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    Default Re: Binary Star Isn't "Real" Until it is on CNN

    Quote Posted by jcocks (here)
    Seems a little low-tech way of doing that, but it could be a case of "we heard runours from our black-ops sources that these exist, so we'll send out some probes to check"....

    Also wonder if they really lost contact with the probes like they said they did.... Sounds like a question for bob dean...
    Such as allegedly checking out the "wave" ...

    Quote Of some considerable interest is the testimony from our insider source Jake Simpson, who told us in October 2008 that there was a 'wave' coming - but that it would not arrive here for quite a few years: possibly around 2017-2020. When asked how he knew, his response was that highly advanced and classified superluminal [faster-then-light] craft had been out to "take a look", and had then returned to report back with the information. Jake told us that the effect could either be cataclysmic, or "just a puff of wind"... and that exactly what would happen, and when, was simply not known.

    http://projectcamelot.org/paul_laviolette.html

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    In all likelihood our solar system's binary star is the "Dog Star" Sirius.

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    Quote Posted by DoubleHelix (here)
    In all likelihood our solar system's binary star is the "Dog Star" Sirius.
    One of the closest but also the brightest (not fitting a "brown dwarf" type).

    Also apparently a binary system into itself.

    Care to elaborate?

    Quote Sirius is the sky’s brightest star. It’s nearly 3-and-a-half times brighter than Arcturus, the next-brightest star easily visible from northern latitudes. Most people notice Sirius in the southeast – south – or southwest on evenings from winter to mid-spring. It’s also fun to spot Sirius as it ascends in the east before dawn on late summer mornings.

    At 8.6 light-years distance, Sirius is one of the nearest stars to us after the sun. (A light year is nearly 6 trillion miles!) In fact it is the nearest star easily visible to the unaided eye from most of the northern hemisphere. Classified by astronomers as an “A” type star, it is much hotter than our sun, with about surface about 17,000 degrees F (the sun is about 10,000 degrees F). With slightly more than twice the mass of the sun and just less than twice its diameter, Sirius still puts out 26 times as much energy. It is considered a normal (main sequence) star, meaning that it produces most of its energy by converting hydrogen into helium through nuclear fusion. As mentioned above, Sirius has a small, faint companion star appropriately called “The Pup.” That name signifies youth, but in fact “The Pup” is a dead star called a “white dwarf.” Once a mighty star, today it is an earth-sized ember too faint to be seen without a telescope.

    http://earthsky.org/brightest-stars/...brightest-star
    Quote Sirius is a binary star system consisting of two white stars orbiting each other with a separation of about 20 astronomical units (3.0×109 km; 1.9×109 mi)[note 5] (roughly the distance between the Sun and Uranus) and a period of 50.1 years. The brighter component, termed Sirius A, is a main sequence star of spectral type A1V, with an estimated surface temperature of 9,940 K.[8] Its companion, Sirius B, is a star that has already evolved off the main sequence and become a white dwarf. Currently 10,000 times less luminous in the visual spectrum, Sirius B was once the more massive of the two.[68] The age of the system has been estimated at around 230 million years. Early in its lifespan it was thought to have been two bluish white stars orbiting each other in an elliptical orbit every 9.1 years.[68] The system emits a higher than expected level of infrared radiation, as measured by IRAS space-based observatory. This may be an indication of dust in the system, and is considered somewhat unusual for a binary star.[66][69] The Chandra X-ray Observatory image shows Sirius B outshining its bright partner as it is a brighter X-ray source.[70]

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sirius
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    That's the conclusion that I'm leaning toward after coming across numerous accounts from certain individuals relaying strong credence to such a theory.

    Walter Cruttenden offers compelling evidence in favour of Sirius being our Sun's campanion. His book "Lost Star of myth and time" is a must-read for anybody interested in the binary star system theory. He's also apart of the Binary research institute - http://www.binaryresearchinstitute.org/

    This brief interview is a great summary of his work and theory (24 mins) - http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMTc4OTUzOTEy.html

    Walter's just one of the many Sirius believers, nonetheless, a good place to start

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    There is definitely a problem of some kind with Bob Dean’s take on Nibiru. He refers to his ‘good friend’ Sitchin, and then states: Santorini (1600 BC) plus 3600 years equals now.

    Here’s what Sitchin writes, (in The End of Days, page 298):

    ‘Such an occurrence (a moon of Nibiru striking Uranus) would have affected the orbit of Nibiru, slowing it down to about 3450 Earth-years rather than 3600, and resulting in a post-Diluvial reappearance schedule of circa 7450, circa 4000, and circa 550 B.C.E. If that is what had happened, it would suggest the “early” arrival of Nibiru in 556 B.CE. – and suggest that its next arrival will lbe circa A.D. 2900.’

    So according to the number one Nibiru specialist himself, we have nothing to worry about for another nine centuries...


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    Quote Posted by araucaria (here)
    There is definitely a problem of some kind with Bob Dean’s take on Nibiru. He refers to his ‘good friend’ Sitchin, and then states: Santorini (1600 BC) plus 3600 years equals now.

    Here’s what Sitchin writes, (in The End of Days, page 298):

    ‘Such an occurrence (a moon of Nibiru striking Uranus) would have affected the orbit of Nibiru, slowing it down to about 3450 Earth-years rather than 3600, and resulting in a post-Diluvial reappearance schedule of circa 7450, circa 4000, and circa 550 B.C.E. If that is what had happened, it would suggest the “early” arrival of Nibiru in 556 B.CE. – and suggest that its next arrival will lbe circa A.D. 2900.’

    So according to the number one Nibiru specialist himself, we have nothing to worry about for another nine centuries...
    I put more faith in Dean than Sitchin.

    (regardless of the "good friend" reference)

    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

    One veteran researcher, who Kerry Cassidy and I also know personally, knew Zecharia Sitchin very well. This person told us that Zecharia had told him that his books were NOT translated from the Sumerian - but were actually channeled products of automatic writing.

    We were also told that Zecharia Sitchin was paid on a retainer basis by the NSA, who always wanted to be kept up to date by Sitchin about what the Anunnaki were up to - because it seemed that Sitchin had a direct telepathic line to the Anunnaki in real time. (Note: there is quite a lot in Sitchin's books that is certainly disinformation - possibly deliberately inserted by the Anunnaki themselves). But quite a lot of the basic story is probably quite true.
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    Default Re: Binary Star Isn't "Real" Until it is on CNN

    cool. Glad to see that it is on main stream media.

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    I put more faith in Dean than Sitchin.

    (regardless of the "good friend" reference)
    I know all this - but I still don't know what he's playing at with the "good friend" reference. Why refer to him at all merely to distort his words? I personally wouldn't have bothered.

    Edit: It amounts to fudging the difference between Nibiru and Planet X that others are painstakingly seeking to establish
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    Quote Posted by Calz_Avaretard (here)


    I put more faith in Dean than Sitchin.

    (regardless of the "good friend" reference)
    I know all this - but I still don't know what he's playing at with the "good friend" reference. Why refer to him at all merely to distort his words? I personally wouldn't have bothered.
    Cannot speak for Bob ... nor Jordan Maxwell who spoke glowingly of Sitchin.

    You bring up a good point.

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    Jordan Maxwell is a very good man in so many ways, but as a linguist myself, I am not very convinced by some of his forays into etymology... We all have our weak spots - strong in hearts often means no clubs!


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    Sitchin wrote "IF this is what had happened". That is not the same as saying it was what happened.

    Quote Posted by araucaria (here)
    There is definitely a problem of some kind with Bob Dean’s take on Nibiru. He refers to his ‘good friend’ Sitchin, and then states: Santorini (1600 BC) plus 3600 years equals now.

    Here’s what Sitchin writes, (in The End of Days, page 298):

    ‘Such an occurrence (a moon of Nibiru striking Uranus) would have affected the orbit of Nibiru, slowing it down to about 3450 Earth-years rather than 3600, and resulting in a post-Diluvial reappearance schedule of circa 7450, circa 4000, and circa 550 B.C.E. If that is what had happened, it would suggest the “early” arrival of Nibiru in 556 B.CE. – and suggest that its next arrival will lbe circa A.D. 2900.’

    So according to the number one Nibiru specialist himself, we have nothing to worry about for another nine centuries...

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    Quote Posted by onawah (here)
    Sitchin wrote "IF this is what had happened". That is not the same as saying it was what happened.
    "If" merely refers to the scenario of a collision of a moon with Uranus reducing the period from 3600 to 3450 years. He is saying the cycle has speeded up and still we are centuries from next time around.


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    I have most of Sitchin's books, but not End of Days. Did he offer evidence of Nibiru's passing on those dates mentioned, or was it all just supposition?
    The real proof is going to be when someone has actually been able to see and measure it's distance from Earth.
    Weren't some of those probes sent out to do just that?

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    He associates passings with events similar to but not including the Santorini earthquake, which did for the Minoan civilization on Crete, and some say happened at the time of the Exodus.
    But if, as many claim, Nibiru should be off the table, and we are talking about Planet X, it is strange that it should share Nibiru's c. 3600 orbit except for being c.1000 years out of synch.


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    What really pisses me off is the use of the term 'brown dwarf'.

    The difference between a 'brown dwarf' and a 'red dwarf', is astronomical. And those people who cover stories like this, or entertain the idea/fact, would know the astronomical difference of these two types of cosmic bodies, if they ........ well ......... knew a bit of, I dunno, astronomy?

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    Where did the idea that Bob Dean and Sitchin were not friends originate from?

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    What I find interesting is that they act like they just discovered it. Wouldnt they have know about this for a long time. They didnt say it was moving towards us they just say it was found. I would think they would of found it before now.

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    Quote Posted by onawah (here)
    Where did the idea that Bob Dean and Sitchin were not friends originate from?
    In your head as far as I know

    I said Dean was referring to his 'friend Zechariah Sitchin'. I am puzzled by his misrepresentation of what his friend actually said


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    I have not read Sitchin's End of Days yet, but I was curious to know why there have been so many different versions as to when Nibiru was here last and when it would return next, and if those estimates had changed since Sitchin first began his Chronicles.


    Auracaria wrote: "Here’s what Sitchin writes, (in The End of Days, page 298):
    ‘Such an occurrence (a moon of Nibiru striking Uranus) would have affected the orbit of Nibiru, slowing it down to about 3450 Earth-years rather than 3600, and resulting in a post-Diluvial reappearance schedule of circa 7450, circa 4000, and circa 550 B.C.E. If that is what had happened, it would suggest the “early” arrival of Nibiru in 556 B.CE. – and suggest that its next arrival will be circa A.D. 2900.’"

    I decided to do a little research of my own, and here is what I found...
    From:
    http://www.world-mysteries.com/pex_2.htm
    Sumerian Culture and the Annunaki
    Copyright Neil Freer and www.ancientX.com,
    Reprinted with permission
    What evidence supports the Sitchin thesis?
    “ A key underpinning of the Sitchin paradigm is the existence, now or in the past, of the tenth planet in our solar system, the home planet of the Anunnaki with the size, orbit, and characteristics described, as Sitchin has demonstrated, in the Enuma Elish and corroborated by Harrington, former chief of the U.S. Naval Observatory, now deceased.
     Tombaugh discovered Pluto in 1930. Christie, of the U.S. Naval Observatory, discovered Charon, Pluto’s moon, in 1978. The characteristics of Pluto derivable from the nature of Charon demonstrated that there must still be a large planet undiscovered because Pluto could not be the cause of the residuals, the “wobbles” in the orbital paths of Uranus and Neptune clearly identifiable. The IRAS (Infrared Astronomical Satellite), during ’83 -’84, produced observations of a tenth planet so robust that one of the astronomers on the project said that “all that remains is to name it” -- from which point the information has become curiously guarded. In 1992 Harrington and Van Flandern of the Naval Observatory, working with all the information they had at hand, published their findings and opinion that there is, indeed, a tenth planet, even calling it an “intruder” planet. The search was narrowed to the southern skies, below the ecliptic. Harrington invited Sitchin, having read his book and translations of the Enuma Elish, to a meeting at his office and they correlated the current findings with the ancient records.
    The recovered Enuma Elish document, a history of the formation of our solar system and more, says that, at the time when Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter, Uranus and Saturn were in place, there was a Uranus sized planet, called Tiamat, in orbit between Mars and Jupiter. Earth was not in place yet. A large wandering planet, called Nibiru, was captured into the system gravitationally. As it passed by the outer planets it caused the anomalies of their moons, the tilting of Uranus on its side, the dislodging of Pluto from its being a moon of Saturn to its own planetary orbit. Its path bent by the gravitational pull of the large planets, first its satellites collided with the large planet Tiamat and, on a second orbit through, Nibiru collided with Tiamat, driving the larger part of it into what is now Earth’s orbit to recongeal as Earth, dragging its moon with it to become our Moon with all its anomalies. The shattered debris of Tiamat’s smaller part became the asteroid belt, comets, and meteorites. The gouge of our Pacific basin is awesome testimony to the collisional event. Nibiru settled into a 3600 year elliptical retrograde (opposite direction to all the other planets) orbit around our sun, coming in through the asteroid belt region between Mars and Jupiter at perigee and swinging far out past Pluto at apogee. Harrington acknowledged that his information agreed with all these details and the maps they each had drawn of the orbits were almost indistinguishable. The current probable location of Nibiru (Planet X, our tenth) estimated by both was the same.
     It is the opinion of this author and others that, in light of the evidence already obtained through the use of the Pioneer 10 and 11 and two Voyager space craft, the Infrared Imaging Satellite (IRAS, ‘83-84) and the clear and unequivocal statements of Harrington when consulting with Sitchin, that the search has already been accomplished, in fact that the planet has already been found.
    We need to force the issue of the tenth planet being in our solar system, not just to demonstrate the validity of the new paradigm but for a very practical reason. The ancient records are very clear. The passage of the tenth planet, Nibiru, once every 3600 years, through the inner solar system effects the Earth, sometimes in catastrophic ways. It is very probably the cause of pole shifts, pole reversals, changes in the precessional movement, perhaps even catastrophic bombardment by asteroid size space debris that it may drag along with it. Since it passes through the asteroid belt area between Mars and Jupiter and its orbital path may vary depending on the position of the other planets when it comes though, it may have been responsible for the devastation of Mars. A rigorous, detailed computer modeling of the solar system, including the tenth planet needs to be done urgently for our own planetary safety. Remember that the Vatican maintains an astronomical observatory and Msgr. Balducci may have access to information that prompts him to make the amazing statements he has ---- no doubt as voice of the Vatican. “
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    At the same website, there is also this interview, which the OP has taken some excerpts from...
    Will Nibiru Return in 2003? Your Own World Radio
    with Marshall Masters
    Featuring an exclusive interview
    with Zecharia Sitchin
    http://yowusa.com/planetx/2002/planetx-2002-06a/1.shtml
    “The recent release of Zecharia Sitchin’s latest book “The Lost Book Of Enki”, caused a lot of public interest, as well as some unexpected and unwarranted misinformation concerning our destiny and the return of Nibiru. Consequently, some have predicted that Nibiru will fly through our solar system next year and with catastrophic results for our planet.
    Is all of this hysteria or fact? We wanted to know so we contacted Zecharia Sitchin with the able help of YOWUSA supporter, Josef Novak.   In this article, we’ll first we will present our exclusive interview with Zecharia Sitchin in response to a series of written questions submitted to him.  
    Interview with Zecharia Sitchin
    NOTE: The following Q&A interview was conducted over a course of weeks between YOWUSA and Zecharia Sitchin and has been reviewed by him for completeness and accuracy.   
    “In the eight books preceding The Lost Book of Enki (starting with The 12th Planet in 1976).) I presented the textual and pictorial evidence from all the ancient civilizations showing that WE ARE NOT ALONE -- that there is one more planet in our own solar system from which intelligent beings (Nefilim, Elohim, Anunnaki in Sumerian) had come here some 450,000 years ago for their own reasons, and who some 300,000 years ago engaged in genetic engineering to bring about Homo-sapiens by mixing their genes with those of the evolved hominids. Their home planet, which has an elongated orbit around our sun lasting some 3,600 years, was called NIBIRU: "Planet of the Crossing." “



    “YOWUSA: On your web site you quote from an article titled “Comet’s Course Hints at Mystery Planet” in the journal Science dated 6 April 2001:
    “A Supercomet following an unexpectedly far-flung path around the sun suggests that an unidentified planet once lurked in the outermost reaches of the solar system, an international team of astronomers reports.  What’s more, the mysterious object may still be there.” 
    From your research into the historical records of ancient civilisations are all such findings relating to the Sumerian Nibiru? 
    SITCHIN: The above is just one recent example of a recurring spate of revelations from the astronomical establishment touching on the existence of one more planet in our solar system. Some ten years ago the US Government itself, through its Naval Observatory, led the search for "Planet X" and the team's leader, Dr. Harrington, agreed with my ancient evidence. At that time even The New York Times wrote that all that is left regarding the existence of such a post-Plutonian planet is to name it... (I wrote to the Planetary Society that the planet already has a name: Nibiru). After a hiatus of a decade or so, the "discoveries" of "something" "out there" keep piling up again. 
    I have no doubt that at the right time -- right in the eyes of whoever decided these matters -- the existence of Nibiru will be officially confirmed.” 

    “YOWUSA: According to your findings, at about 11,000 BC, 7,400 BC, and 3,800 BC as a result of the appearance of Nibiru or the visitation of the Anunnaki, mankind experienced significant technological and/or sociological advances. 
    For example, the year 3,760 AD coincides with the beginning of the Jewish Calender and according to you the time of the state visit to Earth by Anu (a leader of the Anunnaki or Nibiru) in Nippur, Sumer’s “cult center.”  Assuming a relatively stable orbit for Nibiru, that would place a similar event in 3,440 AD.
    According to NOSTRADAMUS scholar John Hogue, the quatrains of Nostradamus predict that the Earth will be destroyed by the expanding Sun in the year 3,797 AD.  Mayan calendars are interpreted to indicate an “ending” at 2012 AD, and so on.  How do such predictions jive with the data on the ancient clay tablets? 
    SITCHIN: That Mankind's progression from Palaeolithic (Old Stone Age) to Mesolithic (Middle Stone Age) to Neolithic (New Stone Age) and then the great Sumerian civilization, had occurred in intervals of about 3,600 years, is a fact. That Anu visited Earth, approved the grant of civilization (=knowledge, science, technology) to Mankind, marked by the start of the calendar in Nippur in 3760 BC (which is still the Hebrew/Jewish calendar), is certain (as far as I am concerned). 
    But as I have tried to explain in my recent Seminars (though not yet in a full length book), the visits to Earth and the nearing (at what is called perihelion) of Nibiru do NOT coincide.  This is a point of immense significance, which those who have only read my first book somehow ignore. 
    Also, the assumption that the 3600 years, as a perfect mathematical given, is also at all times the actual orbital period, is untenable: Even the orbit of Halley's comet, about 75 years, varies from 74 to 76 or so. All attempts to pinpoint a precise date for future arrivals of the planet and/or of the Anunnaki are thus difficult questions. I will answer them once I am satisfied that, based on historical and astronomical data, I have come up with the right answer. “”


    Following from: Nibiru's Orbit Identified
    Copyright 2002 by David Millo
    www.MysteriesUnsealed.com 

    “Uranus and Neptune don't follow their expected paths. Pluto is far too small an influence to account for this.
    John Murray, a planetary scientist, studied 13 comets with well known orbits. He found them "... all aligned along a band, as would be expected if they had been perturbed by some large body." That large body above Aquarius, [Nibiru], is estimated to be 2 trillion miles away and orbit the Sun every 5 million years. [Discover, Oct 2001, pp 76-78]

    In "The Lost Book of Enki" Zecharia Sitchin has translated ancient Sumerian tablets. That translation details the planet Nibiru's orbit: "An outermost abode he chose for himself... A Shar [3,600 years] shall be his circuit..." Nibiru is also described as shepherding the gods [other planets]. (pp 54,55) Jupiter synchronizes asteroid orbits and shepherds the planets into rounder orbits. Sitchin's translation implies that Nibiru adopted a round orbit from a very highly elliptical one that brought it close to Earth. The gods descended from Nibiru where there alone they had seemingly immortal life spans.
    Nibiru orbit = Jupiter to Sun light seconds^2 span x 10 1 / Nibiru orbit speed mirrors it's orbit circuit in miles
    Nibiru is 414... times Jupiter span to the Sun 422... " " orbit period
    The Sun is 191... times Jupiter orbit period [Sun: 226 million year orbit, Detroit Free Press and 250 km/s orbit speed, The Scientific Companion] 191... " " " speed
    6x6x600 astronomical units = Nibiru span to Sun [approx. distance Earth travels in 3,600 years of orbit (Nibiru's Shar orbit duration)]
    6x6x.6 = Pluto au^.666 / Mercury^.666 au to Sun
    .666 = Jupiter speed / 9 planet orbit speed average
    The Sumerians bequeathed their 60 minutes x 60 seconds system of time and circle arc to us. They divided the cosmos accordingly.
    "Some 51 light-years away lies an extrasolar system similar to our own: a yellow star in Ursa Major has a Jupiter-size planet orbiting at a distance comparable to that of Jupiter from our sun." [Scientific American, Oct 2001, p 23]
    Nibiru isn't returning in 2003 but something epic is.
    Copyright 2002 by David Millo
    www.MysteriesUnsealed.com “


    NOTE FROM OP: I looked for some reviews of End of Days that might cast some light on what Sitchin may have said in his last book about when and if Nibiru's path might cross ours again.
    Here is Andy Lloyd's review at:
    http://www.darkstar1.co.uk/theendofdays.html
    “This is certainly Zecharia Sitchin's best book for some years.  It serves to bring together many of the various threads that he has written about over the last 30 years, as well as adding new material to his "Earth Chronicles" series.  He also answers some of the questions that have arisen from his work, and sets out his clear position on the important issue of the timing of Nibiru.
    The content of the book covers some familiar ground to readers of his work.  The ancient writings of the Levant form the basis of much of his deliberations, and he makes a better job of referencing the texts and work of previous researchers, upon whose work he has built so formidably. He also draws on various scientific reviews and articles, providing the usual eclectic Sitchinite mix of ancient and modern.
    Sitchin's focus here is the subject of Prophecy.  He theorises that history has a cyclical pattern to it; that what has come before will occur again.  His deliberations revolve around what time periods provide the context for these cycles.  It comes down to a choice of Millennia, Nibiruan orbital 'Sars', and the Zodiacal Ages associated with the Precession of the Equinox.  In the end, he opts for the latter, considering the end of the Age of Pisces as being perhaps fertile ground for a repeat of apocalyptic events which first occurred in the 21st Century BCE.  In that regard, he studies Biblical Prophecy for clues to the future.
    As my readers will know, my research interests are themselves built upon Sitchin's work.  His opinions about the nature and timing of Nibiru are of no small consequence to me, and I found the ideas he presents in this book very interesting indeed. 
    In my correspondence with Zecharia, he has seemed open-minded about my brown dwarf theory regarding Nibiru/Marduk.  Whilst no mention of this idea is made in 'The End of Days', there are several hints that seem to leave the door open to this possibility.  Figure 43 clearly shows Nibiru as a planet of similar size to Jupiter (although in the text of the book Sitchin compares it to the size of Neptune).  On page 110, Sitchin quotes Babylonian texts referring to Nibiru/Marduk as a Star/Planet, and highlights the rise of a 'Star Religion' in that culture.  In the context of the heretical ancient Egyptian religion of Aten, Nibiru is associated with the 'Star of Millions of Years' (p118).  This has an almost Nemesis quality to it, which I find quite intriguing.
    In other respects too, our work has coalesced.  Sitchin considers the Messianic connotations of Nibiru, and the promise of the return of the ancient gods.  This is a subject that I have covered many times.  He again alludes to the association of the Cross symbol with Nibiru. 
    Tellingly, there is no mention of an Exodus timeline for Nibiru.  This concept has been very popular amongst Sitchinites and the followers of the work of Velikovsky in recent years.  But Sitchin himself ignores this possibility entirely.  Instead, he opts for an completely different timeline, one more in keeping with a careful reading of his early works.
    His cornerstone historical marker for the appearance of Nibiru is around 4000BCE, with the arrival of Anu on Earth; an event associated in the texts with the appearance of the gods' star.  That date is not certain, and may even be more closely associated with the start of the Nippur calendar in 3760BCE.  I would favour this, because I think that the calendars are reset with Nibiru (including ours?).  Either way, the next historical appearance of Nibiru should have occurred in the 4 centuries before the birth of Christ...You would have thought.  But Sitchin makes a calculated gamble.  He argues that Nibiru came early, setting off a wave of Messianic prophecy and political intrigue prior to the predicted time.  He argues that the sacking of Jerusalem in 560BCE marked the departure point for the remaining Anunnaki on Earth, an event linked to Nibiru's passage.
    This idea seems overly complex; a 'fit' that is designed to merge with Biblical events of - admittedly - some importance.  This area of scholarly research is, of course, Sitchin's forte, but I'm minded to be cautious about too strong an association between the Anunnaki and the Monotheistic ancient cults of the Levant, like Judaism.  To my mind, the later messianic fervour of the Graeco-Roman period is demonstrably more likely to have been the backdrop of the return of Nibiru.  But, in the end, neither of our ideas fits the Sar period; we both have to adjust the orbital period; Sitchin reduces it, I increase it (or even multiply it up). 
    What is basically lacking is a concrete historical record of the appearance of this star/planet in the 1st Millennium BCE.  That's a hugely difficult question to answer.  Unfortunately, and perhaps wisely, Sitchin makes absolutely no effort to do so here.  Why?  Because there are no candidate observations which fit his theory in the historical records.  The Star of Bethlehem is clearly a mythical construct, although likely built upon the messianic myths surrounding Nibiru in the region.  This is why I now argue that Nibiru's orbit must have a grander scope, that its distance from us is far greater than Sitchin argues for.  That the Anunnaki are long-gone...
    For those of you who are apocalyptically minded, Sitchin's last book might be a disappointment.  Don't expect the 'star of millions of years' to return any time soon, folks.  His only foretelling of doom builds upon his concept of a calamity which marks the repeating of (Sitchinite) history.  As Iraq and Iran play a continuingly important focal point of world politics and conflict, so Sitchin sees the wheels of fate turning.  Be hopeful that he is wrong!
    I'm personally glad that Sitchin wrote this book, and that his work has been taken up by such a prestigious publisher as HarperCollins.  There are few such scholarly writers in the field of alternative knowledge, and this book stands as a testament to Zecharia Sitchin's talent for awe-inspiring ideas.  I remain a big fan.”

    NOTE FROM OP:
    Reading other reviews of the book, I was unable to find any further conclusions from Sitchin as to dates for Nibiru's return, but in one video at 6:50 minutes to 7:52
    https://youtube.com/watch?v=QWdmtHxxk4M
    he says that at present, we should be more concerned with the return of the Annunaki themselves, which does not necessarily correspond to the time of Nibiru's return.

    A 2 hour video of Sitchin speaking about The End of Days. Part 1 here:

    The reviewer comments”Sitchin notes that it's hard to determine where to start the countdown to the end days, which may be tied to the Aununnaki's reappearance. “
    Sitchin quips that the only thing certain about 2012, is there will be another Presidential election and we will be saying, no matter who gets elected, “Get rid of the bum!”

    and Part 2 here:



    in which he says that 556B.C. was the year of Nibiru's last passing.
    And in reference to 2012 being a possible date for the next passing, he says it's not possible, given that it takes 3400 to 3600 years to make a complete orbit.


    BUT, again he says that the times when the Annunaki came to earth or left did not necessarily coincide with the time when Nibiru was closest to Earth, and goes on to show the sign of Pisces on a mosaic floor of an ancient Christian church and a Sumerian cylinder seal which shows the next return of the Annunaki to Earth (by way of Mars) would be in the Age of Pisces, which is almost over, though there is still a lot of debate as to exactly when that is.

    We have heard from various whistleblowers that there are Annunaki presently on Mars, and we have heard some of them have never left Earth, but as to an official visit, it hasn't happened yet, as far as I am aware, unless appearing to whistleblowers and military, gov officials etc. counts.
    As to when the Age of Pisces ends and the Age of Aquarias begins, Sitchin cautions that the nuclear war that the Annunaki fought around 2,000 B.C. was about whether the Age of Taurus had ended and the Age of Aries had begun or not, and he shows the difference between measuring time based on cycles, which is more unpredictable, as opposed to numbers, which is exact, but may not necessarily be correct in terms of actual events.

    So judging from this, the Annunaki may be close or already here, but Nibiru won't be here again for centuries. But it's easy to see why there has been so much confusion, even for someone like Bob Dean.
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