How to Stop the Gulf Oil "Spill"

[Thinker]

I have been informed that the oil in the gulf has been stopped with a top-kill. I have also discovered that Bill Ryan can be a bigger pinhead than most because of the listening he is afforded by his followers. Trusting a back channel source is no more reliable than a mainstream source as I pointed out in my posts.

I have been informed that the length of pipe below the sea floor has a split, tear, crack running lengthwise. A stopper will only redirect the pressure to the split. My mistake based on insufficient information. My apologies.

Summary:

• Stick a cork in it!

Overview:

• A large metal pipe can accept a cork just as any pipe can. The materials may be different but the principle is the same.

Steps:

1. Make an even / straight cut on the end of the pipe. DONE!
2. Make a soft metal (Aluminum, Copper, Brass) stopper, which is self aligning.
3. Attach a Weight heavy enough to compensate for the force of the Oil and Gas.
4. If the weight is greater than the pipes friction in its hole add brackets to stop it from sinking below the sea floor.
5. Lower the Stopper with Weight into position. If a surface crane is too erratic use a Submarine and an ROV to release the weight when in position.

Objections:

• If you come back and tell me the Pipe can’t support the Weight, then the pipe can’t resist the pressure of the oil either.
• If the US Navy can’t find a Submarine with sufficient buoyancy (with its crew on leave) then the idea is to keep the spill going.

Conclusion:

• This is not rocket science fella’s. If you can’t do it, you’re fired! Take your hands out of your pockets and get to work!

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[Caren]

Thinker, love the picture of Donald!
caren

[Tuza]

Why would you drill for oil 5,000 feet under the sea anyway? I was told the Russians had tried this and failed miserably, mmmh, something smells here.

[Lost Soul]

Fissures supposedly open elsewhere besides the broken pipe.

[jimmer]

from what I've read, the sub-sea floor pipe is so compromised (blown apart) that top 'plugs' are meaningless.
what appears as a fix, the two relief drillings due in August, will be unsuccessful. it's a time waster and obfuscation.

they don't know what to do, dreading the only obvious solution: nukes, crystalizing and sealing the sea floor.
lots of unintended consequences are possible.

[Thinker]

Dear Naysayers:

1. If fishers and cracks will break out around the pipe, then it is impossible to stop (shut off) any well at anytime, anywhere in the world. I’m sorry, is it just this particular well with that particular problem?
2. The wreckage on the sea floor has been moved from around the pipe.
3. I watched a news video reporting that a diamond saw had gotten stuck while cutting the end of the pipe straight. It was later successful. This is why step one says DONE.

We as a society have little hope of surviving the days ahead if everyone bases their decisions on imagination and fantasy rather than observation and evidence. Our culture has been so abused and traumatized that some can only find peace in a fantasy.

Thank God for reality and the means to escape it. – Anthony (Tony) de Mello

I can be factious at times. No offence intended to anyone on the thread.

[jimmer]

the russians have had similar unstoppable deep well breaches.
although vastly unreported, they tried everything without luck, until they nuked the sea floor.

[Bill Ryan]

Hi, Thinker (and welcome - there's a lot of reading to do: all this has been extensively discussed on other threads)

Read this first:

http://projectavalon.net/The_BP_Deep...n_the_Gulf.pdf

and/or listen to this:

http://projectavalon.net/The_BP_Deep..._June_2010.mp3

The well casing is ruptured below the seabed in a totally inaccessible place, over a thousand feet into the strata below the sea floor. If the outflow is blocked, more pressure comes on the rupture potentially resulting in a REALLY out-of-control situation. That's WHY they're letting the oil and gas flow freely. They have no choice.

That's also why they abruptly stopped the 'top kill' attempts - after SEVENTEEN of them. They all failed. Bottom kill is the only option (blocking the well casing from the bottom, not the top).

The GOOD news is that they are ahead of schedule:

http://edition.cnn.com/2010/US/06/28...id=aT40nwcGzvn

The bottom kill may be successful as early as mid-July. This is what will do it. No top kill can work now.

[Thinker]

Thanks for the additional information. Bill.

[Thinker]

I have been informed that the length of pipe below the sea floor has a split, tear, crack running lengthwise. A stopper will only redirect the pressure to the split. My mistake based on insufficient information. My apologies.

[pyrangello]

Concentrate on sucking up the major spill from the main source , put the dome on it with a hose like a filling station to an underwater manifold that can fill supertankers non-stop one after another. At least this will stop the enviromental disaster from getting bigger as this pipe may not be able to be capped due to it's pressure. Your on the right direction THINKER it's the pressure issue and blowing the fractures in the line that are the real issue at present. Either cut it off below the fractures or suck it from the top without capping it.

[Thinker]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
Hi, Thinker (and welcome - there's a lot of reading to do: all this has been extensively discussed on other threads)

Read this first:

http://projectavalon.net/The_BP_Deep...n_the_Gulf.pdf

and/or listen to this:

http://projectavalon.net/The_BP_Deep..._June_2010.mp3

The well casing is ruptured below the seabed in a totally inaccessible place, over a thousand feet into the strata below the sea floor. If the outflow is blocked, more pressure comes on the rupture potentially resulting in a REALLY out-of-control situation. That's WHY they're letting the oil and gas flow freely. They have no choice.

That's also why they abruptly stopped the 'top kill' attempts - after SEVENTEEN of them. They all failed. Bottom kill is the only option (blocking the well casing from the bottom, not the top).

The GOOD news is that they are ahead of schedule:

http://edition.cnn.com/2010/US/06/28...id=aT40nwcGzvn

The bottom kill may be successful as early as mid-July. This is what will do it. No top kill can work now.

Bill,
The split, crack, rip can only be proven by the people who caused the “spill”. This scenario is far too convenient for the same people who brought you 911 and 77. Why do you believe them?

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by Thinker (here)
Bill,
The split, crack, rip can only be proven by the people who caused the “spill”. This scenario is far too convenient for the same people who brought you 911 and 77. Why do you believe them?

Hi there again: If I'm understanding you correctly (which it's possible I may not be) - I think you may have this upside down.

The rupture in the well casing is NOT BEING ADMITTED by BP or the PTB. The person ('SHR'), whose GLP forum posts are archived in the PDF and who is speaking in the MP3, is not an insider.

Do read and listen to these to get a better idea of the reasons to strongly suspect a well casing rupture.

There have been other rumors of this, too, elsewhere in the media. In my personal view, this is the most likely physical scenario... but there are other complications, too. BP's lack of transparency leaves us all having to make educated guesses.

There are also quite a few other threads on this forum where these issues have been extensively discussed. Do take a good look - and thanks again for all your enthusiasm to participate.

But plugging up the well casing at the top is not workable... if it could be done, it would have been done already.

There were seventeen top kill attempts, and they backed off that fairly abruptly when SOMETHING became clear to the engineers. What that was, we are guessing. But we can guess smartly.

The problems are complex, and the extremely high pressures in the reservoir are a major part of the issue. The problems are real, and there's no simple off switch.

The chain of events that led to this situation being uncorked is a different discussion. My personal opinion still supports that of Lindsey Williams... when talking with Alex Jones (listen here), I think he got it spot on.

[Jonathon]

We will have to pray the bottom kill can be executed successfully. I guess the trick is to get deep enough to cut off the primary pre-fractured segment, otherwise the pressure will simply be redirected to another site.

Not knowing much about the true risks of nuking - although I understand the principle - my mind wonders what the probability is of opening a larger cavern in the well. At this point, I don't see that there is a choice.

I have a feeling this is going to get far worse before it gets better, however I am praying for the best possible outcome - whatever that may be. In the grand scheme of things, everything is perfectly what it is and it is no accident that we find ourselves exactly where we are. However, other than praying, visualizing perfect outcomes and other personal manifesting of intention, I feel rather powerless to effect this situation directly. I keep reminding myself that all is well and there is a time to every season and the silver lining may be miraculous. For now, I stand ready albeit a bit shaken.

[Thinker]

Bill,
Thank you for your reply and you understood me perfectly with the possible exception that I am no longer pushing for a top-kill (corection: stopper-kill). If I can paraphrase; you believe the information because it is from an unofficial source and it explains the actions of BP making no additional effort to top-kill.

I will confess that I do not have a lot invested in this problem because there is little if anything I can do to reduce the destruction.

All tragedies natural or man made seem to be exploited to the full benefit of the NWO. The fact that our information is obtained covertly does not make it credible. The East and West played the disinformation game for years.

If the Georgia Guidestones are to be believed, the agenda is to eliminate 95% of the population. Destroying a major food source will help to facilitate this agenda. To understand a rat you have to think like a rat. The location of this “spill” is perfect for destroying not only the Gulf but also the entire Eastern Seaboard, two major sources of seafood. If successful it will accomplish fare more for the NWO than Cheney and Rumsfeld.

To silently watch and wait for a bottom-kill in July or Aug. serves the NWO not the people. The only way to get the NWO to act responsibly is to ride them like your hair is on fire.

Offered with my most sincere and best intentions.

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by Thinker (here)
Bill,
Thank you for your reply

[snip]

Thank you for yours!

[Thinker]

Bill,
Not exactly the response I was hoping for.

Your responses leave me feeling like I’m being chloroformed.

First with a verbose explination of how little I understand.

Second with next to nothing when I demonstrate how much I do understand.

Please elaborate on how weighting till July/Aug. based on what can easily be disinformation serves the people?

No disrespect intended.

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by Thinker (here)
Bill,
Not exactly the response I was hoping for.

Your responses leave me feeling like I’m being chloroformed.

First with a verbose explination of how little I understand.

Second with next to nothing when I demonstrate how much I do understand.

Please elaborate on how weighting till July/Aug. based on what can easily be disinformation serves the people.

Thinker, I thanked you for your contribution, and I meant it.

If this is a question you're asking now...

Please elaborate on how weighting till July/Aug. based on what can easily be disinformation serves the people

... I didn't understand it.

If it's a personal statement of frustration about having to sit and watch and wait for someone else to fix this while you yourself feel powerless and don't know what to do to make anything better - then I DO understand.

[Thinker]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
The bottom kill may be successful as early as mid-July. This is what will do it. No top kill can work now.

Sorry for leaving the "?" off, Yes it is a question, more precisely a request.

Does this quote make my question clear?

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by Thinker (here)

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
The bottom kill may be successful as early as mid-July. This is what will do it. No top kill can work now.

Sorry for leaving the "?" off. Yes it is a question.

Does this quote make my question clear?

No. I have absolutely no idea what you're asking. Personally, I am doing something... everything I can, given that I'm based in Europe.

I ALWAYS encourage people to be proactive. Did you read the posts I made on this thread? (If not, it might help to read them now.)

Personally, at the moment I'm doing what I do best - using the resources at my disposal. I'm not about to catch a plane to Florida to pick oil off the beach.

Your resources (and what you do best) may be different. Go join the clean-up, start a website, make a video, call the media, chain yourself to the railings outside the White House. Whatever you think is best. But don't be an armchair critic of others' work.

If you're a warrior, which it seems you are, then get grounded, get well-informed, stay cool, be smart, don't jump the gun, get your timing right (and also your mission targets), and then do what you came here to do.

Sifting out the truth from the lies is part of the job. We all have to do that as best we can. I'm doing my part in that. You do yours - but be smart and do your research. Then tell us what you've got.