Has white man colonised planet Earth?

[doodah]

Posted by Lord Sidious (here)
I don't disagree with what you say, it is the blanket of ALL of them as rattlesnakes.
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A lot of whites went to america and other nations as convicts with little choice, they are not out to exploit anyone.
And as for the so called powers, they aren't white, jewish or anything else, they are just evil, greedy scumbags who have allegiance to others of their ilk while it suits them.

I don't blanket ALL of ANY people. Yes, many people were sent to America to get rid of them, as prisoners and other "undesirables," but we're talking about the Controllers here, generally, in this thread.

The Evil Machine that keeps us in slavery was brutally transplanted to the North American continent. Whether that originated in European law and culture exclusively, I don't know. For sure, "law" and the whole legal system in America (and probably every place the British Empire ruled - still rules) serves the corporations in a very blatant way. What part the Zionists have in this I don't know although there are those who say they're behind the whole thing, including the British Empire, and they may represent the most ancient roots of it all.

The Evil Machine has now been "globalized" at breakneck speed by the multinational corporations and their armies but there are still cultures resisting the process of assimilation (The BORG!).

[doodah]

After all the discussion about who the Controllers may be and what they may be up to, below I've excerpted quotes from the 77-page pdf posted by David Wilcock on Divinecosmos.com along with other documentation of ET contacts in the 1950s. These channeled messages seem to lay the groundwork for much of what we read today: Love and Light is the only way out of the mess we're in.

I believe that the Creator or Father or Radiant One referred to here is the Source, the Creator of All That Is, not Aryans, Enki or Enlil or other humanoid ETs who have visited this planet and genetically manipulated humankind. These messages say again, as Bob Dean has quoted many times: "Know ye not that ye are Gods?"

From David Wilcock, Divinecosmos.com
Extraterrestrial Human Contacts in the 1950s:
Messages for Today ... and Tomorrow

Sept. 29, 1958
[...] In the beginning man was created with free will. Throughout ages of erroneous thinking he has brought himself to this point of destruction. He still has a choice. He can eliminate himself from this planet or turn to the Creator and make this planet truly a heaven. [...]

Oct. 5, 1958
[...] Everything in the Universe was created in the beginning in perfection. [...] Man changed that perfection through his own thinking. Man has created so-called evil in his own mind. Once he has cleared his mind of his own creations, the true Creation will reveal itself in all its glory, perfection, and harmony. Perfection and Harmony -- two words that are the Key to man's true heaven. [...]

Oct. 6, 1958
[...] A new dawn of understanding is coming to your planet. Man must be prepared for this new understanding, as it employs new concepts and ideas. The people of Earth have lingered long under their false illusions. The time has come to step forth in new and greater glory. People of Earth, learn the wishes of your Creator. Live the way you were intended to live. Peace, Harmony, Perfection. When you do this the beauty of the whole Creation will be revealed.

Oct. 8, 1958
[...] Many strange and wonderful things will come about to start your people thinking. Through their thinking is the only way the people can prepare themselves for this golden dawn of new understanding.

Certain things will disappear when this new age comes about. Greed, money, sickness, lust and hate will all come to pass [away]. Many things we know will not be acceptable in this new age. These things will be replaced by Love. Love -- the greatest force in creation. Our many universes were created out of the Love of the Creator. Love is the only ruling force in these vast universes. When this Love is lost we become unbalanced. If we cannot balance ourselves the job is taken over by the Creator in a wise and just manner. There is still time for the people of Earth to balance themselves [...]

Oct. 11, 1958
[...] The rulers of that day, seeing that the people were following Jesus, decided that if this continued they would lose their control of the people. This they did not wish to happen. So they came to the conclusion he must be destroyed. This you know they did. His teachings were destroyed or changed so that they could do the people very little good. Thus the rulers have kept power over this planet till this day. They knew that once man realized his true kinship with the Creator he could be ruled by no one but the Creator. [...] Man as created is free, master of all the universe, to be ruled by none save the master of us all, our Creator [...]

Oct. 16, 1958
[...] Man in his present state on your planet must change in order to survive. Many things will take place on this is planet, therefore man will have to change with the planet. This solar system is moving into an area of space where the vibrations are much higher. This will cause changes in your planet's features. It will also cause changes in your peoples. The vibrations on the planet will become higher, therefore man will have to raise his vibrations in order to exist on your planet. These vibrations can only be raised by the peoples' thinking -- thinking better thoughts of everything in the creation, more spiritual thinking, thoughts that will lift the people of Earth out of the darkness and mud they have lived in for so long. The principle of free will still exists. Man may change and live on this planet in a true father's kingdom, or he may not, and destroy himself and be reincarnated back in a third density materialistic world where he would continue to try to learn his lessons. [...]

Oct 26, 1958
[...] This love that created all the universes created you also. All love comes from the Creator. The Creator created all things with this love. As you are one of the whole creation, you are one with the father. [...] All are one with the father.

Oct. 31, 1958
[...] Live in love as it was intended, not as a possessive attitude you have on your planet. Man is responsible for this restriction on your planet, not the Creator. The Creator created everything in love and harmony, man has changed this otherwise [...]

Nov. 1, 1958
[...] the Creator created everything perfect and perfect it has remained. Only man has brought changes by his thinking otherwise. Throughout ages of wrong thinking he has created evil so strong he cannot see the true Creation [...]

Monday, Dec. 8, 1958
(by Hatton)
Man is the Father's most perfect creation. Yet on your planet he lives in darkness and a life of drudgery. Man should live in love, peace and harmony as was intended in the beginning of creation. Wrong thinking has brought him to this present state of destruction. This has happened before on this planet, and man had to start at the bottom again. This condition will not be on your planet, after it is straightened out this time. [emphasis mine] This planet and solar system are moving into a new area of vibrations, in which conditions as they are now on this planet will not survive. That is why the peoples of this planet must learn the truth concerning the Father's creation. Love, peace and harmony are all that will exist in the Father's true creation. Many will not believe our story but if they do not they are not punished by the Father. They are simply removed to another planet, in a just manner by the Father, where they will try to learn their lessons of love, peace and harmony all over again. [...]

Dec. 8, 1958
[...] regardless of race, creed or color all peoples are the sons and daughters of the most Radiant One. Not just a chosen few. This also means that everything in the creation is from the Father. If your peoples would only realize that this is so, what a change would take place on your planet. Many, many planets know this and living the way of creation.

Love, Peace and Harmony is what was created. Why have hate, wars and discord through your planet? Some of the peoples think they are better than others, in reality they are not; all are the same children of the Father. Others try to rule by force; this should not be. Free will was created; why should the wrong thinking of a few be forced upon many?

All of these things are making an unbalanced condition on and around your planet. At times the Father has to rebalance some of the planets and solar systems. That is what is about to take place on your planet. Conditions on your planet can cause unbalance in the whole solar system, so it must be balanced back into the harmony of the creation.

Many, many will not be able to see the truth as we are presenting it, others will see the truth of love and light from the Father and reap the many blessings of the Father. This will truly be a heavenly planet to exist upon. This planet Earth is one of the most beautiful planets in the universes. [...] "Why oh why people of Earth can't you realize the love of the Father and dwell within his kingdom of love, peace, and harmony?"

Dec. 10, 1958
[...] Many of your peoples have a true understanding of love, others do not even know the meaning of the word. Love is expressed in many ways, in one’s thoughts, physical love in the contact of two people, in one’s deeds to other people, but the real meaning of love is to be able to look upon your fellow man and see the Creator regardless of how this person is expressing himself. This is true love. This is the love you must gain to enter the kingdom of heaven, as is stated in a similar manner in your Holy Works. This is the love that created all creation in love and beauty. Yes there is beauty throughout all creation. Most of your peoples lack the ability to see it. Beauty is everywhere because everything was created from the love of the Father. If there had not been love before the beginning of creation there would be no creation. [...] Practice this love, see everything and everyone as the Creator and you will truly find your heaven without leaving the planet Earth.

Dec. 11, 1958
[...] Love one another, love everything in the creation, that is the mission the people of Earth must fulfill before they leave the confinement of this planet. [...] No one else can do this for you. You must do this for yourself.

Dec. 17, 1958
[...] Your peoples have had this knowledge of love and light available for centuries but for one reason or another they have chosen to ignore it. There are enough of the teachings of the man called Jesus for each and every one to know what is required.

People of Earth, do you wish to live in poverty, illness, drudgery, and ignorance all your lives? The Father has a much better way of life available for all of you, if you will make the effort to gain it. Your Holy Works state: "The Lord helps those who help themselves." Put forth the effort, people of Earth, and gain your rightful place in the Father's Kingdom.

Man is the Father's most perfect creation. Should he dwell in darkness for so long a period because of hate, ignorance of the Father's plan for them, and love of material things?

Dec. 24, 1958
This man Jesus taught brotherly love of one another and love of the Father. Through his understanding of the Father and his creation, he was able to demonstrate miracles, as you call them. These were not miracles but normal, natural things that man can do when he realizes his kinship with the Father, and expresses his love of the Father. This was the real reason of the teachings of Jesus. To show man what he could be if he lived in brotherly love, peace and harmony with his fellow man.

The deeds and thoughts of this man Jesus were pure and simple. That is what it takes - simple living, pure deeds and thoughts of the Father and your fellow man.

[...] We do not mean any disrespect to this person when we refer to him as the man Jesus. He is not the only son of God, as believed by your peoples. All mankind is the sons and daughters of the Father, not just one. We respect and love this man Jesus because he, out of many, was able to realize and demonstrate his true relationship with the Father, as all peoples of this planet are capable of doing if they would but learn the truth and rid themselves of Hate and Fear they now possess -- hate of one another, and fear of punishment from the Father, as taught by most of your religions.

There is nothing difficult. Live the normal, natural way of love, as you were created by the Father. [...] Why must there be anything else?

Dec. 25, 1958
[...] A great number of your religious leaders know of this way of life of the Father but they dare not teach it for fear of losing their hold on the masses of the people they have ruled for so many years. Once man knows the truth, he has no further need of religious organizations. This the churches know. That is why the truth has been kept from the people of Earth for so many centuries.

The man called Jesus was born a simple man like the rest of your peoples but he realized his kinship with the Father and was able to do the things that the Father meant for all his children. Your teacher Jesus said, "These things I do ye can do also and more." Do you the people of Earth believe that your brother Jesus lied to you? No I think not. It is just that you have not been taught the real love and understanding of the Father.

Your Brother Jesus said Love one another, love the Father. Do this, our brothers and sisters of Earth so that we may join hands across endless space and live together as we once did long ago.

Jan. 18, 1959
(by Latue)
[...] You are in the Kingdom of the Father’s mansions now. Wake up my children and realize you are in the Kingdom of God, as you say, now, this very moment. Live in love, the love that is your creation.

Remember these words, I am always with you. You will never be closer to the Father. All you have to do is realize this. You and the Father are one. You are a perfect part of the perfect creation, created by a perfect Father who is all love, all wisdom of the universe.

Jan 19, 1959
(by Latue)
[...] You are the Creator of all you survey. Would it not be better to create love, peace and harmony? This is the path of the Father. Anything else is the path of man.

Jan 10, 1959
(by Hatton)
[...] Evil does not exist. It was not created in the beginning by the Father. It has been created in the mind of man, and can only be gotten rid of by man, through a change in his thinking.

The evil of man's mind has run wild on this planet for a long, long time. This will not be possible in the near future. Evil will not be able to survive in the new age coming to this planet. Those who cannot accept good and love over evil will have to go to another schoolroom. This schoolroom will be for higher students of life in the coming new age.

Prepare yourselves people of Earth. Change your thinking to love, peace and harmony so that you may live with your brothers and sisters as was intended. It is not too late people of Earth. The Father is with you always. Just realize this and live in love, love of the Father and love of one another.

Feb. 3, 1959
(by Hatton)
[...] It is time O people of Earth to change. Have you not grown tired of strife, hate, wars, poverty, sickness, and a host of other things that are not of the Father? The Father created only good and perfection. You the people of Earth are a part of that good and perfection. How long, O how long will this good and perfection be hidden by man's thinking otherwise? Soon, we hope the people of Earth will see the light of the Father that once reigned on this planet.

Message for a New Group
[...] Man of Earth how little you know of your real self. How little you know. You have no idea of the powers that are locked within you. [...] In your seeking, seek also the wisdom that is needed to bring forth and use these powers that you have. Wisdom, self control, emotional control, elimination of self and ego -- all these things are necessary and above all learn to love and understand one another.

Jan 5, 1963
(by Clytron)
[...] For the lesser god called Man, evolving towards a greater godhood, has but a few steps to climb in his evolutionary ladder towards that god-consciousness which is in truth his own, which was EVER his own if he would but reach out and grasp it and acknowledge himself. Hath not the One who came and taught ye of Love said unto you, "Know ye not that ye are Gods?" And know ye not that ye ARE gods. For in thine own essence thou art the quintessence of godhood... If thou are created of Him, then must thou not also have within thee that spark which is of divinity, the part of thee which is of the Creator?

[...] Have ye not heard that the Earth planet is a school for godhood and know ye not that this is Truth, strange as it may seem to thee who look at the Earth world and note its many imperfections? It is, nonetheless, a school for gods.

[...] I speak from my journeyings in Space, from my observings of other planets and other worlds, and I would say indeed, that small in number but great in quality shall be the harvest of this day's reapings when this day dawneth and the harvest is gathered and the change comes upon this planet called Earth, this globe spinning so greenly in its orb.

[...] And the Kingdoms which ye call the Devic, the Nature Kingdoms, the animal Kingdoms and the mineral upon thy planet, shall also make a step upward in their own conscious unfoldment at the time which comes fast upon thy planet now. [...] So shall these things take place upon thy planet which were pre-ordained since the beginnings of time. And the cycle shall end and a new one go forward and a new day shall dawn and in that day shall the children of Men become as the sons and daughters of Light, conscious of their godhood and their oneness with ALL that exists, with ALL that IS.

May 26, 1964
[...] You are already aware of the fact that at this period of time there is a tremendous stirring up [...] of old and rigid patterns upon the surface of the Earth planet. Earthman stands at the end of an era, at the end of an age which has been spoken of in many of your Holy Works throughout your planet, not only those known in the Christian world or the Western world but also known to the Eastern sages, as the ends of certain periods of time.

[...] That which has been of tremendous age, both in man's ideas or concepts and that which has been of rigid valuation, must inevitably break asunder at this period, for if this were not so, Man would continue in this pattern of rigidity and would remain as the chick within the egg, confined within a small hard shall of his own limitation; and truly [...] Man would die or would die out as a conscious entity upon this planet. This will not take place, but in order that it will not take place, a shattering must occur of that which is outworn in order that Man's consciousness may spiral ever upwards unto the new octave of expressed values.

[...] for the entry of planet Earth into the Solar System in the sense of rejoining the Confederation of Planets, that Earth may once more become a member of the Saturn Tribunal and may send delegates to this Saturn Tribunal which as you know is the head of governments of the Solar System.

[...] Earth has been the lagging one in this system. Civilizations have risen and have fallen upon this planet and always when Earth man has reached a certain period of scientific development he has misused this and perverted the Laws governing things Cosmic unto his own small destructive tendencies. This must stop and at this period of time so great have been the destructive tendencies or motivations brought into being upon this planet that it is inevitable that a certain outworking manifests in that which we prefer to call a cleansing of the planet Earth.

[...] Therefore, CHANGE will come to the planet Earth, change which may be viewed only as a cleansing and freeing from the rigidity and from the limited patterns. Change will be brought about bringing in the Golden Age and the ever-ascending spiral of consciousness unto the god-self, unto the reunion of Man with his brothers in Space, and to a greater understanding within him of his part in the creation of the All-Knowing One.

[Calz]

Thanks doodah,

I watched the vids but have not had time to go through the material on the pdf.


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Some here may be interested in listening to the Jonathan Gray c2c recordings as brought out in this thread. Interesting rebuttal (of sorts) to Sitchin material regarding the Sumerian timeframe:


https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...-Jonathan-Gray

[doodah]

Hi Cal,

The Jonathan Gray material sounds interesting. Of course, other Sumerian scholars have said all along that Sitchin's "translations" were not accurate. It's interesting that that idea is gaining weight.

It's also interesting that right now there's quite a number of threads on Avalon with channeled messages encouraging the Love and Light approach to living. That message cannot be repeated too many times.

[Calz]

Posted by doodah (here)
Hi Cal,

The Jonathan Gray material sounds interesting. Of course, other Sumerian scholars have said all along that Sitchin's "translations" were not accurate. It's interesting that that idea is gaining weight.

It's also interesting that right now there's quite a number of threads on Avalon with channeled messages encouraging the Love and Light approach to living. That message cannot be repeated too many times.

Listening right now. Fascinating.

Six one hour audios with Jonathan Gray

Ancient & Suppressed Discoveries with Jonathan Gray

Explorer and archaeologist Jonathan Gray discussed discoveries that demonstrate advanced ancient technology. Because such artifacts don't match current academic beliefs they are often suppressed, with evidence destroyed or hidden, he said, citing the Smithsonian Institution, and countries such as Peru, America, Israel, New Zealand, France, and Australia as being involved in covering-up evidence.

Some of the suppressed ancient discoveries he highlighted:

* A kind of glassware in Egypt and Peru that can be bent like plastic.

* Screen projectors used in Egyptian temples, with movement and sound simulation.

* Artifacts and buildings left on the moon-- Chinese records speak of trips to the moon.

* The 'Black Knight' satellite-- ancient races talked about putting up satellites.

* An ancient underground complex discovered in Southern California that included star charts on aluminum sheets.

* Micro-techology found in Russia, with some objects as small as 1/1000th of an inch.

* Maps of the ancient world that showed Antarctica as free of ice and populated.

* The Egyptian pyramids (as well as the structure at Baalbek) were built through a anti-gravity technology using sound waves to lift heavy objects.

* Underground tunnels that go for hundreds of miles appear to be cut with a laser beam.

* Ancient cave paintings depict people wearing modern clothes.

Gray also spoke about his challenge to the work of Zecharia Sitchin, who contends that an ET race, the Annunaki, visited Earth from the planet Nibiru. Sitchin's translations of Sumerian cuneiform does not match the accepted dictionary meanings, he commented.

Long ago and far away ... back toward the start of this thread ... was mention of the Celtic civizilation.

In the Gray recording # 6 about 3 minutes in talking about a dig in New Zealand where many 8-9 foot skeletons have been recovered can be traced to the Celts. New Zealand government produced documents sealing this information from the public for 75 years under the guise of "national security".

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12 minutes into same # 6 he suggests the Arc of the Covenant ***may*** have been found under Jerusalem ... announced for one day on the news then suppressed (of course).

He touches briefly again on the Celts at about the 30 minutes mark into that same # 6.


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Finished with both interviews. Enjoyed those.

Some of the stuff on his site doesn't resonate however.

Interesting listen from the archaeology aspect.

[doodah]

Cool stuff. Edgar Cayce said long ago that sound technology was used in building the ancient megalithic structures, which is why we can't figure out how they did it because we don't have that technology any more. David Wilcock has reported about monks in Tibet(?) raising giant stones to the top of a cliff using sound generated by musical instruments, drums, and chanting.

It begins to look like we're recycling the same tech, especially since there's such a brutal grabbing for ancient artifacts and such. About that stone in a tomb(?) in Egypt showing modern-day helicopters and such... I'm not real sure I believe that one. All the lines in the drawings are a little too neat and clean, not like they've been there several thousand years. And how come nobody ever noticed that drawing until relatively recently? [edit to add] I'd guess it's because it wasn't there until relatively recently.

And why do we have to be protected from giant skeletons? Except somebody posted on here that there are no such people as the Celts... I'll have to look into that.

[Calz]

Posted by doodah (here)
And why do we have to be protected from giant skeletons? Except somebody posted on here that there are no such people as the Celts... I'll have to look into that.

Don't remember anyone suggesting the Celts did *not* exist ... but clearly the governments of the world have been doing all they can to suppress our true history.

The point he was making regarding the Celts is they had migrated all the way to New Zealand (or at least some of them).

[doodah]

Posted by Calz_Avaretard (here)

Posted by doodah (here)
And why do we have to be protected from giant skeletons? Except somebody posted on here that there are no such people as the Celts... I'll have to look into that.

Don't remember anyone suggesting the Celts did *not* exist ... but clearly the governments of the world have been doing all they can to suppress our true history.

The point he was making regarding the Celts is they had migrated all the way to New Zealand (or at least some of them).

Right, that the Celts migrated. And by the skeleton size, they would have been from the time when Giants Walked the Earth, therefore hybrids of the Aryan/Anunnaki/Archons, right? Klaus Dona had lots of information about giant skeletons in South America and was supposedly trying to put together an expedition to document some of them.

The post on here about the Celts was by someone named Cymry or something like that. I can't seem to ever turn up much when I do a search, so I couldn't find exactly what I was remembering (or mis-remembering). The post had to do with the people of Wales.

[doodah]

Posted by Calz_Avaretard (here)
12 minutes into same # 6 he suggests the Arc of the Covenant ***may*** have been found under Jerusalem ... announced for one day on the news then suppressed (of course).

Is the Ark of the Covenant supposed to have been some kind of communication device for talking with Yahweh?

I heard a woman on C2C [can't recall name] talking about how the New Testament fails to emphasize how people "had to go to the Temple to speak with God." This almost sounds like some kind of direct communication, not prayer.

[edit to add]: The "Cymry" I mentioned appeared in the "A Look Beneath the Holocaust Propaganda" thread which was referenced earlier in this thread. Since I read everything all at one go, I got the two mixed up. Here's the reference, which raises some interesting questions about suppressed history that would require yet more research to understand correctly:

Bryn ap Gwilym
What is ironic is the Jews were not the Israelites but only about 19 small tribes in the far south. The Israelites were the Omrides, today's Cymry (Welsh). ... The holocaust is nothing more than Zion propaganda. along with Jewish so called history resulting in covering up an ancient royal bloodline & replacing it with the frauds we know today.
The Cymry are still fighting the war machine on a daily base now while the rest of the world sleeps in its brainwashed English indoctrinated slumber.
The gypsies are also of Cymry descent.

29th January 2011 17:01
Fred259
Quote:
I was just wondering if when you say today's Cymry, do you really mean "Celts"?

29th January 2011 18:10
Bryn ap Gwilym
No I don't mean Celts. In essence there is no such people as the Celts, for this was yet another 17th century English invention to suppress & confuse the masses. It also doubled up for intertwining false bloodlines into the Cymry history thus enabling them to falsely claim a throne, but these false monarchs still need the Jacobs pillow / stone of Skone (scone). The Cymry has this title by birth right.

War machine:
We are still fighting for our language to have equal rights for the Zionists / English are trying their hardest to stamp it out. S4c is the only Cymraeg language channel on the planet, but Westminster is in the process of closing it down.

Cymraeg, Coelbren & hieroglyphics are all the same & hold the very key of history. If the masses start to study the language then the game is up for the frauds. (Look up Alan Wilson & Baram Blackette - MOSES IN THE HIEROGLYPHS) http://www.kingarthurslegacy.com/bookmoses.html Suppressed historians.

Our history is refused in schools including Uni. While English brainwashing make-believe is forced on the world. [...]

The only language that isn't allowed to be spoken in the House of Commons is Cymraeg, while the likes of German & Yiddish is used. Political red tape along with their law lords, shills, trolls etc are doing their damned hardest to erase the Cymry once & for all. The list is endless.

[...] How many Americans know that Cymraeg is on the [Washington] monument? Two years ago scaffolding was erected for Bush wanted it removed. He failed. The same time he ordered the plaque of Prince Madoc to be taken down & destroyed. It was taken down, but a higher power ordered it to be put back up.

29th January 2011 18:42
Lettherebelight
Bryn ap Gwilym,
You have raised a most interesting point here on this thread regarding persecuted people. The people of Cymry, who originally inhabited a much larger geographical area, have been hounded and culturally suppressed for hundreds of years.

It is little known fact that their culture was extremely advanced, extremely ancient and shared many similarities to ancient Vedic culture. There are many Welsh words today that are uncannily similar to their Sanskrit counterpart.

The question is why do dark forces want to obliterate the mystic knowledge of Cymry? Your references to the Washington monument, etc. are most intriguing.

[Calz]

Anybody familiar with or lend credibility to Laurence Gardner's research on the Anunnaki?

I found a Sumerian Family Tree that looks interesting but it won't let me copy the text nor capture an image.

The Grand Assembly of the Anunnaki


Here is the link to the document:

http://www.halexandria.org/dward186.htm


Here is the link to Gardner's site:

http://graal.co.uk/

[Lord Sidious]

[oceanz]

If Enki created humans, is this why a large percentage of the human body is made of water because Enki is the God of water?

[Anno]

Posted by oceanz (here)
If Enki created humans, is this why a large percentage of the human body is made of water because Enki is the God of water?

Maybe it refers to the idea that the spirit Enki works their influence through Water, either literally or symbolicly? We are pretty much ruled by our emotions and they are Water.

To say anyone created humans is a bit of a stretch of the truth I think. From what I'm reading, Human refers to the physical form that was created to caputre a specific type of 'Spirit'.

Conversations like this can so easily be distracted by 'racism' when people identify with their body. I like to remind myself that when you say Enki created Humans, it's like saying Ford created the Mustang.

I do think that the White races came from 'out there' and to people like the Black Power movement that can be used to back up their "white man is the devil" nonesense. The fact is, I am 'in' a white body, I am not 'a' white body.

[Calz]

Anno:

The fact is, I am 'in' a white body, I am not 'a' white body.

Or as David Icke puts it "We are Infinite Consciousness having a human experience".

[Mark]

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Posted by oceanz (here)
I do think that the White races came from 'out there' and to people like the Black Power movement that can be used to back up their "white man is the devil" nonesense. The fact is, I am 'in' a white body, I am not 'a' white body.

We are all in bodies, we are not these bodies. Your comment is therefore meaningless in the context you place it, as those "black nationalists" are equal to you in essence, being souls on a human journey as well, and therefore subject to the same worldly conundrums as everyone else. Their experiences are directly related to the immediate experience of negative externalities, which you might have difficulty comprehending, not having to go through them yourself. You "are" your white body just as much as they are their black bodies, and you "are" connected to the history of your white body just as they are connected to the history of their black bodies. Denigrating the perspective they put forth which is based upon over 400 years of negative experience with "Caucasians" could be countered by a measured recounting of relevant factoids pertaining to that history, but in this venue such would probably be worse than pointless.

Trying to get around this reality by utilizing semantics is therfore useless as the ramifications of our incarnations and responsibilities cannot be avoided no matter how much we would like to, on an individual as well as a group level. An interesting question pertaining to this topic is the question of reincarnation, and how souls reincarnate in kin-groups and in the same general ethnicities. In Africa, for instance, it is commonly believed in some tribal groups that reincarnation generally occurs within the same family ... Ancestors, are always with us ... our parents, grandparents all come back to us through us, which is why, for Africans and African-descended folk, family is generally so important ...

Just took about 6 hours to read this entire thread, so I'm not coming into it just having read the last few msgs. What an interesting and revealing thread. I also followed many of the links, looked at and tabbed a lot of the videos. Much of this information I'd read before, but some of it was new. I'm always glad to learn more about the hidden history of this planet, as well as the relation of humanity as a family to those extra-terrestrials who have made there way here and done what they've done to us in the name of service-to-self at the interpersonal level, but so obviously service-to-others at the higher density level of ultimate causation. Seems to me that they've created quite the conundrum for themselves in creating a race of beings who have spiritual capabilities that they themselves can only yearn for.

I like to find the things in common across many threads and synthesize them. By so doing it is possible to come up with common themes that more often than not comprise the simple truth of the matter beyond which all else is fluff and subject to falsification. The themes running through this thread and general conclusions derived therefrom seem to coalesce around the following:

1) what we now consider to be the white race is the remnant of an alien invasion that occurred in relatively recent times (4-6,000 years).

2) the genetics of this alien race - through the expansion of Europeans outwards into the rest of the world through colonization/imperialism/globalism - have been mixed with the genetics of the other races on this planet, who are hybrids of earlier alien/hominid genetic experiments.

3) the white race is the one which is most closely aligned with relatively recent extra-terrestrial origins and have something to do with Reptilians/Anunnaki and Pleidians who may or may not be one and the same.

4) the other races on the planet are more closely connected to the hominids and alien species - presumably some form of Reptilian/Anunnaki and/or Maldekian/Grey/Zeta - that predate the arrival upon the planet of the most recent ancestors of the white race.

5) Being more recently connected to certain factions of alien origin which may or may not be now on the ascendancy, the "white race" is now the group being utilized by these extraterrestrials to complete their designs, whatever they may be, upon this planet and its other inhabitants.

Obviously, as these are generalizations regarding the thread and not inclusive of every single theory that has been brought to bear, I've left out some specifics that may conflict with the above. This was done based upon my own discernment and the knowledge I bring from my own research and experiences. The quote that I left above relates to a perspective not represented here, probably purposefully, and coming generally from the side of the spectrum referenced by the poster. My questions are these, for any who wish to respond:

1) What of the mitochondrial eve (out-of-Africa) theory? Michael Cremo does an excellent job in "Human Devolution" of speaking to the statistical shortcomings of the original formulation of the theory, but his book does little to explain the continuing research coming not only from American, but European and Asian biologists and genetic researchers that find the oldest basal clades (genetic root structures) originating in Africa. Lord Sidious, I recall your statement that it is the primate aspect that is being tracked here, corresponding to your theory that different ET groups created hominids. Any other takers?

2) If, as has been shown here through an excellent exploration of the Nazi aspect, there is a "breakaway civilization" comprised of members of the 3rd Reich and their descendants, are they the ones who are currently attempting to flee the Earth so as to escape possible impending doom? If so, are they doing so with their Aryan masters? If that is the case, then why the continuing stories revolving around genetic tests, hybrid creation and abductions, not only in Europe and the Americas, but also in Africa, as evidenced by the testimony of Credo Mutwah and many others?

3) What are the spiritual implications o all of this? The obvious service-to-self/evil ramifications of this constellation of potential "facts" cannot be overlooked. Were the Aryans supposed to interfere with those who were here before them, if that is even true? Were the Anunnaki supposed to? The Greys? Other extraterrestrial races? Does all of this contribute to the greater evolution of the human family and, if so, does this negate all of the negative occurrences that have been associated with this ongoing experiment in consciousness?

Obviously it is a gigantic topic. I appreciate each and every one of the posters and contributors to this thread, thank you all so much for the time, energy and effort that you put into researching and elucidating these difficult and contentious topics. They must be discussed, freely and openly if we are ever, as a human family, to truly know who we are and what exactly has been done to us to place us in this predicament that we are currently in.

[oceanz]

[QUOTE=Rahkyt;309889][QUOTE=Anno;276057]

Posted by oceanz (here)
I do think that the White races came from 'out there' and to people like the Black Power movement that can be used to back up their "white man is the devil" nonesense. The fact is, I am 'in' a white body, I am not 'a' white body.

We are all in bodies, we are not these bodies. Your comment is therefore meaningless in the context you place itQUOTE]

I think you'll find it was Anno's quote and not mine

[Anno]

Posted by Rahkyt (here)

Posted by oceanz (here)
I do think that the White races came from 'out there' and to people like the Black Power movement that can be used to back up their "white man is the devil" nonesense. The fact is, I am 'in' a white body, I am not 'a' white body.

We are all in bodies, we are not these bodies. Your comment is therefore meaningless in the context you place it

Posted by oceanz (here)
I think you'll find it was Anno's quote and not mine

We can pretend you said it if you want. I'm not really in the mood today. To be honest, it's the kind of thing I'd ignore anyway. I think we all know in the real world, race is a very very real issue to most people and many are killed and abused every day because of it. On the internet it's ok to be all love and light but the next time someone is trying to mug or kill you for your race, try it out on them and see what happens.

Meanwhile, back on topic: So I see the Nazi's may have had the Atom Bomb and used it as a big carrot to set up Paperclip/Nasa etc and also as a sneaky cover for keeping Vortex Energy and UFOS.

[Davidallany]

I'm not really in the mood today

Why not Anno?

[Mad Hatter]

Mad Hatter dons his contrarian cap for a slightly OT excursion...

The term “race” has many definitions, ranging from a family unit to a species, but in common and medical usage, defining “race” has meant separating Homo sapiens into three to six groups.This division of Homo sapiens into race taxons started in the 18th century, when the sciences of genetics and evolutionary biology were not yet invented. These disciplines have since shown that human race taxonomy has no scientific basis. Race categories are social constructs, that is, concepts created from prevailing social perceptions without scientific evidence. Despite modern proof that race is arbitrary biological fiction, racial taxons are still used widely in medical teaching, practice, and research. Human diversity is inconsistently taught in medical schools and erratically presented in medical texts. Race taxons have been “medicalized”; that is, race groupings have been legitimized by their use in medical literature and practice as acceptable descriptive labels that are integral to the proper diagnosis and treatment of disease in humans. Assumptions about disease that are made because a race has been assigned can result in important negative consequences for individual patients and inaccurate genetic inferences for populations.
In contrast, ethnicity is a concept that incorporates social, religious, linguistic, dietary, and other variables to identify individual persons and populations.Ethnicity may be able to impart clinical clues to diagnosis if the clinician taking the history is well informed and open minded. Ethnic boundaries are dynamic and imprecise, and a strict methodical approach to ethnicity that is equal to the approach required for the study of other variables is necessary if the concept of ethnicity is to be clinically useful.

source http://www.annals.org/content/125/8/675.short

NB My bold.

So what ethnic grouping would one put Enlil, Enki and co...

PS thanks for the great thread all !!

[Davidallany]

So what ethnic grouping would one put Enlil, Enki and co

They are Anunakians.

Scientists have recently found that Neanderthals had bigger brains than original humans who lived in Africa, moreover, they found at least 4% of Neanderthal DNA in all human groups except indigenous Africans.
They are theorizing that some original humans from Africa migrated north and intermingled with Neanderthals who had big frame, white skin and blond hair, thus producing today's people in asia and Europe.

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/n...bred-dna-gene/