What technologies, activities or concepts will be made obsolete by Free Energy

[Ilie Pandia]

Hi Ernie,

While reading your post I was thinking that the "bad" being was a hungry entity, that has run out of juice on the road to a more suitable universe, and that your team, and most specifically Ariel, was actually helping along to put it back on the road

[Robert J. Niewiadomski]

Oh Ernie this is fantastic

[Ernie Nemeth]

Wasn't going to post another one for awhile but all this nasty fear mongering going on is making me think twice.
Maybe tomorrow... These visions are not prepared, they come out of me as is, on the spot.
I shake (vibrate) while I write them.
Whatever...

[Ilie Pandia]

Keep them coming Ernie, they are most welcome!

PS: It's wonderful that those posts just come to you so easily. I need to squeeze my brains pretty hard to write something on this thread

[Ernie Nemeth]

Three years later:

We always knew they were here but we did not understand how big "here" was.

I wave my hands at the vid screen to manipulate the images. There is an aspect of this project that I cannot quite get my head around. Using a combination of hand movements, thought and keyboard input I instruct the maud (mind augmentation device, ie. computer) to recalibrate, reorganize and reconstruct the images with the new parameters I just thought of.

Meanwhile, I turn to another portion of the screen to catch up on the news. The usual same old same old good news all around. Then I spot an unusual story about some new developments concerning the ancient earth grid researchers had uncovered. Since it had initially been discovered, experts in various fields had been trying to understand how it worked and its purpose. Seems they were onto something about extra-dimensional structures that were facilitating its function. These structures, which could not be seen by the naked eye, were overlayed on the earth's energy nodes. I am shocked to learn, as most of the researchers are, that there are hundreds of them on an unseen dimension parallel to our 3D world and that they are partly responsible for the explosion in human evolution and thought in the last twenty years.

I read on, mentally commanding the screen to scroll along.

The field produced by these structures and the ancient sites on the 3D earth are interconnected and are augmenting Mother Earth's natural aura. Between earth and the sun there is an interconnected series of energy vortexes very much like the seven chakras of the human body. Or rather, the chakra system of Gaia and the chakras of Sol were now understood to be in an intricate sort of dynamic balance. This much was already known. And more, each planet had this same sort of relationship with the sun. Together, the entire realm of the solar system was an interplay of forces that produced a protective shield around our local neighborhood. That is new, I thought. And it is now determined that the entire solar system has a interdependant but coherent field that resembled the chakras of our own bodies.

But there was a disturbance in the field, an extrasolar interloper was entering the system and altering the field by their very presence!

For more than a year now, no more alien beings had been found on planet earth. And while I had some small part in that, other intrepid souls had done the same work throughout the solar system - ridding our entire neighborhood of all non-intrinsic life forms. The Sol system had been cleansed and claimed by humanity as their own. There had been so many aliens on virtually every world, major and minor! Whenever I thought about it I was still amazed how we could have overlooked them for so many millenia. I know that there are researchers all across the solar system uncovering the artifacts that they were forced to leave behind. It was an accepted rule that such alien technology was not to be used - only catalogued and either cordoned off or removed and destroyed. Some of those technologies were purposely booby-trapped for nefarious purposes and so all had agreed that none of it was to be used for any reason. And none of this was for zenophobic reasons but simply because in most cases they were incompatible with humans and could cause great harm in the collective. We decided that we did not need them anyway. Our own creative minds were advancing us in leaps and bounds.

I send another command to the screen and now I watch in real time as this "craft" hurtles inward. With yet another thought a series of more intricate details overlay the view. The maud calculates the trajectory for me and I can see that on its present course it will arrive at earth within two days!

Shifting my gaze to yet another portion of the giant screen I see there are a number of propositions on how to respond to this unprecedented news. I first scan down the list of comments by various people. Some are now commenting on how maybe we were wrong in not developing some sort of interstellar defense against just such an intrusion into our space. Others think we could afford to prepare a regal welcome. A few recommend the immediate use of deadly force by combining our auric energies worldwide. That one I vote out right away.

Ariel chimes in on my private channel to see if I am watching and to look for her post. With a single thought the maud sorts through the millions of posts and finds hers. She is advocating an intermediate response. "Let them come", she says. "Let's see what their intentions are. We can always intervene later if needs be." Ariel's reputation carries a lot of weight due to her work not only on earth but all over the solar system. I vote for her suggestion and we carry the day. It is decided.

We will wait and see.

With that done I go back to work on my project. I glance over the new model the maud has just completed. I like it and call for a holographic display to be projected in front of me. I turn the model of the device this way and that. I make a few real-time adjustments and the maud updates the display. Satisfied I send a request to the nearest factory for a mock-up prototype. The estimated time for completion is one hour.

Just enough time to have a bite to eat.

[Wade Frazier]

Ah, you are serializing it, Ernie. Keep it up. I will expect the next installment soon.

[TelosianEmbrace]

With free energy the possibilities are endless. I saved reading through all of this thread when I could really sit down and enjoy it. Wade understands that it's not so much implementing the FE technology as the visualisation, the desire, the talking about free energy that gets us somewhere. I have found this. Reality is very fluid, conforming to our thoughts and desires. It is only after that they manifest on the material plane. A few notes-
*I am intuiting that Ernie wants to get it on with Ariel in his 'Anti Gravity Affection Enhancer'
* I like Ilie's quote "..The loneliness and empty eyes you meet in a crowded space.."
*Marcilia "Plants and stones will speak to us again.."
*JCocks on operations, "If we were meant to be operated on we would have been born with zippers.."
*I adore Onawah and others' ideas of floating dwellings, going where and wherever you wish, freeing up the surface. I would love to wake up in my little bubble at the bottom of the Marianas trench, and watching all the strange fishies swimming by.
One thing I don't think has yet been mentioned is longevity. With the demise of the Sickness industry, the cleaning up of pollution and the return to health and happiness, many of us will find that we will be able to live a whole lot longer, perhaps centuries or thousands of years, or however long we wish to remain in physicality.
Imagine food without impurities/poisons/GM. The succulent fruits, the simple act of eating will be orgasmic
The concepts of how to nurture the children and leave them to experience without being told off reminds me of Anastasia's childhood as related in the 'Ringing Cedars' series. Yet, this seems diametrically opposed to the way those of Telos raise their children, in an extended family. In Telos they have multiple sets of 'God Parents'.
There's seriously too much to cover here. I'll sit back and take a breath.

[Wade Frazier]

Thanks TelosianEmbrace for lending your awareness to this. Yes, once we eat live food as our staple, you are going to see healthier people, and longer lived. The male-based warfare model of “medicine” will disappear:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#paradigm1

Thanks for keeping this in your mind and heart. The more the better.

Best,

Wade

[TelosianEmbrace]

I would like to now answer the opposite of the question posed, because it will be so much easier. What etc. won't be made obsolete by free energy? In the short term, there are a few constants, though in the longer term perhaps these will also change significantly, or become redundant. We will still breathe, eat, drink, do number ones and twos, make whoopee, become parents, walk, watch, listen, smell, touch, talk, sing and dance.

[Ilie Pandia]

Hello TelosianEmbrace,

Of course those we will still do those things... but ask yourself... how will we do it ?

Yes we are breathing now... but in the major cities the air is polluted and you feel your lungs shutting down if you try to have a deep breath. On the mountain side... a totally different story You just can't get enough deep breaths.

Same goes for the food we eat and the water we drink. I remember as a child if a water was clear, it was safe to drink and it had a marvelous taste, it was alive! Tap water is a poor substitution for that. Just getting clear, pure and "alive water" (water from mountain springs) will have a major impact on our health for the better. And of course FE can easily do that.

Becoming parents... although I don't have any children I imagine often how I would raise some . And I'd very much like to do it in a FE society. Today's world is just preparing kids to be a cog in the system and that is very sad. In an abundant society I imagine parenting will be very very different! For one you would finally be able to give your child the attention it deserves and then let them explore the inner and outer world with no pressure to succeed... or to make you proud and so on.

Walking would be a favorite activity of mine in an abundant world. It already is now, and I imagine it could only get much better with clean air, and like minded people free of "the fear of survival" or "the next pay day".

Listen, smell, touch, talk, sing and dance. Yes we will continue to do those activities, no doubt about that, but they will have a new creative and sensitive side. Mostly because these artistic endeavors will not longer be subordinated to profit. And also we will be more relaxed and capable of enjoying life once scarcity will be an idea of the past .

[Wade Frazier]

Hi Ilie:

I don’t want to keep saying, “Amen!” to all of your posts, but when I see posts like that, I can envision the day that I retire from trying to get people to imagine abundance. My job will be finished. I will still write and such, but once enough of us can simply imagine a world of abundance, especially in comprehensive fashion, then I think that we are going to help make it happen. Then the fun will truly begin.

Best,

Wade

[TelosianEmbrace]

Wade, I am wondering about imagining in a comprehensive fashion a world of abundance, because once we have FE we will be able to visit the stars in our spaceships, and meet other beings. Each will be living a different vision of a FE society. Perhaps it's important to maintain a sense of fluidity in order to encompass the multiple physical manifestations of a FE society as pertains to differing societal/environmental circumstances. Now, if anyone can understand what I've just written, perhaps they can give me the short version.

[Robert J. Niewiadomski]

TelosianEmbrace, why not focus on imagining what it will be like right here? After all we are ETs with our own vision of our Home we call Earth Even tiny details like lack of wallets or no need to charge/replace batteries is part of that vision...

Sorry for being so trivial and down to earth

[Wade Frazier]

Hi all:

For somebody who has been living with the idea of FE since 1986, and took a few runs at making it happen, I happily admit that the human imagination at this time can only glimpse a small sliver of what a world based on FE will look like. And that is fine. There will be plenty of room for delightful surprise. Yes, one of the outcomes will likely be star travel, but it is apparently joined at the hip with other dynamics in interesting ways. We will not be allowed to “join the Federation” until we relinquish our warlike ways. That warlike nature is also, at its root, a big reason why we do not have FE today, because war reflects not only a resource lack, but a lack of integrity. Wars are always built on lies (lying also becomes obsolete in an FE society ). That is one of the reasons why I say that Young Warriors are a danger to any FE effort, because their delusions can be fatal to the operation, as Godzilla expertly and joyously exploits that weakness:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/camelot.htm#warriors

Young Warrior delusions of seeking an “enemy” to fight will also become obsolete in an FE-based world.

When I speak of a comprehensive perspective, I by no means am referring to all the aspects of what an FE-based society will look like. I am referring to Fuller’s conception of having a comprehensive vision:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/roots.htm#fuller

A comprehensive vision is needed to keep from disappearing down all the rabbit holes that await, and there are some deep ones:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/conun.htm#pitfalls

but if we walk that razor’s edge:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#stage1

I think we can get there.

Once people begin to develop comprehensive perspectives, they realize that energy runs the show on Earth and always has:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#chart

They understand the ways that energy scarcity has shaped our societies, our ideologies, and so forth. They also have an inkling of what FE can do to transform those things. For me, the FE journey would be one of constant discovery, and delightful discovery. I would not mind taking a little time to visit my galactic neighbors. I admit a bias in that I am hoping that FE catalyzes the human journey toward this future world:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/visions.htm#roads1

or at least for all the people who want to go there. For those who want to keep playing “kill-or-be-killed” and “I win, you lose,” then my understanding is that they can go there, too. That is definitely part of the struggle that is happening today. Ernie wrote on another thread that we do not seem to be able to simply imagine abundance. He is right, in that that has been our history, with our ancient indoctrination into scarcity. But, this thread is an example of imagining abundance. This activity is so scarce that it is the first time that I have seen it happen like this. I only hope that such imaginings become more abundant in time.

I have a little more writing to do this morning, so signing off for now. I will try my best to keep to the purpose of this thread and think of something else that will be made obsolete with FE and abundance. Let me think here….. OK, how about light pollution? Paradoxically, we think that the light pollution on Earth is due to abundant energy, but if we had FE, urban societies would decline, and lit urban environments would largely become obsolete. I sure would like to see the Milky Way from my home.

Best,

Wade

[Seikou-Kishi]

Posted by TelosianEmbrace (here)
Wade, I am wondering about imagining in a comprehensive fashion a world of abundance, because once we have FE we will be able to visit the stars in our spaceships, and meet other beings. Each will be living a different vision of a FE society. Perhaps it's important to maintain a sense of fluidity in order to encompass the multiple physical manifestations of a FE society as pertains to differing societal/environmental circumstances. Now, if anyone can understand what I've just written, perhaps they can give me the short version.

Actually that is a much better question. This thread is supposed to be about optimism, but when we ask what will become obsolete, we have to focus on the bad things we are leaving behind. Asking what will remain and what new things we will bring in with the advent of free energy is to focus on the positive.

[Ilie Pandia]

Perhaps now is the time to explain the choice of the title a bit.

I am fully aware is a "negative question" and I hope that we can end each post with a positive twist .

When I've created the thread I was noticing something that Wade talked about on his web side. Most of the humans have a deep, unconscious attachment to scarcity. (Just a small example: "I know is bad, but this 'bad' I know and I won't risk a change... not even for Free Energy! <- this thought is rarely expressed at the conscious level)

So I've chose to word the title like I did, to try and bring that up to the surface!

Another different example of what I mean: a "well to do" Wall Street trader will become obsolete in a FE society. A rich family, that enjoys the power and status that money brings will be gone in an abundant society. In fact if we look deep enough inside, almost any of us stands to lose something with the installment of Free Energy. This is a root problem, that we are not aware of.

Throughout this thread some of this unconscious fears have been expressed, and much better alternatives have been offered, because whatever we stand to "lose" now, what we stand to "gain" in a Free Energy world would be much much better. Only in comfort and life style we would dwarf the richest people of today. Of course Free Energy is not only about comfort.

So while this thread asks a negative questions, the challenge is to follow the answer through and get to a positive out come. Also the challenge is to observe how energy runs every aspect of our lives.

[Ilie Pandia]

For the last few days I've been helping with insulating a house. Thermal insulation (definitely an energy issue).

It was hard work for me. I usually call "work" typing tons of characters at a keyboard while sitting on a comfortable chair

Anyway, it was good work, in a much cleaner air at the country side. Thinking back at these last days, I can see scarcity creeping in every aspect of the work.

The men had to be extra careful not to break anything because we had no spares, some compromises were made to quality in order to lower the costs, and the light heartiness that we had in the morning was quickly wearing out.

So how would this look like in a Free Energy world?

Firstly, if the house design would prove to be faulty, it would be demolished and returned to the "element banks" for much better use of its component elements.

Next, a new structure would be erected, following the highest and latest standards in quality and design. Everybody working on the project would do so because there is nothing they would enjoy more than getting together on such a project, connecting with each other and building something they know will be very proud of!

If mistakes happen during the work nobody gets upset. They know it was a honest mistake and that everyone puts their best effort forward, because they like being here. So they learn from the experience and rebuild the broken part. If one member of the team has a new idea he wants to try out, if it fits with the original design he can safely try it. If it works, it will be incorporated in the future templates for similar work. If it does not, no problem, again some valuable lessons have been learned.

At the end of the project every is tired, but joyous, with a satisfying feeling of a "job well done!". They've had a marvelous experience, they got to know their friends better, they got to know themselves better and they are very happy with the result: a free energy powered house.

Of course that Free Energy tools were used. These tools are clean, mostly noiseless, environment friendly and self packing .

[araucaria]

Not a direct upshot of free energy maybe, but definitely a 'side effect' of the free energy revolution: one step I would hope to see is the deprofessionalization of many interpersonal jobs, such as psychologist, social worker, all kinds of counsellors, etc.

These tasks would not disappear, they would just slip into the background social setup.

In a similar vein, we would seen no more ghettoization of various groups (the elderly, the light-fingered, the sick...)

(Just adding fuel to this thread)

[Seikou-Kishi]

Maybe we all do stand to lose some things with the advent of free energy, but we all stand to gain so much more — I'm sure everybody on this thread agrees. I would happily lose everything for free energy.

[Wade Frazier]

Hi Seikou-Kishi:

First, I became aware of this thread today that you began (I did not become aware of it through Avalon):

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...Wade-himself--

and will respond soon. But, in brief, that story of mine is a story, not the story. Nobody on Earth really knows the story. Creation is way too big for our puny Earthly brains to comprehend anything but tiny slivers of it. We see through the glass very darkly here.

To your earlier comment that Ilie also responded to…

There are quite a few positive visions on this thread and mine:

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post299976

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post315176

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post312884

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post317223

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...ll=1#post97564

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post114629

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post180815

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post292702

And yes, leaving behind the “bad stuff” is part of the exercise that Ilie initiated here, but it is also bigger than that. Many of the things that are being brought up to leave behind are assumed to be part of “human nature” in many circles. Not so long ago, slavery was considered to be part of human nature, even divinely decreed. In societies that are industrializing, the vestiges of ancient exploitative ideologies that justify economic hierarchies, such as India’s caste system, are easily seen. In India, they are kind of trying to ignore the caste system in public discourse, kind of like how the USA tries to ignore racism in public discourse. It is not that they have completely disappeared, not by any means, but they can no longer be openly bandied about to justify exploitation. That is an improvement, for sure, but for me, what is nice about those changes is that ideologies like castes, racism, sexism and other “isms” are being discarded as being part of “human nature” and are being seen as aspects of the human condition that disappear when economic fortunes change for the better, and it is always rooted in energy consumption.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#chart

To your observation, I am all for creating a thread that is just for positive visions, at least largely positive. Ernie’s posts in rooting out the negative energies here with love I consider to be positive, although others may dispute that. Love could turn those energy predators into contented grazers, I think, but it would have to be some awfully advanced being to pull that off, at a Christ-like level. In the positive world that Roads visited:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/visions.htm#roads1

I think that negative beings cannot even get near the place. The vibe literally makes them sick. I have seen that kind of speculation in various mystical writings over the years, and have written about it myself:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#love

So, does anybody want to start a positive visions thread, or shall I?

Best,

Wade

Hi Ilie:

You are doing the work. The thinking that you were doing while working on that house is exactly the type of sentience that I am trying to encourage here. And I have good news. I believe that in the above-top-secret world they probably already have stuff like it, and the visiting ETs definitely do: most construction work like building a home will not involve any grunt work from people. Most of it is automated, and moving part technology, for instance, is pretty much obsolete at those levels. Of course, it can be hard to imagine such technology, but I once watched, many years ago, some UFO-ologists talking about what the problems that many people have of understanding the alien technology that has been witnessed. They said to imagine that a modern jet fighter plane landed on the White House lawn…..in 1865. Aluminum had not been commercially produced yet, plastics did not exist yet. Heck, man-powered flight would not have existed yet, nor would electronics. The pilot in his flight suit would have looked like an extra-terrestrial! Almost everything about the plane would have been virtually incomprehensible to the people of the day, and that is less than 150 years ago. Imagine an ET species that developed in an entirely different technological direction, with a “mere” few million year head start on us. Arthur C. Clarke said that any sufficiently advanced technology will look like magic to the people familiar with the less developed technology. And, of course, the science of consciousness is the greatest science of all, and today’s science has barely scratched the surface, and its White Science (the Black scientists know better) currently labors under the fatal delusion that consciousness is nothing more than a byproduct of chemistry. It is so easy to demonstrate how false that assumption is:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#brown

But materialism is a religion in our Young-Soul-dominated world:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#michael

so White Science sails down the blind alleys that it does, and the more materialistic of them may end up in this world:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/visions.htm#roadsblade

such are the hazards of the materialistic and paradoxically, egocentric, perspective.

Hi araucaria:

Yes, most of those helping professions would no longer be needed as such. The professionalization of helping each other has some big downsides. It would indeed be one of the “side effects” of FE. But, the social transformations are probably the biggest ones that humanity will experience. Our relationship Earth, our fellow creatures and our higher selves can be radically changed under an FE-based world, but the change in how humans interact with each other may be the biggest change of all, as far as our daily lives go. Such social transformations are probably not as much of a “side effect” as you think.

Best,

Wade