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    How to Spot Psychopaths: Speech Patterns Give Them Away
    Wynne Parry, LiveScience Senior WriterDate: 20 October 2011 Time: 05:50 PM ET

    Psycopaths are estimated to make up 1 percent of the population and up to 25 percent of male offenders in correctional settings.
    NEW YORK — Psychopaths are known to be wily and manipulative, but even so, they unconsciously betray themselves, according to scientists who have looked for patterns in convicted murderers' speech as they described their crimes.

    The researchers interviewed 52 convicted murderers, 14 of them ranked as psychopaths according to the Psychopathy Checklist-Revised, a 20-item assessment, and asked them to describe their crimes in detail. Using computer programs to analyze what the men said, the researchers found that those with psychopathic scores showed a lack of emotion, spoke in terms of cause-and-effect when describing their crimes, and focused their attention on basic needs, such as food, drink and money. [10 Contested Death Penalty Cases]

    While we all have conscious control over some words we use, particularly nouns and verbs, this is not the case for the majority of the words we use, including little, functional words like "to" and "the" or the tense we use for our verbs, according to Jeffrey Hancock, the lead researcher and an associate professor in communications at Cornell University, who discussed the work on Monday (Oct. 17) in Midtown Manhattan at Cornell's ILR Conference Center.

    "The beautiful thing about them is they are unconsciously produced," Hancock said.

    These unconscious actions can reveal the psychological dynamics in a speaker's mind even though he or she is unaware of it, Hancock said.

    What it means to be a psychopath

    Psychopaths make up about 1 percent of the general population and as much as 25 percent of male offenders in federal correctional settings, according to the researchers. Psychopaths are typically profoundly selfish and lack emotion. "In lay terms, psychopaths seem to have little or no 'conscience,'" write the researchers in a study published online in the journal Legal and Criminological Psychology.

    Psychopaths are also known for being cunning and manipulative, and they make for perilous interview subjects, according to Michael Woodworth, one of the authors and a psychologist who studies psychopathy at the University of British Columbia, who joined the discussion by phone. [Criminal Minds Are Different From Yours]

    "It is unbelievable," Woodworth said. "You can spend two or three hours and come out feeling like you are hypnotized."

    While there are reasons to suspect that psychopaths' speech patterns might have distinctive characteristics, there has been little study of it, the team writes.

    How words give them away

    To examine the emotional content of the murderers' speech, Hancock and his colleagues looked at a number of factors, including how frequently they described their crimes using the past tense. The use of the past tense can be an indicator of psychological detachment, and the researchers found that the psychopaths used it more than the present tense when compared with the nonpsychopaths. They also found more dysfluencies — the "uhs" and "ums" that interrupt speech — among psychopaths. Nearly universal in speech, dysfluencies indicate that the speaker needs some time to think about what they are saying.

    With regard to psychopaths, "We think the 'uhs' and 'ums' are about putting the mask of sanity on," Hancock told LiveScience.

    Psychopaths appear to view the world and others instrumentally, as theirs for the taking, the team, which also included Stephen Porter from the University of British Columbia, wrote.

    As they expected, the psychopaths' language contained more words known as subordinating conjunctions. These words, including "because" and "so that," are associated with cause-and-effect statements.

    "This pattern suggested that psychopaths were more likely to view the crime as the logical outcome of a plan (something that 'had' to be done to achieve a goal)," the authors write.

    And finally, while most of us respond to higher-level needs, such as family, religion or spirituality, and self-esteem, psychopaths remain occupied with those needs associated with a more basic existence.

    Their analysis revealed that psychopaths used about twice as many words related to basic physiological needs and self-preservation, including eating, drinking and monetary resources than the nonpsychopaths, they write.

    By comparison, the nonpsychopathic murderers talked more about spirituality and religion and family, reflecting what nonpsychopathic people would think about when they just committed a murder, Hancock said.

    The researchers are interested in analyzing what people write on Facebook or in other social media, since our unconscious mind also holds sway over what we write. By analyzing stories written by students from Cornell and the University of British Columbia, and looking at how the text people generate using social media relates to scores on the Self-Report Psychopathy scale. Unlike the checklist, which is based on an extensive review of the case file and an interview, the self report is completed by the person in question.

    This sort of tool could be very useful for law enforcement investigations, such as in the case of the Long Island serial killer, who is being sought for the murders of at least four prostitutes and possibly others, since this killer used the online classified site Craigslist to contact victims, according to Hancock.

    Text analysis software could be used to conduct a "first pass," focusing the work for human investigators, he said. "A lot of time analysts tell you they feel they are drinking from a fire hose."

    Knowing a suspect is a psychopath can affect how law enforcement conducts investigations and interrogations, Hancock said.

    You can follow LiveScience writer Wynne Parry on Twitter @Wynne_Parry. Follow LiveScience for the latest in science news and discoveries on Twitter @livescience and on Facebook.

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    Default Re: How to Spot Psychopaths: Speech Patterns Give Them Away

    I love the fact that all of the speech pattern issues they speak of, which you can recognize a sociopath by and through... .....are the most common among corporate heads and politicians.

    One must understand that the unsuccessful sociopath is the one who is caught committing crimes.

    There are others. the 'others' are the ones who are "successful". Meaning, far more corporate heads and politicians than you might think.

    Oh yeah, can't forget the military. Great hiding spot or club there, as well.
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    Default Re: How to Spot Psychopaths: Speech Patterns Give Them Away

    Jeffrey Dahmer ... a bunch of uhs:
    https://youtube.com/watch?v=ErB0R...eature=related

    Ted Bundy ... a few uhs:
    https://youtube.com/watch?v=Vlk_sRU49TI

    John Hughes ... no uhs:
    https://youtube.com/watch?v=r_XsY...eature=related

    Ed Kemper ... no uhs, but a few uhs by the FBI agent:
    https://youtube.com/watch?v=_GSPFAd5XO8

    John Wayne Gacy ... no uhs (the hint of an uh when he was trying to think of a name):
    https://youtube.com/watch?v=mXvms...eature=related

    Charles Manson ... no uhs:
    https://youtube.com/watch?v=jaAcn...eature=related

    Tommy Lynn Sells ... no uhs:
    https://youtube.com/watch?v=6V7EL...eature=related

    Those are all the ones I looked at to see if I saw the pattern of psychopaths (or at least serial killers) saying uh or um to give them time to put on the mask of sanity on. Except for in the first two videos, it seems to me that psychopaths say uh or um much less than average. Maybe psychologists could have some use in analyzing someone that way, but for the average person it's probably easier to pick up on someone being manipulative or cold under the surface.

    One more example:
    https://youtube.com/watch?v=ThEAO0lt4Dw

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    Default Re: How to Spot Psychopaths: Speech Patterns Give Them Away

    Quote Posted by Carmody (here)
    I love the fact that all of the speech pattern issues they speak of, which you can recognize a sociopath by and through... .....are the most common among corporate heads and politicians.

    One must understand that the unsuccessful sociopath is the one who is caught committing crimes.

    There are others. the 'others' are the ones who are "successful". Meaning, far more corporate heads and politicians than you might think.

    Oh yeah, can't forget the military. Great hiding spot or club there, as well.
    I watched a programme about innate psychopathy and it actually said politicians and CEOs have a much higher rate of psychopathy than any other field because those are areas where it pays to be cold.

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    Default Re: How to Spot Psychopaths: Speech Patterns Give Them Away

    this sounds like a fear porn study to get people to suspect each other of being psychopaths...

    "that guy uses uhms... holy s**t!!!!... he's a psychopath".... lol

    I know lots of people that use "uhm" "ums" & popular in scotland is "em" or "eh" & use the words "because" & "so that" most of them would bend over backwards to help you out of kindness not psychotic tendencies.

    Not everyone is a psychopath funnily enough.

    either this is fear porn or the study was done by incompetent researchers.

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    Hmmmm....

    I wonder if "ya know" is also a sign.

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    I'll stick to my tried and tested strategy of running away very fast when someone finishes a sentance with "im gonna kill ya now... real slow"

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    How do they know the emotional dissonance wasn't just a post-crime coping mechanism that was more prevalent in some than others?

    Maybe the ones with the 'psychopathic' dissonance actually felt worse and the removal of any emotional value through mechanical/logistical approach was the only way to cope.

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    Quote Posted by Seikou-Kishi (here)

    I watched a programme about innate psychopathy and it actually said politicians and CEOs have a much higher rate of psychopathy than any other field because those are areas where it pays to be cold.
    The psychopaths have the very similar thinking processes as the politicians and CEO's. It's the total absence of empathy. Don't give s...t for other people.

    But this is very well known. Just look the pamphlets in Occupy Wall Street, "They are 10%, we are 90%". And they are very close to the truth.

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    Quote Oh yeah, can't forget the military. Great hiding spot or club there, as well.
    Military's upper echelon maybe.

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    Quote Oh yeah, can't forget the military. Great hiding spot or club there, as well.
    Military's upper echelon maybe.
    Don't take this as an offense please, but my psy-studies are showing that the people choosing the uniform-profession have normally issues to accept themselves as they are, so the uniform is some kind of refugee.

    Something to hide behind.

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    I, um, don't uh, buy into any of it, um, it sounds like a lot of quackery to, um, me.

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    No really, on a serious note... this is just like the movie "Minority Report" where eventually you can be held, questioned, and detained indefinitely based upon the pattern of your speech. These "non-biased" studies are no different than any other government funded think tank. They are looking for consensus... and the ability to perform their much utilized "preemptive strike"s on people as well as foreign governments.

    As Ali Ramone pointed out, there really are no patterns, BUT, you wait and see if kids don't get unexpected visits from alphabet agencies for their internet posts, based on these bogus findings. This BS "data" is no different than the climate/temperature data that was deliberately slanted, inflated, and outright manipulated (at the request of government no less) to give us cap and trade and carbon credits.

    It's ALL about fear-mongering, consensus, THEN, control. A slightly different twist on Icke's "problem, reaction, solution"

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    Um... you wanna take a ride, uh, down by the river in my, um, van?

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    Default Re: How to Spot Psychopaths: Speech Patterns Give Them Away

    What everyone seemed to pass by is the fact they are mining Facebook to detect personality types.
    Power is held by those (the psychopaths) who hold the definitions for the rest of us.
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    AMEN, westhill!!!!
    ALL of dialog is formulated and controled by the psychos at the top to get us ruminating on the softball questions, while the real travesties go on unnoticed.

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    One thing I just considered (I may be a little slow) is that without establishing this BS as fact, they would be hard pressed to justify across the boards data mining of the internet and telephone services. Yeah, and speaking of which... all you um, government agents, uh, here, and you know who you are (or maybe I am just a, um, paranoid schizophrenic) you can all go and ____ yourselves.

    Peace out!

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    Quote Posted by Second Son (here)
    No really, on a serious note... this is just like the movie "Minority Report" where eventually you can be held, questioned, and detained indefinitely based upon the pattern of your speech.
    Political correctness was the start now they are trying to step it up a gear, its a good thing that people aren't buying in to the lies of the governments any more.

    I was reading somewhere (can't remember where) that the pharmaceutical companies have come up with the apparent disorder called "Unrealistic Optimism Disorder" , I burst out laughing thinking brilliant the only reason they have come up with this is because they are loosing control... seems like more & more people are waking up & seeing the governments for what they really are

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    LOL, the writers of this article are equating certainty with psychopathy!

    This is pure horse-feces. This is also a clear example of how the media is attempting to spread fear around individuals who may be intelligent or perceptive. A handful of people in the Avalon community are incredibly well-spoken. These people would have you fear the legitimacy of their motives. All of the people I know who say "um" as if they badly need to de-fragment their brains have an IQ in the two-digit range. I can't believe people buy this stuff.

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    Default Re: How to Spot Psychopaths: Speech Patterns Give Them Away

    Is that a confession

    Quote Posted by PurpleLama (here)
    Hmmmm....

    I wonder if "ya know" is also a sign.

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    Quote Posted by Second Son (here)

    I was reading somewhere (can't remember where) that the pharmaceutical companies have come up with the apparent disorder called "Unrealistic Optimism Disorder" , I burst out laughing thinking brilliant the only reason they have come up with this is because they are loosing control...
    That reminds me, Alex Jones was talking about another new one recently: "Defiance disorder". I laughed so hard it was getting hard to breath. I suffer from both, so I wonder how many shrinks and pills it will take to "cure" me...

    Cheers,
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