David Icke 2011

[selinam]

Posted by Darla Ken Jensen Pearce (here)
After sixty years of muck raking, it's been stirred up enough. If you can't see some real results after this long quest ~ what makes you think another sixty years of more book tours and speaking engagements will help?

Time to retire and let folks sort this whole mess out for themselves. He's put out enough videos to last people ten lifetimes if placed end to end and it's not enough? I guess some of us are never satisfied and there is a lot of that going around.

When you rake up too much BS, there comes a huge cloud of toxic fog that envelopes all it touches and as a result no one can see their hand in front of their faces anymore on either side. My vote goes to his ex-wife, although the timing might be right for him being an illegitimate child of Queen Elizabeth, she's been accused of everything but this travesty.....so it could be timely, however, it's his ex-wife that is probably what truly did him in and sapped his strength and ability to slander alligators, crocks, and reptiles. At least the ones who do NOT walk on two legs.

And what's up with 15 hours chained to a desk writing yet ANOTHER book? A gun to his head, no doubt? This is self-torture at it's finest. I love you, Tony but it must be teatime by now. Wanna cuppa? Ta ta..for now. I've got litter boxes to empty...and they call him David Icke ; ) xoxox

David Icke is one of the main reasons I have woken up to what's going on in this world. I have never seen any previous solicitation and he only asks if you are able to donate - there is no gun at my head! I think he has done more than most to put the information there for us to see in full view. I'm tired of people putting others down...

[jackovesk]

The Wealth of the Rothschilds could feed,cloth and shelter every human being on this earth.

Bloody murdering genetic hybrids...I give you the Rothschilds.

http://www.davidicke.com/

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=J1WqQi1bEtg

[Cidersomerset]

Hi All ...Don't worry about David he is a man on a mission and as such adversity is part and parcel of the game, and as a ex soccer pro and TV presenter and politition he knows the score more than any of us here.....He is not a academic, though probably knows more what is going on in the world than the vast majority of so called 'academics'. He has said from day one of his 'awakening' that he is on a journey and those who want to go with him are welcome to follow his work and research it themselves.As he says all the time he is a 'dot connector' and journalist.He has had many critics in the past and as he has been exposing the 'Biggest Secrets' of the world will get many more. His biggest achievement to date imho is waking up millions of people to events/histories we would never have dreamed of.He would be the first one to admit not all his claims are right and he adjusts with new research and infomation as we all should and do. I submit if their is anyone in the alternate community that does not reasonate with any of Davids vast portfolio of work you are in the wrong community.

That is not to so you cannot disagree with parts , as he says he is a messenger and connector of events.Some agendas are predictable hence his phrase 'Problem Reaction Sollution' and the twenty years study into this vast subject must give him a insight to the world the envy of any Oxbridge or Harvard proffessor though they would not acknowledge him.Remember he has had many ups and downs on his road for truth so don't count him out yet...

He is a very brave man.......How many people stand up to Pharma/Banksters/Polititions/Royals!!!

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=CmCcU9jFilA

He is bound to attract enemies and cranks....Cheer Steve

[Omni]

I hope David can overcome this... I'll try and find something to donate...

[Heyoka_11]

Posted by Omniverse (here)
I hope David can overcome this... I'll try and find something to donate...

That's the spirit Omni!

Just a little; if everybody gives just a little.

[loveandgratitude]

The wealth of the Rothschilds could feed,cloth and shelter every human being on this earth.Bloody murdering genetic hybrids...I give you the Rothschilds.
http://www.davidicke.com/

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=J1WqQi1bEtg

https://youtube.com/watch?v=J1WqQ...ature=youtu.be

[Anno]

Posted by Heyoka_11 (here)

Posted by Anno (here)
Credo is good in my book but not on the subject of Reptilians.

Thank you for your reply, and also your recommended reading.

Can I suggest reading an interview that took place back in 1999, between Credo and Rick Martin from The Spectrum (newspaper). It's fairly lengthy, but well worth the time taken to read. I would appreciate your feedback.

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/esp_credo_mutwa03.htm

It's late down here, so hopefully I will find a reply tomorrow morning.

Morning Heyoka!

Off topic so I'll be brief (although it is your topic):

That interview is an excellent source to see the real picture of Credo. Ty for the reccomendation, I think everyone should read it.

You have a guy who is an awesome story teller who really loves his country and is trying to get the outside world to see what is going on. After a long and well known career as an author in Africa, noone outside is listening. Then along come these Reptilians. In my opinion he is telling people what they want to hear so he can also slip in what he needs them to hear. The real plight of today's African nations.

The first thing he does is ask for the newspaper to send someone to Rwanda. There are no reptilians in Rwanda, just mass genocide.

He then does what he does and tells the guy the stories his audience want to hear so he can then talk about the real issues facing his people today. I had no idea about that king that got killed like Diana.

In terms of evidence for Reptilians, there is none. It's just myth and if someone tried to use our own native myths as proof (by taking them as literal accounts) they'd be ignored. We know they're symbolic. A person described with a reptilian tail is someone that has a character attribute symbolised by the reptilian tale. Most likey connected to earlier stories that explain where it comes from.

As these myths are new to us and come from a different culture, the suggestion is being made to take them literally and some seem to do just that. There is no evidence only stories and hearsay. He also connects himself with Sitchin even though most of us now know that Sitchin channelled his info and pretended to have translated it.

In terms of information about the real issues of Africa and also the mythology in it's own right (always useful to add a new set of symbols and see how people deal with the universal stories), it's a very rich interview and well worth everyone reading.

The irony is that the people who should learn about the mythology and real issues won't read it because it's stamped with Repto. The people who will read it are too busy seeing what they want to be there to take any notice of what is actually there and far more valuable to humanity than some idea of Reptilian Humanoids responsible for all the ills of mankind.

I still think Credo is awesome. =]

[Fred Steeves]

Anno, maybe you should start a thread about the credibility of David Icke and Credo Mutwa, as you obviously have very strong opinions on the matter. However, the theme of THIS thread is to help David Icke, not to debunk him, or Credo Mutwa.

Cheers,
Fred

[Heyoka_11]

Posted by Fred S. (here)
Anno, maybe you should start a thread about the credibility of David Icke and Credo Mutwa, as you obviously have very strong opinions on the matter. However, the theme of THIS thread is to help David Icke, not to debunk him, or Credo Mutwa.

Cheers,
Fred

Hi Fred,

We have drifted off topic a bit I know, and Anno has acknowledged this in his last post, but as the OP, I am happy for that to have happened. Yes, he does have very strong opinions on this subject, and he is more than entitled to them, and I for one appreciate his input. Our exchange has also served as useful bumps!

It's all good man!

[Heyoka_11]

Posted by Anno (here)
I still think Credo is awesome.

Now on that point you will find no objection on this thread! (that I am aware of anyway)

Thanks for taking the time to read that transcript too; it is a goody, and as you have suggested, well worth others having a read as well.

I understand that your opinions have been formed after both careful and indepth consideration of David's and Credo's history and motives. You know the subject very well, quite possibly better than most, myself included. Nonetheless, we have simply drawn different conclusions, and it's a healthy exchange where we can disagree without trying to convince the other that they are wrong. It is however, in my opinion, about time that we let it go through to the keeper.

Time will tell I'm sure, and I hope that we can catch up on this subject down the track.

Best Wishes,

Tony.

Dang!........Who's gonna' bump this thread now?

[Cidersomerset]

Thanks Bill just read the link you put up, I knew he had been ripped off by his ex business partner afew years ago it was brought up on one of his radio interviews. The ex wife scorned one is new.

This is the part of this field that does not resinate with me...Pamala is what I'd call a 'Flower Power Patsie ' I just listened to this interview, some of which may be based on Davids works the rest is just generic free your minds and wishy washy day dreams. I have heard her on one of Kerries shows before , and she has her own path to follow.I obviously don't know her personaly so can't judge on what grounds she feels so agrieved about her ex husband.Whether her motives are genuine or bourne out of jeaulousy or greed we will have to wait and see.Most divorces are messy though it seems odd for someone supposedly a free spirit like Pamala portays below. It makes me wonder why would she would want to sabatage his message for financial gain if she is on her own spiritual journey??...Cheers Steve

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=11YOWiCHAAk

Hmmm !!!!!!!

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=tZAXlILARJQ

[Limor Wolf]

Originally posted by Heyoka_11:"Dang!........Who's gonna' bump this thread now? "

I will try to do my best

originally posted by Anno:
"There are no reptilians in Rwanda, just mass genocide.

He then does what he does and tells the guy the stories his audience want to hear so he can then talk about the real issues facing his people today. I had no idea about that king that got killed like Diana.

In terms of evidence for Reptilians, there is none. It's just myth and if someone tried to use our own native myths as proof (by taking them as literal accounts) they'd be ignored. We know they're symbolic. A person described with a reptilian tail is someone that has a character attribute symbolised by the reptilian tale. Most likey connected to earlier stories that explain where it comes from."

This is a serious matter for me. In the middle of 2006 a couple of month after I had my wake up call and my initial conscious conatct has began ,and before I knew anything at all about what is happening in the world,I had an experience (some may say it was my "dark night of the soul" ):
It happend as follows - I was pulled out from a dream in the middle of the night,I opened my eyes and found hanging right above my face a black vicious entity staring at me with the most hatefull expression,it looked semi-dense and had the most horrible vibration I could ever feel,I immediatly felt terrorized and could not move out of MY fear,the feeling in the room was extremly cold and I felt like my life energy is being sucked away from me,the last thought in my head was that I will probably be found dead in my bed.. I tried to talk to myself in my mind saying-"this is not real,this is not real,it must be a dream.." however this 'creature' was there staring at my face. I have no idea how I gathered the courage (maybe by knowing that I have nothing to lose) to close my eyes and rub it with both my hands for a few seconds and when I opened it ,this monstrous entity was still there.
At this point something changed in me and I started to attack it with words and the storm of my emotions through my mind and order it to get lost! I reacted fiuriously as if a burgler has entered my house only much more frightening.It disappeard

I had a few cases with shadow people or incubus before and I knew this is not it.

I turned on all the lights at home and in the next couple of days I was searching franticly on the internet to try and find what the hell it was.only two weeks later in an interesting synchronicity and via another link,I have bumped into a picture that was the exact image of the 'unwelcomed visitor',under it ,it said - reptelian.

I definatly can relate to the thousands that listen to Icke and similar others who speak about reptelians and rolling their eyes and Wringing their hands in despair,I really do!

But to me,that was what made me 'believe' that this is NOT some sort of a fiction or invented fantasy to the benefit of someone... when a couple of months later I encountered Icke's material,Jordan maxwell's ,sitchin's etc. I already was very open minded to recieve this reality.

Of course this is far from being an evidence,but I read Anno's response above,said with such a conviction! and although I am quite busy at work,I felt the urge to contribute some 'food for thought' to this controversial subject.

~*&^~*

Limor

[mahalall]

Uncoil the serpent within and David will find you.

His there to help and guide,

at the very least spare a little thought of love.

[Jake]

Posted by Limor (here)

Originally posted by Heyoka_11:"Dang!........Who's gonna' bump this thread now? "

I will try to do my best

originally posted by Anno:
"There are no reptilians in Rwanda, just mass genocide.

He then does what he does and tells the guy the stories his audience want to hear so he can then talk about the real issues facing his people today. I had no idea about that king that got killed like Diana.

In terms of evidence for Reptilians, there is none. It's just myth and if someone tried to use our own native myths as proof (by taking them as literal accounts) they'd be ignored. We know they're symbolic. A person described with a reptilian tail is someone that has a character attribute symbolised by the reptilian tale. Most likey connected to earlier stories that explain where it comes from."

This is a serious matter for me. In the middle of 2006 a couple of month after I had my wake up call and my initial conscious conatct has began ,and before I knew anything at all about what is happening in the world,I had an experience (some may say it was my "dark night of the soul" ):
It happend as follows - I was pulled out from a dream in the middle of the night,I opened my eyes and found hanging right above my face a black vicious entity staring at me with the most hatefull expression,it looked semi-dense and had the most horrible vibration I could ever feel,I immediatly felt terrorized and could not move out of MY fear,the feeling in the room was extremly cold and I felt like my life energy is being sucked away from me,the last thought in my head was that I will probably be found dead in my bed.. I tried to talk to myself in my mind saying-"this is not real,this is not real,it must be a dream.." however this 'creature' was there staring at my face. I have no idea how I gathered the courage (maybe by knowing that I have nothing to lose) to close my eyes and rub it with both my hands for a few seconds and when I opened it ,this monstrous entity was still there.
At this point something changed in me and I started to attack it with words and the storm of my emotions through my mind and order it to get lost! I reacted fiuriously as if a burgler has entered my house only much more frightening.It disappeard

I had a few cases with shadow people or incubus before and I knew this is not it.

I have put on the lights at home and in the next couple of days I was searching franticly on the internet to try and find what the hell it was.only two weeks later in an interesting synchronicity and via another link,I have bumped into a picture that was the exact image of the 'unwelcomed visitor',under it ,it said-reptelian.

I definatly can relate to the thousands that listen to Icke and similar others who speak about reptelians and rolling their eyes and Wringing their hands,I really do!

But to me,that was what made me 'believe' that this is NOT some sort of a fiction or invented fantasy to the benefit of someone... when a couple of months later I encountered Icke's material,Jordan maxwell's ,sitchin's etc. I already was very open minded to recieve this reality.

Of course this is far from being an evidence,but I read Anno's response above,said with such a conviction and although I am quite busy at work,I felt the urge to contribute some food for thought to this controversial subject.

~*&^~*

Limor

You are an amazing being, Limor. Thanks for sharing. Standing in your own power is the key. It is a tough one to learn. First hand experience with these creatures is rare. I used to call them 'the denizens', long before I had ever heard of David Icke. When I hear Icke speak about them, I find myself shaking my own head. Not in disbelief, but in amazement that this man has the courage to take on these denizens. They are REAL! There has been a condition of control that has served them well. That is changing. The human experience is peaking out of 'the box'. And these denizens are furious. It is not in keeping with their agenda. They cannot directly effect our free will, but they can play on our weaknesses and create the conditions that will make us decide for ourselves that we want to continue to live 'in the box'. These are the controls of government, religion, and science. They use fear as their most potent weapon. It is not theory, it is true.

For now, they can continue to hide in the shadows. But as the light of our world brightens,,, they are left with less and less shadow to hide in. Shine your light. We are winning.... Love ya, Jake.

[Carmody]

Posted by ulli (here)
I just read the link Bill gave us. It says that the two individuals who are now sueing him both entered his life within a week of one another. This makes me curious about David's astrological chart.
When negative angles such as 90 degrees are formed in a chart
an interdimensional "stargate" opens and lower dimensional forces enter our lives.

Just as his Peru experience must have been the result of positive angles,
lifting him up to find his soul mission,
this time his challengers appeared.

In my view the real test with this is not so much David's
as we all know he is being guided and protected,
but those individuals who work in the legal field and who have to deal with the case.

David's birth info is in your thread on astrology, I contributed it (if accurate...) in the first 10 pages or so.

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Misinformation... and people who like to be sure in their opinions and understandings..that is what the 'bad guys' like. They like people to disrupt the 'thought process' of duality beings like humans.

Thought or consciousness change is one of the items on Nikolai Kozyrev's list of 'things that have influence on aether flow'.

Therefore, interrupting the thought processes and stability of thought of individuals and thus groups, is critical function for purposes and aims of 'what is hiding in the backdrop'. (Page 6 of the 'soul harvester' thread)

Those who are certain in their mind ...will win - Those who are certain in their mind ...will fail.

Both statements are true, discernment is key. Discernment attached to subtlety and quality of discourse. High level discourse involves no blunt animalistic pejoratives (overtones and connectivity--ie bluntness and indicative slurs - negativity). Otherwise it tears the level of discourse and thought process down. It is not a matter of language or writing skills, it is a matter of depth of intent and one's connection to the world and how they work it.

We are supposed to be moving into a clear and conscious duality state. Doing such involves the understanding that our thoughts are connected to this space we are moving to -and to not understand that we bring disturbance to the energetic directions we pursue..to not understand how important it is to not take on 'bad information' and use it for 'disruption of others or the self' --this is key. This is key to understanding the heart of the issue.

We are hung by our doubts and uncertainty, and thus our rising fears and weaknesses; we are not using our heads or our strength.

So people, keep your negativity to yourself, clear it on your own, never bring it to this forum.

The moment you allow yourself to do such things, you tear US down, not just yourself, and that, as an act, would be pure animal monkey function, ego function.....ego function trying to take your future from you, from us, from all of us.

And this last thing, this is the first thing, the very thing that you must clear yourself from, and not injure the world and the self anew ---by and through the animal inside - that tries to drive.

[sygh]

Wow, a life-time of studies. A life-time of toil. And this is what meets him at the top of the hill. A noble cause, David being the first wake-up call for so many.

Well, I am broke. $7.45@hr * 24 hrs = the bigger picture.

[ulli]

Posted by Carmody (here)
David's birth info is in your thread on astrology, I contributed it (if accurate...) in the first 10 pages or so.

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Fingers are sore from scrolling. Can't find it.
Also can't seem to get the search engine to spit it out,
not even using the Advanced search. Never mind.
Must take care here not to become too obsessive compulsive.

I have too much to do, and am too adicted to Avalon already.
tried watching the video with David's ex wife Pamela.
Letting that go, too. It's private business.
While I find it saddening that people can't get along
I also realize that much has to do with not guarding one's own health and balance
and taking time off for rest once one hits the international level where tons of people make demands all the time.
Bill Ryan is experiencing that here.
So what David is experiencing with his fame growing by leaps and bounds has just led to the inevitable.

[Ilie Pandia]

Hello,

I don't have first hand experience with "reptilian entities" but I think I should say that David Icke is not the source I've learned of such entities. He rather just confirmed and brought arguments to some information that I already had from a Romanian author: Ayana Havah. That is by no means evidence of anything but just a coincidence that this information appears from multiple sources. Later on Emil Streinu (a Romanian author that I respect) has related a report from a friend of his that also has seen these "reptilians". Of course this is another "third hand" story, but the point I try to make is that the "replitians" are not a David Icke thing. He was just the only brave enough to talk about it.

And let's be honest for a moment, if we accept the reality of other life forms, other entities (alien or not from Earth) why could they not be reptilian? or insectoid? or crystalline for that matter... why not be open to that, and instead claim that for sure "reptilians do not exist".

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by ulli (here)

Posted by Carmody (here)
David's birth info is in your thread on astrology, I contributed it (if accurate...) in the first 10 pages or so.

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Fingers are sore from scrolling. Can't find it.

Hmm ... my obsessive fact researching is at risk of feeding Ulli's obsessive astrology charting.

An advanced search for posts by Carmody containing the words "David Vaughan Icke" finds it: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post263320

Hopefully Ulli can manage her obsessions better than I just did, and will happily ignore this post .

[ulli]

All I will say is Wow, what a chart!
It explains everything.
Thanks for your help, Paul.
More later.