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    Hi Robert,

    Thank you for your understanding, support and encouragement. You share words of experience and thus wisdom from lessons you have learned. I take strength from your words and know that love is the answer for us all. Sending you lots of strength and love right back to carry you through your time of healing. Take care of yourself dear brother
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    Hi Wade,

    I can hardly wait for the documentary to come out as it sounds fantastic from the trailer. Thanks for the heads up as this sure sounds like a winner for FE consciousness to greater numbers of people.

    Yes spring and the sunshine are my favorite days as well however fall does come in second due to the beautiful colors the creator covers Mother Earth in and shows off another one of the wonders of our world.

    As always, look forward to your writings, insight and feedback and thanks for the support in helping me stay present and aware by your non stop writing and posting. I find I just have to come to the thread and read a little to enliven my sense of wholeness and gratitude to be here and now experiencing such an exciting time to be alive........All is Well!!
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    Hi Ulli:

    Vesperman began a petition some months ago. He is one of the FE good guys, so I signed it.

    http://www.signon.org/sign/end-suppression-of-energy

    But I admit that delivering it to a politician is not exactly guaranteed to work.

    Hi all:

    We will see how that movie goes. Greer’s Disclosure Project was a powerful way to get the message across, which is why the Big Boys had to start killing people:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/journey.htm#adamiak

    http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/so...l_mj12_4_1.htm

    That movie seems to be moving along those lines, so we will see. All of the FE people in that movie survived murder attempts, so they know the territory.

    There have been a bunch of posts to Avalon on that Thrive movie, and I was just looking at one of the threads, and I was surprised to see Dennis:

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post304868

    I have not watched that documentary before, but I suppose that I have to put it on my list now. Finding two hours to watch it (and I am subtitle dependent with my increasing deafness) will be the hard part.

    Enjoy the rest of summer,

    Wade

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    It's a rare occasion these days that I don't talk about free energy with people outside of work that i meet for the first time. Conversations about career, TV shows, sport etc don't interest me, so i've decided to take control of the conversation and steer it towards FE and living in abundance. I've had some success with people but most are put off by the sheer volume of info contained on Wade's website, lamenting about how they just don't have the time to read it all. Something like that 'Thrive' documentary may complement Wade's material nicely as an introduction for those short on time. I should maybe also have a go at writing my own book.
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    Hello Tyler,

    If I got this right, your efforts are somewhat similar to Dennis's sales pitch: try to sneak the free energy idea behind the conscious mind of the person in front of you! If they are too blind folded to see what's good for them, at least try to trick them into accepting it.

    While I agree that your FE chat is much more interesting than the "casual gossip or weather talk", because you need to "trick the persons mind" and somewhat manipulate them into "the free energy issue", it seems the base of your effort is not really solid. Once your charm is out of their face, these people will completely forget the free energy idea and will dive back into the "daily real life", spinning the wheels of the system, too busy making a living to think of abundance.

    Probably your book will have more success because it will require a conscious effort to buy it, and genuine interest to actually read it!

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    Ilie,

    I'm not really 'sneaking it by them' - more 'parking it right under their noses'. I used to work in sales and customer service so I am used to interacting with people from all walks of life. I never see most of the people that I interact with ever again, but some i do. With those, i can prod them a little harder the second and third times to see if they are interested in taking a deeper sniff. Ultimately i have nothing to lose here. These are just random people that i encounter. I enjoy the challenge. If one person out of a hundred that I talk to gets something from Wade's writing or my ramblings then that's the job done for me. They certainly wouldn't have learned anything about FE if i had started waffling on about how bad the weather has been this summer, or if I had discussed another meaningless weekends worth of sporting action.
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    I'm always amazed at how little the average person really knows, not talking of anyone here at Avalon. They cannot even name the planets, in or out of order. They know virtually nothing about biology, philosophy, math, chemistry, physics etc, etc, etc.
    How can you tell them about FE. First you have to educate them in all the areas they are ignorant about - it is really hard going.
    My former best friend of over twenty years is a good example. For the first five years I simply listened to his views on the world, agreeing but with reservations to be brought up later. Then after five years I began his training. Ten more years and I finally had his attention. Another few years and he finally agreed I knew something. A few more years and I had him discussing things at a relatively high level.
    But then I hit a wall. He could not accept certain aspects of reality as I presented it, even with proof! I would give him books to read, articles from mags and newspapers etc. He even read my books. (One of the few to ever take the time). And in the end, we had a falling out. I may have overloaded him because he went down the dark path after that, disappearing into the drug culture where I could not follow, or would not.
    I hear he has lost fifty pounds and begs on the street corner, among other nasty things.
    So sad.

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    Hi all:

    Great subject. Tyler, you always seemed like a salesman, and I mean that in a good way. Dennis is a marketing Einstein, and I helped and watched the master build killer sales teams from nothing. Salesmen are believers, and deep down, almost all of them really want to sell something that they believe in. But, the economy is full of rackets, so most of what they sell is schlock (that is why salesmen are needed ), and almost all sales jobs pay by commission, so salesmen are encouraged to become mercenaries. They are extroverts, so they get their energy from interacting with people. I am an introvert, so it takes energy to interact with people, and I have to conserve my energy (yes, it is ironic that I flack for FE with that limitation ). I could go on for a long time about salesmen and the public.

    Your proposed approach works for John. Q. Public, if somebody like Dennis is going to sell them a super heat pump. But, as Dennis found out the hard way, you can’t out-herd the shepherd. I have watched Dennis go from pure capitalistic opportunity to “just Christians” to “Patriots” to “save the environment” to “bang on the White House doors” to non-profit charity to the Madison Avenue game. I don’t know what Dennis has not tried. Well, actually, I do, which is what I am trying. Engaging the public like he does, or through the mass media, develops an awareness that is a mile wide and an inch deep. I am shooting for an inch wide and a mile deep, and class has not really begun yet.

    As you are finding, people do not want to read. But that post-literate attitude that you are finding has more to do with mental laziness than it does that they simply do not have enough time. They want to be spoon-fed. You can’t spoon-feed them a paradigm-shift, not one that nearly the entire world opposes.

    While that upcoming Thrive show might end up being good work (going on something like that with Adam and Brian would be an honor, but I play at a lower level, and am fine playing where I do – I have not had to survive a murder attempt yet, and have yet to live behind bars), at best, it will spur some people to go deeper, probably about 1% of the intended audience, and you are right in that it will not be for mass release in three thousand theaters. And we are not going to get to the FE finish line until enough of us can go deep. This is what I found out after years with Dennis, and many more years watching him from afar, trying to connect with people, to get them willing to save their own hides. He has had his successes, but the crowd only paid attention when Dennis was about to pull a rabbit out of his hat (or give them a free energy machine, like he did in Seattle). Then they would flip the channel to Dancing with the Stars when his show was over. And if he ever began to gain more traction, then the big media would get involved, spraying their lies about him on national TV shows (there have been several, and all feature the lying Mr. Skeptic and friends), and then you get to watch those close to you buy the BS, hook, line and sinker. The story of my mother saving up those newspaper clippings and taking them on tour to my friends and family is intended as a cautionary tale for those who think that they can awaken the herd:

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post300436

    The dark shepherd has total control of them. Anybody who tunes into an FE show because some A-list celebrities are hosting it will tune into Dancing with the Stars the next hour, and so on. You might reach one-in-a-thousand that way, to inspire them to go a little deeper, but that is about it. If you have the courage and persistence of Dennis, you know that those are the numbers, but you do it anyway, because you are looking for gold nuggets in a mountain of mine tailings, and you live to find the nuggets. I am not saying that that does not have its place, but only somebody with the persistence of a Dennis will do it for long.

    I am not saying that multimedia presentations won’t work, but at best, they can only inspire people to do the work to begin to gain knowledge. As Chomsky says, if people want to really learn, they have to do the work. Nobody can spoon feed it to them. Those who say that they can will deliver its opposite: mind-controlling dogma.

    I am trying to do something very different, as Ilie knows. I fully admit that I am looking for needles in haystacks. I am seeking to form a nucleus that is not going to be distracted by the latest media event, the latest energy “solution” bandied about, like biofuels, hydrogen power, the crazy flacking for nuclear power that “progressives” like Monbiot have been doing lately, and so on. It has taken a lifetime to gain the perspective that I have today, and if I did not think that that perspective was not important, I would not have done my site or be posting at Avalon. And, as you can see, it is attracting some deep thinkers like Ilie and Ernie, and that is my intention. I sympathize with your intention, greatly. I have watched Dennis try the approach that you suggest for twenty-five years, and I rode with him in the saddle for the most dramatic years of his ride. He is the best that there ever was, for what he does, but I finally decided to do something else. He has even changed his tune over the years, and is going for quality over quantity, in his own way, but playing to the trailer parks, Bible bangers and “patriots” has some big downsides, but that is Dennis’s background, so I can see why he does it. In his own way, he is trying to form a nucleus.

    So, your suggestion has its place, Tyler, but it is not what I am trying to do. You yourself have estimated that about one-in-a-thousand are awake and awakening. That is a good number, IMO, and that is who I am reaching for. What you suggest is going after the other 999. I think that they will only be reached, really, when somebody delivers a FE device to their door, like Machiavelli said:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#machiavelli

    For what you suggest, you should go look up Dennis, go look up the producer of Thrive, go pounding down Madison Avenue. They will be interested, but you will also need to prove yourself, because they have all seen a thousand pretenders for every one who was the real deal. I worked for Dennis for several months, for free, before he began to take me seriously. I have not mentioned it yet, but soon after I encountered Ilie in cyberspace, he translated one of my essays into Romanian and tried to attract the attention of the Romanian FE enthusiasts. He received a collective yawn (so surprise there), but that Ilie did that, on his own initiative, said a lot about him, and I immediately paid him a lot of attention. He showed how real he was, but he also kept cautioning me, saying that he was no hero. I had to keep reminding him that I am not looking for heroes, but people who can just sing the abundance song. But it has to be their song, not mine. Yes, I am recruiting for the choir, and I am humming a few notes to get it going, but it will only work when each person can sing their song, and before somebody delivers a FE machine to their home!

    As I have been stating recently, people have been trying to get me to be on TV, and I have no interest in that. I lived in LA, and have a bunch of friends in Hollywood. Perhaps not surprisingly, some of my best friends in Hollywood know that something like the FE show will never play, but they have used me as a resource, where they pick my brain on aspects of my work. I am actually a character in more than one book, sometimes as a fictional character with my name, and at other times playing myself. They know and I know that now is not the time to play the Hollywood game with the masses, not for FE. When I see young bucks trying to get me involved with TV shows to “expose” the Big Boys and other aspects of the FE conundrum, I wish them the best, but have no interest in it. And they have a hard time understanding why I feel the way that I do. My response is usually something like, “Good luck. After you have been at it for a while, with your show shot down or corrupted by the ‘suits’ a hundred times, I’ll still be here, and we can talk.” Hollywood is Godzilla's turf. I know what they are up against, and they have yet to find out, but to be full of youthful vigor can be a heady place to be, especially when you have glimpsed material that blows away the fiction in Hollywood by so much that you can’t believe that nobody is covering it (or they make movies like Chain Reaction, which exploit your work in grotesque ways – I talk about that in my interview with Scott and Tom, starting at 13:46 into this clip http://www.spectrumradionetwork.com/...inventors.html – see I do some non-writing work! ). I am sympathetic, and for those who make an honest attempt at it, they are in for the education of their lives, an education that they never imagined they would get, but not many get very far along that path before they drop out, often with their lives wrecked. I have seen that one too many times, and I really don’t want to watch anymore.

    Anyway, again, great subject. I can’t do it justice in anything less than a few days, but I think I got the gist of it across.

    Gotta go to work now.

    Best,

    Wade
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    WOW,

    Great stuff to read again! IMHO all we can really accomplish in present time is the planting of seeds if the ground and atmosphere is condusive to growth in some small way. Like Johnny Apple Seed, we try our best to create a future crop of good apples and must remember we are only the gardner. It is up to the creator to find enough sunshine and manure to grow their own seeds from within.

    I stay conscious of only being the seed planter and do not take responsibility for anymore than that these days. Looking for the fruits of your labor can be disillussioning, disheartening and self defeating in moving one away from self growth into responsibility and validation for others evolution, feeding the ego more so than the soul.
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    I have encountered no shortage of stumbling blocks with my sales pitch type efforts!

    I tend to find marginally more joy with vegan types. Mystical and spiritual types are also quite receptive on the rare occasions that I encounter them. I live and work in Asia now and also find some fertile ground among the expat community who tend to have a wider perspective on things than folk who don't own a passport and have never left their native land.

    I enjoyed these quotes about Dennis’ efforts:

    Quote Engaging the public like he does, or through the mass media, develops an awareness that is a mile wide and an inch deep. I am shooting for an inch wide and a mile deep.

    .....And if he ever began to gain more traction, then the big media would get involved, spraying their lies about him on national TV shows (there have been several, and all feature the lying Mr. Skeptic and friends), and then you get to watch those close to you buy the BS, hook, line and sinker.
    So the sales pitch method as demonstrated by Dennis for 25 years ultimately wont work. Getting big investors on board wont work either. The warrior approach wont work. Sneaking it under the big boys' radar wont work. There is no point getting bogged down in the physics/technology aspect of FE devices at this stage either. All that we are realistically left with is your approach, yes? I've quizzed plenty, and racked my own brain with all this, and i'm coming to the conclusion that it may just be.

    The issue that i have with simply 'imagining' a world of abundance is not so much the imagining part - its the getting from this point A where we are now, to that point B, in as short a time frame as possible. If there are no shortcuts, then how is this going to happen if the big boys have the whole thing sewn up?! What's the next phase after the imagining and singing part? Or might the power and intent of just enough people singing the same chorus in the same choir actually be enough to get this ball rolling fast enough?

    That book that you mentioned a few times just arrived in the post - ‘Seth and The Nature of Personal Reality’ by Jane Roberts. Looking forward to having a read of it.
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    Hello Tyler,

    There is a concept called "soul searching". I do not speak native English so I will not go into what that means for me, but let me use it as an example as to "how we get there".

    For many years I did not believe that I have a "soul". This is important because if I "knew" I don't have a soul, why on Earth I'd be searching for it!? It would be a waste of my time! So the biggest leap in the "soul finding" quest was to accept the idea that "I might have a soul after all"... that I don't really know what and who I am...

    Same is with Free Energy. At this moment in time the vast majority of humans do not even try to imagine free energy because they "know" that is not possible!

    Can you see now, why the imagination exercise is so very very important? It's even more important than the "how"! It must come before the how. Once free energy will enter our mass awareness then we get to think at the "how". And I have hunch the that how will present itself. It is very important to break out of this vicious circle that free energy is not even imaginable.
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    Brilliant post, Sandy.

    My mid-life crisis:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#journey

    was really about learning to let go of the outcome of my efforts. I got a mid-life crisis served up to order. I had already been in it for a year when I saw those smoking towers:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/cover-up.htm#sept11

    and at that moment, I knew that my efforts were going to be too little and too late, and then I got a total nightmare for the next five years, until that White House invitation:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paths.htm#crisis

    As I emerged from the other side of those fun and games, I realized that all I can do, really, is put out the vision and information. Nobody can do this by themselves, even Indiana Jones. Dennis eventually realized that he was just a ringleader; one hell of a ringleader, but a ringleader nevertheless. Dennis still lives by his faith, and in ways that can be hard to believe. I am not into faith, not in the religious way, and I am not even sure that I trust that voice in my head all that much, but I eventually came to a place of just putting out the truth as I know it, and see what happens. If it does not turn out like I imagine, it, then it doesn’t, and there is not much that I can do about it. I know that the tools to have Heaven on Earth are here, today, but maybe that is not the plan for this planet. And maybe it is, but none of us can really force it into being. There is something bigger happening here, and I am not sure what it all is, but I get glimpses. That is partly why I advocate the lamb’s path.

    I am sympathetic to the sense of urgency and desperation that many feel, but we can’t force it, and I don’t care if Nibiru’s arrival is December 21, 2012. We can only do our part, and I see that, at least for those of us who want to experience Heaven on Earth for ourselves and as many who want it, the only thing that we can really do at this time is increase our awareness. For those who want to play Indiana Jones, or try the Wall Street or Hollywood avenues, they are out there to try, and good luck with it.

    One of my favorite sayings, as I have been in the business world my entire career, is, “I am too busy bailing the boat to patch the hull.” I see constant emergency-state thinking, and it is almost always counterproductive in the big picture. Learning to relax and let go of all the emergency, desperation thinking, has been one of my key lessons.

    Best,

    Wade

    OK, this will be a little Godzilla addendum.

    I have written about how when Mr. Big Time Attorney saw how the media responded to his lawsuit in federal court against the good folks in Ventura County:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#disbar

    That is when the wind began to get taken out of his sails. Dennis later wrote that it felt like they were shaking their fists at a hurricane. Mr. Big Time Attorney received further education when he was threatened with “sanctions” (disbarment) if he refilled that lawsuit once the courts dismissed it. After the sobering moment on the courthouse steps, Mr. Big Time Attorney began fading out of the picture, and submitting his motion to withdraw before the judge ruled on the prosecutorial misconduct hearings really undercut Dennis’s case. Then the judge pounced on Mr. Big Time Attorney, essentially taking him hostage and forcing Dennis into the plea bargain.

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#bargain

    So, the plea was this: Dennis pled guilty to not filing the form and paying fifty dollars. The judge recommended probation, but Dennis had already seen how corrupt the probation department was with his bail appeals (and they worked directly for the DA),

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#probation

    so he took his chances with the appeal process. The plea bargain was that the higher courts would rule on the Constitutionality of the law as it applied to his case. As you could see from that appeals ruling (which was only one appeal level of a number),

    http://law.justia.com/cases/federal/...59/240/220419/

    they did nothing of the sort, but said essentially, “The defendant pled guilty, so why are we reviewing this?” It went that way all the way through the appeals process. But before Dennis entered into the plea, Mr. Big Time Attorney said that it would take several years for the appeal to work its way through all the courts, and that he would do the appeals for free, if Dennis pled guilty to not filing that form. And that came from the nation’s leading Constitutionalist attorney, who told me that he sometimes had to carry a gun when defending his clients, because of the threats. He lost his vigor at the end of his defense of Dennis.

    Dennis never slowed down, and began trying to rebuild the effort right after getting out of jail, calling his company Resurrection Marketing, with Mr. Professor footing the bill (and that is largely what drove Mr. Professor into bankruptcy). The effort soon failed, but by that time I had moved to Ohio. Dennis then went on hundreds of talk radio shows. He joined the Patriot Movement (and quickly discovered that the movement was largely bogus, with the leaders being either corrupt or not who they appeared to be),

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/dennis.htm#libel

    and he also tried a Madison Avenue approach.

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#steal

    Just as he was getting a head of steam again, his appeal went through the system in record time (a little more than two years), for another amazing coincidence! Mr. Big Time Attorney bowed out of the appeals process earlier than he said he would, and Dennis had another prominent attorney defending him at the U.S. Supreme Court level. By that time, the appeal included the fact that the lower courts had not honored the plea bargain and never ruled on the Constitutionality of the law as it applied to his case. California’s Supreme Court did not respond to his brief, and he should have prevailed because they did not act, but after the time elapsed, the U.S. Supreme Court ordered California to respond, and then passed review. Things happened during that string of events that left his lawyer (with a national reputation) scratching his head, saying that he had never seen the U.S. Supreme Court do that before.

    Then Dennis was summoned to California, where he made a motion to withdraw his plea because the appeal courts never held up their end of the bargain. The Ventura County Superior Court judge said that withdrawing his plea was not an option, and although he noted that Dennis could make an interesting appeal for how the appeals process went, he sent Dennis straight to prison. And it was not easy time, as it should have been for somebody whose crime was not filing a form. The prison system made several “mistakes” in the file used to give him his security rating. Although his college years, his military service, and the fact that he had a wife and children should have all been heavily weighted toward making him an ideal minimum security inmate, they somehow got it all wrong in his file. He was not married, had no children, and was never in the college or the military.

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#mistakes

    What tragic “mistakes.” He was sent to a medium security prison, put in with murderers. His first cellmate was a multiple murderer. He was nearly murdered in that prison, but got “lucky” and only had some fingers broken and teeth knocked out, and the guards put him in position to get murdered.

    Dennis’s wife never gave up, and kept writing letters to anybody who would listen. She wrote to the state’s prison reform commissioner, who was investigating why the prison system was bankrupting California. Dennis’s wife wrote that it sure seemed to be a waste of taxpayers’ money to put a man in a medium security prison because he failed to file a form. The situation was so startling to the commissioner that she drove several hours and appeared at Dennis’s prison, unannounced, to get to the bottom of that very strange situation. Her appearance spooked the warden and the other prison officials, and a week later, Dennis was transferred to a minimum security prison, where he almost pleasantly spent his last months in prison.

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#bizarre

    Dennis’s wife pierced the bureaucracy in other ways. When Dennis tried to play the Madison Avenue game, he moved to New Jersey, to be within striking distance of Manhattan, and when he was sent to prison, his family lived in New Jersey. The plan for the Ventura County goons was to force Dennis to serve his parole in Ventura County, where they would have certainly fabricated a parole violation so that Dennis could enjoy Mr. Deputy’s hospitality again. They did not know that Dennis’s wife had already received the approval for Dennis to serve his parole in New Jersey. Dennis slipped through Ventura County’s clutches. I bought his plane ticket out of California when he got out, had his plane stop in Columbus, and we met at the airport for a couple of hours. That is when he told me about his adventures in prison.

    Parole in New Jersey was a fairly perfunctory affair. Dennis had to get permission to leave the state from his parole officer, and he was already making waves soon after he got out. His parole officer just about told him that he did not need to keep asking to leave the state (he was doing speaking tours before long), but had to dot those I’s and cross those T’s, and almost considered Dennis a friend. Dennis was on parole for about two years, as I recall. When his parole was over, he then kicked it into high gear with his national tours of 1996. Suddenly and illegally, he was put back on parole. When he did his Philadelphia show, he was still on parole. His case set precedents all along the way.

    I can’t quite recall what inspired me to write that little vignette, but I could write a couple dozen more like that, about various stages of Dennis’s adventures.

    Best,

    Wade
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    Hi Tyler:

    Well, buddy, I am always ready for somebody like you to waltz up to Godzilla’s lair and get The Muppet Movie ending!

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=_pvAK...eature=related

    Maybe there is something that Dennis or Trombly or Greer or O’Leary or (fill in the blank with more than ten thousand names) failed to consider as they trod the FE path, that somebody new to the field can address and solve this Rubik’s Cube. But, I think that if a Rossi or a Bedini gets over the finish line, it will be because they were allowed to. If those routes work, I think it will because something happened at the Godzilla level, not because the aspirant was exceptionally talented, worthy or persistent. Dennis probably made them sweat more than anybody else ever has, but they did not have to sweat that much, not really. Godzilla has never had to consider the nuclear option yet.

    Seth’s The Nature of Personal Reality is easily one of the greatest books on reality ever written. It was one of my introductions to the mystical stuff, and I picked it up not long ago, and it has aged extremely well.

    I am far from certain that this attempt of mine will work, either, but it seems to be a harmless path (as long as I can keep newbies from trying to scale the ramparts, thinking that it must be easy).

    I have found that there is something about the magnitude of this issue where very few people can gain an appropriate perspective. The FE Revolution would dwarf every other event in human history:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#chart

    Nothing else comes close. But because we live in today’s world, and part of the issue is technological (and a pretty small part, really), you get tinkerers thinking that they can tinker that revolution into being. Many others see that Rubik’s Cube sitting there, and think that they can solve it, because it is only a Rubik’s Cube after all. So, there is an entire faction of newcomers who think that it must be easy, and some little trick that all the others failed to do, and they can do it because they are somehow cleverer, more virtuous, and so on. That perspective reminds me of what eighteen-year-old boys think when faced with battle:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/war.htm#business

    That is only one of the many pitfalls. Another trap is beginning to understand the magnitude of what FE means, and be seduced by delusions of grandeur:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/conun.htm#grandeur

    Again, I did not list those pitfalls as a theorist:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/conun.htm#pitfalls

    I have seen them all many times. If there is one thing that I did on my journey, it was keeping my eyes open, and I don’t forget much, either. Again, maybe a Dennis will waltz across the finish line one day, or maybe you will.

    I did not intend, originally, for my lamb’s path to be THE path, but more along the lines of providing support and helping to create an environment where FE can manifest. Whether an abundance choir can produce the harmonic effects to make FE happen is kind of an experiment that I thought that I would try, and I am going about it in a way that does not risk the choir. I don’t want to see any more shattered or prematurely-ended lives. That was the hard part for me, probably more than anything else.

    Tyler, it is an honor to be challenged by people like you, who keep rolling the ideas around in your head, who are not afraid to try something. Keep it up. Maybe there is something that you will come up with, a new approach that has not been tried before, or you will have what it takes to succeed, but believe me, some of the greatest people to have ever walked the Earth have been on this project for a long time.

    In the big picture, it can be considered appropriate for this to be so hard, as it would be the biggest event in human history.

    Gotta run off to work.

    More later,

    Wade
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    Hi Ilie:

    That was brilliant, as usual. In a way, FE is like the addiction issue. The most important step that the addict takes is the first one, where they admit that they have a problem. For the masses, the most important step will be the first one, when they admit that FE is possible. But in other ways the challenge is different. For the masses, they will admit that FE is possible when it is delivered to their homes. They are not going to help at this stage, being trapped in those early denial layers:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#chart

    it is up to that tiny fraction that believes it is possible before they see it. I try to not make it a faith exercise, either, but that is also part of the conundrum.

    Gotta run to work,

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    Tyler, one thing about reading The Nature of Personal Reality or Into a Timeless Realm

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post309184

    is that until you get some mystical experiences under your belt, it can all seem like philosophizing or fantasy. I have found that until people can get their own experiences in the “field,” so to speak, they usually stay on one side of an invisible line where those who sit there treat it all like some theory. Until you get some experience in those realms, it is really difficult to “seat” the information. It is that way in FE, too. The problem is that getting high level experience in the FE game, where you find out that not only is Godzilla real,

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#make

    but that FE is only one of a host of technologies that have been systematically put under wraps,

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/camelot.htm#underground

    is a life-risking path. FE is the Big One, but not the only one. Advanced materials, anti-gravity and maybe even time travel are in that magic bag that is currently off-limits for us. I try to steer interested parties toward gentler experiences that can nonetheless open eyes:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#developing

    That is all part of the conundrum. This stuff ain’t easy, but the path is worthwhile, I think.


    One thing that I think will help readers and would-be rampart-scalers is the issue of disruptive technology. The fact that somebody has a piece of superior technology in their hands does not mean that it is disruptive or will be. The history of “white” capitalism shows that many superior technologies went into the dustbin of history because they lost in the market battles to inferior technology. The high tech field is littered with examples of that, with Microsoft being a great example of a monopolist wiping out competitors by unfairly using their market muscle.

    When Dennis stumbled into the super heat pump field, the entire field was moribund and had never gotten off the ground:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#new

    It was Dennis’s combination of talent, moxie, and heart that made that heat pump a potentially disruptive technology. That was what made him so dangerous, not the technology. That we were going after FE in Ventura, with the team we had, and with Sparky Sweet down the road from us, looking on with great interest:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#sweet

    is what made us so dangerous, so they had to take us out, and they did. A few of us sacrificed our lives and lived to try another day, but that was unusual. Very few survive what Dennis and I went through. There are people in Ventura today who will never recover from what happened when they lowered the boom on us. The same goes for what happened in Seattle:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#run

    Air strikes have dogged Dennis wherever he went, and that is why I always caution newbie would-be rampart-scalers to slow up a little. Only somebody like a Dennis or Trombly can survive in that arena for long. I have watched many pretenders crumble in seconds, and even some people who were pretty tough did not last but a short time on that firing line. Sitting on the hot seat with Dennis in Ventura is an experience that I never want to have again.

    The Big Boys undoubtedly perform risk analysis like I have done here:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/risk.htm#risk

    but at a far more sophisticated level. I am not sure where “a stampede of lambs” would show up on that graph:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/risk.htm#graph

    but it is on there somewhere, and I hope it is pretty low, but I could be wrong.

    Best,

    Wade
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    Hi:

    I have been doing the 15-hour days lately, and it will be that way for the next two months. I am always reading for my energy essay, and I am starting on my Brian essay. But I have also been thinking about that analogy which I mentioned earlier, that can complement my FE Onion:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#chart

    It will take some time to refine it, but the gist is a mountain analogy, similar to those energy orders of magnitude of the various stages of civilization (some would question how “progressive” those stages are, and I am sympathetic to that notion):

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#chart

    There are other peaks to be found, but the mountain that I envision is The Big One, which looks down on all other peaks, and the vista is vast from its top. There are villages and towns on the mountain, and all of them are in the trees. They can’t see the top of the mountain, and many villagers and townspeople do not even realize that they are on a mountain. A few adventurous souls climbed above the tree line and confirmed the rumor that a mountaintop resided above the forest. Most regarded it as a silly legend, but some had climbed toward the top. Some glimpsed the top and saw that somebody was up there. Most who sought the top did it alone. Most were never heard from again, although a few eventually straggled into their villages and towns, telling a fantastic tale that the residents uniformly dismissed as some kind of altitude sickness. Many villages outlawed seeking that illusory mountaintop, with severe punishment meted out to youngsters who even harbored the notion. A few adventurers claimed that they were plucked off the mountainside by those on top, and were given a short tour of what was up there before they were sent back down. Rolling meadows and infinite views abounded up there. It appeared a lot like what their lore said was Heaven. Those in the forest dismissed such tales as fantasy, and forbidding anybody to seek it was to protect fools from throwing their lives away while seeking that mythical mountaintop.

    Over the generations, more adventurers sought the top. But they rarely joined their efforts, because nearly all wanted to claim the top for themselves, even though they all heard that somebody already resided on top. That lack of thoughtfulness usually doomed them to falling to lesser hazards along the way.

    Above the tree line, cliffs, rotten rock and predators abounded, and they all claimed many lives. Many became lost and died of exposure or starvation. A few times, the adventurers got a little smarter and formed teams, and some even had altruistic goals of finding that heavenly place, to blaze a way to the top for everybody, but most did it to claim the top for themselves, although they almost always mouthed selfless rhetoric. For the adventurers and expeditions that came closest to the top, lightning would appear, sometimes from an empty sky, and strike the aspirants. Some survived the experience, but most did not. When the few survivors told of the lightning, most of the other aspirants dismissed the reportage as a ruse, designed to discourage any competitors from reaching the top before those reporting the lightning did. Even when the survivors displayed their lightning scars, they were dismissed as burns from campfires that were not properly tended and other accidents, not due to lightning.

    Some realized that the lightning stories were likely true, especially when they had seen the sky light up above them and heard the thunder. But, in what became a depressingly common experience for the lightning survivors, most newbies denied that the lightning existed, or they wore tinfoil hats and other devices designed to protect them from the lightning. Those strategies were all laughable, as far as protection from lightning went, but the newbies were only rarely convinced of their peril, especially when they got Mountaintop Fever, dreaming of standing on top. Some even thought that they could defeat the lightning in battle. Some thought that they could sneak up when the skies were clear, but the lightning invariably hit, often when the climber least expected it.

    Once in a great while, a climber not only survived the lightning experience (anybody who encountered lightning had already survived the early challenges lower on the mountain) but learned from it. While the lightning maimed and killed many in the survivors’ parties, one aspirant in particular, called the Great Fool by his village, or just Fool for short, developed a theory from his long days of climbing the mountain, and observing the fates of his fellow climbers. Fool noticed that when lightning hit a sole climber, that usually was it. Few sole climbers survived the experience. When lightning hit a party, however, some of them survived, although they all got hit. The older and smaller climbers usually died from their wounds.

    One day, Fool developed a theory that if a hundred veteran climbers tried at the same time, and roped together with metal wire, the lightning might get diluted enough to where few if any of them would be hurt when it struck. As Fool eventually discovered, there were not a hundred veteran survivors, at least not a hundred willing to join their efforts and try Fool’s plan. So, Fool devised another theory. If ten thousand non-climbers roped together, with a guide or two, they might successfully ascend to the mountaintop, and if the lightning hit the ten thousand, the most that anybody might feel would be a slight tingle. Also, there was a justified suspicion that those legendary people atop the mountain somehow controlled the lightning. If they saw ten thousand marching up, they might realize the futility of using the lightning, and might not even unleash it, if they really controlled it. They might even welcome the marching ten thousand, as they eventually realized how lonely it was atop the mountain. They did not set out to be lightning-keepers, and few of them relished the task anymore. Some slowly realized that playing King of the Mountain was not nearly as fun as it initially seemed, and some were looking for a way to retire from that role.

    Fool knew that finding ten thousand who did not deny that the mountaintop existed, much less the dangers on the way to it, topped off by the lightning threat (or were overcome by fear of not only the prospect of the hazards, but most were deathly afraid of leaving the trees, as it is all they have known), was a tall task, maybe impossible. But Fool set out to visit the villages and towns in the forest, talking of his plan. For many years, he was dismissed as crazy, wicked, a huckster selling tickets for the expedition (although he never took anybody’s money), and other unflattering descriptions. Sometimes he was but a few steps ahead of the torches and pitchforks, but some listened to Fool. Fool is a long way from finding a hundred, much less ten thousand, but he still pursues his quixotic dream.

    Well that analogy can only go so far, but I hope I got the gist of it across for now. I have a busy weekend ahead of me.

    Best,

    Wade
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    In the most respectful way possible Wade:

    You are a Great Fool!

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    Ah Ernie, there are greater fools than I, but I will accept your "praise."

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    Hi Wade,

    Great analogy and personal biography in it's creation>>>>>>>>>>>>>thank God there are those such as you who are "foolish" enough to believe that anything is possible!!, including FE and all it's immense wonders that the world at large has yet to realize.
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    Hi Sandy:

    Yes, fools have their uses.

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