Planet X/Nibiru/Tyche/Hercolobus/Elenin

[The Truth Is In There]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
Pretty soon we can also move on past the Calleman Mayan Calendar date (nothing will happen then, either!) and become more focused and rational on real issues.

IMO there are two such real issues for us all in the medium term future:

1. Global financial destabilization, and its potential political consequences -- probably in the next 12 months or sooner.
2. Serious solar activity that may threaten the power grid and global telecoms -- probably in 2013, but maybe not exactly predictable by anyone.

i, too, am convinced that, after the "end" of the mayan calendar (after the split), for people who are so focused on the "rational" and "scientific" everything WILL go on as before. some of them may wonder what happened to all the people who seem to have just disappeared but most will probably not even notice, what with all the earth changes, no internet and so on. the funny thing is, even that has been predicted.

[greybeard]

Posted by Carolin (here)

Posted by greybeard (here)
The word resonating really turns me off--- it implies I must be right because this resonates with me.
Many millions have lost their lives because they followed a leader, a path that resonated, felt right to them.
Sorry of topic,
I like to cross check with as many "informed" sources as are available and if in doubt I wait for more information.
I tend to believe that Elenin is in the process of decay but I dont claim I know.
Chris

res·o·nate (rz-nt)
v. res·o·nat·ed, res·o·nat·ing, res·o·nates
v.intr.
1. To exhibit or produce resonance or resonant effects.
2. To evoke a feeling of shared emotion or belief: "It is a demonology [that] seems to resonate among secular and religious voters alike" (Tamar Jacoby).
3. To correspond closely or harmoniously: "Symbolism matters, especially if the symbols resonate with the larger message" (William Greider).
v.tr.
To cause to resound.

So we shouldn't believe or do what feels right? I personally won't believe or do what doesn't feel right. Many millions have lost their lives because of intolerance and fear of speaking out about what resonates with them!! I guess Project Avalon isn't for me.

You seem to take it personally, its a general observation.

As an example we have had chaos here which lasted months because the words of Atticus resonated so strongly with some people, the exact opposite resonate with other people.
Both sides went with their feelings and it became very vitriolic.

Now, as then, I say wait and see.

The comet or remains of comet are not in a area where that can be observed at the moment as I understand it.

I have state that I suspect it is as you have said on the way out, breaking up.
I will be very happy if that is the case.

I do agree with Nearing---- Elenin is neither her nor there.
The prophesies of the indigenous people and others may prove to be so.

Fact
There is a galactic wave approaching us.
David Wilcok--- David Sereda and others of a scientific mind claim it has the potential to alter DNA.

It really is a question of being open minded and spiritual prepared for whatever may happen.

By spiritually prepared I mean -- Believe there is a loving Creator and that you are spirit having a human experience.
That remove fear of death,
Be kind to all including yourself.
That it, nothing complicated.

Chris

[truthseekerdan]

Hi folks, not sure if this video was posted here before, but interesting points are made from a biblical perspective.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=EY8LQ81xZBA

https://youtube.com/watch?v=EY8LQ81xZBA

Much love and wisdom

[nearing]

Posted by truthseekerdan (here)
Hi folks, not sure if this video was posted here before, but interesting points are made from a biblical perspective.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=EY8LQ81xZBA

https://youtube.com/watch?v=EY8LQ81xZBA

Much love and wisdom

Dan, THAT was really interesting. Seems many ancient 'myths' have something to say about events coming this fall! Everyone seems to have there one variation on the theme of being ready within (accepting Christ, raising your vibration, being silent, etc). But it all leads to one thing: Ascension after or during a time of great strife.

Hold on to your hats!

[TargeT]

Posted by truthseekerdan (here)
Hi folks, not sure if this video was posted here before, but interesting points are made from a biblical perspective.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=EY8LQ81xZBA

https://youtube.com/watch?v=EY8LQ81xZBA

Much love and wisdom

Even more reason to watch

Did you know the statue of liberty is symbolic of this event also? ( Isis!)

[yiolas]

Hi Guys, inspite of what is being said on the 'Death of Comet Elenin' thread I still believe that it is still live and well. Watch below this video put out by youtuber 'Envylife904', which shows Elenin being zapped by an explosion coming from Jupiter. Elenin turns a quick left (if infact it is Elenin) than continues on it way.

You can also go to the "SECCHI MOVIES" site , plug in Telescope HI1 and observatory SECCHI-B . Your dates should include August 23, 2011 when this event happened. You will clearly see the same movie that Envy is showing in his youtub video.
Two things strange about this:
1. Why is an explosion coming from Jupiter ?
2. How is this comet making a quick left turn ?

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=8qm9ZmE_cxk

https://youtube.com/watch?v=8qm9ZmE_cxk

[Huma]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
As far as I am concerned, the Sydneystargazers crew has provided enough evidence to demonstrate that comet Elenin is on its way out in every sense of the term.

Too right. Move on, folks -- the Elenin show is definitely over (thank goodness ).

Pretty soon we can also move on past the Calleman Mayan Calendar date (nothing will happen then, either!) and become more focused and rational on real issues.

IMO there are two such real issues for us all in the medium term future:

1. Global financial destabilization, and its potential political consequences -- probably in the next 12 months or sooner.
2. Serious solar activity that may threaten the power grid and global telecoms -- probably in 2013, but maybe not exactly predictable by anyone.

Glad to see you back bill . I humbly submit that the ET/UFO/Dimensional (what have you) question is still immensely important, if not for the simple reason that it is connected with bills first issue listed. I would also include the corollary issue of new physics and energy. I think Brian O'leary was right to focus on the subject he did, it is something I myself have given a lot more thought to as of late.

[araucaria]

Posted by truthseekerdan (here)
Hi folks, not sure if this video was posted here before, but interesting points are made from a biblical perspective.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=EY8LQ81xZBA

https://youtube.com/watch?v=EY8LQ81xZBA

Much love and wisdom

Thanks for the video.

We are cautious of yesterday's channelled material because we are aware that it is likely to some degree distorted. Revelation is channelled material from 2000 years ago embedded in a larger document (the Bible) which we know for a fact to be largely distorted. So the very premise of finding useful information in references to Revelation has to be pretty dubious from the outset - that at least is my take on this.

On one point of detail, when he says that 12 stars in Virgo's head points to Elenin (does this mean broken up?) is not, repeat not corroborated by, but incompatible with the assertion that there are 12 stars there all the time anyway.

[greybeard]

Posted by araucaria (here)

Posted by truthseekerdan (here)
Hi folks, not sure if this video was posted here before, but interesting points are made from a biblical perspective.
Much love and wisdom

Thanks for the video.

We are cautious of yesterday's channelled material because we are aware that it is likely to some degree distorted. Revelation is channelled material from 2000 years ago embedded in a larger document (the Bible) which we know for a fact to be largely distorted. So the very premise of finding useful information in references to Revelation has to be pretty dubious from the outset - that at least is my take on this.

On one point of detail, when he says that 12 stars in Virgo's head points to Elenin (does this mean broken up?) is not, repeat not corroborated by, but incompatible with the assertion that there are 12 stars there all the time anyway.

Yes I agree regarding Revelations, the belief that it is channeled and your other comments.
The extreme fundamentalist Christian churches quote that chapter almost as the mainstay of their belief and that in itself is almost a give away as to the lack of validity of it. Just fear ridden propaganda.
Do what the church dogma says or you are hell bound.

Accepting that Dan is not projecting this-- quite the opposite.

All I can say is that I feel at peace and believe that very positive events will unfold over the course of tim

Chris

[truthseekerdan]

Posted by araucaria (here)

Thanks for the video.

We are cautious of yesterday's channelled material because we are aware that it is likely to some degree distorted. Revelation is channelled material from 2000 years ago embedded in a larger document (the Bible) which we know for a fact to be largely distorted. So the very premise of finding useful information in references to Revelation has to be pretty dubious from the outset - that at least is my take on this.

On one point of detail, when he says that 12 stars in Virgo's head points to Elenin (does this mean broken up?) is not, repeat not corroborated by, but incompatible with the assertion that there are 12 stars there all the time anyway.

You're welcome, araucaria.

Technically everything (all ideas, concepts, etc.) is channeling or channeled. That in itself does not mean it does not hold truth. What you just stated can be described as channeling also, because it's downloaded from a 'mindset consciousness'. Does it make it 'truth'? Well at least for you, my friend...

In this reality (3D), truth is relative to ones perception, because this is a 'playground' to learn and progress (evolve) spiritually. The only Truth is that one exists (as consciousness or spirit), and that is the product of what we call Unconditional Love.

[araucaria]

Yes, truthseekerdan, like a homing pigeon I am merely heading somewhere less uncomfortable and hopefully leading 'home' whatever that means.

And yes, I am channelling too. I even posted something to that effect in defence of Darla on a Channelling thread. I find it amusing to think that my intellect works better in early morning after muling things over when half asleep. So there is a channelled component, but contrary to self-styled channelers, I refuse to switch off my critical faculty.

[araucaria]

Thanks too to nearing for that other vid. In the olden days, Halley's comet used to rhyme with Sally. In recent years, however, the pronunciation has become become contaminated by Bill Haley and his Comets rocking around the clock till broad daylight - harmless enough indeed. And didn't it split in two as well in 1986?

[Hervé]

Posted by yiolas (here)
Hi Guys, inspite of what is being said on the 'Death of Comet Elenin' thread I still believe that it is still live and well. Watch below this video put out by youtuber 'Envylife904', which shows Elenin being zapped by an explosion coming from Jupiter. Elenin turns a quick left (if infact it is Elenin) than continues on it way.

[...]

yiolas, please, watch this video:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=V0cqBwXNqn0

As for the sharp turn, Mercury does it all the time... Comet Elenin's orbit is almost parallel to this solar system's planet orbits. So that when you look from that orbital plane, planets either seem to make a sharp turn or go "retrograde" on their forward motion.

[truthseekerdan]

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=FKxfHWkMumI

https://youtube.com/watch?v=FKxfHWkMumI

[Hervé]

From: http://members.westnet.com.au/mmatti/sc.htm

LATEST IMAGES

C/2010 X1 Elenin
2011 Sep 11.39UT
3x1 minute exposures. Canon 300D and 300mm telephoto lens cropped. Compare to Guide V8 chart.
Moonlight interference. Elevation of 8 degrees. Between powerlines.
Comet Elenin is fainter than magnitude 10.0. Galaxy NGC 5697 is faintly visible but comet is not.


What does it mean? Simply that compared to pictures from August, comet Elenin's coma has almost completely diasappeared in spite of being closer to the Sun (should have increased) and closer to the Earth (should have made it more visible from Earth based telescopes).

... is no more... it has ceased to be...

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=KO1T7b07I7E

[Mandala]

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=NZkr03s36yM

[The Truth Is In There]

the bible predictions of revelation don't necessarily have to be channelled material. if it was a prophet then the one who saw this was in an altered state (/out of body) where time does not exist, thus he was able to see a possible future.

why did he see this particular point in the future?

because this point is a major node. if i'm right and november 9th is the moment when consciousness expands into infinity that means it will happen on all timelines simultaneously - a single point where all timelines converge and then split off again in different directions. that point is a beacon in the fabric of time and thus the eyes of all prophets were drawn to it, hence there exist so many predictions about this point in time.

BUT if you look hundreds or a few thousand years into the future and see things that don't exist in your current life you have to use other words to describe them, or you use metaphors that are common in your time. you may see things you have no concept of but have to use what's in your mind to make sense of it. i believe the prophet's intention was to describe what he saw as well as he could. this information could have been garbled later on (intentionally or not) but the gist of it is still there and the described planetary alignment is a FACT. the crown of 12 stars has nothing to do with elenin, btw.

[araucaria]

Posted by greybeard (here)

The extreme fundamentalist Christian churches quote that chapter almost as the mainstay of their belief and that in itself is almost a give away as to the lack of validity of it. Just fear ridden propaganda.
Do what the church dogma says or you are hell bound.

Accepting that Dan is not projecting this-- quite the opposite.

The other dangerous component in Revelations is of course prophecy – some people are back-engineering Armageddon with the Book of the Apocalypse as their blueprint. Others are trying to defuse that, notably pointing out that the word Apocalypse means Revelations, not Armageddon.

The Oedipus prophecy was only fulfilled because it was acted upon twice, with a misunderstanding each time: Laius mistakenly believing his son left for dead is actually dead, Oedipus mistakenly believing his adoptive father is his biological father. The point being that consulting oracles is not good for you – all would have been well had either refrained from consulting in the first place, or from trying to thwart the oracle in the second place.

Similarly, at the Vatican, the prophecies of Malachy regarding the succession of popes may be proving so accurate precisely because cardinals in conclave have been using them to screen candidates. If so, this would mean they are happy with Malachy’s idea that the next pope is going to be the last – part of the apocalypse scenario, no doubt. They should beware. It probably just means people have had enough of organized religion.

The whole great thing about the present moment is that all bets are off as to what the future may hold. There is effectively no future, just the present moment – which is not to say we have ‘no future’ in the colloquial sense, on the contrary.

[greybeard]

You pay your penny you make your choice.

An enlightened mystic of our day says that the the chapter revelations was channeled from the lower astral and that Armageddon will happen there not here, also that we are about to see the world totally diferently through a change in perception. He is still alive and the information is first hand.
Cd 1 The Highest level of Enlightenment Dr David Hawkins.

Eckhart Tolle in the book "A new Earth" speaks of new energy coming in.
As does David Sereda and David Wilcock.

Eckhart also spoke in London at a seminar, that I was at, on the subject of human evolution, saying that mankind is on the verge of the biggest step forward in evolution since we left the sea and became mammals--- that is big

I quote chapter and verse because Bill likes some verifiable data and he is right.

I would rather believe information coming first hand from the enlightened ones present here and now than the doctored information of thousands of yeas ago.
That was translate and re translated and from a different culture.
It seems a mystic in his own time and own land is not listened to with the same awe and wonder as a prophet from thousands of years ago.
The state of enlightenment is timeless, every single enlightened person will say the same truth only slightly modified by culture and era.
It is not channeled but known within the state of enlightenment.

This may seem off topic but it is in the essence of the search for truth related to the main topic and it is positive.

Chris

[araucaria]

Posted by greybeard (here)


The state of enlightenment is timeless, every single enlightened person will say the same truth only slightly modified by culture and era.
It is not channeled but known within the state of enlightenment.

This may seem off topic but it is in the essence of the search for truth related to the main topic and it is positive.

Chris

Thanks Chris. This is indeed the only topic. Tout le reste est littérature.