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    Amzer Zo...check out the airspace...you know where to find it, tell me what you don;t see....
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    Seems like they have alot of Tourists to be 'Ferrying' around on regular runs over and above and in addition to their published timetable..in the late night...
    What's the saying... "out of sight... "?

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    El Hierro seismographs have been off line for a while now, same for La gomera and La Palma... Sygh? Did you pay that bill?

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    Come on Sygh...... sort it out !! Fill the meter please,...I have some change lying around somewhere....
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    El Hierro seismographs have been off line for a while now, same for La gomera and La Palma... Sygh? Did you pay that bill?

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    Amzer Zo...check out the airspace...you know where to find it, tell me what you don;t see....[...]
    I see planes landing and taking off but I don't see no route/lanes... What am I missing?

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    Default Re: After tirelessly updating Avalon for weeks...it's official, evacuation is in prog

    Strongest EQ for the day (3.7):


    For the day:



    Refresh your browser to get the latest traces

    Dramatic change of scale, compressing the earlier graph to the bottom!

    How it's looking like now from La Frontera:

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    Default Re: After tirelessly updating Avalon for weeks...it's official, evacuation is in prog

    Its just quiet. Tenerife is even quiet on the streets.
    I checked the departures from UK destinations for holidaymakers to...and there are about 4 coming here from tomorrow morning. Looks like the Tourist are gong to Corfu and Ibiza
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    Amzer Zo...check out the airspace...you know where to find it, tell me what you don;t see....[...]
    I see planes landing and taking off but I don't see no route/lanes... What am I missing?

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    Goodnight Avalon

    9138 Registered so far, and 93 for the day.

    I will leave you with this... http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/site/?p...-SPI&uid=11480 Which is RSOE EDIS update


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    Quote Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
    El Hierro seismographs have been off line for a while now, same for La gomera and La Palma... Sygh? Did you pay that bill?
    HAhahahahaha!!! I wrote a post dated check.

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    Quote Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
    El Hierro seismographs have been off line for a while now, same for La gomera and La Palma... Sygh? Did you pay that bill?
    HAhahahahaha!!! I wrote a post dated check.
    Thank you, it seems that got it working again on the promise of making good...

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    Default Re: After tirelessly updating Avalon for weeks...it's official, evacuation is in prog

    Summary for the early morning:

    Evento------Fecha--------(GMT)*----Lat. --------Long. --Prof.--Mag.------------Loc.-------------Info

    1101657--03/10/2011--00:04:40--27.6358-- -18.0698-----18 ---1.7 ----SW FRONTERA.IHI--[+]

    1101674--03/10/2011--00:18:09--27.6580-- -18.0621-----16 ---2.1 ----SW FRONTERA.IHI--[+]

    1101677--03/10/2011--00:28:00--27.6444-- -18.0628-----16 ---1.8 ----SW FRONTERA.IHI--[+]

    1101678--03/10/2011--00:32:32--27.6375-- -18.0615-----14 ---2.4 ----SW FRONTERA.IHI--[+]

    1101682--03/10/2011--00:48:25--27.6547-- -18.0573-----15 ---1.6 ----SW FRONTERA.IHI--[+]

    1101683--03/10/2011--00:58:15--27.6316-- -18.0570-----15 ---2.5 ----SW FRONTERA.IHI--[+]

    1101693--03/10/2011--01:15:19--27.6298-- -18.0522-----15 ---2.4 ----SW FRONTERA.IHI--[+]

    1101686--03/10/2011--02:17:50--27.6425-- -18.0479-----13 ---2.9 ----SW FRONTERA.IHI--[+]

    1101692--03/10/2011--02:11:54--27.6229-- -18.0600-----16 ---3.5 ----SW FRONTERA.IHI--[+]

    1101713--03/10/2011--02:33:15--27.6151-- -18.0584-----16 ---2.3 ----SW FRONTERA.IHI--[+]

    1101710--03/10/2011--02:34:47--27.6262-- -18.0609-----14 ---3.4 ----SW FRONTERA.IHI--[+]

    1101714--03/10/2011--02:35:36--27.6236-- -18.0558-----15 ---3.2 ----SW FRONTERA.IHI--[+]

    1101716--03/10/2011--02:36:09--27.6274-- -18.0516-----15 ---3.1 ----SW FRONTERA.IHI--[+]

    See post # 645 for the seismograms.
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    Default Re: After tirelessly updating Avalon for weeks...it's official, evacuation is in prog

    We could really use an oversite. Would like to see this seizmic disturbance travel further out to sea, if possible. Not thinking ball of lava, as announced, thinking flow. Let it flow.

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    We could really use an oversite. Would like to see this seizmic disturbance travel further out to sea, if possible. Not thinking ball of lava, as announced, thinking flow. Let it flow.
    That would be good for the island.

    What would need to happen first is that some of the magma chamber (ball of magma) escapes to the surface which is not yet happening since that chamber seems to be progressing southward as the days go by.

    Hence, if any lava flow to occur on the sea floor, it would be further and further at sea where the oceanic crust is thinner.

    With the red dots pinpointing the location of the most recent EQs both with respect to surface (top diagram) and depth (bottom part) one can get an idea of the southward migration of the chamber:


    If IGN could generate a North-South section instead of an East-West... that would be perfect!
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    We could really use an oversite. Would like to see this seizmic disturbance travel further out to sea, if possible. Not thinking ball of lava, as announced, thinking flow. Let it flow.
    That would be good for the island.

    What would need to happen first is that some of the magma chamber (ball of magma) escapes to the surface which is not yet happening since that chamber seems to be progressing southward as the days go by.

    Hence, if any lava flow to occur on the sea floor, it would be further and further at sea where the oceanic crust is thinner.

    With the red dots pinpointing the location of the most recent EQs both with respect to surface (top diagram) and depth (bottom part) one can get an idea of the southward migration of the chamber:

    Yes, that was what I was looking for, I wanted to see the southward progression. I'm thinking of the flow of lava underground, continuing south, and not into the ocean just yet. Would rather see an opening crevasse, a fissure. An elongated vent. Randles made reference to a graph that showed the sea levels during the glacial periods so there should be some fissures. The topography is uneven enough and there have definitely been enough earth tremmors and quakes to cause a fissure. We'll know, if it travels a little farther south.

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    The Canary Islands are presumably the results of the activity of a hot spot (aka Mantle Plume) coming from deep within the Earth mantle and melting the above wandering crust in much the same way that a blow torch would melt and cut through a sheet of metal, excepted that in this case the blow torch is considered fixed and it's the sheet of metal that's moving over it.

    This mechanism is also what created Hawaii and adjacent islands:

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    The recent ages determined for the islands of the Canary indicate a similar wandering as in Hawaii:

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    Another known famous hot spot is Iceland; and what's happening there can give one an idea of what may, or may not, happen to El Hierro Sea of Calm in our life time:


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    Randles made reference to a graph that showed the sea levels during the glacial periods so there should be some fissures. The topography is uneven enough and there have definitely been enough earth tremmors and quakes to cause a fissure. We'll know, if it travels a little farther south.
    The sea level diagram I posted a while back:

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    Was there to demonstrate that the major landslides which occured from El Hierro collapsing had little to do with earth quakes as the determining factor but rather with a major climate change: from utterly dry and cold to warm and presumably wet.

    That happened twice in a row: major landslide at the end of a major glaciation.

    Therefore it can be extrapolated that the next major collapse of El Hierro (although currently there isn't much left of it to generate a major collapse) is likely to occur at the end of the next glaciation period!

    To answer your concern, for the moment, the magma hasn't followed any of these pre-existing cracks and fissures upward; only laterally.
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    Smooth Flow....Natural movement of flow..
    Goodmorning
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    We could really use an oversite. Would like to see this seizmic disturbance travel further out to sea, if possible. Not thinking ball of lava, as announced, thinking flow. Let it flow.

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    Default Re: After tirelessly updating Avalon for weeks...it's official, evacuation is in prog

    Superstar !!
    I think that it is wonderful that we are able to 'track' this event, and watch in amazement as Polly moves on encouraged by the conscious light of Avalonians here, willing her On Her Way, to a safer passage.
    This is something that has been able to be done here on Avalon, with Education, Focus and the Support of You !!
    Thank You Amzer Zo
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    Randles made reference to a graph that showed the sea levels during the glacial periods so there should be some fissures. The topography is uneven enough and there have definitely been enough earth tremmors and quakes to cause a fissure. We'll know, if it travels a little farther south.
    The sea level diagram I posted a while back:


    Was there to demonstrate that the major landslides which occured from El Hierro collapsing had little to do with earth quakes as the determining factor but rather with a major climate change: from utterly dry and cold to warm and presumably wet.

    That happened twice in a row: major landslide at the end of a major glaciation.

    Therefore it can be extrapolated that the next major collapse of El Hierro (although currently there isn't much left of it to generate a major collapse) is likely to occur at the end of the next glaciation period!

    To answer your concern, for the moment, the magma hasn't followed any of these pre-existing cracks and fissures upward; only laterally.


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    Default Re: After tirelessly updating Avalon for weeks...it's official, evacuation is in prog

    Good morning randles!

    Seems like the acitvity has quieted down quite a bit... so, it may be a quiet day to prepare for a night partying again?
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    Good Morning Amzer Zo !!
    Heres hoping for many quiet day
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    Seems like the acitvity has quieted down quite a bit... so, it may be a quiet day to prepare for a night partying again?

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    http://www.diarioelhierro.com/

    "ESPECIAL CRISIS SÍSMICA - 3/10/2011 (06:30 horas)
    ESTE LUNES, 3 DE OCTUBRE"


    "El Hierro recorded 31 earthquakes, one of 3.4 degrees"


    "SERGIO GUTIERREZ, DiarioElHierro.es, Valverde (10.03.2011. 06:30 hours)

    The island of El Hierro has counted up to 04:19 hours (5:19 hours canaria) this Monday, October 3 a total of 31 earthquakes, all located at a depth of between 13 and 18 km depth and magnitude between 1.5 and 3.5 magnitude on the Richter scale.

    According to the National Geographic Institute (IGN) collected by DAILY IRON, of the 31 earthquakes recorded on Monday in El Hierro, the largest was a 3.5 magnitude, although not collect IGN page that has been felt by the population . However, it stands as perceived by the inhabitants of El Hierro detected the quake at 02:34 (03:34 hours canaria), of 3.4 magnitude on the Richter scale. This earthquake was located in the direction of the zone-Julan The Calm Sea, 14 kilometers deep.

    With this, there are now five earthquakes greater than 3 degrees recorded by IGN this Monday, October 3, but only one has been felt by the population, according to data from the Geographic.

    The last earthquake felt, of magnitude 3.7, occurred also in the El-Mar Julan Las Calmas, at a depth of 15 kilometers and at sea."

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