Ron Paul (2010-2011)

[jackovesk]

Posted by Erich (here)
What's so wonderful about this ad? It sounds like the same ol' to me.

Just take your eyes off the MSM TV and Think about it Erich..?

The Only Way that Ron Paul is going to Win?

a - Expose the Hoax that he can't win

b - Promote the Fact that Ron Paul is the only candidate with a perfect voting record

c - Expose another Fact that Ron Paul is the only Candidate that is being attacked by the MSM & Political Spectrum

d - If you Vote for Establishment Candidates you deserve what you get!

More importantly if Ron Paul wants to Win he must go after the likes of Mitt Romney & Rick Perry and expose them for their voting records, alliances and their Flip-Flops..!

[The Truth Is In There]

reagan always makes me think of "trance-formation of america". if ron paul is a buddy of ronald reagan he probably has his own sex slave, too.

[kathymarie]

..and as a woman, mother and former fetus myself I agree with him.....

Posted by onawah (here)
The info in that lifenews article is basically:
"In a new statement about his pro-life views, Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul said he would sign a ban on taxpayer funding of the Planned Parenthood abortion business if elected president."
He has never been in favor of a women's fundamental right to choose, and as a woman, I cannot agree.

[onawah]

I used to be a student at the Berkeley Psychic Institute, home to many skilled psychics who gave classes and readings, etc. to students and the public. They have schools and churches all over California and elsewhere and are very active in helping people to open up to their untapped psychic potential.
They have midwifery clinics and the midwives are also psychic, so they can give soul readings to the prospective parents and tell them about the incoming soul, their karmic relationship, past lives, etc. It's pretty fascinating. I spent several years studying there and though I wouldn't say their accuracy rate was 100%, there was certainly a lot of valid information being shared, and I can personally attest to that, because much of what they told me turned out to be spot on accurate.

I learned from the clairvoyants there that some of what they call "baby beings" or souls that are seeking a body, regardless of whether they have an agreement with the parents they are targeting, will actually coerce or sneak their way into being conceived if the parents are susceptible to their influence. And can even forcefully take the place of a baby being that does have a birth agreement with the parents. So this is a more complex issue than most people realize.


They also said that until a baby is actually born, the soul can easily exit the body any time it chooses and for long periods of time. So unless a soul wants to be present in the fetus when it is being aborted, it has the option to leave. It does not have to be a traumatic experience for the fetus, although it most often is for the woman. Not as traumatic as having to devote her life's energies to a child she did not agree to give birth to or care for, however, in most cases.

For any woman, and particularly a low income woman, bringing an unwanted child to term and then giving it up for adoption is not an easy thing to do. I know, because I did it myself. It is very taxing to one's health, physically, emotionally, spiritually and definitely economically. It put me into a downward spiral that culminated in a NDE and some lifelong permanent disabilities.

I don't even really care to hear a man's opinion on this subject, until the day comes when men are the ones who have to bear the children, or they can clearly remember from their past lives as women what it is really like to bear a child. Especially a woman who is on her own with little or no support.

The financial debate about the government paying for abortion is a good example of why our economy needs to be revamped from top to bottom. Black ops and other illegal, unnecessary and criminally wasteful projects our governments are spending money on are taking up the vast majority of the world's resources, leaving human services squabbling over a tiny fraction of what's left. It's one way The Powers That Were have kept us at each others' throats, arguing about crumbs when they have taken the whole feast behind our backs.

IMHO, Planned Parenthood was designed to help poor women who have no other options.
TPTW have plenty of other means to reduce the population in their genocidal toolbox, from vaccines to chemtrails to GMOs, Big Pharma and on and on and on.
If Planned Parenthood was part of their agenda, PP would not have been fighting tooth and nail all these years just to keep their doors open.

[Alan]

My 2cents -- if you want to have a real debate about abortion, the first step is to drop the deliberately misleading language.

"Pro choice" sounds nice but it's really the the right to have an abortion.

"Pro life" is also misleading, let's call it anti-abortion, shall we?

[Alan]

Posted by onawah (here)
The info in that lifenews article is basically:
"In a new statement about his pro-life views, Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul said he would sign a ban on taxpayer funding of the Planned Parenthood abortion business if elected president."
He has never been in favor of a women's fundamental right to choose, and as a woman, I cannot agree.

That's fine, but does a candidate exist which you agree with 100%, AND you can trust? Most of the candidates decide what to support based on polls, Ron Paul may be the only one truly guided by PRINCIPLEs.

I hope you're not casting your vote based on this one issue, there are many other more important issues to consider.

[onawah]

It's may be just one issue from a political perspective, but it's a very important one and the consequences are very far reaching.
Women still do not have equal rights and are still treated as chattel in much of today's world.
It is very important that the fight for equal rights continue to be fought in the more developed nations, because it has a profound effect on other nations, and one battle won here will be a victory for women all around the world.
So it's an international, not just a national issue.
It's also a spiritual and a planetary issue, a vital part of the whole Shift, which is very much to do with the balancing of the sacred feminine with the sacred masculine, which has been very out of balance for a very long time.

[christian]

Posted by onawah (here)
I used to be a student at the Berkeley Psychic Institute, home to many skilled psychics who gave classes and readings, etc. to students and the public. They have schools and churches all over California and elsewhere and are very active in helping people to open up to their untapped psychic potential.
They have midwifery clinics and the midwives are also psychic, so they can give soul readings to the prospective parents and tell them about the incoming soul, their karmic relationship, past lives, etc. It's pretty fascinating. I spent several years studying there and though I wouldn't say their accuracy rate was 100%, there was certainly a lot of valid information being shared, and I can personally attest to that, because much of what they told me turned out to be spot on accurate.

I learned from the clairvoyants there that some of what they call "baby beings" or souls that are seeking a body, regardless of whether they have an agreement with the parents they are targeting, will actually coerce or sneak their way into being conceived if the parents are susceptible to their influence. And can even forcefully take the place of a baby being that does have a birth agreement with the parents. So this is a more complex issue than most people realize.


They also said that until a baby is actually born, the soul can easily exit the body any time it chooses and for long periods of time. So unless a soul wants to be present in the fetus when it is being aborted, it has the option to leave. It does not have to be a traumatic experience for the fetus, although it most often is for the woman. Not as traumatic as having to devote her life's energies to a child she did not agree to give birth to or care for, however, in most cases.

Interesting point of view. So the children don't suffer but the women do, but the women would suffer more, if they had to take care of an unwanted child.

Posted by onawah (here)
For any woman, and particularly a low income woman, bringing an unwanted child to term and then giving it up for adoption is not an easy thing to do. I know, because I did it myself. It is very taxing to one's health, physically, emotionally, spiritually and definitely economically. It put me into a downward spiral that culminated in a NDE and some lifelong permanent disabilities.

I don't even really care to hear a man's opinion on this subject, until the day comes when men are the ones who have to bear the children, or they can clearly remember from their past lives as women what it is really like to bear a child. Especially a woman who is on her own with little or no support.

The question I get here is, what would have happened if you would have had an abortion? Would it have been better? Would there have been other effects, that would have been worse eventually, e.g. breast cancer? One never knows. Do you wish, you could have done otherwise in retrospect or do you see what you went through as an experience, that you appreciate?

Posted by onawah (here)
The financial debate about the government paying for abortion is a good example of why our economy needs to be revamped from top to bottom. Black ops and other illegal, unnecessary and criminally wasteful projects our governments are spending money on are taking up the vast majority of the world's resources, leaving human services squabbling over a tiny fraction of what's left. It's one way The Powers That Were have kept us at each others' throats, arguing about crumbs when they have taken the whole feast behind our backs.

Obviously lots of money is misused these days, but Planned Parenthood can surely not complain about a lack of funding, being backed by the son of the former head of the organization, Bill Gates.

Posted by onawah (here)
IMHO, Planned Parenthood was designed to help poor women who have no other options.
TPTW have plenty of other means to reduce the population in their genocidal toolbox, from vaccines to chemtrails to GMOs, Big Pharma and on and on and on.
If Planned Parenthood was part of their agenda, PP would not have been fighting tooth and nail all these years just to keep their doors open.

Margaret Sanger, who was the founder of Planned Parenthood, had clearly racist intentions and among the books of the closely related American Eugenics Society was a book, that Hitler called 'his bible'.

[norman]

All this faith in voting gives me the blues. It gets like a giant fire that sucks in oxygen by the huge updraft from it's tower of flame. When the election is over, what do we get?

I'll agree that we don't quite get what we used to get. Obama wasn't quite in the full tradition of puppet presidents. If he was popular enough they'd keep him in for another term as the racial last laugh and mascot on a sinking ship. As he's doing so badly in the ratings, he might have to be replaced. even at this very late hour.

So who would they want to replace him with?

My bet goes on Ron Paul, for almost the same reason they wanted Obama. When they run the chainsaws through the American dream next year, the second best laugh they could have would be to watch a PATRIOT president go down with the ship. That would be almost as good a laugh, for them, as watching a "black" president go down with the ship.

My advice to all those getting excited about the next election is to get active with your spending habits instead. It'll do more good than voting.

[Martin]

I am all for Ron Paul and welcome any refreshing and reasonable voice, but there is a thing I just have to say about this trailer. Boy! It is so "american". Almost like a movie trailer. That of course can be a good thing, but I generally don't like that sort of dramatized feeling when it comes to serious matters.

BUT as long as it gets people to wake up and wonder over the status quo I am not complaining. Not anymore anyhow.


Martin

[onawah]

I don't know if your assertions about Gates funding PP or Sanger's alleged racism, chiquetet. But I do know from direct experience that low income women need birth control and sometimes, abortions, and PP is about the only place they can go. I think a certain amount of population control is not necessarily a bad thing, especially when it comes to personal choice. If more women had more choice, there would be many fewer starving millions dying tragic deaths. Genocide is another matter.
As for elections, I agree with Norman--TPTW have been controlling them for a long time, and they only give us as much as will keep us from full scale rioting. We have been skillfully manipulated, there's no doubt about it. But that is going to change, and it still makes a difference to me who is in the White House, because an inch can grow in to a mile eventually.
I'm not excited about the next election, but I am excited about a lot of other things that are going to change the political scene too, before too long.
IMHO.
As for my personal experience, I'd rather not discuss it here.

[Martin]

I personally kind of feel that it isn't so much about Ron Paul getting into the White House, but about "his" ideas and convctions getting into the people's field of view and that's were they need to be if any real change has to come about.

Abortion is a hard topic for me. Not knowing what might be the implications of not allowing life to come forth were "it chose" to be, but knowing the implications that might or might not result when allowing it brings you right to the point were one has to wonder about "maybe getting a little bit to far" for it's own good. I believe condoms are currently the best "solution" I could come up with.


Martin

[giovonni]

Who do you think won the Republican debate at the Reagan library?

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/_news...reagan-library

[risveglio]

I think there should be a ban on tax payer funding for abortion. As an American that thinks abortion is a pretty vile act, I don't want that blood on my hands. If the poor can not pay for an abortion, then they should have the baby and put it up for adoption or get the money from another charity. Why should innocent people who work very hard pay for legal murder?

Dr Paul writes about when he changed his mind about abortion in his book Revolution. He was in a hospital room where a late term abortion occurred. The doctors just tossed the crying fetus into the trash and ignored its crying as it slowly died. At the same hospital, a woman who was having a baby premature and the doctors and nurses did all they could to save the baby. I think there is a serious moral issue with abortion.

I used to be very pro choice too. I still am. Just now I think that the choice should be made before conception. That's the problem with the world now, nobody wants to take the consequences for poor decisions. Buy a house I can't afford, bail me out. Banks and brokers make a bunch of bad deals, bail them out. Post Office can not be run right, bail them out. No consequences for our actions.

It's bad enough my money is used to kill third world citizens around the world without my consent. I don't think it should also be used to kill the truly innocent. Way too many people use abortion as a form of contraception.

[jackovesk]

Sept 8, 2011

Pictures taken during a commercial break in last night’s GOP debate at the Reagan Presidential Library suggest that Texas Governor Rick Perry attempted to physically intimidate Congressman Ron Paul, prompting Paul’s security to intervene.

Photographs published by the AP and Reuters show a stern looking Perry holding Paul’s wrist and waving a finger in his face.



Reports by Fox News and International Business Times state that during the break Perry “walked up to Paul’s podium, physically grabbed Paul’s wrist, and pointed at Paul’s face with his other hand.”

A third man, said to be Paul’s security guard, is seen approaching the podium in the picture.

Another photo shows Perry with arms outstretched, leaning in towards Paul engaging in what may be considered lively conversation to say the least. Some Paul supporters have suggested that the shot shows that Perry physically forced Paul away from his own podium during the commercial.



It is not clear, however, whether this picture was taken at the same moment, and it is possible that it shows Paul approaching Perry’s podium. The two candidates were situated directly next to each other during the debate.

Before the exchange took place, Paul and Perry locked horns in a sharp exchange of words, with the Congressman calling out Perry on his support for ‘HillaryCare’ and his issuance of an executive order to forcibly vaccinate 12-year-old girls against HPV.

Ron Paul’s latest campaign ad, which ran during the debate commercials, also targeted Perry, exposing his previous record as a Democrat and his intimate links to Al Gore’s 1988 Presidential campaign.

Did Perry attempt to Physically intimidate Dr. Paul? The two campaigns have been asked to clarify what actually occurred during the exchange.

http://www.prisonplanet.com/pictures...-ron-paul.html

Ron Paul Highlights - GOP Debate at the Reagan Library

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=0rLVOh1dfFc

PS - You've already beaten this Lame Clown Ron..!

Ron Paul DESTROYS Entire Field In Republican Debate

Results of Poll...

Total of 169,562 votes

Ron Paul 53.5%(90,777 votes)
Mitt Romney 15.9%(27,021 votes)
Rick Perry 13.4%(22,688 votes)
Jon Huntsman 6.6%(11,130 votes)
Newt Gingrich 4.4%(7,514 votes)
Herman Cain 3.2%(5,395 votes)
Michele Bachmann 2.0%(3,386 votes)
Rick Santorum 1.0%(1,651 votes)

Add YOUR Vote here...

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/_news...reagan-library

PSS - What's going on here..? Is it writing? A Tatoo? or just Veins & Tendons?

[Arrowwind]

All I know is that in some neck of the woods pointing a finger like that and holding a wrist of a known adversary is considered agressive confrontation and the wrist holding can hold a charge of a class B misdimeaner... as well if that finger tip touched the body...

Ron Paul should press charges...

and I will say this also, since Ron Paul is a physician, that if such an encounter occured on a hosptial floor Perry would be escorted out and if the physician really felt threatened charges might be pressed.

[Coaxial]

Well in other parts the finger would be turned into a suppository....

[Fred Steeves]

Sounds like our various necks of the woods are very similar here. If I were to wag a finger in another man's face, I might expect either that finger to be grabbed and broken, or a fist to come looking for my jaw.

Cheers,
Fred

[Mark]

Don't underestimate the power of a sitting Texas governor to become president of those united states ... i was in DC during the Glenn Beck rally 2010 summer ... I've seen a potential future for north america. I'm sure many of you have as well ... besides, if we make it to the next election cycle without total chaos an uneventful and almost totally meaningless presidential election would be a nice, mundane way to come down from the 2012 bug.

[Maia Gabrial]

It doesn't look as though Ron Paul is intimidated by Perry's finger either; which could have been taken as a threat. So, no finger gesturing, Perry....