Was 9/11 Really an Inside Job?

[jc71]

Hi all,

I suspect my thread title will provoke some sort of ridicule, but I have probably looked into this as much as quite a lot of people on the forum, and I would have said that I was 99% convinced that 9/11 was perpetrated by an organisation other than Al Quaeda (whoever they might actually be).

However, is it completely naive to question back the other way - could this have been an attack that was triggered by simple anti-americanism?

What is the smoking gun that really says that this was an "inside job". And when people talk about "inside", do they mean "US Government/President", "Big Corporations", "Foreign Intelligence Agencies (Israel?)", "CIA", "Big Banks"?

I would welcome your constructive thoughts on this - I know it is old ground - but I feel like I am retracing old ground to check my facts and thinking...10 years on.

Regards,

J

[shadowstalker]

I believe it was a little bit of all, which would make sense as to the fact that not any one group can be pinned down as the culprit. they all had something to gain.

[Gaia]

I think it was inside but always beleived 9/11 was to get USA into Iraq and get Canadians into Afghanistan.

Oil and Lithium was the gain.

Gaia

[Unified Serenity]

Just look at all the coincidences of that day. Our military just happened to be doing an exercise mimicking such a scenario, same thing happened in London on 7/7. Larry Silverstein just happened to take over the WTC and insured them for a boatload of money 6 weeks prior and removed bomb sniffing dogs. No steel high rise bldgs had ever collapsed ever despite much hotter fires buring over 24 hours and yet these two giant bldgs came down so fast from jet fuel, and WTC 7 not even hit came down. Silverstein said, "Pull it". That doesn't happen in an hour. You don't pull down a bldg in an hours prep time. It takes weeks.

All those cameras on the Pentagon and not one good view of the plane hitting the bldg. No large debris on the lawn despite the wings taking out light poles outside of the pentagon. No, the entire plane went into a 16 ft hole 4 rings deep in the Pentagon. No markings on the wall where 7 ft titanium engines would have impacted the Pentagon wall. Again, no large debris in Pennsylvania, in fact the coroner said there was nothing to see. Even if they plowed into the ground, there should be blood all over the place.

Let's see, nano thermite evidence, strontium 90 and barium in dust covering Manhatten where the dust settled. Lots of stuff don't add up. I think WTC7 is the largest smoking gun.

[HORIZONS]

After all this time - and I have no smoking gun to report - I still can't help but think that it was all orchestrated, on many levels, by individuals in the highest positions of power to give the US a reason to start a war(s) and then to setup military bases in many new countries where we've not had them before. It also funded the MIC to the teeth, and created the needed opening to write new laws into effect that HAVE and WILL continue change our future liberties as citizens of this country. The US position that I have heard stated by the SoS is to "protect US interests here in this country and abroad" at whatever cost! It's a power trip at the darkest level of human expression.

[firstlook]

Compartments within compartments. Some knowingly, others not. All we know for sure is that 'Inside Job" means looking at who our government really is, what is their role in relation to agendas not in the open, and what systems of structure and "laws" allow people to get away with this.

Most of all, the evidence suggests that People within our government, meaning officials that supposedly represent us, are more then willing to either ignore the truth in exchange for positions of comfort, or are in some way in agreement with the act.

Its really about seeing who is on the side of truth or not. Following the truth. It doesn't even have to do with with "Justice" IMHO. People want to know who is intelligently willing to look at society and say "this needs to change", no matter if it costs them wealth, prestige, popularity, "safety", etc...

Inside Job = A society that still keeps secrets from each other. For whatever reasons, usually its about power and greed.
Inside Job = Critically examining any "authority".
Inside Job = Focusing on how people will succumb to fear and willingly give their rights and common sense away.
Inside Job = Trying to help expose a nasty element of society that cause the innocent murder of countless victims in the name of "patriotism"

Overall its just a term but everything going on behind the term is what people are really trying to expose. But you have to decide for yourself what "Inside Job" means and go from there.

Peace

[Sloppyjoe]

I've always believed it was, not only because the evidence is overwhelming but that I've always had this gut feeling it was. It's like when someone says "I just know it, I don't know how but I just do".

[HORIZONS]

Posted by Unified Serenity (here)
Just look at all the coincidences of that day. Our military just happened to be doing an exercise mimicking such a scenario, same thing happened in London on 7/7. Larry Silverstein just happened to take over the WTC and insured them for a boatload of money 6 weeks prior and removed bomb sniffing dogs. No steel high rise bldgs had ever collapsed ever despite much hotter fires buring over 24 hours and yet these two giant bldgs came down so fast from jet fuel, and WTC 7 not even hit came down. Silverstein said, "Pull it". That doesn't happen in an hour. You don't pull down a bldg in an hours prep time. It takes weeks.

All those cameras on the Pentagon and not one good view of the plane hitting the bldg. No large debris on the lawn despite the wings taking out light poles outside of the pentagon. No, the entire plane went into a 16 ft hole 4 rings deep in the Pentagon. No markings on the wall where 7 ft titanium engines would have impacted the Pentagon wall. Again, no large debris in Pennsylvania, in fact the coroner said there was nothing to see. Even if they plowed into the ground, there should be blood all over the place.

Let's see, nano thermite evidence, strontium 90 and barium in dust covering Manhatten where the dust settled. Lots of stuff don't add up. I think WTC7 is the largest smoking gun.

My thoughts exactly!! Thanks for reading my mind and writing it out for me~

[firstlook]

Oh and the "smoking gun" will always be Science. Empirical Science.

IMO.

[viscountvlad]

I find your post very interesting. I think it is perfectly plausible that a group of people were sufficiently agitated ideologically by the western way of life that they were moved to terrorism. I also see that there seems to be evidence for foul play or cover up from some inside agency. (I don't think that any evidence I've seen pinpoints who but you can superimpose your own evil masters (lizards, illuminati, the 33, anunnaki etc.)) I am by no means a conspiracy theorist (though I have looked into the area quite extensively) I will not allow myself to be drawn into the conspiracy mind set. When you look for conspiracy in everything you will find it, and all evidence to the contrary becomes part of the plot.

So yeah. I don't know who dunnit. I'm not convinced by either side completely but like the moon landings, it's part of history and alternative history now. I send my condolences to the families of those who died. whoever perpetrated the crime has the blood of innocents on their hands.

[eaglespirit]

Taking down the twin towers and building 7 and hitting the pentagon could NOT have been co-ordinated by ANY terrorist group around the world WITHOUT diligent-direct planning and co-ordination and access to advanced technologies by a VERY professional and organized group...THAT group being none other than directly paid factions of the MAIN financial manipulators of the economics(life as we know it) on this planet!!!

[firstlook]

Posted by firstlook (here)
Oh and the "smoking gun" will always be Science. Empirical Science.

IMO.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=6jixU7JG4pg

International Hearings on the Events of September 11, 2001


http://torontohearings.org/

Day1 - Part 1

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=fOLCb8Vx4_c

Day 1 - Part 2

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=QFc6lR-7BL0

Day 1 - Part 3

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=yhxULMsIxkc

Day 1 - Part 4

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=8lu8VAjYa6Q

[firstlook]

Continued.....

Day 2 - Part 1

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=dYOQZAELcsQ

Day 2 - Part 2

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=ktiFmmsbyRg

Day 2 - Part 3

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=E7ROidNMj_A

Day 2 - Part 4

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=ktiFmmsbyRg

[13th Warrior]

In a nutshell, world trade centers 1,2 and 7 were controlled demolitions; there would had to have been inside help in order to place the explosives ahead of time.

[wynderer]

also worthy of note is that the 'Patriot' Act was rammed thru both Houses immediately after 9/11 -- all 500 plus pages of it conveniently already written, & ready to go under the name of stopping 'terrorism'

[firstlook]

Posted by shadowstalker (here)
I believe it was a little bit of all, which would make sense as to the fact that not any one group can be pinned down as the culprit. they all had something to gain.

I totally agree. This is what makes the issue a important one beyond just "who did it". Its about looking at how different groups of society act with each other. What is the well known exchanges of give and take, and what are the not so well known dealings.

When I started understanding the "inside job" theory, I realized it was about communication between people and how well our society understands this facet of life on earth.

Interaction is a complicated subject divided by so many labels, cultural concepts, class, etc...

"Inside Job" opened so much to me.

[HORIZONS]

Posted by wynderer (here)
also worthy of note is that the 'Patriot' Act was rammed thru both Houses immediately after 9/11 -- all 500 plus pages of it conveniently already written, & ready to go under the name of stopping 'terrorism'

Yep! all 500 pages that NO person had ever read, except the author(s). And the thousands of pages of subsequent legislation afterwards. What a scam that was, and still is.

[SKIBADABOMSKI]

*Please note that this is just a wild guess*

Heres my take on what happened on that day..

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Just remember that they would never rely on terrorists to do the job. They could screw up everything. Those first 2 planes had to hit those towers regardless of anything.

[Corncrake]

Simply. I don't believe the US Government's version or the UK's for that matter. There are just too many anomalies, loose ends and unanswered questions. I have heard the official account of the events ad nauseum both ten years ago and during the last week. I have watched documentaries by Loose Change and many others, I have listened to Dr Judy Wood and have been to lectures by David Ray Griffin. I have read the many threads here over the years and been rattled by the debunkers! I am still confused and I think that is part of the plan. I guess they are hoping in time that as in the case of the assassination of JFK all the questions will just go away ... and we will just move on to the next issue.

[firstlook]

False flag attacks also has been well documented as a action governments have been willing to partake in during the past.

I also find that people who dont want to put to much effort in the "Inside Job" theory, do not want it running their life. Thats understandable. You dont have to know the truth and let something control you. Everyone participates in this subject very differently. Its most important to remember that when discussing the truth of 9/11, that you want to make people feel empowered and helpless. Its all about how you present your perception. Always end on a high note.

Just never be afraid when people make you feel guilty about your opinions. Thats the worst thing anyone can do. Alot of people IMO sit in the "I'm not sure" position because they are quilted into it. Always rely on facts and not emotions. Use your emotions to enlighten and uplift people to those facts.