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    A retired banker describes simply, the world's Money Scam and the reason every country is now going bankrupt. Private banks have stolen the money creation process, and whereas once our money was created by the governments, debt-free, it is now created out of thin air and issued as debt with interest charges. In today's banker controlled world, money = debt, debt = slavery and therefore, money = slavery -- our monetary systems have become systems of enslavement.

    Money is created out of nothing, issued as debt, not enough money is created for the future interest payments and inflation steals our savings.

    The money creation process should be taken away from the banks and given to the governments who can create money debt-free, interest-free. This is how it used to be done and we needed no income taxes. Finally, it is explained what we should do to stop supporting the money scam.


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    Default Re: The Greatest Scam on Earth

    Thanks Ulli this is one thing everyone should know !!!...It should be taught in all schools imho..Steve

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    When country borrows money the lender never checks on the ability of the borrower to pay back the principle. No, the lender looks at the borrowers ability to RESTRUCTURE the loan when it comes due. So, the scammers never intend to pay back the loan, simply to refinance over and over and over and over.........until they hit infinity (just kidding, but close), then it all collapses. Sadly, we seem to be at the collapse part of the show. And yes, the lenders understand the game too.

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    This scam is known by many of the protesters of Occupy Wall Street. We've a thread here on David Wilcox and the end of The Powers That Were.

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    So, if debt is created out of air, then there is no debt. Surely!!!!!

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    thx ulli. It seems that as the balance has swung towards MNC's being the richest groups, over sovereign states then this banking game is only part of the worlds elite to buy up countries, like a mondo game of monopoly. However I feel that maybe certain governments are actually immune to economic downturns, as they have close connections with the banking elite; UK and USA ( i mean to be honest could you run up a debt like the USA and not ring alarm bells with your bank) however such countries chose to impliment unpopular austerity cuts for other agendas. In the UK all the poorer areas have been hit massively by the 20% cuts, that are said to be necessary to clear the previous governments overspending; nonsese like the bank is forclosing on the USA for its escalting debt, with London as a finace/banking powerhouse. The cuts in the UK are undermining the provison of basic services and libraries, youth centres. medical centres are closing, the volunteer sector, which relied on government funding is dying a death by a thousand cuts with many groups have disappeared. Why would a government actively destroy its own infrastrcucture, that took so long to build. similar patterns are occurring in australia, where I read a post today that said australia was committing suicide, why? why would advanced western states be purposely destroying their own properity over someting that, to be honest, is not real, being the money world as an illusionary reality we have all been sold? my channel is it's to break our spirit, to kick us down as we now are beginning to stand to straight for their liking and they can't have the slaves having any hope can they? Bad move, major bad move, in fact epic fail; because if they thought that they could destroy our spirit by standing on our heads they are even more outta touch with reality then we thought. However this tactic I feel on there part is an attempt to dampen down the vibrational shift; if the shift is positive, inject more negative, sounds simple enough. sure does if your operating at a limited level of consciousness and understanding, playing in their 'sandbox' blimin' bean counters. however the shift is not working on such a low level of logic, in fact its pretty hard even for us shamans and others to get a handle, and we're operating outside the (sand) box. So to the elites I say nice try, but your chocolate fireguard idea is well laughable

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    Quote Posted by Cidersomerset (here)
    Thanks Ulli this is one thing everyone should know !!!...It should be taught in all schools imho..Steve
    Hi Cider, but the schools and universities are part of the system. We have to end the banking system surely first. Then maybe we can teach the children what used to happen as in a history lesson. Where to start is my big question. Any ideas?

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    Quote Posted by ktlight (here)
    So, if debt is created out of air, then there is no debt. Surely!!!!!
    Should it not be the airs debt?

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    Our governments are making cuts, closing down youth centres etc because they are covering the banks misdeeds from the voters who voted them into their position. If we all know that this banking system is daylight robbery of the people THEN the politicians know this obvious fact. They say nothing of the truth to us and lie through their teeth all the time. They are only in politics because of one reason: looking after their own interests. They play the game. Kid us on the whole time. They are a right shower of sad lying bastards. No two words about it.

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    Quote Posted by aranuk (here)
    the schools and universities are part of the system. We have to end the banking system surely first. Then maybe we can teach the children what used to happen as in a history lesson. Where to start is my big question. Any ideas?
    An attack on all fronts undermining and abolishing the criminal system, right here right now. All changes, that are necessary go hand in hand, surely not everything can happen exactly simultaneously, but it won't be clearcut one after the other either, I guess.

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    Money as we know it has to disappear cause it could be a corrupted system as we have seen.

    We should all receive money for food and clothing. Money should not have any value, it should be as valuable as an ID(passport, drivers license) Just like a document that needs to be used for an exchange for any need. Housing should be free for everybody. Education should be free and available for every child regardless of background, colour, race, etc etc..

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    Default Re: The Greatest Scam on Earth

    This would be why there were several calls to revert to the gold standard, as gold is actually worth something... or was

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    I think it's time to form close-knit communities...
    wherever one is living, as well as on-line.

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    Quote Posted by ulli (here)
    I think it's time to form close-knit communities...
    wherever one is living, as well as on-line.
    less centrilization, less dependance on "a system" that has so many vulnerabilities. we need to go to distributed resource / close tie communities, I totaly agree.

    Power should be distributive, food production.. hell even clothing; we have the technology to make it so 100% employment is completely un needed; I have a few hours of conversation recorded between me and a friend exploring alternative "econonomy" set ups.. we need to move away from a scarcity based economy, hardly anything is scarce unless your a hoarder!
    Hard times create strong men, Strong men create good times, Good times create weak men, Weak men create hard times.
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    Quote Posted by TargeT (here)
    Quote Posted by ulli (here)
    I think it's time to form close-knit communities...
    wherever one is living, as well as on-line.
    less centrilization, less dependance on "a system" that has so many vulnerabilities. we need to go to distributed resource / close tie communities, I totaly agree.
    Power should be distributive, food production.. hell even clothing; we have the technology to make it so 100% employment is completely un needed; I have a few hours of conversation recorded between me and a friend exploring alternative "econonomy" set ups.. we need to move away from a scarcity based economy, hardly anything is scarce unless your a hoarder!
    G'day All,

    This is dangerous thinking right here...
    Imagine it...
    Loosely affiliated groups providing for themselves and sharing with others...
    Decentralised organisations with little or no structure...

    How the hell can they be controlled!
    Really, come on now.
    Next thing you'll be suggesting they plant their own food or directly help the farmers who do (maybe some community supported agriculture), build their own homes, supply education, health care and other needs freely and get rid of money!

    Bloody Anarchists.
    Next thing you'll learn about some alternatives and maybe read some Bookchin.
    You're all such a bother, now sit down you're interrupting my tellingvision time...

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    The most exciting thing about this thread is the questions it generates which will lead to new answers. Remaining in the energy of curiosity and continuing to ask the next question always leads to deeper and more exciting answers.

    Here are a few questions I like.
    What changes are needed to allow us to teach the children what we now understand is our true history?
    Better yet: What will allow us to be open to allowing the children to teach us about our true nature and history?

    Where do we need to be, who do we need to be with, and what will support more freedom from limitation?
    What beliefs are we holding that are creating patterns of lack, victim-hood, and grief?
    What new ideas do we have to let go of the limitations now associated with money? Is there another way available?

    I'll bet we can come up with better and better questions, which will allow deeper and better answers to appear in consciousness for us all to enjoy.

    Here's a very inspiring video that will leave you feeling filled with hope... it is about changing the money paradigm totally:
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    This is also the of primary cause of greed in our culture. People wrongly assume greed is an innate trait of a human nature; and while this may be so, I would posit greed is but a generated response to the insidious dynamic of our monetary system. When money is issued in a certain quantity where there is not enough money in circulation to satisfy the demand for money, (e.g. to pay back the debt) a deep-rooted and subliminal understanding of shortage grips the collective psyche; someone will necessarily have to go without. Put another way, if there are ten apples to consume, but only nine units of currency to exchange for them, someone in the group will have starve. This is the ultimate control dynamic. In short, it fuels a survival-of-the-fittest instinct in the species. And while we don't necessarily consciously understand our responses, shortage is nonetheless imprinted upon the collective psyche; hence a base and instinctual drive to procreate and survive, and may the strongest and fittest among us prosper and pass on our genes.

    In the shortest terms possible, our worst flaws as a species are a consequence of this, the greatest scam on Earth.

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    Quote Posted by ulli (here)
    A retired banker describes simply, the world's Money Scam and the reason every country is now going bankrupt. Private banks have stolen the money creation process, and whereas once our money was created by the governments, debt-free, it is now created out of thin air and issued as debt with interest charges. In today's banker controlled world, money = debt, debt = slavery and therefore, money = slavery -- our monetary systems have become systems of enslavement.

    Money is created out of nothing, issued as debt, not enough money is created for the future interest payments and inflation steals our savings.

    The money creation process should be taken away from the banks and given to the governments who can create money debt-free, interest-free. This is how it used to be done and we needed no income taxes. Finally, it is explained what we should do to stop supporting the money scam.


    http://www.forbiddenknowledgetv.com/...on-earth-.html


    Great Thread ulli,

    The 'Title' justifies the 'Content' and is a 'Must View' for all...

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    Zoom in to view history of the Fed' / http://thrivemovement.com/infographics/historyofthefed/

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    Hopefully all of the distractions and adversarial polarities created for our amusement and energetic discharge can now be focused on the true elite bloodlines who have been in control of this planet for millennium, and we, as sovereign souls, can and will choose to finally move away from victimhood to self determination. This game in polarity, which we have been playing, is getting old and tired, and I say: "been there, done that...got the tee shirt and the ticket stub" and it's time to move on.

    The patterns are imbedded in our very DNA and therefore are genetic as well as environmental, with every social system designed and engineered to perpetuate the fraud. Awakening requires a complete "clean sweep" of our hard wired hard drives and the reloading of all new software. Everything (speaking for myself) I have ever been taught has been a lie and needed to be rewritten in an entirely new context, while most of the vocabulary used to communicate in the dying context also had to be discarded because it had energy of conflict, strife, aggressiveness, competition, and agitated energetic impulses within it.

    The new paradigm discards anything which creates fear and strife, or perturbations in my energy field, where the context attempts to polarize and short circuit into antiquated belief structures my energy that is moving into unity and higher consciousness. I see a collapse of the current financial paradigm. How the new paradigm will look has been speculated by many and needs to bring back community and discard centralization. Once we start communicating with each other again instead of our I-pads, or "pods" then our humanity will begin to shine through collectively.

    The new dawn is to be intentioned and embraced. Only the degree of birth pains associated with the transition is the unknown variable.
    Last edited by gripreaper; 14th October 2011 at 05:55.

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