The case for Christ

[Krullenjongen]

This is for all people who would like to know some more about the christian faith and about the Man who's name everyone knows.
It will give you some answers about why the new testament is reliable, did Jesus really live, is there any truth to the stories of miracles and the claim Jesus made of being the Son of God.

If you are open minded and like to follow this atheistic lawyer on his journey of discovery, this is for you.
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The case for Christ

Has anybody ever compiled the evidence to determine the case for Christ? As a matter of fact, Lee Strobel, an atheist at the time he undertook this endeavor, decided that he would prove Jesus Christ to be a fraud by the weight of the evidence. Strobel was certainly qualified to undertake such a task, compiling the case against Christ. He has a Master of Studies in Law degree from Yale Law School and was an award-winning journalist at the Chicago Tribune. Strobel's area of expertise was Courtroom Analyst and he rose to the rank of Legal Editor of the Chicago Tribune. Furthermore, Strobel was not biased towards defending Christ - he was an atheist!


Source: Watch on Vimeo

[ROMANWKT]

HI Krullenjongen

It does not matter what degrees Lee Strobel has, most of the time it means that they are deeper in the rabbit hole than most of us, secondly, you are dealing with a Jewish theology, which quite plainly says that we are waiting for a messiah named EMMANUEL, so who is Jesus??? the west had to have their own hero,as Jesus, isn't also funny that the only historical evidence of a man called Jesus was mentioned 300 years after his death. It has also been noticed that he is mentioned it the Quran from Islam which is 1'400 + years old , as he, Jesus is mention by Mohamed, and that is still 600 years after Jesus death. what Jesus taught to the people, nobody has any arguments about that, the work is good and of spiritual value, the only argument is that there is no proof that such a person named Jesus existed.
kindest regards
roman

[truthseekerdan]

Posted by ROMANWKT (here)
...what Jesus taught to the people, nobody has any arguments about that, the work is good and of spiritual value, the only argument is that there is no proof that such a person named Jesus existed.
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Is there any more proof or evidence that Buddha existed?

[ROMANWKT]

Posted by truthseekerdan (here)

Posted by ROMANWKT (here)
...what Jesus taught to the people, nobody has any arguments about that, the work is good and of spiritual value, the only argument is that there is no proof that such a person named Jesus existed.
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Is there any more proof or evidence that Buddha existed?

Hi truthseekerdan

We'll we need to ask a Buddhist on both of our behalf, as I was brought up as a Christian??
Regards to you, and I like many of your posts here.
roman

[truthseekerdan]

Hi Roman,

As for myself, don't need to ask anyone, except for the divine within to find 'my answers'.

Much Love & Wisdom ~ Dan

[RedeZra]

if the New Testament is true


then heaven and hell is real

and sudden destruction will come upon the earth just as in the days of Noah

and only the righteous will supernaturally be lifted up to safety

at the end of the age


if it is true

[GCS1103]

Hi, Krullenjongen-

I'm happy to see you are still with us and I like your thread. I think many people will post here because there is such a diverse group of members with so many beliefs. I respect them all. A world with lots of different beliefs is an interesting place, I think. As you know, I'm a Christian too, having strayed from the standard Jewish thought regarding Jesus. I keep Him in my heart and have personal peace because of Him. I don't ever push my views on anyone, they're just my own.

I hope lots of members post here- it will be interesting to read how everyone feels about this. One interesting side story- when I was at the Awake and Aware conference last month, someone asked Bob Dean if he believed in God. He said he gets that question all the time. His answer was "No, I don't believe in God. I know there is a God." I will have to ask him how he defines God because the conversation ended with his answer.

Anyway, my friend, I hope you are well.

[Camilo]

Christ is a state of conciousness not a person.

[RedeZra]

Posted by Camilo (here)
Christ is a state of beingness/conciousness not a person.

i am in a state of being or consciousness and i'm also a person ; )

[another bob]

https://youtube.com/watch?v=e64ea...eature=related

Blessings!

[Lifebringer]

The bits and pieces of "the books" as Revelation tells make up the whole religion of Christ, at least that is what another Holy book supposedly written by celestial on the full life of Christ. It was found during the 40's ina pyramid and was a blue book. I have read all that has been translated into English as this is my language and I have to rely on the translation from other ethnicities. I found the Urantia Book was quite enlightening and bought together all the religions. It took me five months to read the whole thing, as it started with the "brackish waters" that mammilian life evolved from and up until the right moment, to install the essence and reincarnated soul of God on this world to know and live amongst men and women of the planet that under his will was created. Sorta chilling with the creation to see if all he did was substancial and to join all as a human family on the planet, not tethered to religious ideology, but the teachings for peace, love and to tell of His Father's kingdom, NOT of this world.

With this material world being only in the 3rd, and so low down the vibration was barely heard, until man/woman called upon him for help during times of distress. I was never an athiest, but did seek the truth from all the books combined and that is my reasoning for my understanding that even though his name is called in different languages, he is still the one God on this planet. Lucifer and his fallen band were jealous not just of Jesus/Emmanuel/Michael's creation, but of the very works he did to enlighten man. He also had respect for the female of humanity, as they too are part of the creative mind in which he used for the planet. Before Adom, there was another homosapien female that was instilled with the holy spirit among the tribes of smarter mammals, and ergo the reason for the history channels discovery of the first EVE which looked like simian. If you delve into looking for truth, it will come. It may not be what you thought it was, and amazingly tough to accept after so many have changed or omitted the text to suit their own purpose, and NOT Jesus. The reason for turning over the money changers tables and everything was in there, so the detail in which the celestials explained it, was for "this generation" to utilize. It said so. I understood it perfectly, while they did say at the time of it's discovery, some would not understand it as it wasn't for them or their time.

It was a very good read and to this day, I remember the many names before the re-incarnation among man to know them. Some were Emmanuel, Jesus, and Michael, the original name on other planets he created life on. You see a God has to create on 7 planets before he can sit beside the Father. Earth/Urantia, was Jesus/Michael's 7th planet, according to the text.

[Amysenthia]

I just wrote a very long reply to this post about my personal perspectives about "Jyeshua" and when I was just about finished it was all wiped out. This has happened before and don't understand what is going on with this. I am not going to retype everything again but just want to post my personal experience of having had a very expensive past life regression with a very reputable hypnotherapist in which I found myself living among the Essences as a male in that life being taught by the master called Jyeshua", about healing. He was opening up our chakras,( much like a Reiki session today), and telling us about the power to control our vibrational fields. How interesting that I am in medicine in this life.) Although a very unorthodox member of it. However, I would also say that people should not confuse that Jesus of the Bible or "Jyeshua", would only agree with the Golden rule, Mathew Chapter 7. "Do not judge, Do onto others as you would have done to you, and Love your neighbor." The rest of the bible and chrisianity is religulous, ( to use a Bill Maher pun), and not to be followed.

People need to do their research about the origins of the Bible and realize that it is an ancient product of the NWO that even then was positioning their power to control the masses. Does anyone that has traveled Europe not wonder how the giant, expensive Cathedrals were built with the money of working peasants if not through the fear and guilt of giving over their hard earned money to the church. The "CHRISTIANS" were owned from birth to death by the church. Not what the real Master would have wanted.

If anyone is interested in starting a post about the real Master: Post an answer to start the discussion and lets do it. If not I assume most people that come to this site are not leaning toward this subject.

[Godiam]

Posted by Camilo (here)
Christ is a state of conciousness not a person.

Yes, Yes, Yes!!!

Jesus was the man on the cross,
Christ is the ENERGY,
This loving peaceful feeling,
Is available to You and Me

[Amysenthia]

To answer the recent posts Christ or Christos is a vibrational field but was and has been at certain times incarnated in a person. The christ state is a state of being that all of us can and should ascertain.

[Mu2143]

Christ is not a state of conciousness ,but a being of love. He represents what we normaly are. Because of our condition we ether return to what we always have been or NOT.

This Christ Conciousness is another religion which does not focus on the solution everyhting we are as A HU-Man Being is what the spirit is not.

Remember Satan is a Master Deceiver and Manipulator, so it is not obvious your being deceived.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=RSPBtuPPjYo

For some reason the video does not start in the begining

[Davidallany]

Is there any more proof or evidence that Buddha existed?

Only through books, written by Allah knows who.

[another bob]

Posted by Amysenthia (here)
The christ state is a state of being that all of us can and should ascertain.

Greetings, Friend!

For the benefit of the consideration: if one is not already aware of what the so-called christ state feels like, then they must be dreaming. In fact, we are all intimately familiar with this state, since we are not now, nor have we ever been, separate from it. We generally understand this, except when we assume a human birth (itself of the same nature as a dream) which comes with a built-in amnesia factor, just so that we can grant a sense of reality to the creation (for obvious reasons).

Being raised a devout Catholic, I took a big interest in the concept of becoming "Christ-like". It just seemed like the right program, especially considering the alternatives. I even signed up for the seminary at 13, and spent the next 7 years doing my best at the project of trying to turn myself into what I already am and always have been. I realized along the way that you can't become Christ, you can only stop acting like anything other than that. We like to think in our naivety that Jesus always acted Christ-like, but I doubt it. Part of the deal with being here is screwing up, failing. That's how we discover what we're made of, and how to determine what's real from what's false.

Blessings!

[Amysenthia]

Christ is a state that is only recognized through LOVE!! Not Allah, or anything else, God bless and all! REALLY. Don't start Dogma here

[Tony]

There is an unbroken lineage from the Buddha until now.
Padmasambhava (the second Buddha)was predicted by Shakyamuni Buddha:
Fifteen years after my death, one will come with greater capacity than myself – one with the power to establish the teachings of Vajrayana in the world.


An authentic lineage in Buddhism is the uninterrupted transmission of the Buddha's Dharma from teacher to disciple. The transmission itself can be for example oral, scriptural, through signs, or directly from one mind to another. Several branches of Buddhism, including Zen and Tibetan Buddhism maintain records of their historical teachers. These records serve as a validation for the living exponents of the tradition.

The proof is always in the teachings, of any master.

[another bob]

Posted by pie'n'eal (here)
There is an unbroken lineage from the Buddha until now.
Padmasambhava (the second Buddha)was predicted by Shakyamuni Buddha:
Fifteen years after my death, one will come with greater capacity than myself – one with the power to establish the teachings of Vajrayana in the world.

Greetings, Friend!

Shakyamuni Buddha and Padmasambhava appeared nearly 1600 years apart.

Blessings!