Planet X/Nibiru/Tyche/Hercolobus/Elenin

[Mike Gorman]

Not sure if this has been flagged yet, but this English chap is more than meticulous describing the object in our Solar system that Astral Patriot discusses-I think this has the hallmark of real research and very sound reasoning-see what you think.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=n1rfypqWN5Y

[Kindred]

Keith Hunter was one of the speakers in Kerry Cassidy's forum on Elenin back a few months ago. http://projectcamelot.tv/

At the time, I felt the conference had some great historical info, along with current understandings and speculations as to
what Elenin/Nibiru 'held in store' for us. Just the same, I suspect none of this conjecture and speculation will but touch the
'surface' of the reality.

[Arrowwind]

Posted by Terra (here)

Posted by Arrowwind (here)
But Elvis! Where's Elvis?

Sorry to have to tell you this my friend but, Elvis has left the orbit!

Oh my god, I was prayin.. I thought he was spotted up there by the sun with Nibiru and that maybe he really was the King come to usher in endtimes with the heavenly hosts ... and we'd all be going down in a blaze of hip grinding rock n roll glory! ...

[Hervé]

So far, what I found from Astrolpatriot is this video from March 2011 in which he does specify that the object he took pictures of was located in the Leo Constellation and going into Orion:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=azU-H2TBXdU

So... for those of you with good telescopes...

[greybeard]

Thanks for the work you are putting in Amzer Zo.
I understand a little of the points are making.
I suppose I hope for a qualified yes or no as to yes there is some danger or no there is none in the foreseeable future.

Regardless there does not seem to be any logical valid explanation for the increasing number of earth quakes and other phenomena occurring ie birds falling from the sky but one.

Please keep up the good work Amzer Zo it is much appreciated by me and I am sure many others.

Chris

[TargeT]

I dont see how any danger could be present by any of the more "main stream" explinatoins, and there's not much evidence that anything else is happening.

the only reason I'm interested in this topic is the alignemnts & their dates & the close similarity to prophesy, red/blue kachina, the destroyer in virgo's (Justice, ISIS) hand.. too many randomly coroborating sources to ignore this heavenly body.

perhaps its something more, I know our universe is more electrical in nature than not (though I only say electrical because its really more gravo/magnetical.. but you'd have to watch the video on Planks Constant & understand a bit of the Coral Castle trinity to come to that conclusion).

From a random guy in alaska: chances are slim to none that anything will happen if this is just a natural "comet".. (though even NASA classifies it as an E-class....)

[greybeard]

Posted by TargeT (here)
I dont see how any danger could be present by any of the more "main stream" explinatoins, and there's not much evidence that anything else is happening.

the only reason I'm interested in this topic is the alignemnts & their dates & the close similarity to prophesy, red/blue kachina, the destroyer in virgo's (Justice, ISIS) hand.. too many randomly coroborating sources to ignore this heavenly body.

perhaps its something more, I know our universe is more electrical in nature than not (though I only say electrical because its really more gravo/magnetical.. but you'd have to watch the video on Planks Constant & understand a bit of the Coral Castle trinity to come to that conclusion).

From a random guy in alaska: chances are slim to none that anything will happen if this is just a natural "comet".. (though even NASA classifies it as an E-class....)

Yes that is of interest to me too.
I suppose my difficulty is that I was reading about the prophesies and the possibility of a change of consciousness over 40 years ago and have had my hopes raised several times and little happened, so im getting tired.
This time there is more evidence of change-- the timing-- the Mayan calendar, the prophesies of the indigenous population all in alignment.

Anyway not that long to the next alignment assuming there is enough of the comet left to align.
Then we will have, perhaps, some indication
Regards Chris

[TargeT]

Posted by greybeard (here)
Yes that is of interest to me too.
I suppose my difficulty is that I was reading about the prophesies and the possibility of a change of consciousness over 40 years ago and have had my hopes raised several times and little happened, so im getting tired.
This time there is more evidence of change-- the timing-- the Mayan calendar, the prophesies of the indigenous population all in alignment.

Anyway not that long to the next alignment assuming there is enough of the comet left to align.
Then we will have, perhaps, some indication
Regards Chris

haha, I'm glad I came to this game late, I can't imagine waiting 40 years!

and as for the comet "disinigrating" I give that as much credibilty as the rest, honestly, do we REALLY know its even there? I haven't seen it myself.. I'm inclined to believe it's there; but as I "know" almost nothing, I'm very open to any posibility.

Really, do you even have to question that something is happening, surely you can feel it? how was your 5th night? (Mayan calander,, 18 aug - 5 sept) what would you call the theme of that period of time in your life?

[greybeard]

Posted by TargeT (here)

Posted by greybeard (here)
Yes that is of interest to me too.
I suppose my difficulty is that I was reading about the prophesies and the possibility of a change of consciousness over 40 years ago and have had my hopes raised several times and little happened, so im getting tired.
This time there is more evidence of change-- the timing-- the Mayan calendar, the prophesies of the indigenous population all in alignment.

Anyway not that long to the next alignment assuming there is enough of the comet left to align.
Then we will have, perhaps, some indication
Regards Chris

haha, I'm glad I came to this game late, I can't imagine waiting 40 years!

and as for the comet "disinigrating" I give that as much credibilty as the rest, honestly, do we REALLY know its even there? I haven't seen it myself.. I'm inclined to believe it's there; but as I "know" almost nothing, I'm very open to any posibility.

Really, do you even have to question that something is happening, surely you can feel it? how was your 5th night? (Mayan calander,, 18 aug - 5 sept) what would you call the theme of that period of time in your life?

Oh yes something is happening, Im not sure where it is going though.
Im not concerned for me as I know I am not the body, but I have concerns for those who have no information and may find themselves in the deep end any time now.
Just say we have three days of darkness and no electricity to light the house.
It would not bother me as I am mentally prepared and I would take it a a positive sign.
But it would create fear in the great majority and thats my concern.

Kundalini Is another subject but its part of the body preparing for a change of spiritual energy, I have that experience on going.
Chris

[HORIZONS]

Posted by TargeT (here)

Posted by greybeard (here)
Yes that is of interest to me too.
I suppose my difficulty is that I was reading about the prophesies and the possibility of a change of consciousness over 40 years ago and have had my hopes raised several times and little happened, so im getting tired.
This time there is more evidence of change-- the timing-- the Mayan calendar, the prophesies of the indigenous population all in alignment.

Anyway not that long to the next alignment assuming there is enough of the comet left to align.
Then we will have, perhaps, some indication
Regards Chris

haha, I'm glad I came to this game late, I can't imagine waiting 40 years!

and as for the comet "disinigrating" I give that as much credibilty as the rest, honestly, do we REALLY know its even there? I haven't seen it myself.. I'm inclined to believe it's there; but as I "know" almost nothing, I'm very open to any posibility.

Really, do you even have to question that something is happening, surely you can feel it? how was your 5th night? (Mayan calander,, 18 aug - 5 sept) what would you call the theme of that period of time in your life?

What are your thoughts on the "something" that is happening? The time period in question has been very restless for me - how about you? (PM me if need be)

[Hervé]

Posted by greybeard (here)
Thanks for the work you are putting in Amzer Zo.
I understand a little of the points are making.
I suppose I hope for a qualified yes or no as to yes there is some danger or no there is none in the foreseeable future.

Regardless there does not seem to be any logical valid explanation for the increasing number of earth quakes and other phenomena occurring ie birds falling from the sky but one.

Please keep up the good work Amzer Zo it is much appreciated by me and I am sure many others.

Chris

Oh... thaaaAAT!

Well, that's easy: start from who/what kind of groups are constantly getting us (alternative community) to look at the sky for threats and sources of catastrophes, mostly channeled materials (starting with the Bible and most recently Sitchin and Nancy Lieder). Have a look at who/what controls the keyboards warriors through electromagnetic waves manipultions... EMFs... who's got the technology to do that? Who financed it?

What do you think would happen to a flock of birds getting microwaved in the sky? Same for schools of fish in water? In olden days some people used dynamite to go fishing... fish and compression waves are not compatible.

Same with earthquakes as demonstrated by Dr. Bruce Agnews... just need a pinch of some waves added to some tectonically unstable areas and... what have we got here... waoww! Look at that tsunami!

I think that's what Dutchsinse came to realize and dropped everything else but to concentrate on these radar signatures.

It's all got to do with enrgy vibrations, waves, carrier waves and what resonates to those or can be manipulated via those.

Hence, most of the danger is coming from a specific portion of the human population and not much is done to eliminate that particular source of danger. Because, while the curious minds have their curiosity rerouted towards the sky and its various critters, meanwhile on Earth it's Business As Usual for these occulted "rulers."

[HORIZONS]

I suppose my difficulty is that I was reading about the prophesies and the possibility of a change of consciousness over 40 years ago and have had my hopes raised several times and little happened, so im getting tired.

I've been looking and waiting since 1978 - and I am tired too. It is really difficult to put any stock or hope or faith into anything anyone has to say as to "what" is coming, "how" it is coming, and "when" it is coming. I keep my eyes and ears open - yet life goes on.

[TargeT]

Posted by HORIZONS (here)
What are your thoughts on the "something" that is happening? The time period in question has been very restless for me - how about you? (PM me if need be)

the 5th night is supose to be full of trials, restless is a "nice" way of saying it... everyone I know has had some sort of challange during this period (except for 1 person).. this is exactly what is described as the 5th night.. it is the micro in the macro (of the 9th step, which we are in currently) I don't have my good links here at work, but if you read the mayan calandar and the 7 days and 6 nights that each "step" is made up of (9 steps, each split into 7 days and 6 nights, each step is 20x the intensity of the step before)

I just find it comforting that I can see in my life a refleciton of what the Mayan calandar (and its hopi lore) say should be happening right now.

my 5th night was VERY dramatic, but as I anticipated it comming I feel I have been much more ballanced and able to deal with what would possibly have delt me a strong blow with out this knowledge.


I hope that a "DNA" upgrade, or elivated conciousness is instore for us, but that's not the only possibility.. being open and willing to accept what comes feels right to me, so I'm going with that for now.

HOWEVER: I am also more than convinced that there is an influencing force that has been manipulating our society (globaly) for longer than we remember.. this cannot be forgotten & must remain in the fore front of your mind at every turn (infact I find it peaceful, so much of this crazy world makese sense when viewed through that filiter).

if you have not gotten to this point yet in your research, I emplore you to continue following subjects, as for me; all roads lead here.

[HORIZONS]

Posted by TargeT (here)

Posted by HORIZONS (here)
What are your thoughts on the "something" that is happening? The time period in question has been very restless for me - how about you? (PM me if need be)

the 5th night is supose to be full of trials, restless is a "nice" way of saying it... everyone I know has had some sort of challange during this period (except for 1 person).. this is exactly what is described as the 5th night.. it is the micro in the macro (of the 9th step, which we are in currently) I don't have my good links here at work, but if you read the mayan calandar and the 7 days and 6 nights that each "step" is made up of (9 steps, each split into 7 days and 6 nights, each step is 20x the intensity of the step before)

I just find it comforting that I can see in my life a refleciton of what the Mayan calandar (and its hopi lore) say should be happening right now.

my 5th night was VERY dramatic, but as I anticipated it comming I feel I have been much more ballanced and able to deal with what would possibly have delt me a strong blow with out this knowledge.


I hope that a "DNA" upgrade, or elivated conciousness is instore for us, but that's not the only possibility.. being open and willing to accept what comes feels right to me, so I'm going with that for now.

HOWEVER: I am also more than convinced that there is an influencing force that has been manipulating our society (globaly) for longer than we remember.. this cannot be forgotten & must remain in the fore front of your mind at every turn (infact I find it peaceful, so much of this crazy world makese sense when viewed through that filiter).

if you have not gotten to this point yet in your research, I emplore you to continue following subjects, as for me; all roads lead here.

Many thanks - I don't really know much about the "Mayan" side of things - to many other rabbit trails I have traveled other than that one - I have looked into it a few times, but there was SO much info - some of it very wild - it is difficult to get started. Maybe you could start a thread with good solid info on this subject - that would be cool

[nearing]

Posted by nearing (here)
Chris, I too think that the Neutron Star theory put forth by that gentleman in your linked video is intriguing. The one thing he doesn't state though, is if a Neutron star of the mass that he is proposing would cause the effects that have been observed by the JPL software (i.e.. algnments=earthquakes). If not, why does he propose it at all? If it doesn't, then Elenin just being a comet is just as good a theory as any.

Surely, the movements in a binary system, even when one of the stars is not of great mass, would make some perturbing effects as the 2 stars enter each others orbits.

I guess, I'd like him to make some conclusions from his very intriguing theory.

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Well, I just emailed Keith Hunter asking him for more. I will let you all know if I get a word back from him.

He just got back with me. He sent me an audio recording with his response. I haven't listened yet.

Not sure how I would go about attaching it here...

I may have to listen and compile a summary.

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Okay, it's too long and full of great points. I really like his thought process. I will paste the contents of my email to him here then if anyone wants to hear his response, you can PM me and I will email it to you.

MY EMAIL TO HIM:

Hello Keith,

I just came across your YT video explanation of the Neutron Star theory and
I find it plausible and intriguing. I was left with the feeling that I'd
like you to take it a step further and give your conclusions. In other
words, if this is a binary system and our Sun's companion start is a small
neutron star and it is entering our inner system now, what physical
(electromagnetic and gravitational,, etc) will that or does it have on our
Sun and and our planet? Surely the JPL software showing the historical
alignment dates of 'elenin' and whatever it is orbiting and our planet plus
other bodies (additive forces on the planet) having great earthquakes CANNOT
be coincidental as there are too many of them.

The cyclical nature of this event (3600 years) and the catastrophes that
happened historically too show that this thing has the capacity to 'shake'
or perturb Earth in some way, no?

I am one watcher that is hanging on my the edge of her seat for the next
installment of your Neutron star series: "What it means for our planet."

I am not looking for any doomsday scenario, mind you. I just want cold
facts whether they be a positive or a negative, it doesn't matter to me.
All knowledge is good and I have no fear even if it is a negative effect we
are expecting. I know many wouldn't see ti that way, but that is their
problem. They need to realize that 3D life is only an illusion that we chose
to experience. ;-)

Cheers
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For those interested - greybeard posted Keith's video on this thread about a page back. Here it is again:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=GAHo_FCQZ8Y

[TargeT]

Posted by HORIZONS (here)
Many thanks - I don't really know much about the "Mayan" side of things - to many other rabbit trails I have traveled other than that one - I have looked into it a few times, but there was SO much info - some of it very wild - it is difficult to get started. Maybe you could start a thread with good solid info on this subject - that would be cool

I have started a thread, but I fear if I tell you where it is I'll be shot.. this forum has been slightly tainted in my eyes since january and I don't feel I can freely comunicate as freely as I want to.. I'll see if i can cross post some info later on, though I'd be very supprised if there wasn't a comprehensive thread on this forum already.

The mayan calander can be summed up as this:
we have been going through an increase in conciousness, 9 levels of it, but NONE are finished yet, all 9 finish on the 28th of october (this year, not sure if there's an error margine there, the other dates seem to be pretty "spot on") since each step is 20x the previous one we should be able to trace this back through history, and; it does line up rather nicely..

of course its a bit more complex than that, and the hopi prophesy are relivant as well, my interpritation is that it will be the "end of the world" but in a conceptual sense,, for example, if I were to release cold fusion and anti gravity tech tomorrow (something that is very possible and discribed in a thread here on this forum ) then what continues after that would litteraly be considered a "new world" or "new era" so it may not mean death and destruction.... (then again.. )

[The Truth Is In There]

Posted by HORIZONS (here)
Many thanks - I don't really know much about the "Mayan" side of things - to many other rabbit trails I have traveled other than that one - I have looked into it a few times, but there was SO much info - some of it very wild - it is difficult to get started. Maybe you could start a thread with good solid info on this subject - that would be cool

maybe your should try this one and ignore the "conventional" mayan stuff about 2012 for now:
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...-not-10-28-11-

[The Truth Is In There]

Posted by greybeard (here)
Just say we have three days of darkness and no electricity to light the house.
It would not bother me as I am mentally prepared and I would take it a a positive sign.
But it would create fear in the great majority and thats my concern.

the three days of darkness will not be caused by anything physical. otherwise you could just light a candle and the darkness would be gone. it's going to be a spiritual "darkness" but will be experienced differently by each individual so it doesn't necessarily have to be darkness if you don't have anything "dark" to process anymore. if what's coming creates fear in others that merely proves that they haven't yet reached the point where ascension is an option. that's nothing to be concerned about. everyone has his/her own path to go.

[Carolin]

This is the official public release of the full length PART 2 seminar by Alex Retrov and Krystal Alexander-Hille.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=uKkYZVEFs-c

[Cjay]

Posted by yiolas (here)
Hi Thanks Cjay. I've shown these pictures before on Avalon, but every time someone will say that it's just a lens flare. I will take that possibility into consideration. However, my question is why are so many different people with different cameras have the same shape of lens flare ?

Next time you should get out of the car and take the picture. You might be surprised what the digital camera will capture.

I would have taken a photo if I had a camera with me. My 3 year old mobile phone battery died, so I am presently using an old phone that does not have a camera.

According to NASA-JPL's orbit diagram/simulator program
http://ssd.jpl.nasa.gov/sbdb.cgi?sstr=c%2F2010+x1&orb=1
Elenin is further from the Sun right now than the orbit of Mercury and Elenin is still "below" the ecliptic. Elenin is definitely not close enough to be in the same photo as the Sun, unless you are taking a very wide-angle shot. If we are looking directly at the sun, the JPL diagram shows Elenin should be about 30 degrees to one side of the sun and NOT YET very close to the sun, when viewed from Earth. However, it should be moving closer to the sun each day, until September 27 when Elenin will be closest to alignment between Earth and the Sun (although this is only a 2-dimensional perspective) - Elenin will actually NOT be directly in line between the Earth and the Sun as Elenin will be moving ABOVE and away from the ecliptic after September 13.

Please remember that the exact direction to look for Elenin is changing constantly because the Earth is rotating as well as orbiting the Sun and Elenin is moving on its orbit around the Sun. Also, our perspective changes depending on where we are on Earth (for example, northern or southern hemisphere) and the time of day (due to the Earths rotation). If you don't think this makes much difference, try hanging upside down from a rope that is swinging and spinning then try to catch a ball that is thrown in your direction.

It would be very helpful if there was a program that allows you to enter your latitude, longtitude, date and time of day, then displays the relative positions of Elenin, the Sun and familiar stars or constellations - from your current viewing position. That would surely help to reduce our confusion. If anyone knows of such a program, please tell us where we can get it.

In the screen-capture image below, which shows TODAYs positions of the planets and Elenin, the Sun is in the centre of the picture, the Earth is at the bottom-middle and Elenin is approximately 30 degrees to the left of the line between the Earth and Sun. (Click image to enlarge)



I took some photos today using a digital camera with a good lens and it confirmed my suspicions. We are seeing lens flares. I came to that conclusion because the mystery "object" changed positions, relataive to the Sun (as I described in my previous post, here) when I took a series of photos with the Sun in slightly different positions in the photo. [The Sun appears in the photos to be much bigger than it really is because the light from the Sun massively overloads the camera's CCD image sensor. The diameter of the Sun is actually similar to the diameter of the red circles used to highlight the lens flares.] See photos below (click images to enlarge).

Lens flare circled on lower-right side of sun:




17 minutes later: Lens flare circled on left side of sun:




These types of lens flares are fairly predictable. If you draw a line from the centre of the Sun to the centre of the lens flare, that line will pass directly through the centre of the photograph - and the centre points of the Sun and lens flare will be equi-distant from the centre of the lens/photograph. If the centre of the Sun is further from the centre of the photograph, then the lens flare will also be further from the centre of the photograph.


Yiolas, I also had a closer look at your photos and I believe they are also showing lens flares. The position of the mystery "object" in your photos is not consistent in both of your photos - but the position is consistent with the above paragraph describing the location of the lens flare relative to the centre of the Sun and the centre of each photograph.