Ron Paul (2010-2011)

[norman]

But even if he got elected, and I still think it's a possibility, what could he stop?

[Aryslan]

I support Dr. Paul very much; wouldn't it be funny though, if he won and became the biggest dictator this country has seen? That would just figure.

@norman: He can stop plenty if he chooses, if given executive power. He can disband the fed, call our troops home, cut military spending, etc. He can't exactly do whatever he wants, but he could indeed make significant changes.

[Camilo]

Ron Paul is the man!

[spiritguide]

With the right people a good portion of what's wrong with this government. Stop the wars and their costs, re-establish habias corpus. and eliminate the fed bank. Just those three things will change the world for the better.

[D-Day]

This figures shown in this report are hardly surprising.

No prizes for guessing why the MSM is passive-agressively sabotaging Ron Paul's campaign efforts.

As much as it pains me to say it, he really doesn't have a hope in hell of winning the next election IMO.

MSM will see to that by doing everything in their power to sway public opinion against him... or by directing their attention towards other "more desirable" candidates.

Such a sad state of affairs, really!

[norman]

I haven't yet written off the idea that if the 'elite' can get all their ducks in a row by next year, they might actually WANT Ron Paul to win!

After all, once they have gutted America to make way for the NWO, they will be quite happy to have a bloke in the Whitehouse who takes care of Americans again. All these corporate puppets have been put in to get to the point where they can get their NWO. Once they know they are home and dry, they will gladly passify the people with a president they love. It will all help to bed the new system into place.

[Lost Soul]

That the MSM dislikes and fears him is endorsement enough.

[PathWalker]

Posted by norman (here)
But even if he got elected, and I still think it's a possibility, what could he stop?

It is about rebuilding a new economy, once the old one crumbles.

[PathWalker]

After all the leadership is a reflection of the nation.
So far the USA people sold up their freedom and liberty for greed.
We will see how they awaken and take back their power, or they don't. It is their choice.

[Davy]

Posted by D-DAY (here)
This figures shown in this report are hardly surprising.

No prizes for guessing why the MSM is passive-agressively sabotaging Ron Paul's campaign efforts.

As much as it pains me to say it, he really doesn't have a hope in hell of winning the next election IMO.



MSM will see to that by doing everything in their power to sway public opinion against him... or by directing their attention towards other "more desirable" candidates.

Such a sad state of affairs, really!

Or like the case with Bush,,,, they can just change the votes! or Easier than that just manipulate the masses with media and lies and the sleepers will vote for the candidate most favorable for the cause of the Elite! While thinking their vote makes a difference??@!

[Syl]

Srry for starting a whole new trhead,.. however, i've been wandering about this for quite some time, not really in a seriously omg conspiracy theory kinda way,.. but still.

Ron Paul has been one of the most consistent republicans right? Always standing for what he believes in... well, why isnt he dead?

Kennedy dead, inventors die,... people dissapearing for odd reasons...

Ron Paul, still here.. given the fact he goes so far back,.. i just think its odd.

Could it be Ron Paul is some sort of final pawn?
Or is he truly a rigid believer, whom tptb didnt suspect to be a 'problem'

Maybe i'm spending to much time here to have such thoughts.. still

Peace.

[christian]

TPTW are anything but almighty, they just want to appear this way. At some point, they cannot kill every decent man anymore, but they will surely try to demonize him, actually they already do it And they left out his name when mentioning straw poll results and he gets the smallest amount of time during debates. Anyways, truth is rising, kill him and spur 10.000 others to follow in his footsteeps. That's why it's 'TPTW', their game is over.

Yet, we never know, they could pull a never before seen stunt on him and replace him with an android. But I figure, there are more good forces at work than evil, to speak in dualistic terms, and Ron Paul surely gets protection and support from high places.

[modwiz]

He is still considered a joke by the heavy hitters. The media are ignoring him as much as possible to keep him marginalized. Also, he has a strong following with 2nd amendment types. With all of the people in the streets lately, mad as hell, taking Ron Paul out could start a fire that would be hard to put out before a lot of damage got done.

Lately, I have noticed that the old rules of the game are not applying so much anymore. "They" are holding on very precariously. Only the bars and chains we largely fetter ourselves with are holding the "old game" together.

Whatever we have learned up to this point, about the world, is almost useless now. Hurray!

[Ilie Pandia]

I believe that Ron Paul is not taken out because he alone has no real power to change anything

IF he gets into the white house, he will dance by the music (just like everybody else). If he refuses to dance... we'll see...

[Fred Steeves]

Ha, like a lot of us these days, I don't think Ron Paul is of any mind to be dancing to someone else's song sheet. Let the four winds blow.

[Calz]

Posted by modwiz (here)
He is still considered a joke by the heavy hitters. The media are ignoring him as much as possible to keep him marginalized. Also, he has a strong following with 2nd amendment types. With all of the people in the streets lately, mad as hell, taking Ron Paul out could start a fire that would be hard to put out before a lot of damage got done.

Lately, I have noticed that the old rules of the game are not applying so much anymore. "They" are holding on very precariously. Only the bars and chains we largely fetter ourselves with are holding the "old game" together.

Whatever we have learned up to this point, about the world, is almost useless now. Hurray!

I agree ... there is "change" in the air.

Let us remain open minded to "possibilities" even though we have to overcome years of "programming" regarding what is possible.

Bringing Jesse on board (which could happen if RP does not get the GOP nomination and runs independent) makes for even more interesting "possibilities".

[Limor Wolf]

That is a one big question.I learned to believe in the last few years that our systems,let alone the political one will not correct itself.it is obvious we need new systems. Is it possible that Ron Paul is a new breed politician that is allowed to walk around the field and do and say whatever he wants? I doubt that this is the whole case. it might be only for the sake of appearance.
I tend toward Ilie's approach and will bet that Ron Paul will succeed in nothing of what he now supports and vision.the first question we need to ask ourselves is how is he about to implement his ideas? whether he would be elected (which will not happen) he will need to play the game with all the old players in the field,and they,as we all know,will not one bit like to change the rulles of the game.

The question of why is he allowed to speak his mind so openly,in a time that the NWO initiators are racing towords their Final preparations towords one world Global agenda,is a real mystery. Are they so sure of themselvs that they will achieve their plans? do they like a little counter confronting to add flavor to their 'victory'?

all I know for sure is that Ron Paul is bringing awarness for the people and citizens of America.it is a lot in itself. however he will NOT be allowed to behave according to what he believes in if he will ever stand the chance to be elected to presidency.NOT A CHANCE.
and unfortunetly those who believes in that will experience a severe disappointment,when the Obama 'Dawn of a new day' story might very well repeat itself.

For now it seems,Ron Paul is doing his job,and he desreves that we salute him,( I have just watched His speech below wich Helen posted in her thread 'uprising of the people of the world' and I think it is brilliant!) but it is not less realistic IMO that we know that his participation is very limited and that this leopard might as well change his spots,whether he intends to or not.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=aGCrDdFE868

[wolf_rt]

Ron Paul will be president, if there is a country left to govern by then...

Unless Obama is removed from his office, and a election held in the VERY near future.... I don't know if there is enough time for all that voting the Americans seem to like so much....

I mean, there doing the peliminary 'unoficial' peliminary votes for who gets to run to run to be a candadate to run to be a candadate to run to be a candadate to run for president or something... It sounds more like a Monty Pithon sketch, than a system of government..... Is there really time for all that?

[Calz]

The "System" must go ... period.

If the system stays in place (as is) then yes it is rather a moot point who is in office.

Let's try to take the momentum building and "create" something more positive.

As David Icke so elequently spoke about in his recent 30 minute video from Oz ... certainly we need to have as many people become "streetwise" as to other forces trying to hijack the energy of this movement. We need to keep our eye on the prize and set an example in whatever ways we can for others.

What message would we give to suggest that Ron Paul would get eaten up, spit out (or worse)?

*Perhaps* today is not the same as yesterday???

[Fred Steeves]

Very good points Limor, I'm glad you elaborated. This opens the door to discussing the nuances in play here. I don't for one second see a "President Paul" as solving anything, quite true. The system can never be used to fix the system, the system can only be transcended. That's the little tricky trickster many fail to see.

Here is what I believe though to be the Achilles heel of TPTW. Neither Ron Paul the man, or any other individual or movement will solve anything. But, even though the stone sinks after being tossed in the lake, watch out for those ripples going out in all directions, on their way to becoming stones themselves, and so on.

Cheers,
Fred