David Icke 2011

[grapevine]

So ..... what is in store for him Ulli? What do you see ....?

[king anthony]

Posted by Anno (here)
In terms of evidence for Reptilians, there is none. It's just myth and if someone tried to use our own native myths as proof (by taking them as literal accounts) they'd be ignored. We know they're symbolic. A person described with a reptilian tail is someone that has a character attribute symbolised by the reptilian tale. Most likey connected to earlier stories that explain where it comes from.

I say, your words cannot be further from the truth; they are real, flesh and blood; this is not theory, a belief or such nonsense - I speak firsthand.

[Marianne]

I think David will rise above this challenge, that he will show what he's made of as a result of this.

Having overcome it, I think it will be his finest moment, and I am holding him in a triumphant light.

All love,
Marianne

[sandy]

Dear Darla,

Just have to say very surprised by your post, so different from most of the others I have read about acceptance, compassion, etc.

[Sierra]

<sitting down to wait for ulli ... >

<leaping up> Ulli! Are you going to tell us what you found here or on your Astrology thread?

Sierra

[Flash]

Posted by Heyoka_11 (here)
G'day Everyone,

Please read the latest update that I just received from David Icke's site.

David Icke is facing a double legal challenge to everything he is now so successfully and incredibly achieving worldwide. Can you help to ensure that his work continues?

Attachment 9907

The other legal case is the extraordinary 'libel' action brought against David by Canada's Richard Warman who has a policy of what he calls 'maximum disruption' - setting out to cause maximum disruption to the lives of those that he targets. The case began in 2002 - yes, 2002 - and it has been continuing ever since with a final trial date in the process of being decided. The legal bill for preparation and trial has been estimated at a high six-digit figure.

Tony. [/B]

If I am not mistaken, this is the case of "hate speech" that has been brought against David. Canadian law has a "hate speech" law that is often used mainly by the Jewish Zionists and very rich people support it (I haven't heard of any other group having used it, but I might be mistaken). If someone is known as being pervertly abusing the system through endless procedure, in Canada, as it may be the case with someone saying that he has no limits, the pursuer could be declared "Querulent" in the Canadian meaniing or abusing the law, and his cause could be declare irrecevable. It seems to be such a case. However, because of the lobby supporting the cause, I doubt that he will have any judge on his side.

[king anthony]

Posted by Flash (here)
If I am not mistaken, this is the case of "hate speech" that has been brought against David. Canadian law has a "hate speech" law that is often used mainly by the Jewish Zionists and very rich people support it (I haven't heard of any other group having used it, but I might be mistaken.

This is a documentary regarding the person of topic and (corporate) Canada.

*POST ADDITION*

There is a recent video of the lawyer who threw the pie (see video to understand) and he admits his wrong.



The below video ties into the second half of the quote indirectly; Dr. Tony Martin begins speaking at 10:12 minutes.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=EByk0kVl9zA

I share the above as it relates to the topic of discussion and clarify that it may not reflect, in part or in full, me.

[Anno]

Posted by king anthony (here)

Posted by Anno (here)
In terms of evidence for Reptilians, there is none. It's just myth and if someone tried to use our own native myths as proof (by taking them as literal accounts) they'd be ignored. We know they're symbolic. A person described with a reptilian tail is someone that has a character attribute symbolised by the reptilian tale. Most likey connected to earlier stories that explain where it comes from.

I say, your words cannot be further from the truth; they are real, flesh and blood; this is not theory, a belief or such nonsense - I speak firsthand.

I'm not saying they don't exist. The potential for Reptilian Humanoids to exist is equal to the potential for Mammalian Humanoids to exist. That is simple logic. What I do say is that there is no evidence beyond hearsay and a very large proportion of those who promote this Repto Agenda are seriously dodgy and can all be traced back to the mid 90's and Theosophy.

[king anthony]

Posted by Anno (here)
I'm not saying they don't exist. The potential for Reptilian Humanoids to exist is equal to the potential for Mammalian Humanoids to exist. That is simple logic. What I do say is that there is no evidence beyond hearsay and a very large proportion of those who promote this Repto Agenda are seriously dodgy and can all be traced back to the mid 90's and Theosophy.

In brief, I say, aside from others relying on the words of another (hearsay), there are those who give firsthand (witness) account of encounters with this species. This applies to any topic, of "mainstream knowledge" (such as, no one should be dying of anything in modern times) and things of "non-mainstream knowledge" (such as, using common language, ETs and UFOs).

Why is it that even with witness testimony (official and not), people cannot accept the truth/facts of modern day events (pick any in modern history). However, people do accept the hearsay of modern day events (such as published official reports or mainstream media) as fact; if it were not for some, on various topics, attempting to expose, there would be no discussion of such events.

The "rule of standard" imposes that "what one does to one side must also do to the other", meaning the same standard should be imposed. Through social conditioning, double standards are imposed by each daily from major social topics to individual lives. As well, "the few" (the elite/ruling class) impose "do as I say and not as I do", which in itself a double standard.

"The few" have confused everything for the masses and the masses perpetuate such through their own conditioning. This also keeps the masses in a perpetual state of seeking and learning, as the masses bounce from one falsehood to another as nothing makes sense in the big picture.

This ties into how, in modern civilization, people are conditioned to believe that everyone is entitled to their opinion, belief, reality, thought and so forth; while (falsely) empowering each in being correct, while making claim "no one actually knows". This does not only blind the masses to the one truth but it also discredits each (other) before anything is even stated.

When one steps forward and says, "I have witnessed __________", others confuse this as hearsay and deem it not creditable, questionable, only a perception or even as another's own reality. Therefore I say, when one speaks of "things being possible", [quote] "The potential for Reptilian... to exist.", after the fact one gives testimony, and possibly some evidence is insulting to human intelligence on many levels (towards all participants in discussion and those not).

Simply because one has not experienced something does not mean it is not so. How would this work if soldiers, who rely on the words of another in warning of enemy movement, questions each other on the information given!? Soldiers are taught to trust each other - while the masses are taught to distrust each other. For a soldier (as each in daily living) there is one truth, as each experiences the one reality - the actual engagement during combat; I am not addressing the why they may be in combat (such as false flag operations).

I say, speak and believe what you will, for faith, beliefs and such is for feel good; and my words (only speaking for myself) do not make me feel good (indifferent), they do not belong to me as I have not made them up, they are of no benefit to me nor am I emotionally attached (as beliefs are). I share to aid and promote others to seek the truth/facts on their own by (for example) cross-referencing (true) historical facts.

I say, reptilians do exist and I dare say, at the risk of sounding insane - I know this firsthand as a witness.

In closing, "you" (and others) speak of "hearsay" and attribute this to being something of question - yet, who (example, here in the forum) has not spoken the words of another, relied on the words of another and sought the words of another, in book or video - and relayed (shared) another's thought in one way or another!? Maybe this is because they have been qualified by yet another of the same - another form of social conditioning!?

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by Anno (here)
If I'm wrong I'm happy to be wound up about it for the rest of eternity. =]

You don't have to be wound up about it for the rest of eternity!

But yes, you are wrong.

[crested-duck]

I personally feel king anthony's last post is 100% correct and very well expressed. This has been a interesting thread to say the least. I've gained what I consider valuable insight to this reality from DI over the past few years of my awakening. I wish him well with these obstacles.I have'nt hit the thanks button on each and every post but I want to thank everybody right now for your contributions !

[DeDukshyn]

Posted by Anno (here)

Posted by king anthony (here)

Posted by Anno (here)
In terms of evidence for Reptilians, there is none. It's just myth and if someone tried to use our own native myths as proof (by taking them as literal accounts) they'd be ignored. We know they're symbolic. A person described with a reptilian tail is someone that has a character attribute symbolised by the reptilian tale. Most likey connected to earlier stories that explain where it comes from.

I say, your words cannot be further from the truth; they are real, flesh and blood; this is not theory, a belief or such nonsense - I speak firsthand.

I'm not saying they don't exist. The potential for Reptilian Humanoids to exist is equal to the potential for Mammalian Humanoids to exist. That is simple logic. What I do say is that there is no evidence beyond hearsay and a very large proportion of those who promote this Repto Agenda are seriously dodgy and can all be traced back to the mid 90's and Theosophy.

I traced reptilians back to ancient Sumeria via their scriptures and glyphs (well I didn't personally, but was able to research the works of those who did), much further back than the 90's ... and not relating to theosophy. But it may well be that a large portion can be traced back to where you say and be dodgy ... just because a crazy man says the sky is blue doesn't make it a crazy statement.

[MMA_Fan]

Hell of an interesting story with Icke.

Here's a man who goes through a very strange subjective experience (You would have to have a heart of stone if you don't feel for him during 'that' interview with Wogan), which leaves him searching for answers to them this very day.

Having bought (and enjoyed) his books and attended his lectures for a while now - I can honestly say I like the bloke. I don't rate him as a researcher though.
Granted, he travels a lot listening to local legends and modern eyewitness accounts but gets a lot of other data from pseudo researchers as well.

Like a lot of us do he looks for patterns and links in things which have no relation. Humans do it by default as we are pattern recognizing beings.
He has also said time and again something to the tune of: 'If people don't like what I am saying about them then take me to court'. Well, this time a couple of people are taking him to court.

We don't know what went on with him and the missus. If she just wants money because she then that is definitely out of order.

BTW: If people are feeling donation happy then can I ask you to consider the miners fund for the four family men killed in wales this week whilst working in the mines?

Cheers.

[Tangri]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Posted by Heyoka_11 (here)
As the update said, we are going to be taken aback, indeed shocked, when we find out. So who knows.............just may be.

It's his ex-wife, Pamela Richards. When the whole story comes out, a lot of people really will be shocked.

Read this...

http://consciousmedianetwork.blogspo...d-warrior.html

... which says all you need to know.

I stand with David in everything he does. He's as tough as it gets and would not have posted this request for help if he was not in serious danger of being unable to continue his work.

Anno, you are way out of line. If you're not well-informed, it's best to ask questions rather than display your prejudice.

What I learned from this life is " keep your pants up" if you do not want trouble.

[Heyoka_11]

Yesterdays David Icke lecture.

G'day All,

Yesterday will remain one of the most memorable days I have experienced in a very long time. I met up with Double Helix before the event kicked off, and I let him choose where we parked ourselves. Once seated, we started nattering about the forum, and our words caught the attention of the fellow sitting in front of us, who turned to acknowledge our words. It was Etheric Underground. As I mentioned, freaky! So three Avalonians were sat together almost dead centre in the theatre. That was at 08:30 in the morning, and by 07:30 in the evening, we were done (and so was my rear end!).

To see the energy that David puts into his presentations is to understand that he is 100% dinkum (for real). What a warrior he is! Actually, while trying to think of what to write next, I am painfully aware of the fact that words just don't do this justice. Sure, there are plenty of tireless souls that devote there lives to worthwhile causes, often involving great personal sacrifice, but to hear of the adversity and public humiliation that David suffered, and knowing that he never lost faith in the mission that he had been given, well, words fail me. This bloke is a true universal soldier, and will one day be hailed as a prophet / visionary / hero, whatever; and he is as humble as the winter's grass is green.

I was surprised to hear that the physic who originally informed David of the path he would take in life was Betty Shine. I had been in contact with Betty many years ago, after my Mother suffered a stroke. To hear of her predictions for David, the experience that he had in Peru, and what was related to him whilst in an ayahuasca trance in 2003 in Brazil, is to know that he is guided from another dimension for a very real and supremely necessary purpose. Further, having previously posted my status as a fence sitter on the reptilian agenda, I now lean more toward the affirmative, as I do not think that he would have been allowed to get this wrong.

I did not hear a great deal that was new to me, but to have it delivered in one complete, wham bang, sock it to your third eye event was almost too much to handle! After the event, I chatted briefly with a couple of young blokes (probably uni students) who were literally gasping for breath!

He made no mention of the legal problems that prompted this tread, and did not ask for assistance of any kind. He just made the most amazing four by two hour presentation that I have ever witnessed, and I can guarantee you that the all assembled (with the exception of the government plants of course) were blown away.

If you know that he is heading your way, and you have not yet bought tickets, please consider doing so, as his rheumatoid arthritis isn't getting any better, so who knows how much longer he'll be able to keep this up.

Personally, I thank God for David Icke.

Best Wishes to you all,

Tony

[Anno]

Posted by king anthony (here)
[...]The "rule of standard" imposes that "what one does to one side must also do to the other", meaning the same standard should be imposed.[...]

I wouldn't call people who say they've seen them liars. If they believe they saw a reptilian and I can see no obvious (financial) reason for them to lie then I believe them. That doesn't imply that I believe they saw a shape shifting space reptile or a satanic pedophile reptile or any of the other kinds that are meant to be out there.
The modern rule of Standard is (sadly) Picture or it didn't happen.
Given the ever increasing number of claimant contactees, I have to ask, why are there no photographs? You mention other fields and in each of these there is at least some evidence. Even Bigfoot has left a few hairs behind and we all know how many crazy artifacts Cremo has documented for Devolution Theory.
If anyone ever presents any evidence that physical reptilian humanoids do exist on this planet then awesome.

My own personal belief on this subject is closest to Spiritism (not spiritualism) and that what people are seeing manifesting as Reptilians are not the true physical reptilian humanoids that some claim exist here and do in all probability exist somewhere. There is evidence they did once exist here before us Mammalians and were created as a 'first human'.

Failing that, the explanation that makes the most sense to me is that some unknown Spirit form is manifesting as a Reptilian and further, the whole Reptilian Agenda (being mostly from channelled sources) is created by Spirits to freak people out and feed off them. I think that actually sounds nuttier than believing they exist in the first place, but there you go. =]

[Carmody]

Anno, we've been through this before.

You are not psychic, at all, IIRC.

Therefore, you have no experiences in this area. zero. Nada. Zip.

Like a blind man trying to tell everyone else that colors cannot exist ---It is akin to that sort of reasoning.

However... I will say that anyone who is psychic does not want anything like a reptilian to exist, whether they 'believe' in such or not. If said reptilian be 'evil' toward humans, that is.

[aranuk]

Would someone explain what IIRC means? So I can follow the drift.

Stan

[Heyoka_11]

Posted by aranuk (here)
Would someone explain what IIRC means? So I can follow the drift.

Stan

G'day Stan,

IIRC = If I recall correctly.

Just google these acronyms. "Urban Dictionary" has them all.

[Marianne]

Posted by aranuk (here)
Would someone explain what IIRC means? So I can follow the drift.

Stan

Perhaps the acronym 'if I recall correctly' -- seems to fit.