Who Are the Powers That Be ?

[Bright Garlick]

Hey Folks - yes it does seem that I am back for a while !

I thought I would pose the question to you - who do you really think The Powers That Be are ?

I ask this because I am soon going to be posting a series of entries on this subject on my blog. If you search there you'll find a basic intro.

I ask because it seems that many people have strange ideas about just who TPTB are. Most people think of them as a homogenous group of evil bastards hell bent on making us all suffer and I'm here to tell you that's all wrong. Some think what David Icke believes is true and I think it's a crock of ****. Few people either seem to be thinking through this by themselves and even fewer have knowledge of this subject from the inside. There seems to be a large number of people who believe they know who TPTB are and they tell elaborate stories of their experience with them.

I have spent a long time looking into this subject both personally and through a contact who worked for them. And my views seem to be at odds with everyone.

So 3 questions :
1. Who are they ?
2. What is it you think they have done or you think they do ?
3. Do you feel they deserve compassion and foregiveness or anger and persecution ?

Please note that for those of you who have an interest in the subject of disclosure, it is important you really examine this subject to understand why things are moving as they are.

Peace to all, Bright.

[moonchild]

I don't mean to be rude, but you said
"I have spent a long time looking into this subject both personally and through a contact who worked for THEM."
Then you turn around and ask US who they are?! Shouldn't WE be asking YOU???
Will you be sharing what you have learnt from your contact?

[ponda]

1. It's probably layered imho.There is the public face ie the politicians,ceo's,official advisers,policy makers,banking families etc.Then there is most likely unknown shadowy groups in the background who have an occult connection and more influence,power and finances etc.The strings from these puppets would most likely go up into higher dimensions imho,beyond say the reptilians and greys and into non physical entities.It probably is a complex web of compartmentalized interconnected groups that filters all the way down to say your local cop,media presenter etc.My guess is that mind control is the main way that it all connects together.Direct mind control of main players combined with say global perception management and conditioning.

2.They have shaped our reality for 'their' benefit.The higher you are up the chain the more you benefit.From one level it might be about human emotional energy collection.From another level it might be about control of say an area of space.From another it might be about physical resource control.From another lower level it might just be about wealth etc.

3.From one perspective it's all a game and every being in it is influenced in some way imho.You also could say that the politicians and decision makers are being mind controlled to make certain reality shaping decisions and policies etc.I would guess that most or all of the big decision makers would at some stage be made aware that they are doing the wrong thing so as to give them a choice.What they do 'after' this might be their free will and karma.Most of the human puppets probably have no idea what is going on and just play along to keep their job even if they don't agree with what it is that they are apart of.I would think that they all deserve a degree of compassion and some probably more than others.I can't really comment on how it works at the et levels etc but it might be similar.Some are unknowing puppets and others less so.

[Robert J. Niewiadomski]

I think TPTW are not at the top of hierarchy. I think they take their orders from above and execute them down along the chain of command in their own distorted way. Sice this chain of command is largely distorted in its own the outcome is horrible. Chinese whispers anyone? We at the bottom of the chain allow for this distortion to persist as well...

We are ALL in it together... And only unconditional Love can heal this situation. No guilotines anymore... If we do that the cycle will repeat itself again...

[Bright Garlick]

Posted by moonchild (here)
I don't mean to be rude, but you said
"I have spent a long time looking into this subject both personally and through a contact who worked for THEM."
Then you turn around and ask US who they are?! Shouldn't WE be asking YOU???
Will you be sharing what you have learnt from your contact?

No rudeness taken moonchild. Yes I am comfortable with what I know and will share some of that. Too much puts me and my family at great personal risk but up to a point maybe ok. I allready have shared some here but few saw the connections before I deleted what I had shared. Call it personal protection !

I am curious about what others think - if indeed others have really thought this through or if they just regurgitate their favourite conspiracy icon ;-)
People genuinely fascinate me and I have compassion for all beings - as we are all struggling with the mind and the harmony between heart and mind.

Adios, Bright.

[gooty64]

You said, "Some think what David Icke believes is true and I think it's a crock of ****. "
iyho, what do you believe that David Icke believes that you say is a crock of ****.?

tptb is a good topic to formulate a collective working hypothesis on, and I would like to chime in on it. But, could you explain what it is with your very strong statement- that it isn't.

[kersley]

You have started now lets finish it...
Who are they? lets have some names and tell us why you think you got this right. Don't be afraid my friend. private message me and i'll spill the beans..

[truthseekerdan]

My question is: Does it really matter who they are -- or is it going to help us, knowing that info? What really matters in MHO -- as human beings, we are now becoming aware of our latent powers and intrinsic oneness; to the point where we realize that our expanded consciousness has begun to move us forward within a pattern that is changing our mental horizon and the very structure of life itself.

Much Love

[Russ1959]

I think Rik Clay got close to finding out before he mysteriously commited suicide. Check out all his you tube links! His loving family have said there is no way he would taken his own life because he loved life!

[ponda]

I agree with you Dan that in one way it doesn't matter who 'they' are but one part of waking up is to question what is going on and is this reality all that it seems to be.Breaking loose of a lifetime of conditioning might in part involve questioning who or what is directly shaping our reality.Why things are the way that they are is a big Q and the ptw are big players in this.Also i would suspect that these lessons that we are learning now will be important in the future.

[Curt]

This thread has lots of potential to be interesting. I should admit that I have no idea who the real power elites are. We've all heard certain family names mentioned time and again. I have a sense that these folks are advisers, managers and in some cases mere cheerleaders for a larger agenda, or larger agendas. They are the "power brokers", but they may not BE the power themselves. The power may be external to them. They may simply be managing it, executing on decisions that happen above them. But I have no idea. I have never worked for them, or known them personally. I am very interested in those who claim to have had direct contact with 'them,' and what their impressions of 'them' are. I'm equally interested in how folks who have rubbed shoulders with 'them' end up doing so in the first place. Those might be interesting stories in themselves.

[truthseekerdan]

Posted by ponda (here)
I agree with you Dan that in one way it doesn't matter who 'they' are but one part of waking up is to question what is going on and is this reality all that it seems to be.Breaking loose of a lifetime of conditioning might in part involve questioning who or what is directly shaping our reality.Why things are the way that they are is a big Q and the ptw are big players in this.Also i would suspect that these lessons that we are learning now will be important in the future.

I agree with you too, Ponda.

Here is a good link to get one started who wants/needs, and is ready to know more...

http://www.metahistory.org/gnostique...nIntrusion.php

[truth4me]

CFR is one but I guess you get into people who control. Zionist Jews, not your Jewish people, Rothchilds I believe over all control the Zionist whom control Israel whom control England whom control America. David Icke is spot on IMO about whats going on.....

[Kano]

BG,

1) In the grand scheme of things, it does not matter to me, but of course I am interested in this question as I think most are. I think the true powers that be will be unknown to us most likely forever. I say forever because they know the veil will be lifted and I'm sure they have taken measures to make sure their hands are clean when it happens. When I think about TPTB/W, I often think of Charlie's Angels and the way that Charlie communicated with the angels. This could be exactly how the real PTB communicate with their minions, i.e., Bush, Rothschild, Windsor, etc.

2) I think the gammut on this question has such scope and scale that it would be hard to quantify. But to put it into simple terms, what they do is protect their little group by making sure that there is never parity within the society as a whole. Keep people ignorant and make them pay to imprison themselves with some of the most cunning marketing and PR campaigns that modern man has ever been exposed to.

3) Compassion and forgiveness. But that doesn't mean that I don't want rain down a hay maker with brass knuckles on each and every one of their faces and make sure that they breathe through their mouths for the rest of their lives.

[Bright Garlick]

Posted by gooty64 (here)
You said, "Some think what David Icke believes is true and I think it's a crock of ****. "
iyho, what do you believe that David Icke believes that you say is a crock of ****.?

tptb is a good topic to formulate a collective working hypothesis on, and I would like to chime in on it. But, could you explain what it is with your very strong statement- that it isn't.

That's a good qu. I have no problems with Mr Icke's comments about peace and love and compassion but I have a problem with his views on the grand conspiracy which involves reference to The Reptilians and all that that entails. That's just deluded and mis-informed. His spontaneous epiphanies are also quite humorous. And I have a real issue with his ego and that he makes a lot of money peddling his tripe ! Nothing evolved about the man or his opinions. He creates further division, hatred, anger and negativity - all the things he supposedly fights against ! And people swallow his words like gospel, like sheep - just like many here did with Atticus.

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Posted by kersley (here)
You have started now lets finish it...
Who are they? lets have some names and tell us why you think you got this right. Don't be afraid my friend. private message me and i'll spill the beans..

I appreciate the sentiments - if only it were that easy. You are not putting your family at risk like I am. That's why I will only share what I can - up to a point. Names cross that line and I am not prepared to take that risk.

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Posted by truthseekerdan (here)
My question is: Does it really matter who they are -- or is it going to help us, knowing that info? What really matters in MHO -- as human beings, we are now becoming aware of our latent powers and intrinsic oneness; to the point where we realize that our expanded consciousness has begun to move us forward within a pattern that is changing our mental horizon and the very structure of life itself.

Much Love

Perfect. It doesn't really matter - which is exactly what my contact who knows this stuff, said to me. Feeling our connectedness and living is all that matters.

[christian]

I surely won't go into all the details, I had that over and over and I'm at a point, where I focus more on solutions.

Posted by Bright Garlick (here)
1. Who are they ?
2. What is it you think they have done or you think they do ?

'service to self' and 'manipulate, control & enslave' - everyone with this agenda, but appearently especially the Annunaki.

Posted by Bright Garlick (here)
3. Do you feel they deserve compassion and foregiveness or anger and persecution ?

Turn it around: How would you like to behave? Compassionate and foregiving or angry and vindictive?

[etm567]

I don't post very often, I just mostly read, but... I disagree with some of what you say. I didn't go along with Atticus, at all, but I don't find David Icke to be terribly egotistical. As far as the Reptilians are concerned, I do not know what is true. It definitely seems farfetched, but that doesn't make something impossible. I do believe the Anunnaki were here, and I do not know if they are/were Reptilian or not.

It does seem that certain powerful families have been very careful about interbreeding. The first few Rothschild generations married first cousins, aunts and uncles, very closely related relatives to the exclusion of anyone else, it seems. Why did they do that?

I'm not saying I know any of these answers, but I have spent a great deal of time thinking about it and looking for information. The thing about most information is that it is all, at best, secondhand. So, who to believe? Hard to say.

I do think there are many good guys who function as reporters, or journalists, in a way, like Bill, like Ben Fulford, and others. And they pass on to us information they get from people, sometimes whistleblowers, who come to them with information. And journalists like Ben carefully develop inside sources. These sources may mislead them sometimes, and sometimes the sources may themselves be misled. There are so many points at which misinformation can be introduced I think it must be almost impossible for most of us to discern the truth. And just saying, "Use your discernment," doesn't cut it, in my view. Maybe other folks are much better at discerning than I am and can be sure about what's true and what isn't. I find I cannot. I have to leave some room for the truth, when it is revealed, to be a little bit, if not a great deal, different from what I have pictured.

[ViralSpiral]

Posted by Bright Garlick (here)

So 3 questions :
1. Who are they ?
2. What is it you think they have done or you think they do ?
3. Do you feel they deserve compassion and foregiveness or anger and persecution ?

Have been thinking about these questions, and whilst I have no idea who they are, what I have come to understand is that we have been "created" as a slave race to effectively utilize earths resources, with the potential to ascend our limited paradigms through "compassion and forgiveness". We have forgotten how to use certain powers such as healing and telepathy and need to "evolve" back to those, and unconditional love. In which case, of course we should forgive however, we cannot yet see it, or feel it.....

To that end, there are probably different "powers that be" who have the intention of assisting in our evolution and emancipation of humanity, whilst other clandestine groups wish to keep us enslaved through mind control and manipulation. Each having their own motivation and activities.

The "war of souls" is theirs, not ours. I agree with Truthseekerdan: Does it really matter who they are?

Although, through my being human it obviously intrigues me , I cannot see how knowing would make a difference . What I do acknowledge, is that there has to be a deeper surrender. Not complacency or anger or persecution.

Thank you for your questions, my head now hurts


Every mind must make its choice between truth and repose. It cannot have both. Ralph Waldo Emerson

[Cartomancer]

I believe it is the Rex Deus. The Holy Bloodline of the original priesthood of Jerusalem. It is people who consider themselves to be descendants of this group. This includes the bloodline of Christ. This group has both "good" and "bad" factions. Like star wars.

[THIRDEYE]

garlick i have to disagree with you...if david icke were so abundantly comfortable...why is he asking for donations for his up comimg law and liability suits....i soppose this might be a biased opinion either you have your head in or it have out.....i learned very long ago 1/2 in 1/2 out only leads to half measures...as for the powers to be they are bloodlines imho...weather it be the rothchilds.night templar,ilumanati,free masons,rockafellars,bildenburgers ect....i could go on and on...jordan maxwell is an ecellent sorce for hidden societys and the accult...(hidden)....george green is also abundantly knowledgeable on these so called societys....for me i do not wish to even ackknowledge these groups...for me it takes the focus off of the light and love paradigms....when i waste my energy even thinking about these ogilarchs it just feeds into there collective of confusion and mind control....just some food for thought...light love and abundance...thirdeye....