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    Quote Posted by oceanz (here)
    I think you'll find it was Anno's quote and not mine
    Hi Oceanz, please forgive me for the "quote mess", I did realize that and thought I'd kept and erased the right text, obviously not. My bad!

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    We can pretend you said it if you want. I'm not really in the mood today. To be honest, it's the kind of thing I'd ignore anyway. I think we all know in the real world, race is a very very real issue to most people and many are killed and abused every day because of it. On the internet it's ok to be all love and light but the next time someone is trying to mug or kill you for your race, try it out on them and see what happens.

    Meanwhile, back on topic: So I see the Nazi's may have had the Atom Bomb and used it as a big carrot to set up Paperclip/Nasa etc and also as a sneaky cover for keeping Vortex Energy and UFOS.
    Anything having to do with race is on-topic in this thread, as the entire thread is about race. You cannot speak only of the "white" race and expect not to have to discuss the context. Since our "real world" experience is that which comprises the parameters of our belief systems and knowledge bases it is pertinent to discuss the offhand remarks of members contributing to a thread in the greater context, as your original context and derisive remark toward so-called "Black nationalists" - which is a misnomer at best - was dismissive of quite a long history of scholarship as well as a sober recounting of an admittedly subjective yet accurate generalization of the behavior of one sub-family of humanity in its interactions with the rest in what are called "modern" or "historical" times. The term "devil" is used to describe individual as well as collective behavior, is a stereotype and representative of actions and outcomes, as well as intentions. The discussion of that aspect of the "white race" is pertinent to the thread since there has been, during the thread's progression, discussion of the Archons, the Anunnaki and the Greys, all of which have, at some point or another been considered "devilish" by one part or another of the human family. So, if there is some truth to these tales, then claiming an almost direct descent from one faction or another of these groups might be considered by some as "owning" a devilish heritage, if we want to be consistent in how we are looking at these things and, since you brought it up in the first place. I thank you for that, as it is also a pertinent aspect of the originally discussion and is imminently on-topic, not off.



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    They are Anunakians.

    Scientists have recently found that Neanderthals had bigger brains than original humans who lived in Africa, moreover, they found at least 4% of Neanderthal DNA in all human groups except indigenous Africans. They are theorizing that some original humans from Africa migrated north and intermingled with Neanderthals who had big frame, white skin and blond hair, thus producing today's people in asia and Europe.
    Thank you for this, David. I actually really love this part of the new and revised genetic history of humanity, as I've followed this debate for over a decade now and have always wondered what the problem was for Europeans claiming their Neanderthal heritage. Not just Europeans, but all of us who have European blood due to the deprivations of what the "Black Nationalists" call "The Maafa", or the Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade. So it is me claiming my Neanderthal heritage as well, which I think is kind of cool. But what are the implications of such? Who were the Neanderthals and what did they contribute to the human family? Were they another experiment of the Anunnaki/Archons/Aryans? Cro Magnon existed alongside Neanderthal for some thousands of years in the Levant and in different parts of central and eastern Europe, there was definitely some genetic admixture but what, culturally and spiritually, was the net effect of this co-mingling, I wonder ... For the longest, Neanderthals were depicted as being brutish and dark-skinned, their culture seen as simple and regressive, with nothing beyond an ability to create a simple kind of tool. In recent years, as the genetic argument has turned more and more toward the opposite end of the spectrum, it has been enlightening to watch the visual depiction of Neanderthals shift as a new examination of their culture and contributions to the Human Family have been depicted in a more favorable and "humane" light. The implications of the research seem to reveal that the civilizing or higher and more modern intrusion of genetic stuff by way of Homo Sapiens, then, came from the south. The story the archaeological and genetic record then tells, is that dark-skinned Homo-Sapiens lived close to and mated with light-skinned Neanderthals, resulting, finally, in the creation of the newest branch of the human family upon the earth, the "white" race.

    I'm reading the Kolbrin Bible currently, which has an amazing set of Creation tales that loosely corresponds to that which is given in Genesis, which is itself a loose and simple retelling of older Sumerian Creation tales. Even those "Black Nationlists" that Anno mentioned earlier, particularly the Nation of Islam, have a set of beliefs that speak to a form of "creation with Creation", which seems to be a recurring theme and a fundamental expression of Consciousness across the galaxy and universe. They say that the white race was created by a black scientist known as Yakub, on the island of Patmos in the Aegean sea over a period of some centuries to be a "disagreeable" people and opposite to the original people (read Black) yet, necessary, for the testing and evolution of the world and the Divine plan. The Kolbrin speaks of "the sons of god" who stayed apart, and then merged genetically with the others who also lived on the earth, described in this book as a lesser species. This genetic merging then evolved over what seems to be quite a long period of time into the resolution of these differential genetic stock into one, human race. The book also speaks of groups of people who were descended from animals, the implication being that genetic experimentation was rife back in the day, but that all of it went, eventually, into the creation of a composite human race originating from many different species existent upon this planet. So when scientists say that everything on this planet shares the majority of the same genome, ranging from +70% to +97%, it may not have happened the way they think, in some process of evolution by which we were everything before we were human, but instead, by the admixture of different forms of life with the "human".

    Chimpanzees have type A blood, with some instances of O, but never B. Gorillas have type B blood, with some instances of O, but never A. So does this mean that modern humans are descended from these primates, or does it mean that the ancestors of these two primates were used as the base stock for Anunnaki and other genetic research, whereby the essence of the alien "Other" was grafted onto them, resulting in the creation of modern humans, with the addition of the genetic strands of other lifeforms on the planet?

    Since ALL humans have blood type of one of the above - notwithstanding the RH negative and positive contention - does that not mean that ALL humans are from this planet, even if the members of the "white" race, the youngest race upon this planet, is the newest one to be grafted?
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    Quote Posted by Rahkyt (here)
    [...]those "black nationalists" are equal to you in essence, being souls on a human journey as well, and therefore subject to the same worldly conundrums as everyone else. [...]which you might have difficulty comprehending, not having to go through them yourself.[...]
    In one breath we're all equal and in the next, one has 'harder' problems and lessons the other can not comprehend.

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    [...]Denigrating the perspective they put forth which is based upon over 400 years of negative experience with "Caucasians" could be countered by a measured recounting of relevant factoids pertaining to that history, but in this venue such would probably be worse than pointless.[...]
    There is more than just 'one' white race. We may all look the same but we are not. All races have been someone's bitch at some point going back thousands of years. If you're stuck in the last 400 maybe it is you that should learn more of history? What is wrong with the venue exactly?

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    [...]1) what we now consider to be the white race is the remnant of an alien invasion [...] the white race is the one which is most closely aligned with [...] with Reptilians/Anunnaki [...] through colonization/imperialism/globalism [...]
    Invasion. Reptilian. Globalism. Like I said, white devil propganda.

    You may want to look at South America and the Olmec sites that show "White" and "Black" man living equally many thousands of years before you claim they invaded. Which is in this thread you just read all of. You may also want to look in to the fact that there is no more one white race than there is one black race. Which is also mentioned in this thread you just read all of. There are many tribes and one from around Turkey is the one causing all the trouble. It has made sure that the other white tribes have lost touch with their histories and identity and act as a scape goat. Which, guess what! Yup.

    Quote Posted by Rahkyt (here)
    [...]derisive remark toward so-called "Black nationalists" - which is a misnomer at best [...]
    Really? Want me to start posting the videos of them calling for the extermination of white people? I have a problem with all racists of all colours and I don't recall you ever commenting on me when I've said something about the EDL being inbred ****wits or the Zionists being a bunch of cowardly sneaky ****s. Why is that? We're all equal right?

    Quote Posted by Rahkyt (here)
    [...]a long history of scholarship [...] an admittedly subjective [...] generalization[...]
    Cognitive Dissonance.

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    Quote I'm not really in the mood today
    Why not Anno?
    Because it's FRIDAAAAY!!

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    Quote Posted by Anno (here)
    We can pretend you said it if you want. I'm not really in the mood today. To be honest, it's the kind of thing I'd ignore anyway. I think we all know in the real world, race is a very very real issue to most people and many are killed and abused every day because of it. On the internet it's ok to be all love and light but the next time someone is trying to mug or kill you for your race, try it out on them and see what happens.
    Why is race so important? In my experience race is just an interesting little fact like all the other factors of the whole person which don't form part of the human quidity. It's true, though, that two people can be neighbours yet live in completely different worlds. If it's important to you I wouldn't want to say it shouldn't be, but I can't see why it would be. To me, though, people commit a category error when they consider such factors more important than the essential humanity; just because 'Black', 'White', 'Arabic', 'Jewish', 'Aboriginal' precede 'person', it doesn't mean they're the more important part. Black people, White people, Arabic people, Jewish people, Aboriginal people are people first and foremost.

    Once you've decided that the value of a person is in their humanity as a living, breathing, thinking and feeling thing, and not as some privilege of race, religion or other triviality, things become so much more simple. And when it comes to origins — I really couldn't give a flying stuff if somebody comes from neanderthal stock or whether they blinked into existence on the spot; if they can be happy and sad and laugh and love and celebrate and grieve and all the things that matter they are the same in all the ways that matter.

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    The term WHITE MAN, is contested by a high number or white people, granted most of them are not aware that there is only one race HUMAN. I have heared people say, that if your Spanish, Italian, (the olive skin ones )Irish, French, Greek etc you are not white. Can anyone shed light on this or is just the ill informed talking more poo.

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    Quote Posted by Anno (here)
    In one breath we're all equal and in the next, one has 'harder' problems and lessons the other can not comprehend.
    Indeed. Souls are equal but bodies and physical experiences are not, outside of the context of lessons learned designed exactly for our individual evo- or devo-lution. Some people have different capacities than others, based upon their karmic burden per lifetime, different kinds of people have different capabilities. That is just life as lived. And I am speaking there, particularly, of the experience that people of a melanated persuasion have in a world, in a cultural system where racism is institutionalized. Because you perhaps do not experience it yourself, you do not know what it is like to walk around on a daily basis having to deal with people's near-unconscious behaviors, what it is like going into stores, walking through parks or down the streets, the small, subtle effects that institutionalized and personal racism have on those who have to live under its weight. If you do experience such a life, then by all means, share your experience and understanding as well as your compassion. As you attempt to find petty reasons to dispute based upon your original comment decrying those you consider offensive to you please consider the reality that the vast majority of this thread would be offensive to anybody not of a Eurocentric background. I am speaking on this topic reasonably and from a measured viewpoint. And I did not say harder. Everyone has their karmic tests to afford them the opportunity for growth ... being among those oppressed results in very particular types of lessons, as being among the oppressors does as well.


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    There is more than just 'one' white race. We may all look the same but we are not. All races have been someone's bitch at some point going back thousands of years. If you're stuck in the last 400 maybe it is you that should learn more of history? What is wrong with the venue exactly?
    That is very true. I am speaking of modern history just for the sake of this thread. I thought that I could speak equally well about ancient history, but I must say that I am clueless as to the existence of multiple white races. Could you inform me of where I can learn about all of these different white races? I know that "whiteness" was constructed as a racial identity at the end of the 16th century in the United States in order to agglomerate the lower classes of immigrant Europeans, many of whom were indentured servants, in order to prevent them from united with the blacks, with whom they had more in common class-wise, against the upper and ruling class Oligarchy, but it seems that you are speaking of something different.

    Quote Posted by Anno (here)
    Invasion. Reptilian. Globalism. Like I said, white devil propganda.

    You may want to look at South America and the Olmec sites that show "White" and "Black" man living equally many thousands of years before you claim they invaded. Which is in this thread you just read all of. You may also want to look in to the fact that there is no more one white race than there is one black race. Which is also mentioned in this thread you just read all of. There are many tribes and one from around Turkey is the one causing all the trouble. It has made sure that the other white tribes have lost touch with their histories and identity and act as a scape goat. Which, guess what! Yup.
    Ah, I see. You are referring to ethnicities, hence the difficulty with terminology here. Of course there is only one race, the human race, and many different ethnicities within the one overall racial group. I use race as I have seen it used throughout this thread in order not to have any difficulties in translation, but I see that did not work with you, as you seem to have misunderstood. I am quite well familiar with the Olmecs. That society was genetically predominantly Africoid, actually, there was a small representation of what could be considered to be Semetic people, but yes, it was a "diverse" civilization. Why do I need to look at that civilization, please? In order to bolster your point about "black nationalists" proselytizing nonsense? All of the terms you just quoted, "Invasion", "Reptilian" and "Globalism" have been used throughout this thread. So why do you not consider this thread to be white devil propaganda as well?


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    Really? Want me to start posting the videos of them calling for the extermination of white people? I have a problem with all racists of all colours and I don't recall you ever commenting on me when I've said something about the EDL being inbred ****wits or the Zionists being a bunch of cowardly sneaky ****s. Why is that? We're all equal right?
    LOL I might as well start posting all of the Nazi/White Supremacist/White Nationalist videos there are on the Net as well and, as you should know, there are many, many more of those than there are Black Nationalist videos on the Net. As I stated earlier, there is no use in all of that, as that is beyond the scope of this thread and, you are the one who brought up the Black Nationalists in the first place, as you seem to be conveniently forgetting. Regarding the EDL and Zionists, I'm sorry, I do not recall those posts, if they were in this thread I passed over them, although I thought I'd read the entire thread through. I highlighted your post because you mentioned "black nationalists", as if they all were about the same thing or believed in one, overarching ideology, which is not the case. I was speaking only to that particular quote, I was not making some sort of statement about you personally, as I do not know you. I also do not subscribe to any system that preaches prejudice, hatred or inequality, but at the same time, I recognize the truth laid bare in even the manipulated historical record regarding the Trans-Atlantic slave trade and the genocide of native peoples here in the Americas, as well as the depredations of racial slavery.

    Quote Posted by Anno (here)
    Cognitive Dissonance.
    On your part? I expect so, as you ignored the gist of my post except for a few points which you were incorrect about anyway. You did make an excellent point though regarding the fact that it was generally only a small segment of the European population who was in charge of the more extreme aspects of the Global White Supremacy System, but at the same time, it is a large majority of the Eurocentric population who now lives within the system, enjoying the benefits of the system, but refusing to take any responsibility for doing so, even as that system now crashes and burns around them. But it's all good. It's all in the spirit of sharing limited belief in order to come to a greater knowledge.


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    Default Re: Has white man colonised planet Earth?

    Wow ... I guess the music threads are becoming infectious

    We are One. That's the lesson. Time is runnin' a bit short to learn it.

    We are One with Gaia and *all* of life. Spirit flows throughout *all*.

    We are connected to the Universe and need to come back into harmony.

    We have all been many races and both genders before ... remember???

    Sure ... it is Friday. Let us celebrate *Life*


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    now i remember what i wanted to share. shaktipatseer2 made a small documentary about the hollow earth, the aryans, hitler, ect. I thought it was pertinent to the thread at the time, but i couldn't post it. so better late than never here is part 1.

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    The term WHITE MAN, is contested by a high number or white people, granted most of them are not aware that there is only one race HUMAN. I have heared people say, that if your Spanish, Italian, (the olive skin ones )Irish, French, Greek etc you are not white. Can anyone shed light on this or is just the ill informed talking more poo.
    Amongst the people I used to hang around with, this was a topic of much debate and conflict.
    Some said only Nordics are white, others said northern Euros and not southern.
    I can see the aryan progenitor in many groups, from Euros to some Arabs and others too.
    Not that it matters that much, but there is a connection.

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    Many well written and thoughtful posts in here. It's important to think about where we came from. In this we might find equality? Just a thought.

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    Quote For the longest, Neanderthals were depicted as being brutish and dark-skinned, their culture seen as simple and regressive, with nothing beyond an ability to create a simple kind of tool.
    My friend, this is exactly what i were taught throughout school years in Baghdad, so much for scientific evidence. I have said it before in another post, when it comes to His-story, anything can be fabricated with the right amount of undertaking.

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    Quote Posted by Davidallany (here)
    My friend, this is exactly what i were taught throughout school years in Baghdad, so much for scientific evidence. I have said it before in another post, when it comes to His-story, anything can be fabricated with the right amount of undertaking.
    I taught physical and human geography classes in universities for over a decade, as a graduate student and associate professor. Much of what I taught my students over those years, I now know to be incomplete at best, outright lies at worst. These days my motto is, I know nothing really, but I have a few ideas.


    As they used to say in that television show, the X-Files, "The Truth is out there" ... but what they don't say in real life is that pretty much everything you've been taught about the world is a lie. Been reading a lot about the Archons the past day or so, and trying to figure out how to combine all of these ideas about extra-terrestrial origins and the human presence on this planet, reconciling the archeological record, the genetic record and cosmology. The status of Earth as a Prison Planet seems to necessitate this level of deception and polly-annish ignorance amongst the general population, since the spiritual purpose seems to be a condensed and intense method of learning ethical lessons. If that's truly the case, I'm ready to graduate.

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    Quote Posted by Rahkyt (here)
    The status of Earth as a Prison Planet seems to necessitate this level of deception and polly-annish ignorance amongst the general population, since the spiritual purpose seems to be a condensed and intense method of learning ethical lessons. If that's truly the case, I'm ready to graduate.
    The whole idea of Earth being a supposed "prison planet in quarantine" is new-age bull**** with the sole purpose of keeping us sheeple who have new-age beliefs in a downtrodden state with no hope of getting out if it. The reality is that if we are a prison planet in supposed quarantine, then they'd better sack the prison guards, because they've done a ****ing **** job, to put it lightly.

    The amount of new-age information out there that seems to only serve the purpose of keeping us downtrodden and making sure we know our place ("Down there with the rest of the trash") is astounding. It goes to show that there are plenty of supposed "new-age" people out there who need waking up as well...

    I'm personally sick of it, I don't want to read about how we're confined to this planet, that we've all been naughty and this is our punishment. I'm only interested in the heights we can climb, and help in climbing those heights.
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    Quote Posted by Oliver S (here)
    Why is race so important?[...]
    Because we're not supposed to talk about it. Simple as that. Look at all the subjects that the PC people go after and then see which ones are connected to hidden history and the true origins of mankind. Women are subjugated to make the idea of Matriarchal societies look stupid. Gays are demonised to make the idea of Shaman and Warrior castes being traditionaly Gay/Bi look stupid.

    Every time 'whitey' starts talking about his own lost history and tribes you get nervous people assuming it's going to become 'Racist' and 'Nazi' and they pop up talking about nonesense. Plus you get the races that traditionaly capitalise on race discussions (consider positive discrimination) and bang on about something that happened to their ancestors that they've never even met and use it as a justification to get hand outs and sympathy.

    The whole subject is full of idiotic half ideas and paradoxes. Consider Aboriginals. Why is it being said that they came first? Because they're the blackest? Why do people assume 'White' man must be the Alien? Because they think 'Black' is more 'Earth'. What that is really saying is Black people are from Apes and White people are from some far off planet. Isn't that a bit racist? Why can't White man be the caveman and Black man be the advanced space alien? Or why can't all of the races have come from out of space which is what most of them claim when you read their stories.

    As far as I'm concerned, each variety of form you find whether it's a human race or a species of bird, exists for a reason. To ignore that reason is to ignore reality. Race, like everything else, is a field of data that can answer questions about our collective past and should be discussed freely without people disrupting the conversation because they think 'one has to be better than the other'.

    Form is the manifestation of Spirit. If Spirit was all one we'd all manifest the same, no? People can not claim to think they are all 'spirit' then continue to identify with their 'race' and start whining. It's just half awake people mumbling in their sleep.

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    The term WHITE MAN, is contested by a high number or white people, granted most of them are not aware that there is only one race HUMAN. I have heared people say, that if your Spanish, Italian, (the olive skin ones )Irish, French, Greek etc you are not white. Can anyone shed light on this or is just the ill informed talking more poo.
    I've not heard of it as 'you are not white' because that's just daft. I know the Nazis hated the Slavs and the Irish but I don't understand their logic. Within the 'White Races' there are different tribes but they all seem to have lived together at some point then migrated. Middle East > North Africa (including Canaries) > Portugal/Spain > Britain (including Iceland) > Scandinavia. With lots stopping off along the way and getting different degrees of tan.

    That said, I don't buy the whole, Hebrews and Arabs are white/caucasian. In my opinion, Arabs/Hebrews are the odd ones out that came out of nowhere and then hid in the white and persian groups. Call a Persian an Arab and you'll see how pissed off they get about it.

    If you're looking for an invader who came to Earth to cause trouble, look to the Hebrews/Arabs. They're the 'odd one out'.

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    I know the Nazis hated the Slavs and the Irish but I don't understand their logic.
    Erm, no, you don't know.
    Did you know there were hundreds of thousands of ''slavs'' in the service of the Reich in the war?
    And the comment about them hating the Irish? I won't even rebutt something so rediculous.
    This is easily found to be false with a very quick read over google found links.

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    The whole idea of Earth being a supposed "prison planet in quarantine" is new-age bull**** with the sole purpose of keeping us sheeple who have new-age beliefs in a downtrodden state with no hope of getting out if it. The reality is that if we are a prison planet in supposed quarantine, then they'd better sack the prison guards, because they've done a ****ing **** job, to put it lightly.

    The amount of new-age information out there that seems to only serve the purpose of keeping us downtrodden and making sure we know our place ("Down there with the rest of the trash") is astounding. It goes to show that there are plenty of supposed "new-age" people out there who need waking up as well...

    I'm personally sick of it, I don't want to read about how we're confined to this planet, that we've all been naughty and this is our punishment. I'm only interested in the heights we can climb, and help in climbing those heights.
    I'm speaking of more than the physical sense, I'm also speaking of the spiritual sense. I am one of those who believes that we are controlled in the astral as well, that we are tricked into returning and playing the game of karma in order to continue to feed those who do the controlling. That the religions, the spiritual paths, including the New Age, are generally traps. BUT, I also believe that the Truth MUST be given, and IS out there, hidden like jewels among the mud, that that is a condition of our reality, that we must be given a chance to discern it, if we are able. Archons, Foreign Installations, Greys, Reptilians, whoever or whatever you want to call them may be doing whatever they can to keep us spiritually bound, but for those who seek Truth, it cannot be hidden. I'm sick of it too, I know what you mean, but I do want to read about it because knowledge is the key. In order to know something isn't true you have to know about it and if you don't read about it you are choosing ignorance over knowledge and that is not my path. Because you are here at Avalon, I am guessing that it is not your path either.

    As far as the material idea of us being quarantined or something, I don't know about that. I do have the belief that there is a "breakaway society" who has technology beyond what the masses have access to, but I don't know anything about a sign on the back of the moon saying KEEP AWAY. Most of the information I hear about that is from channeled sources and the only channeled source that has a good track record as far as I'm concerned is the Cassiopeans, and I haven't read anything particular to that topic that they've written. If we're quarantined in a physical sense, then it must be a one way quarantine. I'm of the belief that if we can get out there then we're welcome to, since getting out there in a way that matters means having access to advanced technology that pre-supposes certain things. But again, I don't know ...

    That is why knowing about such things as these is important, finding out as much information as possible, seeing which parts of the information are given elsewhere, finding the correlations, making the synthesis and determining truth from falsehood using your own internal barometer of such, your connection to Sophia, Truth, the Divine, the Cosmos, or whatever you want to call it.

    That's also why threads such as this are important, because it actually bears upon your statement about the Earth being a prison planet being hunde shiza. A lot of people in the mainstream believe that about everything that we're talking about here, having no knowledge of it, having never heard it or having made the decision that it is such without exploring it at any level. Such is life ... and such is being an inmate in a Prison Planet for your soul, your heart and your mind.
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    Why is race so important?[...]
    Because we're not supposed to talk about it. Simple as that. Look at all the subjects that the PC people go after and then see which ones are connected to hidden history and the true origins of mankind. Women are subjugated to make the idea of Matriarchal societies look stupid. Gays are demonised to make the idea of Shaman and Warrior castes being traditionaly Gay/Bi look stupid.
    Race is important in the sense that it shows our provenance and heritage, and white people as any should be free to discuss such things.

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    [...]Race is important in the sense that it shows our provenance and heritage, and white people as any should be free to discuss such things.
    Exactly. And as we're about to see, whilst we're all being prevented from doing it because of the 'racism programming' TPTB have been putting a lot of effort in.

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    [...]Did you know there were hundreds of thousands of ''slavs'' in the service of the Reich in the war?[...]
    Since the long long ago the first thing any military force does when taking prisoners is to seperate any potential combatants and either kill, maim or convert them. We've all seen the movies where the Nazis take people off the train and make them line up. Women, kids, pensioners and the sick/disabled get to go one way and work to death wearing a concentration camp uniform. The combatants get to go work to death wearing a military uniform on the Eastern Front. What's the difference?

    As I'm sure you know, before WW2 most things now considered 'nazi' were popular theories in Europe. Mainly because in the past when Germany was a group of rival Teutonic kingdoms, one king thought; "Hang on, why should I have all these wars to conquer territory when I can just have loads of kids and marry them in to the other Royal houses? Within a generation or two his Family will be ruling all of Europe. Which they did and still do today, including America, Canada and Australia. Which is why Bush is related to The Queen. Eugenics and 'inferior races' were common knowledge and very popular.

    In 'Himmler's Crusade' by Christopher Hale you can read about how the SS weren't a bunch of racist idiots in beer halls. That was the SA. They were the top academics from every field that Germany had. They pretty much invented Anthropology by sending teams all over the world with calipers and plaster to measure all the different races and work out the origin of the races. Whilst some did that others talked to the elders or religious leaders and recorded any myth, cosmology and genealogy. Added to all the Occult knowledge they were also collecting and all the work from Scientists who would later form NASA, DARPA and the NSA.

    Their main source texts were the Vedas and they were looking for the Aryans who they saw as 'Nordic' Europeans. These Aryans started in Tibet and travelled in a circuit through India, Persia, The Med, North Africa and around through the UK before ending up where they are today. Founding all the big civilisations along the way including Egypt, which explains all the links with Scotland.

    You could have skin as fair as Snow White but if you didn't have blonde hair and blue eyes you weren't pure. You came from some kind of interbreeding with one of the other races along that ancient journey. As they were mainly using the Vedas they saw this as breaking the interbreeding laws of the caste system and as such all other white races are inferior. Not as inferior as the Black or Asian or whatever other race, but inferior none the less.

    They further claim (and I don't know if this is true) that the word Nordic was invented by them and comes from the Sanskrit word for Aristocrat or Noble. Ever noticed how the people that channel them (or their cousins the pleadians) tend to be blonde with blue eyes?

    Or if you fancy a Google, go look at the street maps of New York and see what races we shipped out into the now famous poor areas we're used to seeing in Movies and Musicals. The Italians, Russians, Irish and Spanish are in there next door to the Jews and Blacks. On the other side of the Journey you have purpose built slave port of Liverpool. The ones that never left and settled there instead are called 'Scousers' and are only one step above 'pikeys' in British Folklore. On that, Why does the River Mersey run through Liverpool? Because if it didn't it'd get mugged.

    To show how matter of fact all this knowledge was taken, especially by the SS, here's a quote from the 'Himmler's Crusade' book that is an SS person you may recognise, talking about how new applicants had to attach a photo to their application so that their faces could be measured to work out what races their ancestors may have been 'impure' with...

    Quote [...]A typical Slav-face would scarcely be taken into the SS by an SS-Fuhrer,' Himmler wrote.[...]
    Speaking of Himmler and bringing it back to Avalon. He was a massive fan of the Arthur Legends.

    For evidence in a familiar Whistle Blower you can look at Joseph Farrell. Most of his evidence comes from Russia via Former East Germany after the wall came down. Why? Because the Nazis only used their deadliest secret weapons on the Eastern Front. Never on the Western Front or the UK. If they were just a mad killing machine why didn't they use them on both or even (as he asks) not put fuel air bombs on rockets and obliterate London? Why (he asks again) did they send a plane to within a few miles of New York to take photos and not bomb it?

    I would suggest that they never wanted to kill us because we were closer to the pure bloodstreams and valuable gentically as well as the financial links we all know of. The Eastern Front countries were inferior, the west was just 'poluted'. Instead they separated out all the undesirables and took them away and killed them in Poland and along the Eastern Front. Or shipped them off to the US and Australia as they'd been doing for quite a while as I already mentioned.

    So you see, not so rediculous after all.

    If anyone wants more quotes from the book let me know. =]
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    this is some interesting material, and this has lots of background on the ET history of earth as described to Mr. Winter by Alex Collier himself.
    ~I recommend watching 1-8
    Why not now?

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    It was colonized by the colonizers, not from this earth by far.


    http://files.meetup.com/1545595/Zech...0of%20Enki.pdf
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    thanks WF .... this book is very interesting.

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