How do you find the strength/power in yourself?

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Hi Debby....

To day i had just this discussion you brought up with a loved one, (funny how life works)
She told me she got a time at Registered psychologists, and just needed to talk alot too get the issue out of her. Quote "I just need to talk a lot, you cant help me"
I askt her knowingly she has wrestled many years with this, does it help you to talk a lot, if you look back??
No not really, but it feels good for a moment!!

I told her how i try to stay in the moment just here and now, feel the wind gentle touch your skin, listen to the birds and all the sounds around you.
And as soon the silly voice in your head starts nagging about the things i really cant do anything about right in the moment i am in, i tell the voice to keep silent even to shut-up.
This i have to repeat over and over, and it have been a blessing in my life. Slowly but surely i have taken my life back.

This needs the will and determination to pull-off, and i am not sure my loved one can do it yet.
nevertheless i like to share this with you...and send all my love to you...

[divine_moments_of_truth]

Wow, I'm very glad you posted this. I'm dealing with a little bit of social anxiety which seemed to start around the time of my awakening. I usually get nervous around unfriendly, ignorant groups of people, which happens a lot because I'm still in college lol.

The first step to overcoming anxiety is talking face-to-face with another awake/spiritual individual, and it's crucial that you don't hold anything back. After you have got all of this off your chest it's time to begin the journey of beating this; first you must identify what exactly it is that makes you anxious/nervous. Also, it's important that you remember the exact situation that all this stems from.

Second Step: Confront these circumstances as much as possible, and do this with your head held high and only good intentions. If you find yourself getting anxious simply take deep breaths through your nose and out your mouth while thinking about something beautiful. Eventually with enough exposure you will keep your nerves and improve your livelihood greatly.

A few other things, meditation is very helpful and a shrink can be a good person to talk to but I would personally never take any type of medication for this.

Max

[Robert J. Niewiadomski]

So many wise advices All i can add is wishing you all well!
I know you will all overcome your fear You are Creators
Thank you for being here and now...

[conk]

Yes, we are creators. The Hawaiian practice known as H'Oponopono holds that we create everything around us, everything. We are 100% responsible. Years of teaching and volumes of study can be distilled down to the key phrase: I'm sorry, please forgive me, thank you , I love you. Repeat this phrase over and over for each time you feel anxious. It works, it really does.

More intelligent, educated among us can explain the immense power of the words, the strength in the simple vibration of the sounds, and how they resonate in your heart. Showing gratitude and love are perhaps the most powerful actions that can be taken.

And as said above, let go of the need to change. What you resist, persists. Set your intention to be calm, but be willing to accept any state that manifests in a particular time.

More blessings, Conk

[Old Snake]

Debby,

When you have the guts &! a real good guide in the folowing ; you might go for a vision quest , 4 days no food no drink ,in a sacred/protected circle , meditate on your life , your most personal self ,all
other **** you leave behind you when you step in your protected circle,as a promise to yourself.

Power to you

Old Snake

[Butterfly]

Hi Debby

I find that being still helps me, just being at one with the moment, acknowledging and accepting how I am feeling whilst not allowing it to define me. I become the observer of my emotions but detach myself from them. Bringing feelings into my awareness often loosens the grip and power they have over me. Also knowing what triggers these moments of anxiety and panic may help you to squash them before they take you over. Monitoring when and where they occur and the thoughts you are having at the time may help you to get to the root cause or belief that generates panic and anxiety in you. This may be the starting point for you to find the answers you seek. Wishing you love and light

[Debby]

Wow, thank you all for your messages!! As some have mentioned the breathing, meditation ect. I have tried that but doesn't help.
The panic attacks are the worst while driving my car. This is playing for years now. But it has gotten worse. First it was the high way but last year it started on other roads aswell. Last week I couldn't even pick up my daughter from school which is just a few blocks away so i pulled over and walked. At school I justed lost it and an other mother asked me if i was alright and then I just started crying.I felt so awful, I think if you haven't been there it is hard to understand.I know there is no real fear and keep telling myself but my body takes over. I almost had an accident twice this year because of it. I avoid it now not only because I am scared for a panic reaction but also for putting others and myself in danger.
I think it may be because I avoid my feelings, dening myself.
You know what makes it so hard is the fact that you are like a bird in a cage. And it reflects every aspect in my life.Maybe when i break free myself everything will fall in place.
I do understand that some mentioned that is has to come from my inner, I know i have to do it myself. But there maybe some tools you guys can hand me.
Thank you all for the reactions and I know more people are dealing with this but find it hard to talk about. I haven't told many people about it, it is hard to accept being a basketcase when you have always been strong.

Love debby

[aranuk]

Posted by Debby (here)
Wow, thank you all for your messages!! As some have mentioned the breathing, meditation ect. I have tried that but doesn't help.
The panic attacks are the worst while driving my car. This is playing for years now. But it has gotten worse. First it was the high way but last year it started on other roads aswell. Last week I couldn't even pick up my daughter from school which is just a few blocks away so i pulled over and walked. At school I justed lost it and an other mother asked me if i was alright and then I just started crying.I felt so awful, I think if you haven't been there it is hard to understand.I know there is no real fear and keep telling myself but my body takes over. I almost had an accident twice this year because of it. I avoid it now not only because I am scared for a panic reaction but also for putting others and myself in danger.


I think it may be because I avoid my feelings, dening myself.
You know what makes it so hard is the fact that you are like a bird in a cage. And it reflects every aspect in my life.Maybe when i break free myself everything will fall in place.
I do understand that some mentioned that is has to come from my inner, I know i have to do it myself. But there maybe some tools you guys can hand me.
Thank you all for the reactions and I know more people are dealing with this but find it hard to talk about. I haven't told many people about it, it is hard to accept being a basketcase when you have always been strong.

Love debby

Debbie YOU ARE NOT A BASKET CASE. OK?. Sounds to me like acute stress. See a clinical psychologist. That helped me quickly. 3 sessions for an hour each. That was 35 yrs ago and it never recurred. Stress. BTW IT happened to me mostly if not exclusively whilst driving my car.

Stan

[Midnight Rambler]

Posted by Debby (here)
I do understand that some mentioned that is has to come from my inner, I know i have to do it myself. But there maybe some tools you guys can hand me.

I have had some therapy some time ago. There I learned that, although I wished i could just read a manual for my problem and solve it that way, there is no short term solution, I am sorry to say. I am a bit concerned that the tools you refer to are "tricks" to feel better, but my experience tells me that these tricks will, in the long run, trick you.

What helped me to overcome fear is mind my breathing. Hart coherence is created by doing breathing exercises.

Since you and I are both Dutch I will give you the Dutch links.

Link

I got started using this after reading this book

Uw Brein Als Medicijn

I hope this will help you.

BTW singing helps too. I always sing when driving and I don't care how out of tune it sounds. It gives me a great feeling of freedom when I sing along with my CD's .

[Seikou-Kishi]

Posted by Debby (here)
Wow, thank you all for your messages!! As some have mentioned the breathing, meditation ect. I have tried that but doesn't help.
The panic attacks are the worst while driving my car. This is playing for years now. But it has gotten worse. First it was the high way but last year it started on other roads aswell. Last week I couldn't even pick up my daughter from school which is just a few blocks away so i pulled over and walked. At school I justed lost it and an other mother asked me if i was alright and then I just started crying.I felt so awful, I think if you haven't been there it is hard to understand.I know there is no real fear and keep telling myself but my body takes over. I almost had an accident twice this year because of it. I avoid it now not only because I am scared for a panic reaction but also for putting others and myself in danger.
I think it may be because I avoid my feelings, dening myself.
You know what makes it so hard is the fact that you are like a bird in a cage. And it reflects every aspect in my life.Maybe when i break free myself everything will fall in place.
I do understand that some mentioned that is has to come from my inner, I know i have to do it myself. But there maybe some tools you guys can hand me.
Thank you all for the reactions and I know more people are dealing with this but find it hard to talk about. I haven't told many people about it, it is hard to accept being a basketcase when you have always been strong.

Love debby

The thing is Debby, anxiety is an irrational thing by its nature. It's like a phobia: you can't have a phobia of lions because a fear of lions is perfectly rational. If your anxiety had a rational basis, it wouldn't be a disorder, it would be a proper response. You can't blame yourself for feeling the way you do.

The thing is though, when you avoid things that cause anxiety, the anxiety only increases. That is why your anxiety has increased from just driving on the motorway to driving on lesser roads as well. I can't tell you how to face up to it though because I don't know myself. The only saving grace I have is that I feel anxiety for everything, so I can't always avoid it. I have never learned to drive a car because just thinking about being behind the wheel of a big vehicle makes me think I'd knock people over.

I am writing this post searching and searching in the darkest recesses of my memory to find some solution for you, and all I keep coming up with is my own inadequacies in that regard. I really wish I could find a solution for you because I know so intimately what problems you are facing. The thing about anxiety though is that you are strong. It's not that you've suddenly become weak; you are strong because you have to be strong. You have to be strong every day doing the smallest of things. There is no time to relax, no pause for breath. I so sincerely wish I had a solution for you, but all I have are commiserations.

[Asyloth]

If meditation didn't work for you Debby, it means you're not really meditating. Real meditation is not just closing eyes, it's trying to reach another state of consciousness, a state where you're kind of one with the universe, a state where your own persona disapears for a little while. Usually when I need it I make thirty minutes of it and after it's like I've slept a all night.
Meditation is a good way for me since it's something I've developped myself without ever having heard of it when I was somewhere between 10 and 12 years old. But I think there's no miracle way, each one has its own way to regain energy, sometimes I just listen to some musics I like, there are lots of ways, sometimes you just need to talk about it to people around you, sometimes it's more simple than we think to regain energy.

I think you internalize your wounds too much, maybe you should externalize your feelings more and take this weight off your shoulders, cause when you take weight over and over again without ever putting some down, sooner or later, it's too much, now I'm saying that but I'm not such an externalizer myself, but so far I'm able to handle it. Actually I think I've unconsciously desensibilized myself, I used to be someone very sensitive, not any more.

My mother (44 years old) also have anxiety crisis sometimes, when she becomes so panicked she can barely breathe, this is our time's plague, I think we need to change the way our society runs to cure that global (occidental) problem.

With all my affection,
All avalonians are with you that's something already
Greg

[sandy]

Dear Debby,

You don't have to answer me, but this may help. Ask yourself what decision you are avoiding because the consequences you perceive may be too threatening! I find that more often than not this has been my underlying problem and denying myself, my worth and value as well as my feelings was one way to avoid taking charge of something that seemed to big to tackle let alone overcome.

When I finally make a decision I feel confusion leaving and resources entering and one resource, one step and one day at a time I put a plan into place and with little confidence and much angst at first I begin the stages of creating what I need and want into my reality. It is hard work, painful and can be long and daunting but you sound like you have youth on your side and a child to love you and be with you along your chosen path.

I believe in me these days and I believe in you Now it is your turn !!! This thread is full of wonderful resources of which I have used and still use many along with much love and support for you.

Please know you are of as much worth as you little girl or anyone one else for that matter and please stop abandoning you and your very own little girl. I love you dear one

[Ontarioguy]

Hi there Debby! The above post by Sandy pretty much says it all for me. Thanks to you Sandy for lending your thoughts. They resonate with me and it is what I would have shared as well. Debby, having been friends on Avalon for a couple of years now, please know that I too "Believe in you". You can and WILL RISE ABOVE THIS!! No matter the situation. So many here are cheering you on to better days ahead!!! Much love and prayers beamed your way!

Ontarioguy

[Omni connexae!]

1. wot do u want 2 do?

2. wot do u want 2 do, that u aint doin?

3. do it.

4. Feel better.

[Darla Ken Pearce]

Sometimes we need outside help and assistance to get over the hard parts. I had a bout with my third chakra, thyroid, that had many of your same symptoms and they felt extreme and horrible to endure. Our third chakra controls our whole circulation system and it can mimic many serious illnesses as well and this can happen when our Pineal gland comes online as it was meant to over time. It's a good sign although no one could convince me of this fact either.

One thing of help was this invocation ~ not to mention medication for a time until I could overcome it on my own power and get it back into full balance. Balance is KEY. I offer it along with my blessings to you.

While I did not realize it at the time, this, too, is part of the ascension process of having our body change and the activation of all chakra's including some we are not even aware exist in our auric field outside our physical bodies. You are evolving which is part of this whole process. I found this knowledge to be helpful and also as many invocations and attunements as I could find. I have them all if you are interested PM me and I'll send them to you. Here is a powerful one to begin with:

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...one#post194347

[truth4me]

Ask yourself what the problem is and think positive. I will keep you in my prayers.....

[DNA]

Posted by Debby (here)
Thank you kersley,
I wish I had that trust in myself. I know the answers are there but how do you reach them/
Love debby

I had a lot of issues with trust in myself, paranoia and lack of confidence when I was a young man.
A series of synchronicities led me to these two books.

The first of which was "Born to win", which may sound cheesy, but I have had folks read it and come back to me and say it changed their life.
It deals with a lot of transactional analysis, and helps one understand the internal conflicts taking place within oneself that may not be resolved.
I never realized how many internal voices I had in conflict with one another creating stress and confusian within my psyche.



The next book that helped to put emphasis on this internal struggle was "the celestine prophecy".
The Celestine Prophecy is a story like parable that imparts the understanding that all interactions we have with one another are at the core energetic in their nature.
And this in turn led me to understand that my internal dialogue I was made aware of in "born to win" was a series of control dramas laid down through the devolopment of my life through parental punishement, scholastic socializing and peer pressure.
The Celestine Prophecy talks about the control dramas people use on one another to steal energy, but it is very easy to make the jump and realize we use those same control dramas on our self every day to feed portions of our awareness that are tramatized and bleeding spiritual energy.

[markpierre]

Hi Debby. I lived for 10 years from age 17 to 27 in acute panic. Existence really was just isolated to moments of anticipation of the next attack. Back then there wasn't much available on the subject and small town doctors were confident that Valium was the solution for anything that had anything to do with anxiety, so it went undiagnosed. Valium was intolerable to me, and that was a good thing, but sedation became an issue anyway. Self medication. You really can be grateful that you even know what it is. I thought it was madness.
But I regard my experience as a sort of training. (This is weird, I had this conversation this morning with a friend in this forum over coffee) Eventually I was so devastated after years of 'hanging on' to life, that I finally let go. "okay, take me". Dead couldn't be more uncomfortable than what was happening. It wasn't like a decision, but it could have been. As has always been my modus operandi, I hung on until I couldn't anymore.
So I learned to die. Eventually that became a method, and eventually the panic attacks dwindled in frequency and stopped. I'd let my heart race and anticipate it exploding, and sometimes have the most exquisite experiences of lifting up and floating that I thought I'd actually passed over.
It ended, but the value of the entire experience was never lost. It may have even been an acceleration of processing fear. I'd like to think that. Truck loads of fear I'd have to say.
I never understood if it was something wrong that needed to be 'fixed', or if it just was something I needed. It certainly impacted my inner life and my journey in a helpful way.

I believe the 'power' you expect to be able to access in yourself really is in yourself, but it's not 'of' yourself. It's being able to acquiesce to it, rather than command it. That's just my take on it, it may be one and the same.

Interestingly I had a recurrence of panic attacks during a recent period of extreme stress. The kind of stress you wonder how you survived. I remembered that technique, but it was incredibly disrupting to be walking down the aisle of a warehouse and suddenly be on my knees
struggling to stay conscious. I had to keep going, I had to endure it, maybe so that when I could safely collapse it was a complete enough collapse. I agreed to a course of antidepressants in the meantime, sort of an 'oh....all right' decision, and I have to admit that the panic subsided immediately. The drug was hell to get off of, but the panic never returned while I was using it. One of my teachers used to say "If you're sick, go to a doctor.". Strangely my fear of doctors was greater than my fear of sickness. You really only meet angels when you step into those scenarios. That's my experience anyway.

Now the doctors and psychologists will say that it's simply an errant message from the brain that triggers your 'fight or flight' mechanism. That it's no big deal. Still no answer that I've heard about the 'why' it occurs, but you might watch your diet for a while and see if your blood sugar has something to do with it. Stress can cause your pancreas to become over-reactive to sugars/carbs. Bare in mind that all these seemingly sudden changes in us and in the world, and the strangeness of this new energy has all of our senses on 'heightened alert'. We're all sharing this sensitivity, and it may well be that some of us will need that rush of adrenalin for a practical purpose.

Is that useful at all? I feel really strongly that you're okay, best wishes to you.

[Anchor]

Posted by Debby (here)
I don't post alot but am here everyday. I alway had alot of strength, as I had to deal with alot . That's ok, it's life. But now I am at a point that I don't have any strength which I need now! How do you find the power in yourself? I know I have it, I just to need it alot. But what do you do when you can't reach it? And the weakness takes over? One of the things I am dealing with is anxiety and really bad panic attacks, not just a little! And that is keeping me prison. I need that to go away so I have the strength to move on. I have tried emdr, healing seasons,Inositol Powder,hypnosis( that doesn't work for me cause they say I am to smart for that) ect.
I can't accept that this is ruling my life, I haven't gone through a hard life to end like this.
All advice and healing is welcome and if anyone can do a reading let me now,
Much love,
debby

I read this.... then I read the sig....

Have faith, my Child, have faith. Do not be bewildered. For you are beyond all things, The heart of all knowing. You are the Self. You are God. -Ashtavakra Gita 15:8

And I would just like to draw your attention to it

John..

[Anchor]

Further to my original email, and after some thought... You wanted a reading... Here is mine of sorts. Please note that this one is going to be heavily tinged with my own biases and prejudices and cannot be relied on as a gospel solution on a plate (which I am afraid to say, you are unlikely to get, until you figure some stuff out).

"Please recognize that there is an underlying root cause - none of this is happening without a reason.

You are comfortable with your independence and you are fighting over its loss.

The advice given about meditation in this thread is accurate in so far as it would benefit you to attempt to find your path to meditation, as it will help you then find your path to the power you seek.

If you find yourself having a panic attack in the car, pull over and mentally ask for help. We, your guides and other helpers are all here for you but can only really help when asked. The hands and strong arms are there to support you in the fabric of the "reality" in which we are all slowly "becoming" aware of our parts in creation and the truth of that.

Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you - Matt 7:7 KJV

The truth represents a scary scenario to the independence loving ego's with which we have been provided as learning yokes. Your fighting, but to win this war, you need to gather some more of the details about the battlefield.

In your meditations/thinking/reflection, please ask your self: what is it that is panicking? who is it that is panicking? Which components of my body are initiating the panicking? Why are they doing that?

The answers are within you.

At an intellectual level you know it. That is why you used the signature like the one that you currently use.

As you also asked for healing, please accept that which is offered here - but it is first aid. You have a few things you need to do in order to solve this completely"

John..