Comet Elenin, C/2010 X1

[Pete]

according to ben fulford, denver and washington bases have been decommissioned by nuclear explosions, see his post dated yesterday

http://reddragonleo.com/2011/09/05/b...+Dragon+Leo%29

I would really like to believe this, but you have think, well there goes the proof again? it would really help to see some tangible evidence that the powers that be couldn't explain away. A bit like the heart logo on the moon in Hancock.

[joedjemal]

Its relevance is that you need to see what's attacked to get some idea of what's real. Dutch puts out stuff that has data to back it up. It threatens to expose the game so it's shut down. You don't see that happening with any of the elenin stuff.

There is a companion brown dwarf way out beyond the oort cloud that may periodically perturb comets. It won't be joining us in the inner system unless we have a close encounter with another star.

I fear nothing. I faced the high probability of death at the end of the 80s and woke up.

I'm just working as hard as I can so I don't have to come back to this hell hole.

[nearing]

Posted by joedjemal (here)
Its relevance is that you need to see what's attacked to get some idea of what's real. Dutch puts out stuff that has data to back it up. It threatens to expose the game so it's shut down. You don't see that happening with any of the elenin stuff.

There is a companion brown dwarf way out beyond the oort cloud that may periodically perturb comets. It won't be joining us in the inner system unless we have a close encounter with another star.

I fear nothing. I faced the high probability of death at the end of the 80s and woke up.

I'm just working as hard as I can so I don't have to come back to this hell hole.

I can understand that.

[dreamer]

I would like to see a series of pictures taken right after another, in which the same phenomena appears in the exact same spot in every pic. I have done this with my phone, but am not yet able to duplicate any anomoly even more than once, and I haven't seen any on the net that show this... In science, (keep in mind I am far from a scientist) I believe that to have your work accepted, it must be possible for anyone else that wants to, to be able to duplicate your work anytime, with the same results. I do not see this with the pics of the sun.

[DeDukshyn]

Hmm .. I find it interesting that it is a well formed upside down winged disk ... Sumerian mythology anyone? BTW the Toyota symbol is a bull. (Not bullxxxxx but literally a bull) - I have seen the Chrysler symbol questioned though .. Might as well through Bentley in there too ...

If anyone can get more pics, that's be cool.

[DeDukshyn]

Posted by viking (here)
Thanks Ilei with your expertise information with regard to cell phones...very usefull...

I was wondering I have a some infrared binoculars which I use for night viewing various anomolies in the skies...yopu know the ones...

If I put a filter on them and looked towards the sun ... would this work?? just a thought...

viking

I had a telescope that had both a sun filter and light "restrictor" which consisted of a very reduced opening for light to enter (aka a shield with a small hole to restrict the level of light from entering the telescope and potentially damaging the mirrors or lenses). A welding mask might be best (a must for eyeball viewing) but for pictures, to place a "restrictor" over the lens may help a fair bit. Just use an opaque material and punch a small hole in it and place over the lens when shooting - it will have the same effect as a further reduced iris size.

Edit: I think I still have that telescope .... I should dig that baby out =)

[loveandgratitude]

It seems confusion is the name of the game. Make the useless eaters exhausted by confusion. Just remain calm and focused. Time will tell. Keep your positive energy up and expect the best.

[Snowbird]

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Posted by Snowbird (here)

Posted by OnyxKnight (here)
Um, also, I find it interesting that Elenin "fragmented".


Also, in conjecture to this, anyone hearing the "noise" in western Europe yet?

Elenin may or may not have fragmented and/or it may or may not have been diverted by force. Have you heard anything about that?

What "noise" do you refer to?

I know a thing or two about astronomy. From the reports I read recently, it seems that it has "fragmented" into few big pieces and several small ones. The sudden change of trajectory happened after the "disattach".

I'm not doubting your knowledge. I'm just attempting to understand what this Elenin thing is. We just read today that Elenin is a Galactic Federation mothership. So, how can it have been fragmented and still be a mothership? And then elsewhere, we read that Elenin is being protected and has been seen to be brighter than before. This is why I wrote above that it may or may not have fragmented.

Thanks for your explanation.

[The One]

Earthquake Delhi, NCR - Richter scale 6.6 possible elenin effect

Delhi is among thirty important cities in the country that fall into high risk seismic zone while Srinagar is among places at very high risk of earthquakes, the government today said. Minister of State for Home Affairs Mullappally Ramachandran said this in written reply to a question in
the Rajya Sabha.

While Delhi, Amritsar and Chandigarh fall under zone IV (high risk), Srinagar comes under zone V (very high risk), he said. As per seismic map of India prepared by Bureau of Indian Standards 58.6 per cent areas of the country fall into earthquake zone V (very high risk), IV (high risk) and III (moderate risk)," the Minister said.

Towns like Almora, Ambala, Bahraich, Barauni, Bhuj, Bulandshahar, Darbhanga, Darjeeling, Dehradun, Gangtok, Guwahati, Gorakhpur, Imphal, Jorhat, Kohima, Ludhiyana, Mandi, Monghyr, Moradabad, Nainital, Patna, Pilibhit, Roorkee, Sadiya, Shimla and Tezpur fall under seismic zone IV and V.

"Government has also sent advisories to state governments and Union Territory Administrations from time to time to take up various disaster mitigation and preparedness measures by way of adoption of modern building bye-laws to ensure seismic resistant construction," the Minister said

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=gxOQAeNRKHE

[TargeT]

so no sunday events,, anyone have any follow up on this? wasn't this guy supose to make an announcement or something?

[Lazlo]

Posted by TargeT (here)
so no sunday events,, anyone have any follow up on this? wasn't this guy supose to make an announcement or something?

He posted on Sunday that Earth's membership in whatever alliance had been annulled. Updated today with a short post but nothing revealing. You can follow the action over at the CHANI forum.

[fopa]

I downloaded an app called pUniverse and interestingly it has comet Elenin, now the app usually guides you from a directional perspective to the location of search results. Interestingly Comet Elenin is below the horizon from a northern hemisphere perspective, so i wanted to ask if any users in the south hemisphere could get the app and check if the comet is theoretically visible via the application.

I don’t have any opinion on Elenin, although some of the theories are interesting if not a little OTT.

Picture attached anyone able to check?

[SkepticSoul]

Posted by joedjemal (here)
I know there's a lot of earthquake activity but it might be useful to remember that Dutchsinse's youtube site was taken down because of a video he made explaining haarp in detail.

There is no evidence of a brown dwarf entering the solar system. It would perturb the orbits of the planets. It seems more likely to me that these earth changes are more to do with an elite trying to disrupt something happening on a consciousness level through fear than some sort of magical event that defies the laws of physics. Where did you get the information that such a thing was to happen? Where did they get their information from? From experience i've learned that the spectactular physics defying dooms don't happen but they're usually obscuring a very real problem that certain people would rather the truth seekers didn't notice. Have you noticed the markets recently? The peak oil collapse is well underway and is a lot more dangerous than an imaginary threat from space.

What about the other celestial bodies in our solar system? are they controlled by haarp aswell? i don't think so...
Also, what are the laws of physics? I don't think there is any mathematical formula which includes 'gravity' as/or electromagnetism?

[Cjay]

Mods, can we please merge this thread with this other thread on the same topic?
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...xt-to-the-Sun-

[Cjay]

According to the JPL orbit diagram, Elenin is NOT near enough to the sun to produce those types of pictures. A more detailed explanation can be found in this post, here

[joedjemal]

What about the other celestial bodies in our solar system? are they controlled by haarp aswell? i don't think so...
Also, what are the laws of physics? I don't think there is any mathematical formula which includes 'gravity' as/or electromagnetism?

I don't get your meaning. The way gravity works under normal conditions (ie at non relativistic speeds and in planetary gravitational fields) has been well understood since Newton.

The fact that gravity and the nuclear/electromagnetic forces haven't been united doesn't mean that we can't predict how masses will behave in normal spacetime. I know there's more to learn but a brown dwarf or a neutron star coming into the solar system would have predictable effects. One on a regular orbit coming within the solar system would have left observable effects on the planetary orbits. If you're talking about the apparent warming going on on the other planets then I don't know what's causing it. Perhaps the sun or that band of interstellar plasma we're moving into. Show me hard evidence that we're encountering such an object and I'll believe you. (and hard evidence doesn't mean somme name on the net shrieking about the end of the world based on some lens flares)

[joedjemal]

Posted by SkepticSoul (here)

Posted by joedjemal (here)
I know there's a lot of earthquake activity but it might be useful to remember that Dutchsinse's youtube site was taken down because of a video he made explaining haarp in detail.

There is no evidence of a brown dwarf entering the solar system. It would perturb the orbits of the planets. It seems more likely to me that these earth changes are more to do with an elite trying to disrupt something happening on a consciousness level through fear than some sort of magical event that defies the laws of physics. Where did you get the information that such a thing was to happen? Where did they get their information from? From experience i've learned that the spectactular physics defying dooms don't happen but they're usually obscuring a very real problem that certain people would rather the truth seekers didn't notice. Have you noticed the markets recently? The peak oil collapse is well underway and is a lot more dangerous than an imaginary threat from space.

What about the other celestial bodies in our solar system? are they controlled by haarp aswell? i don't think so...
Also, what are the laws of physics? I don't think there is any mathematical formula which includes 'gravity' as/or electromagnetism?

I just manged to lose a long reply to this. Oh well.

Ok, I don't understand what you mean. Physics isn't set in stone, it's an evolving process. Things are observed and then a mathematical model is created that matches the observation. What happens next is that people try to falsify the maths by finding situations in which the maths doesn't work. Then a new theory is tried and again falsified etc. now in the 17th century Newton came up with a set of mathematical rules that are still used today for pretty much all orbital mechanics and they still work. Later Einstein worked out that those rules break down in extreme
conditions like at speeds close to the speed of light and in extremely intense gravitational fields but they wouldn't apply here because relativistic mathematics would only apply very close to an object with a high gravitational field.

A highly massive object entering the solar system would have well understood and predictable effects. The fact that gravitation and the nuclear/electromagnetic forces haven't been unified yet would have no effect on that. Physics may not be complete but it works under the sort of conditions we're talking about here or we wouldn't be discussing this on computers over the net.

If you're talking about the apparent warming on other planets in the system then a cold body like a brown dwarf or neutron star would have to be close enough to destroy the said planets with tidal forces before it could cause any warming. That's probably either caused by increased activity from the sun or a more remote possibility might be the band of interstellar plasma that the solar system is moving into (there's evidence for that)

[joedjemal]

Oops sorry accidentally posted twice

[SkepticSoul]

I've been thinking about something but i think is too rediculous to share xP but whatever i'll do it
Is there any object or body in space which represents 'something' (a planet?) in our dimensional reality, while in another dimensional reality (5D?) this body represents something different entirely? which would in turn also have different 'physics' effects...

[psci]

It does look like we are headed for multiple possible disaster scenarios within a window of the next year, out to couple of years. The one I'm having the hardest time pinning down is the damage/destruction supposed to be caused by the Niburu/Elenin scenario. According to the recent reports attributed to be from NASA sources, much of that information provided WAS able to be verified. The infrared image visible on Google Sky in the vicinity of the orbit of planet Mercury is independently verifiable by viewing stereoscopic satellite imagery and orbital parameters from the US Navy NRL. The current location appears to match the object known as C/2010 X1, but the date of September 26th does not seem to match up with any significance in the orbital parameters of C/2010 X1, aka Elenin.

http://secchi.nrl.navy.mil/STEREOorbit/C2010_X1.html

If one rewinds or fast-forwards orbital location of C/2010 X1, near alignment with the orbit of Mercury occurs from about 09/04/2011 to 09/10/2011, at which point it passes the nearest point (.482 AU distance) to the sun on about 09/11/2011. It then begins its outward trajectory towards earth’s orbit, and crosses earth’s orbit on about 10/19/2011. The orbital path of C/2010 X1 brings it just above the orbital plane of our solar system, so even though it crosses earth’s orbit at .234 AU distance from earth, it will do so just above it.

Now here is what I consider might be the most important part... The earth passes through the region of space occupied by C/2010 X1s debris field on 11/01/2011 to 11/03/2011. At that time, any slower moving debris and gases that were trailing behind will impact the earth. At the very least, there will be dust and small particles that were ejected while the object was close to the sun. More than likely, there will be a lot more debris than that. There may very well be debris out ahead of it and all around it that could change or extend these periods of dates by days or more. Not enough unclassified data exists to be sure, and we don't know how much of what IS available is real or is disinformation.

In the past, near-miss events with comets were reported just prior to major disease outbreaks. This is why they were feared and viewed as harbingers of evil in ancient times. The plague in Europe, and the Spanish influenza were both reportedly preceded by such events. Interestingly enough, that topic was covered on a new episode of UFO files on History channel last night.

There was a near miss of the Stereo B satellite around 07/30/2011, so I would imagine that the Navy has a lot of really nice close images of C/2010 X1 and its debris field from around that time frame. While I don't have clearance with the Navy to get those images, you MIGHT be able to find someone within your circles that might share. The debris field would have grown much larger since that date, as closer proximity to the sun would cause. I have some other questions and concerns.

If the object is just a comet as claimed, then why does it appear on infrared to have a solid spherical core and a clearly visible ionized outer "atmosphere" that is clearly planet-like? It certainly looks more like a large planet to me. The images from Stereo B would certainly provide a lot more detail. One other missing detail is mass. Compare the curvature and increase/decrease in speed in orbital trajectory at the distance from the sun to that of other known comets. This thing appears to be dense, much denser than a ball of ice and rock like most comets.

By examining the orbital data, the only thing I see happening around 09/26/2011 is the beginning of a nearly 3 day alignment of Mercury, Sun, C/2010 X1, Earth, and Uranus. This alignment is even more pronounced on 09/27/2011. C/2010 X1 will pass between the earth and the sun on that date at about .38 AU from earth, while Uranus will be in alignment beyond earth and mercury will be in alignment beyond the sun. I wonder if we'll see a global 2-3 day solar eclipse centered on 09/27/2011 due to C/2010 X1 blocking out the sun. It all depends upon the actual size of C/2010 X1, and how close it is to the ecliptic plane at that time. I have no way to measure that parameter in the simulation. A global eclipse, now THAT would be hard for the PTB to hide!
There will be another alignment on 11/22/2011 where we will be caught between the gravity of the sun and the gravity of C/2010 X1. At that time, C/2010 X will be just beyond the orbit of mars and will be .581 AU from earth.
Speaking of gravity... I do not know how significant the gravity OR the magnetic field of C/2010 X1 are going to affect the earth during these two alignments with, or the flyby of, the earth. I just don't have enough raw data on it. There seems to be a whole lot of speculation and guesses online, but nothing concrete seems to be coming forth from NASA or other confirmable sources. The one claim seen so far that it is 1.6 times the size of jupiter seems to match what we see on the infrared image in the vicinity of Mercury orbit. From that distance it still appears quite large!

The very fact that NASA and Google are working together to remove C/2010 X1 from the visible spectrum images on Google Sky seems to confirm that they are trying to keep most of the public in the dark.

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SUMMARY:

This is what the data/intel are delineating - a splitting of collective timelines for humanity within the next six months. A relatively small group of people will collectively 'ascend' between November 2011 and February 2012, while the rest of us clean up the mess of our own making through 2014 before humanity begins with a clean slate in 2015 when the arrival of Superconsciousness manifests in all of its glory. With that said, buckle up...it's going to be a bumpy ride. Also, the object discussed above is the Red Star Kachina.