WADE FRAZIER : A Healed Planet

[Gardener]

Sandy, I listened last night too, and will listen again, there is just so much to take in. I also wanted to say about when Adam seemed agressive, I felt it as a real passion, a deperate cry to us all and to humanity to please 'get it' now! A couple of times when listening I cried from a deep place, almost animal like which defies description; and even though I 'get it' intellectually, I have to get it viscerally, to then take it to heart literally.

g

[Ilie Pandia]

Did Scott publish the archive yet , and if so where?

[sandy]

Hi Gardener,

I agree with you and yes, feel it too, very deeply. Thus I want to do more than just support FE warriors in my personal actions and thoughts from my small corner of the world. I too believe that urgency for movement is on the doorstep and hang on to the fact that our intention to create the release of FE will be much sooner than later

[sandy]

Hi Ilie,

Scott will already have it archived at Spectrum Radio Network Co-Host Scott Jordan>>>hope this helps as I don't know how to embed the website

[Scott]

OK I have added Part 2 Adam Trombly's Interview to the archives page. (running a bit late today)



Adam Trombly - Thrive Movie - Starchild Program - Zero Point Energy - Part 2

Adam Trombly joined the show and had so much information to impart that we broke it into two parts, aired Tuesday October 11th and again on Tuesday, October 18th.

Adam enthralled us with his vast knowledge and wisdom, adding fascinating anecdotes and tying it all up with not only his great skill of presentation, but his sense of humour, as well.

I was literally sitting on the edge of my seat as Adam spoke of his childhood and career, adding some hair-raising incidents that he had been through.

He speaks with passion and one can sense the joy in what he does and cannot help but get caught up in every word.· The scope of Adam’s knowledge in science was a little intimidating for someone like me, who appreciates and respects it, but is....okay, I’ll say it.....clueless.· But Adam has such an incredible way of explaining things that I sat spellbound; completely caught up in the zone right along with him.

So many, many thanks to Adam for taking the time out of his busy schedule to be on the show and we wish him continued success in the future.

Enjoy.· I certainly did.

P.S Again, so sorry I was running late today

Scott

[kudzy]

Thanks Scott, I really appreciate your interview style. I totally enjoyed listening to Adam in both parts 1 & 2 and look forward to a part 3 or 4, it sounded like he's into doing more interviews with you. At 1:46 of part 2, do you suppose Adam was referring to Dutchsinse? Just curious. I'm going to listen to both parts again. Awesome, great work. Zero Point Now!

[Wade Frazier]

Hi:

I just listened to second half of Adam’s interview. Quite a show. The man who made Thrive is an heir to the Proctor & Gamble fortune. I have been aware of this movie-in-the-making for several years. He visited James’s ranch several years ago:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/ufo.htm

and saw, as James told me, the “big ships” like we saw. Interviewing John Robbins, another heir who refused to play the game:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#_edn246

is highly appropriate for Thrive, and I look forward to seeing it. On Adam saying that Chain Reaction was not about Yull Brown, well, we are probably both right. It probably did start out as an FE movie, but they ended up working Yull into it. Yull was a bit miffed about what happened, as I recall. A couple of guys visited him in So. Cal. and picked his brains for a couple of days, promising to get him the money, and a couple of years later, Chain Reaction came out, and those guys were part of the production, but I do not know if they were producers, writers or exactly what. Chain Reaction came out right in the middle of Dennis’s barnstorming tour of the USA, where he promoted Yull like nobody had ever done before.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#yull

The technology to get energy from water was not Brown’s Gas in the movie, but another exotic water-based technology, but the blowing up the city part was what there was also fear about with Brown’s Gas. I read the letter from Al Gore to us back in 1996, where he backed off from further involvement, after our visit with him at the White House, where he expressed such fears of it being too dangerous. Before they exploded the first atom bombs, some scientists thought that it would start a chain reaction that would blow up the entire planet. That did not happen, but similar fears were expressed about Brown’s Gas inciting a chain reaction in non-radioactive isotopes, and creating a chain reaction like was featured in the movie. That guy in the picture I attached below was the ringer for Yull in Chain Reaction. Lighting up that flame on stage was a standard Yull demo with Brown’s Gas. I have several tapes of Brown doing his thing, and they can be found on the Internet. I also have a tape of him doing the neutralization demo. Chain Reaction was awful, but I think I may have go buy it now. When Adam talked about that offer to have two thousand scientists working for him in China, I am sure that that was the city that they built for Brown that I spoke of in my second interview with Scott and Tom. Yull did not want to live in China, but a Green Card was always his goal. I am thinking of writing a bit about our Yull days. It will be difficult, because there is plenty that I can’t say publicly right now, alas. We’ll see.

Best,

Wade

[Scott]

Posted by kudzy (here)
Thanks Scott, I really appreciate your interview style. I totally enjoyed listening to Adam in both parts 1 & 2 and look forward to a part 3 or 4, it sounded like he's into doing more interviews with you. At 1:46 of part 2, do you suppose Adam was referring to Dutchsinse? Just curious. I'm going to listen to both parts again. Awesome, great work. Zero Point Now!

Thanks

I will certainly do as many interviews with Adam as he will allow, which is a biggie since he really is not that interested in doing interviews that much and this interview took a long time to finally happen, I have had many many hours of conversation with Adam and he has a lot to say on many subjects.

As it stands now though I have to do some interviews I have set up already and Edit those I have "in the can" like Ben Stewart (Esoteric Agenda, Kymatica, UNGRIP) William Bramley (Gods of Eden) & Lloyd Pye (Everything you know is wrong, Starchild)

I will interview him again to be sure but on his time table, as soon as Thrive comes out Adam will more than likely be in demand.


P.S Here is the thing that makes me wonder about all the Human movements/revolutions in history, go back as far as you like, the details change but the social cry for freedom is the same.
These things are so easily co-opted and steered it boggles the mind, lets hope eventually its a fire that is allowed to burn out of control and will temper the steel of our and upcoming generations.

What Adam says about Free Energy NOW! is important, instead of holding up placards calling out the evil bankers and corrupt government so the Custodial Masters can supply you with the "New Order" that the people cried out for.

Instead just let it be known, "We know you Elite manipulators have suppressed knowledge and technologies and we want it available to everyone NOW!!!
"As a planetary species we the 99% have reached our Zero Point, enough is enough!"
"oh ya and while we are at it, You are FIRED!"



Scott

[Wade Frazier]

Hi all:

As I have stated before, Adam is the only person I know of like Dennis. They are the Indiana Jones guys, and even though I was with Dennis during his darkest days, I still have a hard time imagining what he lived through. Carrying Dennis’s spear was the greatest honor of my life, but it was also life-wrecking behavior. I will always be recovering from it.

While the Dennises and Adams scale the ramparts, my intention is to provide a pool of awareness that can support them, and thing that is needed the most, by far, is people who think like creators instead of victims. That means that they are motivated by love, not fear, that they own how the world is today and even love it, so that it can be healed and set aside, to make way for the coming dawn. The lamb’s path is what I am interested in (when I released my anger at the evil that I witnessed and bore the brunt of, and instead sacrificed my life to save Dennis, then the miracle happened). For those who want to scale alongside Adam, now is your chance, if he will have you. I am trying to get enough fluffy lambs to break your fall if you come flying off the castle wall after the hot oil hits you, and if enough lambs show up, Godzilla will likely flee in fear (what a movie scene that would be ).

The primary reason why these movements collapse is that people think and act like victims instead of creators. The pool of loving integrity needs to form the core. Otherwise, it will end up like the French or Russian or Chinese Revolutions.

Best,

Wade

[Gardener]

Practical steps:
So where do we go from here, alone I/we continue within a psychodynamic paradigm as individuals, how, without the intervention mirror are we able to move from a fear based dynamic to a love based dynamic? If, as an individual, despite the dynamic we are living in, do we exorcise that which is conditioned into us? How to move from the 'away-from' style of being to the 'toward' style of being.

g

[Wade Frazier]

Hi all:

As is evident, Adam’s stuff, or Sparky Sweet’s:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#sweet

or Rife’s:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#rife

or Naessens’s

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#naessens

all have the virtue of their technologies operating under principles that defy the physics textbooks. And all of their stuff is like cavemen’s clubs compared to the good stuff that the Big Boys have:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/camelot.htm#underground

It is nothing short of incredible to witness the irrational summersaults of denial that mainstream scientists engage in to dismiss those technologies. The “skeptics” are expert at that denial (and some are professionals, working on behalf of Godzilla):

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/dennis.htm#friends

while the unconscious denial of those “scientists” is a big part of the reason why those pioneers had a rough ride, and is a key to the structuralist view:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#ed

it is only part of the picture. Organized suppression is also a key part of it, but far, far less than people like to think. The conspiracists are barking up the wrong tree, too:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#conspiracism

I liked it when Adam called out some of the stuff you see in “conspiratorial” circles as disinformation, such as using HAARP to cause earthquakes. There is way more chaff than wheat out there:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/orthodox.htm#alternatives

Only those with a loving, comprehensive perspective can really see the big picture here. That is part of the problem, and a big part. This is the biggest problem humanity has ever faced, and if we get our act together, what lies on the other side of that hump is hard to imagine, although some of us are making a stab at it:

http://www.projectavalon.net/forum4/...A-Future-Earth

Best,

Hi Gardener:

The answer is within all of us. That is where the true power is. I give plenty of practical advice in my site, such as here:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/visions.htm#activities

Best,

Wade

[CdnSirian]

Good morning Wade and all. I have spent two months reading your site Wade, and simultaneously read as much of this forum as I can. I have some writing responsibilities to finish before I can post more here, but I want to say I am proud to run with the lambs. Thank you Wade, and all, for your support in our wooleyness.

[sandy]

Hi Everyone,

I think it is important to remember that life is a process and journey for each and everyone of us and the streets are many and diversified to say the least. To say your street is the only street or the street everyone should be on is erroneous and adverse to spirit.

All that are working toward a better world are at differing consciousness and levels of discernment but the intent is the same! A BETTER WORLD

Lets not get divisive in defining who is where and what will be the outcome for where they are at, as all are divine in the end and all are part of the process of change and evolution.

Each day I'm saddened more and more by daily and worldly events but it is what it is and change is happening rapidly. I can't fix it today but I can promise you all one thing>>>> my Love, today and into eternity

[Wade Frazier]

Hi all:

It is time once again, when I try to center this thread (and threads) on my intentions. While I am pleased that readers are getting something out of the “visions” thread:

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...A-Future-Earth

and the others that some seem to find useful:

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...by-Free-Energy

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...No-way-in-hell

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...ans-for-Earth&

there is a method to my madness, and I feel the need to reiterate it again, especially with quite a few new readers chiming in lately, Thrive coming out, Adam’s interviews and so on. I have very specific goals, and some pretty specific ways of getting there. I have seen what does not work, and have no interest in beating those dead horses.

Ultimately, my goal, as far as physical reality goes, is to live on Heaven on Earth. If not in this lifetime, then maybe I will find myself here before long:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/visions.htm#roads1

But not everybody wants to live there, and that is OK. Some want to live here:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/visions.htm#roadsblade

and others here:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#hell

and that is their choice. There is not one reality or one path. Each of us is on our divine journey. As I pursued my path, I found some fellow travelers and allies, but they were very few and far between. For people with scientific training, it is very plain that the human journey, and all life on Earth, rides atop the energy situation. The energy situation is the critical one for the human journey, particularly now, as the pursuit of energy threatens humanity with self-extinction, and that event would likely take a lot of the biosphere with us. It could turn out that way, and I am doing what I can to prevent it.

As I pursued the energy situation, I became involved in events that I sometimes found hard to believe, and I was there, so to speak. I came to find that the people running the planet have not only possessed unlimited energy technology for longer than I have been alive, but they have also gone to great lengths to make sure that humanity does not enjoy the benefit of that technology; and their motives are not benevolent, let me assure you. They are mostly on the dark spiritual path:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#serving

and a craving for what they think of as power dominates their awareness. They would rather destroy the planet than relinquish their “power.” They are some deeply sick people, but they are only masters of a game that almost all humans are playing: the game of fear. I want to play the game of love. That is what I devoted my life to, but it is easier said than done on Earth.

The Big Boys know that energy runs the world, and keeping in control of the energy paradigm – and ensuring that energy is a scarce commodity – is what keeps them on top. That is why they have paid out more than $100 billion in quiet money in my lifetime to keep the lid on the energy situation.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/hooked.htm#payoff

and those are among their “benign” tactics. But there is also dissention in their ranks:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/camelot.htm#underground

which may provide opportunities. My energy journey began as a teenager:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#introduction

and it continues today, although I consider myself semi-retired from the game. My journey was far larger than life, and it was by no means easy, but I kept my eyes open and have seen what does not work, as far as trying to crack the energy nut. I developed a framework a few years ago to assist an understanding of the many levels of awareness that I witnessed over the years:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#peeling

I live in Level 12, and am trying to help people get there without getting stuck in the earlier layers. I have only met a few Level 12s in my life so far, but I am trying to amass more that can raise their awareness and focus it on the energy issue. Since very few people have scientific training, most people have very little understanding, at most, about the energy issue. Getting to Level 12 generally takes a comprehensive perspective at the minimum, the kind that Bucky Fuller had:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/roots.htm#fuller

People also need to achieve a state of love, not fear, to get to Level 12. One state is energy abundant, and the other is energy scarce. It is all connected. I don’t kid myself that I will find many people who can or want to understand what I am writing about. I have been at this far too long to believe otherwise. I look for needles in haystacks, at around one in a thousand in the general population, if that, and I let the rest of humanity live their lives. The masses are simply not ready at this time for my message. I seek a highly particular audience. At this time, Ilie represents the quintessential person whom I seek. Ilie keeps telling me that he is no hero, and I keep replying, “Great, because I am not looking for heroes.” I am looking for people who can just develop a comprehensive perspective and lay aside their scarcity-based conditioning long enough so that they can simply imagine abundance.

To that end, I have been performing researching in my “spare” time for the past several years, with the goal of writing an essay that will help people develop comprehensive perspectives, which will focus on the energy issue:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/upcoming.htm

I hope to finish that essay next year, and then I plan to begin an invitation-only forum someplace in cyberspace, maybe at Avalon, where I can get a high level conversation going. It will be highly focused. It will not be some kind of all-comers forum where all sorts of wild theories are pursued, or where dubious “facts” from the black ops world are tossed around. It is going to be something different. If that effort meets with success, maybe we can start to get somewhere:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#pursuing

I will do my best to prevent the conversation from getting distracted with the million sideshows and rabbit holes that await newcomers and the unwary. Getting to Level 12 and staying there is like walking the razor’s edge. I will ask the best of each participant, and I plan on raising my game, too. The effort may well help Heaven on Earth manifest in the not-too-distant future, for those who want to experience it. That is my goal while I live on this planet.

We will see how it all goes.

Best wishes to all,

Wade

[Wade Frazier]

Hi all:

A buddy read my latest post and asked me this morning if my approach was “elitist” and maybe guru-like. That I was asked a question like that from somebody that I respect means that I need to do a little clarifying. Just like I wrote about my LA Days (nine posts that begin here):

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post319133

or my Godzilla posts:

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post305681

I think that I need to go through my adventures of interacting with the public, so where I am coming from today is better understood. In the end, I am trying to amass a nucleus of awareness that can withstand the forces that will be arrayed against it, and it won’t be just Godzilla, but the masses, too. We are not going to force anything on anybody, but will be just standing up for the truth, the light, love, and we will see what happens. I originally saw it as just a support structure for the Adams and Dennises, but it might become something more, but that would all be gravy for me.

Many of you have read a little about my training and precocious nature:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paths.htm#_edn4

When I listened to Scott’s interviews with Adam,

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post330627

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post336132

I could relate to a lot of it. I was not in some Star Child program, but the encyclopedia was my bedside friend when I was a child, too. I was a prodigy who was raised to do great things. To then be essentially disowned by the very people who raised me to be what I became was part of the path, I am sad to say. But my mystical awakening:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#my

my baptism by fire in LA, rescuing a hooker:

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...ker#post327642

and so on were merely prerequisites for being led to Dennis:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#voice2

That is when my education really began. There is nobody on Earth like Dennis that I have seen, and I have looked. He is the only person I know of who can successfully complete this application:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#howmany

Nobody has ever brought disruptive technology to the market like Dennis did. What he did in Seattle literally has nothing like it to compare to, that I have ever heard of:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#run

Ventura was a spectacular takedown of our operation. People like Sparky Sweet looked on from afar and in horror:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#sweet

as we were being eviscerated, and Sparky was glad that it wasn’t him getting that treatment, although Sparky’s end was a grim one, too.

I staggered out of Ventura in 1990, suffering from PTSD, and I then hit the books for several years:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#books

Then, after years of him trying to coax me back into the saddle with him, I stepped into Hurricane Dennis again in 1996, and nearly went to prison for my efforts:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/other.htm#darker

After I discovered how close the bullet came to my head once again, I decided to try for the quiet life, but here I am, stirring things up again. Maybe I never learn (I went over my smiley limit, so there is supposed to be a smiley here).

I eventually came to realize that my training and experiences were rather unique, and that I had a perspective that needed to be out there if humanity was going to have a chance of turning the corner. I certainly am not saying that I have the keys to the kingdom, and it is nice to see Adam going public again, in a way that he has not done for many years, and Dennis is still incredibly trying:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paths.htm#ftc

as they keep trying to take him out. But, I have a unique contribution to make, I think (if I had to title my story, it would be some like The Squire’s Journey ), and I am doing what I can, while juggling many balls at once. Will it help at all? Maybe not, but maybe it will. I had to try it out, because I have not seen anybody try it yet, not like I am doing.

Brian O understood. Dennis is the only person I know of who has put disruptive energy technology on the market in a potentially disruptive way. The learning experience that attended those efforts went infinitely beyond garage tinkerers, scientists in their labs, and so on. We got to see how the Establishment’s immune system reacted to a threat like us, and Godzilla was rarely involved, but the local predators usually did the dirty work, unprompted, as they protected their turf or saw opportunity for plunder. It was actually more educational to see how people around me reacted than it was to receive the loving strokes of the sledgehammer, although Mr. Deputy’s performance in the courtroom was my radicalizing moment, which I will probably have to thank him for someday in the Great Hereafter:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#faces

Brian did not go through the meat grinder like I did, and he realized that I had something to teach that probably cannot be learned except through direct personal experience. You really cannot teach somebody this stuff, not at the highest levels, until they have been there, but I am trying to steer people in the direction that I intend without asking them to risk their lives:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#developing

and people like Ilie are doing the work. That is literally about all that I ask. While what Ilie is doing may seem rather mundane, people might not appreciate how rare what he is doing is. I have almost never encountered it. I can almost count students like Ilie on one hand. Reading his posts is truly an awesome experience, as I see that somebody can get it. Ilie quickly went through the early layers of the FE Onion, and I think that he is close to Level 12,

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level12

if he is not there already. Watching Ilie get it told me that what I have to teach can be learned, although Ilie certainly did not start at square one. He already had many of the prerequisites out of the way. Ilie does not entirely like being made an example of in this way, and I am sorry to do it (but only sorry a little), but that is what he bit off when he began interacting with me here at Avalon. This stuff is not easy, not by any means, and we all get to have our moments of doubt. That is part of the price of admission.

With that preamble, out of the way, here is how I came to my current approach, that I have yet to really try out, but it is coming soon, I hope.

I grew up in the Southern California mystical scene, and just about saw it all by the time I was in my thirties. I know the perils of playing guru, and so on.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/opinions.htm#mystical

EST became a Werner Erhard cult. I took EST at age 21, and quickly saw what it was. Like Scientology, the material can be wonderful, but it is then used for cultish ends. That is pretty standard, in a world of scarcity. When I lived in Ohio, I encountered the most accomplished mystical community that I ever saw, but a bunch of them joined an A Course in Miracles cult in Wisconsin. It really threw me for a loop to watch that happen. Visiting that cult was quite the experience, as they tried to recruit me. I thought I had seen it all in Southern California, but that A Course in Miracles cult was something else. I was sympathetic to what they were trying to do, and attempting to fill the obvious void inside themselves was a worthy goal, but it was sad all the same.

After I hired a professional editor and finished my site in 2002 (I really wish I had a year to rewrite it all, but it is time that I do not have right now), I actually went quiet for years, as the crazy and vicious attacks escalated after 9/11, and I was entering the dark phase of my midlife crisis:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/opinions.htm#crisis

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#journey

When I began to reengage the public in 2007, I discovered that the situation on the Internet had deteriorated greatly, and trolls dominated public forums, and I knew that many were professionals. Then I tried a specialized forum at ATS, where I hoped that that the participants would not go brain-dead at the mention of FE, and attack me for being a “conspiracy theorist,” and so on. Well, ATS sure turned out differently than I thought it would. The trolls came swarming, the ATS administrators would not police it, and they banned me when the trolls ganged up on me.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/critics.htm#_edn1

About the same time that ATS banned me (and I had several other weird forum experiences in those days), I did my first public interview:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/radio.htm

and Bill and Kerry interviewed Brian and me the next year:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/camelot.htm

and my climb to fame began, which I am very ambivalent about. I don’t like being recognized in public, and it is beginning to happen. After my ATS and similar experiences, I realized that all-comers forums, especially where the members are anonymous, will not work. I joined this forum when my JFK research was being discussed several years ago.

http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?act=idx

and that is about what I have in mind for my “invitation-only” forum. You don’t see it on my Avalon threads much, but there are some pretty accomplished members at Avalon who contact me privately. Some are leading seminars on this stuff, borrowing heavily from my work, while others are running corporations and waiting for me to begin class. They usually remark that I seem to be a glutton for punishment, as I kept answering the same elementary questions over and over and over on my thread, as people asked if this or that inventor “had it,” and so on. I reply that it is my patience training :

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#reading

We all get to work on our “stuff” here, and it is no different for me.

Inventor-itis is an early-stage awareness,

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level6

but almost everybody who hears about FE gets stuck there for a while, as you can see on this thread, and that is partly my karma, I suppose, as inventors were my early orientation, too, and Dennis is about the biggest inventor promoter of all time. Inventor-itis is a big trap for the technically-minded, who think that they can invent an FE machine in their garage (delusion number one), and think that if they somehow get one going (it happens from time-to-time), then it is a downhill race to bringing FE to the world (delusion number two). Inventors with FE prototypes are a dime a dozen. They usually succumb to their own foibles or those of their “allies” as greed and other fear-based emotions take over, and Godzilla barely has to open an eye at that stage. Then the local energy interests usually take them out, before Godzilla ever needs to lift a claw. Only when somebody like Dennis starts flying high, or people like Adam start demonstrating FE prototypes in Manhattan, or Sparky mails working prototypes to the big energy institutions:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#sweet

does Godzilla even need to roll out of bed. And he is good at what he does, let me tell you. He is the consummate professional at taking out aspirants, and has developed a science for doing it:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/risk.htm#graph

But I have constantly encountered highly naïve people, in both the FE milieu and at places like Avalon, who think they have it all figured out, and they have zero experience in playing the game at the high levels. Again, it is my patience training, and some days are better than others.

I am going to use a math analogy here, and the analogy has it limits, as with all analogies. For those with a math background, they know that the math curriculum builds on itself. People need to be able to add two-plus-two before they can multiply, and they need to be able to add fractions before they can do algebra, and algebra is the arithmetic of calculus (and they learn geometry and trigonometry along the way). In fact, people really don’t get algebra “down” until they do calculus.

I have been at this stuff for nearly forty years now, and my energy journey began when I had my mystical awakening and my first professional mentor invented the world’s best engine for powering an automobile:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#glimpse

and I spent two months in Europe that same year:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#europe

Age sixteen was my year of awakening on several fronts, and I consider it the beginning of my adulthood, but I was just beginning the journey.

I am not saying that I have all the answers, not by any means, but I plan to teach a very specific curriculum. When Bill started this Avalon forum, I saw that he came to the conclusion that I did, in that all-comers forums will not work for subject matter like this, and I will always be grateful to Bill for mounting it. However, even with Avalon, although they are keeping the obvious trolls at bay, I discovered early on that I am trying to teach algebra with people who are still learning arithmetic, and I have not taken the curriculum beyond beginning algebra yet. That is not “elitist.” I just have calculus to teach, and can’t find the pupils yet, except for an Ilie here and there. That few people have the courage to even use their real names at Avalon tells me that the pupils will be few and far between. The fear of the anonymous says that they are not ready.

I sat at Mr. Mentor’s and Dennis’s feet for many years, and was taught by two world-class geniuses, but the real education was going through the meat grinder. I am still in awe of their talents and what they learned on their journeys, but I eventually left to do my own thing. I am hoping that something similar happens with what I am doing, where I become a learning stop for those who are going to make it happen. I am getting too old and worn out for the game. I maybe have another ten good years in me, where I can work twelve-hour days at my day job, run a household, maintain my health, and do the writing for my site and participate at places like Avalon.

It is true that I am here to teach what I learned, to the extent that it can be, but I need to get the calculus class going, and I can’t do it when the potential pupils are stuck in multiplying fractions. Many are not going to like to hear that, and I will be accused of playing “elitist,” playing guru, and so on. I will always be wary of that happening, believe me, but what I will be trying to do is teach calculus in a world where the public conversations are at the arithmetic level, if that. There need to be some calculus graduates who can form a nucleus of heart-centered awareness, or the FE train will never get built and leave the station. I highly doubt that mass movement, lowest-common-denominator strategies have much of a chance.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level10

I learned that game from the master, and saw the many downsides of that approach. Dennis eventually realized himself that his approach probably did not have much of a chance, but he incredibly still tries it. He did try to make the audience smaller and more engaged, but the Christianity, “Patriot” and commerce paths have huge downsides.

I am trying to form a class that will not sacrifice quality to water it down for the masses. The conversation will be publicly available, so anybody can take it, and it sure would be nice to see others begin similar classes (and some are), but people will have to pass some entrance requirements to be in the interactive part of the curriculum. And class will be free.

I have an ego like we all do, and I wake up with mine and have to deal with it every day, but I am doing my best to keep it in the back seat while I take on something with epochal importance for the human race. There were times when I had fleeting delusions of grandeur during my days with Dennis (when we flew high, it was high indeed):

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/conun.htm#grandeur

and I have seen many fall deeply into that pothole and never emerge. So, I will do my best to steer us all clear of that one. Dennis also got humbled with body-cavity searches in prison, and so on. Part of the challenge for those who walk the path very far is to learn how rare they are:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/camelot.htm#lonely

without letting their egos tell them how special they are. Oh, those like Dennis, Brian, Adam and the like are on special assignment, and that comes with unique blessings and challenges, let me tell you, but in the end, achieving humility in all of that is one of the greatest challenges, and I still work on it every day.

I hoped that that helped clarify my position. What I am doing is certainly not for everybody, but if that calculus-graduate choir can ever form, I think it will help.

I have a very busy weekend and next few weeks ahead of me, and I doubt that I will get my Brian essay finished before Thrive opens on November 11, but I am going to try. I will probably be pretty quiet at Avalon for a while, so I can get the other stuff done (how often have you seen me write that? )

Best wishes to all,

Wade

[CdnSirian]

Many thoughts flying re the above post Wade. I truly appreciate your strategy and I understand the "guru sensitivity" on your part and on your friend's who made that reference. While I am a nano-sized player in the outward game that is right now, I have been too close to the cult-mafias and I have been soul-cavity searched and thank god not the other. I too entered arenas naively, to help change the world and luckily was in the position to withdraw only somewhat scathed when deceptions became apparent. I don't feel that not using my name here, is cowardly, and maybe that can change. I am very cautious about participating in anything and prefer to give support in prayer and intent, yet this forum became compelling after I read your site and then saw discussion going on with you here. Am certainly wary of the wool being pulled over my eyes--yet this seems like different wool--organic, home-grown, not dipped in pesticide, and well spun. Wooliness to all, and very green meadows.

[sandy]

There seems to be tension throughout many of the posts here at Avalon and Nexus these days and I too find myself more anxious than a few months ago! I put it down to my comfort zone being stretched right now as well as all the grunge going on in the world today. Maybe it is more than that and I was wondering if others are experiencing the same.

This speeding up of things "theory" may have something to do with it also as I sure have a sense of urgency for the paradigm to shift. I have been contemplating taking a break from my two favorite forums but have not figured out if this is avoidance or time to step back for a breather. Your feedback and perceptions are appreciated as you are basically the only sounding board I have.

[Wade Frazier]

Hi all:

Briefly, because I am way too busy right now….

Hi CdnSirian:

I did not say that you were a coward, but I stated that people not using their real names is part of the problem with the Internet. Fear is really the only reason why people do not use their real names. Some can call it caution, but that is really the fear of an outcome that people are trying to avoid. I do not put a mug shot of myself on the Internet, so I won’t be easily recognized in public (people can still recognize me from the pictures that are out there, and they have). I suppose that can be called a fear thing. I don’t want to be approached by people on the street. I am an introvert, not a man of the people, and the nature of what I do brings up very strong emotions with people, to put it mildly.

I work at a dot.com, and am a life-long geek. Anonymity is one of the worst ideas to end up on the Internet (along with email spam, which could be easily prevented, but nobody wants to be accountable). There is no good reason for it (maybe one-in-a-million people need anonymity, like a legitimate whistle-blower, and even then, they really can’t hide for long). It encourages people to act like children, in a bad way. The problem is partly structural, in that such a system was encouraged. But, for the conversation that I plan to mount, nobody is going to play the anonymity game. It is time to stand up and be counted, not act like some secret society. Again, this is a structural issue, and it can be called poorly conceived, but it might have been diabolically conceived, like so much of our indoctrination and conditioning. We all need to step up our games to get over the hump, and shedding such bad conditioning is part of the process.

Here is an example of how the system works to indoctrinate people into the darkness. I work around lawyers every day. In law school, they are trained to argue any position. In theory, it is to develop professional skills, so they can serve their client, innocent or guilty. What it does, however, is encourage lawyers to become BS-artists. That training to argue any position is part of their conditioning that turns the goal of lawyering from justice (if it ever was) to winning. It is similar to medical doctors being indoctrinated into knives and drugs.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#training

What is right and just becomes secondary, and often a distant second. I have seen how truly meaningless the justice idea can be in the minds of those in the legal system:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#care

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#lie

So, the lawyer-in-training learns to argue any position, which serves them well, if winning is the overarching goal. I have seen people close to me become lawyers, and watched them go in starry-eyed, to see them later emerge from the lawyering process bitter and cynical. The adversarial nature of the American legal system is also something that will become obsolete in a world of abundance. Wrong thread. Sorry Ilie!

Hi Sandy. I would follow your intuition. Take a break. These are intense times. When times get intense, it is not easy to hang in there. Being an American after 9/11 and for the invasion of Iraq was a nightmare that continues.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#invading

Now with NATO being unabashedly on an offensive mission, to topple the governments of strategic nations, especially ones with oil ( ), to install our puppets, times are grim indeed. The energy situation is directly related to the international financial crises, and stealing other nations’ hydrocarbons, while killing off large fractions of their populations, certainly will not turn out well.

I have a bunch of psychologist pals, and when I saw those World Trade Center towers smoking ten years ago:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/cover-up.htm#sept11

I knew that there would be no shortage of work for the profession, and it has been that way, although playing the Mengele game with people at Gitmo and elsewhere is a black mark for the profession.

The general levels of stress are highly elevated, and have been so for some time. In the USA, everybody over fifty knows that their careers are over if they lose their jobs. I have been at the same job for eight years and looked forward to taking a year off when my day comes (everybody’s day eventually comes, especially in high tech), but I have been told that I can’t do it. If I do, I will never work again. So, I am on a march of doing it until my health fails or I am finally put into involuntary “retirement.” I know people older than me who lost their career positions ten years ago, and their careers never recovered. Now, that is just the USA, but all industrialized nations are feeling the strain right now. Bush’s handlers worked for the dark side of the force, as do Obama’s handlers. I don’t consider the American president to really have much power, but the kinds of imperial behaviors that I am seeing is a symptom of some really bad stuff happening behind the scenes, and it is playing out in increased stress levels that manifest in a lot of generalized tension. What you are feeling is accurate, IMO.

I look back at the last ten years, and we are in the transition times for humanity. On one hand, these times needed to come, but on the other, these sure are “interesting” times that we live in, and I hope to live to see us turn the corner, where we stop putting our toes over the edge of the abyss, and have interesting fun instead of playing chicken with the planet.

Gotta run.

Best,

Wade

[Gardener]

Hi Sandy and Cnd Sirian, I stand in a similar place I think, maybe we are not quite so imobilsed as we or others think. It is very easy to fall in the hole of deception and be of no use to anyone, effectivly silenced. Like this thread (and others like it) are silenced on 'Avalon' as a whole, by that I mean look at the 'thread sliders' at work right now its appaling.

This work, the work of any who break free is a very ancient art/skill bringing with it a great deal of pain and also responsibility. Once past a certain point or threshold it can become easier because we see more, and therefore are better able to avoid the 'holes of deception'. Which in turn brings us to a place of being less prone to the pitfalls of the matrix/general law, and a safer protective cage from within which to operate.

Hi Wade
I disagree with your conclusion of why people use a different name than our given name on a forum, it surprises me that you have reached that conclusion. Firstly on the surface it seems that to use your given name is to not fly beneath the radar, thus inviting attack, but secondly who is 'cathryn' I don't know who 'cathryn' is yet. Gardener is who I am for now, I sow seeds, I tend the seeds I grow, I grow with them. I am sure you understand what I am saying here. You have a great website with a lot of energy Wade, it is not being wasted. It is as much our resposibility to assess who our mentors are, as it is to be 'selected' to become a 'pupil'.

Gravity waves are not always the same! The weight is sometimes easier to move, we move towards that place however! (from a NON mathematical person called gardener)

Much love

best
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[Wade Frazier]

Hi Gardener:

I guess that I have too much experience in Internet forums to buy the “I am not sure who I am, so I am Mountain Buck in this forum” line of logic. Maybe that is where you are coming from, and that is OK for you. You have admitted your timidity already in this forum, and I sympathize, but I am looking for people who are a little courageous. I already gave an example of the kind of forum that I have in mind:

http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?act=idx

It is a cyber-gathering of real people, not a masquerade party. It is like “Hi, I am Wade Frazier,” and the others I interact with will do likewise. All the nom de plume stuff has no place in my plans, and will weaken them. The Big Boys play the anonymous game, with all of their secrets, etc. I am playing a different game. If I end up playing it with five people, that is OK.

I have seen anonymity extremely abused in cyberspace, and I am not the only one who discusses it:

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2193392,00.asp

I take people who do not use real names a lot less seriously than I do people like Ilie. For the rants that Ernie sometimes makes (which he also apologizes for ), he is using his real name, and I take him seriously, if for no other reason than that, but Ernie also brings plenty to the table. For all I know, there are fifteen-year-olds posing as adults at Avalon, and vice versa, and so on. That is part of the problem with cyberspace. Because Bill was able to create a cloistered forum, I have seen quite a few posters get lulled into a sense of complacency and misperception. If I was doing this in an all-comers forum, trolls would camp on the threads, and some would be professionals, and I suspect that there are people at Avalon on the payroll who are, as you have noted, trying to lead the conversations astray in subtle ways, instead of playing outright troll.

When I get that forum going, there are going to be a bunch of forces arrayed against it. At some level, all people understand that I am advocating the end of the world as they know it, and nobody has a lukewarm reaction to it. People in my circles receive death threats and murder attempts, and they are usually also ostracized by friends and family, because they broke out of the herd. That is the standard fate of whistleblowers, too:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/cover-u...whistleblower1

Adam’s “one-murder-attempt-per-year” statement in his interviews with Scott is more extreme than most of my fellow travelers receive, but to “join the club” of high-level FE activists, you have to survive at least one murder attempt – and that is why I am only a squire. That stuff just comes with the territory. Dennis is probably alive because he is too much of a folk hero to rub out. His visibility may have saved his life, and he likely has “protection” from otherworldly places.

I plan to play the game at a level where I don’t receive death threats and murder attempts, but we will see. Some people think that that is what I am heading toward, and maybe I am, but I am trying to avoid it. I am not looking for heroes, but people also need to be worldly enough to smell Godzilla’s minions when they show up. That is why I made those Godzilla posts:

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post305681

He is watching, and there is some evidence that he is sniffing around. There are many ways that what I am attempting can fall off the rails, and I will be aiming for the highest that I can for starters, and I will insist that the effort is made of real people. We are going to be on stage, and a big part of my intent is to help people find their courage, and a bunch of anonymous people sure aren’t going to inspire that. My intent is highly specific, and does not mesh with playing the anonymity game. Enough said.

Best,

Wade