Where are all the Crashed UFOs ­- and their Alien Occupants?

[KiwiElf]

Where are all the Crashed UFOs ­- and their Alien Occupants?




Shortly after Kenneth Arnold coined the term "flying saucer" in 1947, there have been growing rumours that the US government ­- and others ­- have a number of crashed UFOs and alien bodies in their possession, and have been secretly reverse-engineering alien technology ever since.

Increasing evidence and events have continued to support these extraordinary allegations, many from highly reputable military and intelligence people - eyewitnesses who have been steadily coming forward in growing numbers since the 90s. So where did it all start?.

3 July I947, Roswell, New Mexico
Probably the most infamous of all, on the 3 July I947, Roswell, New Mexico, a rancher by the name of Mac Brazel, found extraordinary metallic foil-like debris scattered over his land. A few days later, 240 kilometres away near Socorro (just North of White Sands Missile Base), an engineer and some archaeologists came across the remains of a strange V-wing-shaped UFO, together with four, small grey alien bodies. According to eyewitnesses, two of these beings were dead, one was dying, but the other was alive.

The military arrived shortly after, took control, publicly announced that the object was simply a weather balloon - although originally verifying a "crashed disk" in an official press release - and nothing more was really heard of the matter, until William Moore, Stanton Friedman and Charles Berlitz took up the story in 1976: a single case that was to become famous: the "Roswell Incident". At the time of writing, over 350 witnesses, including the late Major Jesse Marcel, his son, military and medical personnel involved, had come forward.

By the late 90s, the popularity of the story grew to the stage that the US Airforce attempted a further debunking by producing "proof" in the form of hundreds of pages of declassified documentation of their "Secret Mogul Balloon" Project, backed-up by storys in "serious media" and heavyweights such as TIME magazine.

However, the "second official explanation" crumbled when Colonel Philip J. Corso dropped a bombshell on the UFOlogy world & general public in 1997 when he published his book, "The Day After Roswell' (co-written with William J. Birnes - available as an eBook and downloadable as a PDF here on Avalon - click link below).

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...117#post639117

In his book, Corso details how he administered and distributed ("seeded"), the alien technology to various US companies such as IBM, Hughs Aircraft, EG&G, Bell Labs & Dow Corning, (without their knowledge that it was "alien"), who went on to develop devices such as integrated circuit chips, lasers and fibre optics. The key areas the US military were looking for were the propulsion system, night vision equipment, super tenacity fibres (Kevlar) and classified discoveries such as psychotronic devices that can translate human thoughts into signals that control machinery, Stealth technology and "Star Wars" type particle beam devices.

This revelation only seemed to enlarge the "legend of Roswell" to global proportions, spawning popular media stories, the blockbuster movie, "Independence Day" and featured in an entire series ("Roswell") and guested stories in everything from satirycal spoofs, cartoons and STAR TREK.

45 years later, the driving force and belief behind this single event and coverup is now stronger than ever. Roswell just won't go away.

So even though Roswell was the first publicly proclaimed crash and coverup, history now suggests that there were both earlier and later, less-well known UFO crashes and ET contact. These other cases, uncannily similar in some respects, are plentiful with over 50 documented examples. Here are just some of them:

April, 1897 Aurora, Texas, USA
There was a report of an "airship" - a strange unidentified flying object - that crashed into a windmill on the property of a local Judge, J. S. Proctor. The ship exploded in flames and was essentially burned to a crisp. Amongst the debris field, were the charred remains of what appeared to be an alien - described as "unworldly" by witnesses. The being was given a Christian burial and put in an unmarked grave. Witnesses also claim that the debris was recovered by local law enforcement and never seen again. Others claim that Judge Proctor buried the debris at the bottom of a large well.

For decades, the incident remained largely forgotten, until, in 1945, a man named Brawley Oates purchased Proctor's land and was reportedly cleaning out the debris from the well, when he later developed a severe case of arthritus which he claimed to be the result of the contaminated water, (which was so severe it later killed him). As a result, Oates sealed up the well with a concrete slab and placed an outbuilding atop the slab. (According to writing on the slab, this was done in 1957).

1936, Freiburg, Germany
In his 1993 book, "Secret Societies and Their Power in the 20th Century", author Jan Van Helsing claims that in 1936, residents of the small village of Freiburg in Germany, awoke to the sound of what appeared to be an enormous aircraft crash in the nearby Black Forest. Van Helsing states that within hours, Hitler's SS team discovered the wreckage of what appeared to be a strange disk-shaped craft and the remains of alien bodies which were immediately removed to a secret Nazi Castle for examination. There, Nazi scientists set about the task of reverse-engineering the technology, and by all accounts, with the help of scientists Schreiver, Habermohl, Miethe & Victor Schauberger, appear to have been successful in the development of several "flying saucer" type craft using both conventional and unconventional power plants, throughout and after WWII. (That's another story itself - The One has a great post here).

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...ril-technology

... and Jan van Helsing's book (above), is downloadable as a PDF here:

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...481#post645481

1941, 1st US retrieval - off the coast of San Diego
The US Navy allegedly recovered their first crashed alien craft in 1941 in the ocean west of San Diego. The ship and alien bodies were taken to Wright-Patterson AFB for study. (The US Navy has held a leadership position in UFO matters since. eg, Groom Lake/Area 51 is a NAVY facility, not airforce).

7 July 1948, near Del Rio, Texas, USA
Unusual radar sightings led to the suspicion that a UFO had crashed some 50 kilometres across the Mexican border. With permission from the Mexican government, US troops went to investigate, and found a metallic disc, with the burned bodies of the humanoid crew, measuring about 1.5 metres tall. The UFO, which had been clocked at 3,200 km/h by radar, had been simultaneously seen on radar by USAF Colonel Whitcomb in an F84 fighter. He landed at his home base and immediately took off for the scene in a borrowed light aircraft. He found Mexican troops in control, and the "object" hidden from sight.

A naval intelligence officer arrived in time to see the crash area roped off and the UFO being loaded onto trucks by troops. The troops taking part were apparently warned that if they spoke of the matter they would be "the sorriest people around".

1950, Frank Scully releases book, "Behind the Flying Saucers"
In the early 1950s, an American writer named Frank Scully brought out a book titled, "Behind the Flying Saucers" (a recently updated & revised edition reinvestigating the case is available from Amazon - KE), which became a sensational best seller in both the USA and Europe. Despite being labelled as a total fabrication at the time, it seems a remarkable coincidence that in retrospect, Scully appears to have been so accurate in his descriptions which correlate with more recent evidence (ie the famous Aztec crash), and technological advancements.

Scully claimed that between 1947 and 1949, the American military recovered three UFOs - and their alien crews.

The first saucer, measuring 99.99 feet - he was quite specific about this - reportedly settled to Earth out of control on a hilly plateau approximately 12 miles East of Aztec, New Mexico. It was disassembled and taken away in military trucks for further analysis. It was constructed from an unknown alloy that resisted any form of scratching, drilling or burning, and yet was extremely light in weight. Some of the metals were identifiable, others were not. Apparently, over-zealous technicians broke much of the craft's control systems, which appeared to be push-button consoles, and instruments which measured magnetic lines of force.

Sixteen dead, burned bodies were reportedly removed from this ship. Scully described the bodies as being scaled-down, perfectly human-looking males (not the "greys") with heads slightly larger in proportion to humans, perfect teeth and virtually no body hair, and measuring between 36 and 42 inches in height.

He also described "time pieces" that the aliens wore on their wrists which bore remarkable similarities to todays modern LCD watches. They all wore uniforms without buttons or zippers, but on closer inspection revealed fastening strips of tiny hooks and loops (Velcro?). The material resisted flames and cutting and, like the ship itself, appeared almost indestructible. A type of heavy water was also found on the ship.

The second saucer, measuring 72 ft, landed near one of the military proving grounds in Arizona. This also had sixteen small, dead alien bodies inside, and was similar in design to the first.

The third UFO came down in Paradise Valley, above Phoenix, Arizona. This ship was only 36 ft in diameter but in every way similar in proportion to the others, and carried a crew of two, also dead. The reasons for their deaths was a mystery, but it was concluded a result of suffocation, possibly due to incompatible atmosphere and/or pressure.

It was alleged that the top scientists from America and around the world had been called in to study the vehicles in order to solve their methods of propulsion, which they concluded was magnetic in principle, and mathematically based on a system of nines.

When one draws out the dimensions of the 99.99 ft craft, the profile exactly matches the UFO photographed by press photographer, Ed Keffel, on 7 May, 1952 over Barra da Tijuca, Brazil. (Below)



(In 1968, Captain Bruce Cathie concurred some remarkable mathematical data on these ships in his book, "Harmonic 33", and the relationship of nines to universal magnetic waves and harmonics. This also tied-in perfectly to Cathie's theories (now fact), on a magnetic energy grid system around the Earth which lead him to write several books on his discoveries in the "Harmonic" series, starting with the groundbreaking "Harmonic 33". It is well documented that the US government began taking a serious interest in Cathie's work from that point onward).

1952, at the Muroc Air Force Base in California
A USAF radar operator tracked an object descending towards Earth at great speed. After a crash had been confirmed, he was instructed "You didn't see anything." Later he learned that a UFO, more than 16 metres in diameter, had crashed in a desert area not far away. It was metallic, badly burned, and contained bodies of beings about 1.5 metres tall. The debris was allegedly kept for a while at the base, then shipped to the Wright-Patterson Air Force Base at Dayton, Ohio. There is strong evidence that at this time, some object was indeed secretly shipped to the Wright-Patterson air base.

Possibly relating to the same incident is a film that was shown the following spring, apparently by military authorities, to a select group, including a radar specialist, a Mr "T.E.", who was working for the army and air force, stationed at Fort Monmouth, New Jersey, and who had secret security clearance. The five-minute movie showed a silver disc-shaped object embedded in the sand in a remote desert area; it had a dome on top and an open hatch. Some 10 to 15 military personnel could be seen standing near the craft, and its diameter, based on a comparison of its size with that of the human figures, appeared to be 5 to 7 metres in diameter.

The film also showed the bodies of three dead occupants. They were small and human-like, with over-large heads. The viewers were told to think about the film but not to tell anyone about it. Two weeks later, they were told it was a hoax. This seems strange, for there is a certain amount of evidence that the film was shown to officers at a number of military bases. Clearly someone, somewhere, felt that it was important for them to see it.

A hoax seems all the more unlikely because, quite apart from the poor quality of the film, which - paradoxically - tends to suggest it is genuine, the cost in time and effort of setting up so elaborate a fake would have been formidable. (The bodies from these incidents more closely match the alleged alien bodies - the "orange" species - shown in the infamous Santilli Alien Autopsy footage shown worldwide in the late 1990s, not Roswell. Santilli himself recently admitted it was "partly fake" and created around the few surviving "real" film cells. Another case of fiction based on fact, which did little for the credibility of the film. Despite this, a great deal of the Santilli "evidence" appears to still hold up).

June 1952, Spitzbergen
In June 1952, six Norwegian Army jets on summer manoeuvres over the bleakly inhospitable islands of Spitzbergen spotted wreckage in a mountain area near the Hinlopen Straits. Within hours, using ski-planes, Norwegian investigators were on the site. A Soviet vehicle or missile was suspected, but instead they found the wreckage of a disc-shaped object, with 46 jet-like orifices on the rim and made of an unknown metal. There was no trace of occupants.

The most remarkable aspect of this incident is the comment of a high-ranking army officer, Colonel Gernod Darnbyl of the Norwegian general staff, who in 1955 said, "The crashing of the Spitzbergen disc was highly important. Although our present scientific knowledge does not permit us to solve all the riddles, I am confident that these remains from Spitzbergen will be of utmost importance. Some time ago a misunderstanding was caused by saying that this disc probably was of Soviet origin. We wish to state categorically that it was not built by any country on Earth. The materials used in its construction are completely unknown to the experts who took part in the investigation." He added that, "American and British experts were being consulted." Nothing has been reported on this incident since.

1953, Kingman, Arizona
An affidavit signed in 1973 by a certain Fritz Werner - a pseudonym, although his true identity is known - stated that he had assisted at the investigation into a crashed UFO while serving as project engineer on an air force contract near Kingman, Arizona, in 1953. Along with some 15 others, he was taken early one morning under strict security conditions in a blacked-out bus on a five-hour journey. They were told that a super-secret air force craft had crashed, and that each of them was to investigate the crash in terms of their specific field of expertise.

Werner described the object as like two deep saucers, one inverted on the other, about 10 metres in diameter, made of dull silver metal, with an open hatch to the interior. His particular task was to calculate the object's impact velocity from the traces. He found no landing gear, also no dents or scratches. In a tent nearby he saw a dead humanoid on a table, about 1.3 metres in height. Not only were the investigators instructed to tell nobody of the incident, they were not even allowed to discuss it amongst themselves.

Also in I953, a metallurgist named Daly - who worked at the Wright-Patterson AFB, Ohio - described being blindfolded and taken to an unidentified location. For two days, he examined the structure of a silvery metallic craft lying undamaged in the sand. He concluded it was not of earthly origin, but saw no sign of any occupants.

Despite the evident discrepancies, these two reports may relate to the same incident. Relevant, too, may be the evidence given by the wife of a guard at Wright-Patterson. She alleged that, at this time, her husband witnessed scientists examining the bodies of large-headed humanoids, about 1 metre in height.

1955, Wright-Patterson Base
Another incident, two years later, at the Wright-Patterson base, may confirm that alien bodies were taken there for examination. A woman whose duty was to catalogue all incoming material relating to UFOs stated that she saw the bodies of two dead humanoids, about 1-1.5 metres tall, with large heads, being transferred from one location to another.

March 1964, Mount Chitpec, Mexico
In March 1964, a round, flat UFO, giving off a bright blue and orange light, reportedly crashed high on Mount Chitpec, Mexico. Officials wanted to take it to the nearest town, San Cristobal de las Casas, but the local tribe, the Chalulas, insisted it was a gift from God and the Virgin, and refused to allow its removal.

April 1976 issue of "Official UFO" magazine
In the pages of the April 1976 issue of Official UFO (at that time a fairly serious journal), an article appeared entitled, "What about crashed UFOs?", by the widely respected investigator Raymond Fowler. Instead of serving up the vague rumours of the past, he produced dramatic new evidence in the form of a technician's sworn statement that he had personally examined a crashed UFO at Kingman, Arizona, on 21 May, 1953. From then on, interest in the subject has became both more serious and more intense.

6 May I978, in Tarija, Bolivia
On 6 May 1978, in Tarija, the most remote and inaccessible part of Bolivia, witnesses saw a glowing UFO cross the afternoon sky. It was described as a metallic cylinder, some 7-8 metres in length without windows or structural details. It was closely followed by another, smaller object. A few seconds later there was the sound of a great explosion, accompanied by an "earthquake" that was registered on seismic equipment over some 200,000 square kilometres. After the crash, the smaller object was seen to fly away.

While speculation bubbled in the press, a security blackout was officially imposed. Reporters saw the object removed by technicians, and asserted that it had been taken by the United States Air Force back to NASA, who deny being involved to this day.

December 1980, The Rendlesham Forest, UK Incident
Is the name given to a series of reported sightings of unexplained lights and the alleged landing of a craft or multiple craft of unknown origin in Rendlesham Forest, Suffolk, England, in late December 1980, just outside RAF Woodbridge, used at the time by the U.S. Air Force. Dozens of USAF personnel were eyewitnesses to various events over a two- or three-day period. Some ufologists believe it is perhaps the most famous UFO event to have happened in Britain, ranking amongst the best-known UFO events worldwide. Along with the Berwyn Mountain UFO incident, it has been compared to the Roswell UFO incident in the United States, and is sometimes referred to as "Britain's Roswell".

1989, Bob Lazar and Area 51
In the 1980's up until the present time, Robert Lazar, an engineer and scientist, maintains that he had been studying several different captured alien UFOs at the infamous Groom Lake/Area 51/S4 bases in the Nevada desert, home of the stealth bombers, and probably the most highly secret and guarded underground military base in America.

Although he doesn't claim to have seen any aliens, Lazar states emphatically that these craft are definitely "not from this world," and that the American Government has been secretly test flying alien spacecraft at the base, and reverse-engineering the technology for years. Other witnesses, and some tantalizing video footage, so far verify his allegations and stories continue to abound of underground UFO bases in other parts of America and around the world.




Since Lazar's startling claims, and the controversy following them, other whistleblowers have also come forward, some from the infamous Area 51-Groom Lake-S4 bases.
(This has been corroborated by the testimonies of Philip Corso, William (Bill) Milton Cooper, Phil Schneider, Dr Michael Wolf, William Schratt, etc) - related links are here:

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...Secret-S4-Base

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...475#post318475

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...-Space-Program

1989, Kalahari Desert, South Africa
In 1989, the South African Air Force intercepted and shot down a UFO after it failed to answer repeated communications. The military recovered the wreckage of a metallic disc, and its alien occupants described as being 1.2 metres in height, with four webbed digits on the hands and feet, grey-skinned with large heads and large black eyes. (It is interesting to note that one of the two French-built Mirage fighters responsible for shooting down the UFO was apparently armed with a wing-mounted, new type of experimental "laser cannon," known as a "MASER" - the Molecular Amplifier for Microwave Radiation).

24 November 1992, at Long Island, New York
On the night of 24 November 1992, at Long Island, New York, residents witnessed and observed a huge fire that blazed for three days after the crash of an "unidentifiable aircraft" in a remote corner of South Haven Park. The area was cordoned-off by military-looking personnel, driving unmarked black jeeps and vans, and flying unmarked black helicopters. The local police were kept away from the scene, and even though the Long Island Fire Department were seen in attendance, they deny this at the highest level, despite several fireman stating that they fear for their lives if they discuss the matter. The media later rumoured that a top-secret stealth fighter had crashed.

However, studies of the area revealed some unexplainable facts: fallen trees in the area had become highly "magnetised," a surrounding electric fence had strangely reversed its magnetic fields, and a fire cone and radiation suit were found hidden in the woods - and no-one at an official level wants to talk about it.

Following the Long Island incident, video footage was anonymously sent to the American TV "Encounters" investigatory team by an "insider," and someone who simply called himself, "Guardian." The video showed the wreckage of what appears to be a burning disc-shaped craft taken from the air - allegedly of the burning UFO in South Haven Park; and a night landing of an obviously disc-shaped craft, taken in Ontario, Canada.

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...dian-UFO-video

20 January, 1996. Varginha, Brazil
On the afternoon of 20 January, Brazilian military forces allegedly captured two live but injured aliens in the neighbouring areas of the city of Varginha, Brazil after three girls observed one of the creatures hiding in bushes near their home. Military personnel from the Army Internal Intelligence allegedly moved one of the alien bodies to a military facility in Campinas, were it underwent an autopsy at the Campinas University, some 200 miles from Varginha.



In the last decade, we have seen remarkable photographs and video of a UFO being buzzed by a military fighter jet, infra red video of UFOs being followed by Belgian Airforce military jets, numerous "anomalies" videoed from Space Shuttle Missions and the ISS, and a huge boomerang-shaped UFO seen over Phoenix and witnessed by thousands across several states of the US.

We have heard numerous accounts, witnessed hundreds of videos and photographs of secret "stealth aircraft and "UFO" designs (ARV's - Alien Reproduction Vehicles), reports of HAARP type weapons and immense underground bases utilising exotic energy's made here on Earth - ALL allegedly reverse-engineered technology from downed alien craft, at a staggering cost estimated in the Tens of Trillions of dollars.



And finally, and probably the most startling of all, as we approach the end of 2011, huge "UFO fleet flyovers" are appearing from all over the world in growing numbers on popular media and YouTube. The list goes on... and the proof is becoming inescapable.

These cases represent only a few of the most well-known examples and have been presented with a minimum of comment. To assert that every one of these allegations is a lie, or a misinterpretation of some simple event, is to call in question thousands of witnesses, and the important research work and revelations from the the likes of Dr Steven Greer (CSETI Disclosure Project), Linda Moulton-Howe, Dr Michael Wolf, Colonel Philip Corso, Richard C Hoagland, Phil Schneider, David Wilcock, Bill Cooper, Michael Schratt, NASA astronauts and employees and recent "whistleblowers," many unknown to one another, yet many of them wholeheartedly trusted by experienced investigators.

Their accounts all disturbingly point in the same direction: the equivalent of a "Cosmic Watergate" of multi-Trillion-dollar proportions, possibly involving elements of almost every major power and government on this planet.

NOTE: With the exception of the Ed Keffel image, Photos are for illustrative purposes only

[KiwiElf]

Here is a chronological listing for further research - not necessarily complete - please feel free to add. Cheers KiwiElf

1884 December 13 Sorisole, near Bergamo, Italy
1897 April 17 Aurora, Texas
1897 April 19 Leroy, Kansas, USA
1907 Burlington, Vermont, USA
1908 June 30 Tunguska River, USSR
1910/1915 Puglia Italy
1923 Quetta, Pakistan
1925 Chevy Chase, Maryland, USA
1925 Sept/Oct Polson, Montana
1930 Mandurah, West Australia
1933 Italy
1936 Black Forest, Germany
1938 summer Czernica, Poland
1941 West of San Diego, Ca
1941 Spring Cape Girardeau, Missouri
1941 July 4 Tinian Island, Oceania
1945 Somewhere in the UK
1945 Mataquescuintla, Guatemala
1946 Magdalena, NM
1946 July 9 Lake Barken, Sweden
1946 July 10 Bjorkon, Sweden
1946 July 18 Lake Mjosa Sweden
1946 July 19 Noon Lake Kolmjarv, Sweden
1946 August 12 SW Sweden
1946 August 16 Malmo Sweden
1946 mid-October Southern Sweden
1947 January Papagos Indian Reserv. AZ NEW
1947 May Spitzbergen, Norway Newspaper articles, cover up, 17 bodies.
1947 May 31 Socorro, New Mexico
1947 July Near St. Joseph, MO

1947 July 4 Roswell, New Mexico, USA - foil-like debris recovered on Mac Brazel's Ranch
1947 July 5 Plains of San Augustin, Socorro, New Mexico, USA - 4-5 bodies, one live ET?
(These two incidents represent the well known Roswell Incident which were actually in two crash locations.

1947 July 31 Maury Island, Tacoma, USA.
1947 August 13 Hopi Reservation, Arizona
1947 October 2 Cave Creek, Arizona, USA
1947 October Paradise Valley, Arizona, USA
1947 October 20 San Diego , California
1948 Kingman, Arizona, USA

1948 February 13 Aztec, New Mexico, USA, 12-16 alleged bodies recovered
1948 March 25 White Sands, New Mexico, USA
(These two incidents may be the same, and recent re-investigation have linked them to one of the crashed saucers described in Frank Scully's book, "Behind the Flying Saucers" - see video link below, Post #16)

1948 7/8 July Near Laredo, 38 miles inside Mexico, Bodies recovered.
1948 August Laredo, Texas, USA 1 body recovered
1949 Roswell, NM, USA Not the famous case of 1947.
1949 August 19 Death Valley, California, USA Story by 2 prospectors.
1950 (before) Near Mexico City, Mexico Second hand witness.
1950 January Mojave Desert, California, USA
1950 February 10 Copenhagen, Denmark Farmer witness UFO explode.
1950 March. New Mexico, USA FBI memo mentions recovery of 3 crashed saucers
1950 April Argentina Bodies not there anymore on next day
1950 Birmingham, Alabama Single witness case.
1950 May 10 Bahia Blanca Province, Argentina
1950 September 10 Albuquerque, Texas, USA 3 bodies
1950 December 6 El Indio/Guerrero area, Tex-Mex border, Texas, USA
1952 July Washington DC, USA
1952 July 23 Pueblo, Colorado, USA Admitted hoax.
1952 August Ohio, USA
1952 August 14 Ely, Nevada, USA 16 bodies recovered.
1952 September 9 Spitzbergen, Norway Probable mystification.
1953 Brady, Montana, USA Recovery of bodies by military.
1953 April 18 South-West Arizona, USA
1953 May 20 Western Utah, USA
1953 May 20/21 Kingman, Arizona, USA Reliable witness, 2 bodies
1953 June 19 Laredo, Texas, USA 4 bodies
1953 Summer Fort Polk, LA, USA
1953 July 10 Johannesburg, South Africa 5 bodies
1953 October 13 Dutton, Montana, USA 4 bodies
1954 (Spring) Matydale, New York, USA Police denies incident.
1955 July Vestra Norrland, Sweden
1955 May 5 Brighton, UK 5 bodies
1957 July 18 Carlsbad, New Mexico, USA 4 bodies
1957 September 14 Ubatuba, Brazil Physical evidences, fragments analyzed.
1957 November 21 Reasty Hill, Scarborough, Yorks
1958/1959 Woomera, Australia
1958 Utah desert
1959 January 21 Gdynia, Poland
1959 Frdynia, Poland Body and parts.
1959 September 17 Wormer near Amsterdam
1959 Undated Italy, North of Rome
1960s offshore Spain
1960s Great Sand Dunes, Co
1960 March New Paltz, New York, USA Alien dies 28 days later.
1961 Timmensdorfer, Germany
1961 April 28 2am. Lake Onega, Karelskaya, USSR.
1962 June 12 Holoman AFB, New Mexico, USA 2 bodies
1962 Otero County, NM
1962 April 18 Las Vegas, Nevada, USA Impressive events.
1963/1972 Australia, 12 recoveries
1963 July 16 Charlton, UK
1963 December 10 Cosford RAF, UK Alleged crash cover-up on RAF base.
1964 November 10 Fort Riley, Kansas, USA 9 bodies
1965 San Miguel, Argentina
1965 December 9 Kecksburg, Michigan, USA Very famous controversial case.
1966 October 26 Arizona, USA 1 body
1967 January South-West Missouri, USA 40 inches disc
1968 February 12 Orocue, Columbia US say 'satellite debris'.
1972 July 18 Saharian desert, Morocco 3 bodies
1973 July 10 Northwest Arizona, USA 5 bodies
1974 Llandrillo, Clwyd, Wales, UK
1974 November 9 Carbondale, Pennsylvania, USA Hoax or cover story?
1974 May 17 Chili, New Mexico, USA UFO moved to Kirtland AFB.
1974 August 25 Chihuahua, Mexico Disc crash
1976 May 12 Desert, Australia 4 bodies
1977 April 5 South-West Ohio, USA 11 bodies
1977 June 22 Northwest Arizona, USA 5 bodies
1977 August 17 Tobasco, Mexico 2 bodies
1978 May 6 Padcaya, Bolivia Search team finds nothing.
1978 Ocean off Finland, USSR USSR army rcovers bodies.
1978 November 10 Lebannon
1988 Russia Hill 611: debris recovered, analysis, conclusion: ET craft.
1988 November Afghanistan 7 bodies
1989 Cap Ontario, Canada
1989 May 7 Kalahari desert, Botswana, South Africa (Hoax or controversial)
1989 Siberia 9 alive
1989 September 28 Smith's Point Beach, Long Island, New York, USA
1990 September 2 Megas Platanos, Greece
1992 April Niagara Falls, USA Recovery by Army in front of witnesses
1992 November Long Island, New York, USA UFO Network is investigating.
1994 Birmingham, UK
1996 January 20 Varginha, Brazil Alleged capture of aliens by the military.
2000 August 27 Balochistan, Pakistan Newspaper report ufos and ufo crash.

[KiwiElf]

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[DNA]

I'm pretty sure a lot of this stuff was stored at area 51 at one time or another. Who knows where they are doing it now. In this documentary, a sentry from area 51 defects from the facility and is filmed and interviewed by Col. Wendelle Stevens before mysteriously vanashing again.
Stevens didn't know if the guy was legit until seven years later, a man named Colonail Steve Wilson came from Area 51 saying all the same things that were in the interview with Connor O'Ryan, except Wendelle Stevens had never released this information. With the corroboration that Steve Wilson's story gave Connor ORyan's story, Wendelle Stevens decided to release the information he had, and this is the documentary that does so. Excellent stuff.


The documentary mentions a hanger with half a dozen or so retrieved alien craft that are at or near working order. Colonial Steve Wilson had a sketch artist do a rendition, and it matches what Connor O'Ryan sketched almost perfectly.


The story centers around Connor O'Ryan, an Area 51 Sentry (guard).

Wendelle Stevens received a phone call one day by a man (Connor O'Ryan) who claimed to have information about area 51 or S4 as insiders call it.

The story gets cloak and dagger as the man fears for his life. For he not only was a sentry but, he doubled as a CIA operative who went on "special missions".
These "special missions" were basically assassanations that the united states perpetuated on those dubbed undesireable due to information they had that would come out in a court of law.

Bob Dean who lived across the street from Wendelle at the time varified the story because he came over and met the man.

Wendelle Stevens sat on this story for ten years 1991 to 2001 because he didn't know what would happen if he went public with it.

Connor stated that living on S4 was like living on a submarine, which he had done in the navy. Life on the base was not interupted, meals were eaten there, bunks were provided, entertainment of sorts was provided. Pay and compensation for black projects was deposited in an offshore account.

Base staff were given identification numbers and were expected to refer to one another by these numbers in place of their names. Audio pick ups were randomly placed all over the base and talking with fellow staff was forbidden. No exchanging names, discussing missions, or shop talk was permitted.

Connor O'Ryan stated that he was given random hypnotic sessions of which he had no memory of after the fact. Annual physicals contained one of these hypnotic sessions as well.

Interestingly enough Connor stated that on one "special mission" he was teamed with a vatican hitman, and he and Wendelle commented on the strangeness of the Catholic church having hit men. This pings with a lot of the things Bill and Kerry talk about in terms of the Black pope and Leo Zugami type stuff.

Connor also discussed a hit he did on a former special forces man living in Europe. He said this hit was the first that led him to wonder if these hits were as on the up and up as he had been led to believe. For the man he had killed was basically a parrallel to himself doing the same things and specialized in the same areas he was. He then began to believe that this was ultimately what happened to folks like himself when they outlived their usefullness.

At 07:20 on (07 of 16) episode in the series, Bob Dean states he talked to a full bird Colonial who said he went to the bottom level of Area 51 and went through a door and came out the other side in Pine Gap Australia. This certainly gives some ping to the Jump Room Bill Ryan and Kerry talk about with David Wilcock and Henry Deacon.

It is also stated that there is an ET base next to Pine Gap that is over a hundred years old.

Of the projects being worked on at area 51 Bob Lazar mentions 3.

1.Project Galileo - Dealt with gravity propulson.
2.Project Sidekick - Dealt with energy beam weopons that had a neutron source focused by a gravity lens.
3.Project looking glass - Dealt with seeing back in time.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=holCY20CtNA

I have a thread here where I discuss this documentary. Hail Wendelle Stevens
S4 (Area 51) Informers Volume One Wendelle Stevens and Bob Dean

[KiwiElf]

Excellent reference thank you DNA - recommend readers watch the whole Connor O'Ryan series (there are quite a few! - click on the YouTube link above and they will come up)

Area 51/Groom Lake are one and the same - S4 is a few miles south-west but they are allegedly connected. (see link above re Bob Lazar)

Area 51 is a NAVY facility (not Air Force). Also Bethesda Hospital, where JFK's body was finally taken after he was shot, is controlled by the NAVY. Secretary Forrestal, one of the original MJ-12/Majority 12 group, mysteriously "fell" to his death from that same hospital after voicing his concerns to Truman about the alien situation after Roswell.

After the law suits against Area 51 in the late 90's, much of the exotic hardware was moved to Pine Gap, Alice Springs, in Australia - allegedly

[DNA]

Posted by KiwiElf (here)
Excellent reference thank you DNA - recommend readers watch the whole Connor O'Ryan series (there are quite a few! - click on the YouTube link above and they will come up)

Area 51/Groom Lake are one and the same - S4 is a few miles south-west but they are allegedly connected. (see link above re Bob Lazar)

Area 51 is a NAVY facility (not Air Force). Also Bethesda Hospital, where JFK's body was finally taken after he was shot, is controlled by the NAVY. Secretary Forrestal, one of the original MJ-12/Majority 12 group, mysteriously "fell" to his death from that same hospital after voicing his concerns to Truman about the alien situation after Roswell.

After the law suits against Area 51 in the late 90's, much of the exotic hardware was moved to Pine Gap, Alice Springs, in Australia - allegedly

I don't want to slice hairs, or come off as argumentive, but from what I have gleaned, area 51 and s4 are one and the same, the only difference being that S4 was the name insiders used, and area 51 was the name folks not familiar with the inner workings used.
The Pine Gap thing makes sense,,,I mentioned above that Bob Dean states he talked to a full bird Colonial who stated that there was a jump room or portal or stargate that connected the two, and that this full birl Colonial Bob Dean talked to claimed to have travelled via this technology from area 51 to Pine Gap Australia. Interesting stuff.

[KiwiElf]

Thats OK - here's a map - (click on the pic to enlarge - is shown in the inset) Area 51 is above, S4 Papoose Dry Lake Bed) is below. As they are connected and only a few miles apart, I guess it could be argued that they are the same

[DNA]

I guess your right, I thought they were the same facility, but this clearly shows they are two distinct facilities.

Bob Lazar

Bob Lazar is the main reason the public is aware of Groom and Papoose Lake today. When he went public in 1989, he ignited a firestorm of interest in Area 51 which burns to this day. As most of you already know, Lazar described how he was flown from Las Vegas to Groom Lake, then taken on a bus with blacked out side windows to a facility he determined was known as S-4.

Lazar claims to have received a short briefing paper about two pages long which essentially stated that extraterrestrial exist, they have been involved in human history and their spacecraft are being housed at S-4

Lazar described the facility as being built into the base of the Papoose Range, with 9 hangar doors sloped at about a 60

degree angle. He said the doors had a sand-like texture coating to them, and Gene Huff later said the doors were rollup type doors. There were 9 of the hangar bays in all.

S-4 is located just southwest of Area 51. Over the mountain range that many speculate is a huge underground base.

[KiwiElf]

No probs - there are SOooo many bases!!!!! (Over 100 at the last count at an estimated cost of $60 trillion over the last four-six decades - no wonder the US is broke - not to mention the cost of reverse engineering all these "toys" ) Would give my back teeth to have a tour!

Here's the latest Google Earth snap shot showing the two:

[KiwiElf]

Here is the 1994 movie, "Roswell: The UFO Coverup", based-on-Fact of the Roswell Incident from Jesse Marcels' viewpoint.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=avb6i9QMo5g

Uploaded on Dec 28, 2012

Beginning at a 30-year reunion for members of a military nuclear bomb unit, flashbacks are presented that follow the attempts of Major Jesse Marcel to discover the truth about strange debris found on a local rancher's field in July of 1947. Told by his superiors that what he has found is nothing more than a downed weather balloon, Marcel maintains his military duty until the weight of the truth, however out of this world it may be, forces him to piece together what really occurred. Adapted from real-life events portrayed in the book _UFO Crash at Roswell_ by Kevin Randle and Donald Schmitt.

Kyle MacLachlan ... Jesse Marcel
Martin Sheen ... Townsend
Dwight Yoakam ... Mac Brazel
Xander Berkeley ... Sherman Carson
Bob Gunton ... Frank Joyce
Peter MacNicol ... Lewis Rickett
John M. Jackson ... Colonel Blanchard
Nick Searcy ... Mortician
J.D. Daniels ... Young Jesse Marcel, Jr.
Charles Hallahan ... Older Pilot MacIntire
Ray McKinnon ... Deputy Joe Pritchard
Eugene Roche ... James Forrestal

[witchy1]

Also here: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...-chronological

[KiwiElf]

Posted by witchy1 (here)
Also here: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...-chronological

Cool pic of yours on that link - thank you Witchy! (Maybe they should put wheels on their saucers??)

[GoodETxSG]

VERY WELL WRITTEN AND RESEARCHED...

Have you looked into some of the other countries programs and the locations of retrieved craft and maintenance facilities of reproduction craft that they are flying as their part of the coalition? It is interesting to note that almost all of these locations are operated by multinational scientists and military personnel... Star Gate Atlantis was pretty representative of how the bustling activity of the complexes look (I would imagine) with unit patches/designations and country of origin flags on their shoulders.

I haven't seen a real good map with intel on the following facilities/locations that outside of the USA.

1. The various "Sol Based Space Command" technical operations crews and pilot training facilities (Usually very close to Naval and Air force legitimate crew training facilities)
2. Locations of terrestrial subterranean maintenance and storage hangars, and some manufacturing locations being in the same locations
3. Post mission quarantine debrief and recreation locations (Accept one or two mentioned, Australia etc..)
4. GLOBAL Trans continental subterranean transport system hub entrance/exit locations. (Plenty of US Maps only for some reason)...
5. Related to 2. the resupply ports that load the often seen Delta "T-Birds" that resupply the orbiting stations/platforms/carriers etc...

Has anyone seen any of this info in the public sector that has leaked out? If so, please share... If to sensitive please PM me for my secure email... I have some pieces but am trying to get more and snap them together into a mosaic to be able to get a clear picture and also to toss some of the pieces out that are disinfo...
Thanks

[KiwiElf]

Thank you Corey. I'd love to know that info myself!!

Will have a look for the "Secret KGB UFO" Videos presented by Roger Moore re the Russian crashed UFOs. I thought those two docos interesting as well. UFO Hunters also investigated many, and UFOTV has an enormous collection for interested readers/viewers on YouTube. Will wade through them and link to here as I get time. (UFOTV Playlist is here

https://youtube.com/channel/SWs24l0wQzvvE

Am just previewing the Tunguska Incident and the one at Aztec mentioned earlier.

[GlassSteagallfan]

Free ebook: The Day After Roswell

http://ebookbrowse.com/corso-philip-...pdf-d443053138

Paul Hellyer claims he was told that every word of the book is true by some top brass.

[KiwiElf]

Aztec 1948 UFO Crash - The Government Cover-Up of Recovered Alien Technology
UFOTVstudios

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=7qAHicFzqj8

Uploaded on Oct 6, 2010

On March 25, 1948 a UFO spacecraft of extraterrestrial origin crashed in a place called Aztec, New Mexico. Sixteen alien bodies were discovered dead inside. The alien bodies and all evidence of their spacecraft were soon transported by government officials to Wright Patterson Air force Base where all traces of this event disappeared in secrecy.

This program documents the shocking facts around this disturbing mystery and includes interviews with leading UFO researchers, a walking tour of the crash site, a tour of the secret US radar station that tracked the UFO crash and the story of an intensive government investigation into alien biology and space technology, and a re-investigation of Frank Scully's claims in his Book, "Behind the Flying Saucers", first released in 1950.

Refer to Post #1 above

[KiwiElf]

Col. Philip J. Corso - The Lost Interview on UFOs
UFOTVstudios

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=DpffcjnXMx0

Uploaded on Sep 3, 2011

From UFOTV®, The following uncut interview was filmed for the feature film - "UFOs: 50 Years of Denial." In memory of Col. Philip J. Corso - May 22, 1915 - July 16, 1998, author of "The Day After Roswell" and his contribution to UFO and ET Disclosure.

[KiwiElf]

UFO Crash at Kecksburg - The Untold Story

Many people believe the government is not telling the truth about its involvement in the retrieval of a crashed UFO in Kecksburg, Pennsylvania in 1965. If a UFO did crash from the sky, was it man-made, an alien spacecraft from another world, a meteorite, or was the story only a hoax? People who live in Kecksburg still wonder what it was that caused the military, police, and local firefighters to respond so quickly to this rural community. According to eyewitness testimonies, it was golden-coloured, acorn-shaped and moving relatively slowly compared to a meteorite. It also had an uncanny resemblance to the NAZI "Bell" - Die Glocke, which vanished without a trace during the NAZI evacuation at the end of the Second World War.

Follow the events of December 9th, 1965, with UFO Investigator Stan Gordon as twenty-one witnesses describe what they saw, the news medias involvement and the military's mysterious removal of a UFO to an unknown Air Force base where all traces of this event disappeared in secrecy.

UFOTVstudios

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=Nyiu2ZB_p-c

Uploaded on Nov 17, 2010

Related Documentaries

Cook, Nick (Narrator and Writer) (1999). Billion Dollar Secret. Discovery Channel.
Cook, Nick (Researcher) (February 2005). "Area 51". Unsolved History. Episode 47. Discovery Channel.
Nazi UFO Conspiracy. Discovery Channel. November 24, 2008.

[GoodETxSG]

Maybe we can do some of this research together... I posted this info on the "Break Away Civilization(S)" on another thread... but if we are going to approach this topic I hope you do not mind me posting it again here... Some of this info need to be approached from the perspective below. This is info I personally can confirm;
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Of course the Mil Industrial Complex is made up of Corporations and Manufacturers that have 3 letter agency members, Admirals, Generals, Politicians and Deep Black Cabalists (Even Visitors) on the Boards as well as having their tenticles through out every aspect of the programs.

However I want you to read this part carefully...

There is NOT just ONE "BREAK AWAY CIVILIZATION"... If someone was to go indepth on that topic it would boggle your mind in a way that you may not recover. There are MANY "Break away societies remaining from long lost civilizations, Nazi/NWO Factions, Joint Military "NATO" like Space Agencies and others that are mixtures of Human and Visitors serving side by side.

They do not all have the same command/reporting structures. They are completely seperate although they have infiltrated eachother to varying degrees. This is not as cut and dry as some make it out to be... It is very complicated and if not for intervention from outside forces we would be in a high level break away civilization cold war (Which we were and still are to a point).

We have technology that we are not mature enough to have and it makes us more trouble than we are worth to the various visitors and their agenda's. It is actually quite a mess... these groups are always one mistake or shoot down away from a Stellar OR 2nd tier Civilization "Cuban Missile Crisis" (As it was told to me).

The situation cannot be fully understood with the info we have access to... these bits and pieces of info confuse more than inform. Thats why when people say "OH, the CIGAR ships... we know those belong to the Lizzies... and the Giant Orb's are known Artificial Planetary environments etc... Or those are the Andromidans, the Tal Ceti's or the Zeta's etc... Because "So n So" channeled them or was contacted by them... blah blah... There are many 2nd tier civilizations originating from Earth made up of Humans just like us... with just as many different sizes, shapes and designs of vehicles as there are purposes for them.

So be VERY careful what you lock into your belief system as to what is going on "Up There and Down Here" as it is NO different than a Religion. Which makes you vulnerable to bowing down and giving up your sovereignty to wonderous magical technology. (Sorry for grammar/mispellz darn hand held device again)... Just think about all of this folks. Lighten up and relax what you THINK you know and be a little open yet STAY skeptical.[/SIZE][/B]

Posted by KiwiElf (here)
Thank you Corey. I'd love to know that info myself!!

Will have a look for the "Secret KGB UFO" Videos presented by Roger Moore re the Russian crashed UFOs. I thought those two docos interesting as well. UFO Hunters also investigated many, and UFOTV has an enormous collection for interested readers/viewers on YouTube. Will wade through them and link to here as I get time. (UFOTV Playlist is here

https://youtube.com/channel/SWs24l0wQzvvE

Am just previewing the Tunguska Incident and the one at Aztec mentioned earlier.

[KiwiElf]

I don't mind at all Corey - (you must have been reading my mind - just came on here to make a link to your threads ) your posts are terrific and very much related... is much appreciated, thank you! . It's proving to be a very large "rabbit hole"...