harvester thread, I say, 'don't worry about it'.

Consensus reality system, remember? Get thine self straight, and all these issues disappear of their own accord.

[kathymarie]

Thank you for posting this....I bless the day I found one of David's books. I've been an avid follower for over 10 years now. He keeps amazing me!

[kathymarie]

The message is even more relevant today than ever before. I am so thankful he has attained a level of credibility with some although I still read and hear some of the most unkind references and slurs made to him. I only recently discovered Bill Ryan. His words resonate truth with me just as David Icke's did when I first read his works. I was so impressed with Bill Ryan's discussions with "Charles" (boo, hiss) where he openly says he believes humanity can still solve the problems of the planet without a massive reduction in population. I agree totally that the technology and resources are "there" to accomplish this were they only "available" . Thank you again for posting this ...we need to be reminded more often.

[Cidersomerset]

No one really knows what is going on in Libya...We know its to do with our economic interrest as Jack straw reluctantly admittesd on radio yesterday.........
There is obviously internal division and Gaddaffi as all Kings and dictators should not be allowed to be in power over anyone, let alone for 40 years...unless freely voted in by the population in regular 'free' elections...

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=AslyGtLAU4s

Cheers Steve

[ktlight]

"If you're going to say 'No' to one thing--say "NO!" to the micro chip."

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=tL9oSGqFhlg

[Taurean]

We had our dog chipped - within 18 mths he was riddled with cancer.

http://www.naturalnews.com/033427_el...rochipped.html

[toothpick]

Have to agree with david on this one for sure.
There is little doubt that is one of their objectives, micro chiping.
Thanks kt.

toothpck

[Catsquotl]

I will say No for as long as I have a choice.

However I am reminded of what George Kavassalis said in his hundredth monkey radio interview.
He said that the TPTW have this machine that is already capable of pinpointing anyone, controlling or trying to control their thoughts and emotions.
The pinpointing is done by the vibration you as a human are emitting.
So whilst we may feel saver not having a micro-chip don't make the mistake of thinking you are safely of the grid.

With Love
Eelco

[spiritguide]

For every technology there is a counter-technology, this is the reason they keep most of this secret before application. Besides saying NO to it we must analyse the technology and develope counter measures to defeat it. Magnetism will go a long way in this endeavor, both personal and technical.

Peace!

[Calz]

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=tX-SiSmUIP4

http://www.davidicke.com/headlines/5...thought-police

[Cidersomerset]

Rothchild Zoinists run US/UK/Israeli politics. I just watched this vid by David Icke, which I have seen before in the larger presentation.Because he says so much it is worth watching parts of the talks seperately.....
Here he clearly shows how, and names zoinist personalities and their agenda to manipulate the world...this presentation is over a year old and what he is talking about is unfolding infront of our eyes. David is not racist or anti US/UK/Israeli just anti Zoinist and manipulation from TPTB...

Its great info we have heard before but only David can present it in his unique style enjoy and really listen to what he says as usual its packed with infomation.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=dlEX1xD1wtM

[truth4me]

Have you ever heard the hate coming out of the mouth of the Zionist Jews? I 'm not taking about the Jewish people as a whole but the leaders of the Zionist Jews and those who back them. They constantly preach war and hatred of other races. Google it and see for yourself. They were the original "serpent people" whom really rule Great Britain and Great Britain whom really rule America. So both England and America bow down to the Israel based Zionist Jews. Anybody who supports Israel knowingly or unknowingly are backing the Zionist and it's a shame that the basic Jewish person is caught up in it. The Big Time T.V. preachers who back Israel know the real deal. The bible as we know it was put together by the Zionist whom gave it to England who gave it to America and the people hand it down generation after generation. That's why good people back Israel because they have been taught to. Slick, very slick the Zionist are......