Planet X/Nibiru/Tyche/Hercolobus/Elenin

[DoubleHelix]

Elenin really doesn't do much for me... but some may find this of interest.

James Horak interview.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=mOO2ORP99Ns

[Carolin]

I just can't buy into the alien theories....just too messy. The truth is usually simple. This video resonates with me.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=HVhApuVKRyc

[Cjay]

I wish I could show you the pictures I took with my eyes yesterday - similar to yours, yiolas, only there were THREE "somethings" beside the sun. Next time I should stop the car before staring at the sun, lol.

[truth4me]

Posted by Solphilos (here)

Posted by Carmody (here)

Posted by Solphilos (here)
This is using a cheap flip-phone from Cricket wireless. It works with most cell phones and the pictures get more interesting the cheaper and lower the resolution. Grab a cheap phone, especially one with recording capability, and you can get some interesting results. I once made a very compelling 'UFO' video using nothing more than my cell and a street lamp, exploiting odd video artifacts. I posted it on a thread on another site a while ago and convinced even known skeptics that the video was real. That led to much disappointment once I revealed the truth.

I've got a message for you.

Stop screwing around with people.

It is very non-productive, and not respectful.

It may be personally an interesting thing to do, but it is not overall a good thing to do, at all. It is the opposite.

In this thread, your are being honest about it, thank you. Try not to do the 'poseur' thing with the crying of wolves and such, as it breaks the covenant with the truth, and does more damage than good. What I'm saying is that in my experience, misleading as a form of a lesson can and usually does more harm than good. Ie, in my experience, the majority do not need that lesson, in that form.

First, I have no interest in good or bad, right or wrong.These terms are meaningless to anyone who has understanding.

Second, I'm sure your experience is valid and true for you, but not necessarily for anyone else.
Deception can be a very productive tool, and for this reason it has been used in the majority of Mystery and Spiritual traditions for countless ages.
If you yourself have been deceived that was your choice to make, no one is or was guilty for the way you respond to circumstance.
There is nothing inherently wrong about being intentionally misleading; no-one puts a gun to your head and forces you into a belief; you are ultimately responsible for your choices.

Besides, there was nothing misleading or deceptive about my actions. I merely posted a video capturing odd visual effects and asked the simple question, "What think ye of this?"

Those who jump up in haste and shout 'UFO!' without questioning the facts or asking for details are lead astray by their own self-made delusions, not by me.
I've broken no 'covenant' as I don't buy into such new age dribble or pseudo-intellectual B.S. no matter how many times it's regurgitated before me by those who believe themselves to be enlightened.

a question about right and wrong or good or bad having no meaning. What if a grown man murders a 5 year old girl after raping her? So there should be no right and wrong or good and bad connected to his actions? Not to stray off the subject to far just wondering since you have understanding....

[truth4me]

Now that was a very interesting video....man it's getting goofy out here but in a good goofy way....I think.

[Calz]

Putting this up here simply for scrutiny. Using several different filters he implies the nucleus of elenin is intact (as of Sept 2nd).

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=Pibat6QUWbs

[Hervé]

Posted by Calz_Avaretard (here)
Putting this up here simply for scrutiny. Using several different filters he implies the nucleus of elenin is intact (as of Sept 2nd).

Interesting work and results.

However, because there is nothing else to compare it to from previous dates; nothing can be conluded from it.

Whereas, if you check the data provided by http://members.westnet.com.au/mmatti/sc.htm , where shots (same exposures, filters, ect.) of the comet are comparable... make up your own mind.

Moreover, the people at http://sydneystargazers.com/ have checked with the appropriate instrument the degree of condensation of the nucleus:

•August 31, 2011 •
[...]
In the last 12 days, Elenin is reported to have faded by as much as 80% and the latest findings show that Elenin is seen only as a smear and there is no sign of central condensation.

When we talk about a comet’s degree of condensation , we look at either the degree of condensation of the coma (atmosphere) or the degree of condensation of the nucleus.

In this case ,we are talking about comet Elenin having no central condensation, in other words of the nucleus…… and this roughly means there is no longer a nucleus to comet Elenin.

This has been measured by an E12 instrument which is used to gauge the level of condensation of a comet.

Taking the above comparable data into account, what the video poster is showing is what's left of the "coma," not the nucleus.

[greybeard]

This is very interesting Amzer Zo
A professional view of the totality of the situation.
Your opinion will be appreciated
Chris

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=GAHo_FCQZ8Y

[Peace4all]

Just wanted to throw a "thanks" out there to everyone contributing to this topic, especially greybeard and Amzer zo, you two have put in a lot of time. It makes for an extremely interesting read. I love that people can make there own conclusion about Elenin too
Love&Peace.

[norman]

The neutron star idea is interesting.

I suppose the big question about that is whether such a collapse of a planet to create it is really scientifically solid.

[yiolas]

Hi Thanks Cjay. I've shown these pictures before on Avalon, but every time someone will say that it's just a lens flare. I will take that possibility into consideration. However, my question is why are so many different people with different cameras have the same shape of lens flare ?

Next time you should get out of the car and take the picture. You might be surprised what the digital camera will capture.

[Arrowwind]

But Elvis! Where's Elvis?

[joedjemal]

Posted by yiolas (here)
Hi Thanks Cjay. I've shown these pictures before on Avalon, but every time someone will say that it's just a lens flare. I will take that possibility into consideration. However, my question is why are so many different people with different cameras have the same shape of lens flare ?


Next time you should get out of the car and take the picture. You might be surprised what the digital camera will capture.

Because the lenses tend to be made of the same materials, are about the same size and are often manufactured by one firm and sold to many different phone manufacturers. In any lens of a particular size shape and material in the same lighting conditions the flare will look the same
because of the laws of optics. And because they are all doing the same job (need to be tiny to fit into a phone) the optical properties will be very similar even if made by different manufacturers

[nearing]

Chris, I too think that the Neutron Star theory put forth by that gentleman in your linked video is intriguing. The one thing he doesn't state though, is if a Neutron star of the mass that he is proposing would cause the effects that have been observed by the JPL software (i.e.. algnments=earthquakes). If not, why does he propose it at all? If it doesn't, then Elenin just being a comet is just as good a theory as any.

Surely, the movements in a binary system, even when one of the stars is not of great mass, would make some perturbing effects as the 2 stars enter each others orbits.

I guess, I'd like him to make some conclusions from his very intriguing theory.

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Well, I just emailed Keith Hunter asking him for more. I will let you all know if I get a word back from him.

[Dick]

When you look at the sun, try to do it through an CD or an welding mask, then you can see the sun as it is, and if there is something near it, you will see it as well.
I have done it myself with an welding mask, en its beautifull to see, but i didn't see anything else but the sun.

Dick.

[nearing]

This is note-worthy:

COMET ELENIN STILL COMMING!!! LIFT OFF SOON???

Yes, Comet Elenin is still comming and it is not a coincedence about its' timing and alinements. I can feel the energy on Mother Earth is getting stronger. And I still stand by my channeled statements about being lifted up. There are many videos and statements from people around the world now as this thing approaches. I will provide links below as they can tell you their informantion much better than I. This is what we were waiting for so let's make these days count.
Here is a channeled info from Saint Germain:

Ascended Master Saint Germain.Comet Elenin and our World,September 4, 2011

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=xdakJ7Zf25I

This hour-long video puts everything in a nutshell:

The Rapture And Comet Elenin Connection! (4/6)

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=zJ_RUc2ND_c

As if the earth doesn't have enough trouble with elenin, there are other objects comming behind it:

The DESTROYER Cometh! - Pt 1/6

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=sg-erqAtYhY

With all the destruction impeding, it is SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN!! I channeled Orion "at this particular time. The earth will change is compesation and obsoved energies from the great central sun in the center of the galaxy to ascend. Its' energies will also change the people in their consciousness and will adjust them to the new frequencies comming to the planet."

[Terra]

Posted by Arrowwind (here)
But Elvis! Where's Elvis?

Sorry to have to tell you this my friend but, Elvis has left the orbit!

[Calz]

Lol

Out of morbid curiosity I did a search on how many threads had "elenin" in the title.

*** 73 seperate threads ***

[nearing]

Posted by Calz_Avaretard (here)
Lol

Out of morbid curiosity I did a search on how many threads had "elenin" in the title.

*** 73 seperate threads ***

And I believe this one has been here all along.

[Hervé]

Posted by greybeard (here)
This is very interesting Amzer Zo
A professional view of the totality of the situation.
Your opinion will be appreciated
Chris

https://youtube.com/watch?v=GAHo_...re=uploademail

That's a lot of work from Keith, some good, some... well, let's have a look.

All right Chris, let's start with the original premise and the picture provided allegedly taken through the South Pole Telescope; I have no idea if it's genuine or not and if it really was taken with the SPT?

Then there's the coordinates given for this initial object. Two ways to get such coordinates: actual ones or "fed" ones. In the latter case one can chose one of these "blank" area of Google Sky, pick some coordinates in it and then scream to the high winds of YouTube: "They are hiding something!" I performed that little exercise as I was getting tired of the floods of references labeling Carbon Star CW Leonis as Nibiru/PlanetX/Dwarf/Neutron star/ect., when I realized that some "loaded" numbers were falling within a discontinuity of the sky survey:

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
Nop!

Youze all wrong!

That Brown Dwarf/Nemesis/PlanetX/Neutron Star cannot possibly be anywhere else than at 11h 11m 11s -- 220 22' 22"

The proof? Look at those numbers! Moreover Google is hiding it in that black strip! How much more proof does one need?

Attachment 9511 Attachment 9512

Hence, no conclusion possible on that one unless confirmed by amateur astronomers checking that spot.

I haven't checked out if Astrollpatriot gave which portion of the sky his pictures were taken from.

Then, there the problem of the model followed for star formation, evolution and destruction. Simply because these models are put out by astrophysicists of the most conservative -- if not reactionary -- crowd of the scientific world. To put it lightly, most of them would be perfectly happy with a flat earth. This same crowd which keeps the electromagnetic nature of this universe at bay with a 10' pole.

Not withstanding that, there is the problem of an exploding ball which remnants miraculously end up in a very defined "belt." That one I cannot buy even if I were wealthy.

Try imagining it: blow up a ball in space from its center and follow all the pieces out from that center... the best you could come to would be an expanding circular ellipsoid if not an expanding sphere.

The only way I can conceive -- for now -- a planet turning into an asteroid belt is through disintegration or, better, disaggregation. Same as is happening to comet Elenin: the pieces keep following the orbital path.

For a more coherent explanation of this asteroid belt and how this solar system maintains itself, once again, I refer you to Stan Deyo and my post #999