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    Default New Immigration Rules: Denied entrace due to Mental Illness

    Mental Illness Grounds for Denying Entrance to U.S.?
    Posted on September 10, 2011 at 12:00am by Liz Klimas Print » Email » Comments (54) There are a slew of reasons why those crossing the border — either way — between Canada and the United States may be stopped or denied entrance. Here’s a new one: mental illness.

    CBC News Canada has the story:

    More than a dozen Canadians have told the Psychiatric Patient Advocate Office in Toronto within the past year that they were blocked from entering the United States after their records of mental illness were shared with the U.S. Department of Homeland Security.

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    I see a camel's nose under the tent here. So, will the TSA now be looking into our backgrounds to see if we need to be held for the safety of ourselves and others because we visited a psychologist? I know I am jumping from boarder security to TSA, but both involve travel and homeland security. So, we have thought police, and now mental illness as a reason to separate people and protect the sheeple.

    Watch out Bill and other Avalonian's coming to Amerika. They may find anyone who actually believes in conspiracies is mentally ill. You may find travelling here difficult, but then again, I'm not sure many will want to continue coming to Amerika.

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    Default Re: New Immigration Rules: Denied entrace due to Mental Illness

    She is being denied entrance to the US because police entered her home for a suicide attempt.

    My point is: she has not been condemned of any criminal offense, she has not even been arrested, police just entered her home. How come such a record is kept at all in any files, even in Canadian ones. Worst, how come it is shared with other governments.

    This is blatant violation of privacy rights laws in Canada.

    Furhtermore, she had to be cleared by US homeland physicians, and her clearance records are now property of the US government. Nobody can rely of sane judgment of US homeland security as to which case is probable cause of worries, this is such a stupid judgment call as well.

    I hope that all these cases will sue the hell out of Canadian government and Canadian police for breach of the law, as the goverment was sued for the guy who was sent to Syria once in US airport while transiting to go to another country, to be beaten up for a year after sharing files with the US, just to be found out that the Canadians did not have anything valid on him.

    I hope Canada will be sued.
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    I wonder if I can cross the Canadian borders with my record of suicidal tendencies??
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    Default Re: New Immigration Rules: Denied entrace due to Mental Illness

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    I wonder if I can cross the Canadian borders with my record of suicidal tendencies??
    Has the police been in your home to pick you up, or have you been picked up by the police in the street? If yes, then probably you cannot enter Canada, although the examinations may be less strict here - less paranoid.

    If it is the case, I cannot believe there won't be a group suing of the government and police, because this is braking the actual Canadian privacy law. If in US, I hope the same laws exist in US and advocacy groups ensuring their implementations would help.

    Sorry for those situations where you do get these feelings, Shadowstalker, make sure you take care of yourself in time, always.
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    Default Re: New Immigration Rules: Denied entrace due to Mental Illness

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    [...]My point is: she has not been condemned of any criminal offense, she has not even been arrested, police just entered her home. How come such a record is kept at all in any files, even in Canadian ones.[...]
    Covering their backs? Judging by the way things go in the UK if someone kills themselves and then it comes out the Police or Social Services knew, people would ask what was done. By keeping the records they can say, "We did..."

    That doesn't justify sharing the data although I'm guessing it was shared using laws that were designed to share genuinely important information not things like this.

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    Default Re: New Immigration Rules: Denied entrace due to Mental Illness

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    I wonder if I can cross the Canadian borders with my record of suicidal tendencies??
    Has the police been in your home to pick you up, or have you been picked up by the police in the street? If yes, then probably you cannot enter Canada, although the examinations may be less strict here - less paranoid.

    If it is the case, I cannot believe there won't be a group suing of the government and police, because this is braking the actual Canadian privacy law. If in US, I hope the same laws exist in US and advocacy groups ensuring their implementations would help.

    Sorry for those situations where you do get these feelings, Shadowstalker, make sure you take care of yourself in time, always.
    Thank you Flash...
    No, no cops at my door.
    I am grateful things hadn't gotten that far.
    But with the way things are going I would have no doubt that checking psych records outright would be next on there list.

    Things really are getting out of hand out there.
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