Farewell Colonel, many of us will miss you.

[Lord Sidious]

Posted by astrid (here)
The way he was killed and the way they have dealt with his body, if half of what was published was true,
his spirit is very likely still very much with us.
And if so, i can't image he is going to behave.
Spirits often attach themselves to their killers, and they can cause havoc.
Somehow i can't see him going home just yet........

BTW, EXCELLENT thread LS!!
One of your finest..

Thanks nugget, much appreciated.

Posted by laughs-last (here)

Posted by Lord Sidious (here)

Posted by vibrations (here)
Thanks to the Universal laws all this people will find themselves living next life in some neanderthal society where they will be forced to repeat their lesson even under harder circumstances.

Maybe, maybe not.
What if they are merely actors, same as the Colonel?
What if they know it is a play?
What if the audience are the only ones who think it is real?
Would they still have to pay their karmic debt for their deeds?
What if they are only here to play their role and that role is that of the catalyst?

Yes they were a catalyst, they were the uncomfortable annoying alarm clock that you'd like to kick on the days you don't feel like getting up. However the wake up call was part of the script, however most of these cast, thought they were major role actors, how wrong they are and they get lead roles in their next life, however I don't think they'll appreciate the locations. Growing and change can be painful, however not all of us were comfortable being part of zombie nations.

ONE LOVE, BIG HUGZ and BETTER TOMORROWS

I think that the actors are volunteers.
I am one of the actors and we don't ''need'' to be here, so there isn't karma as such to pay off.

Posted by Calz_Avaretard (here)
Now this guy *really* tells it like it is.

Very important for Americans (those of the west) to listen to news sources from many countries. The internet is one of our greatest gifts and hope for a better world. Yes, as just mentioned, we need to make this stuff go viral.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=pfUBbvKTW3Q

WARNING
The beginning of this video is very graphic and shows the Colonels last moments.

[Davidallany]

Karma is there for those who wish to experience it. The moment you let it go, it is just gone forever. Karma to consciousness is like a nagging thought to the mind.

[laughs-last]

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=hUsWiIbZogM

ONE LOVE, BIG HUGZ and ALL FOR ONE AND ONE FOR ALL

[Calz]

Posted by Lord Sidious (here)

WARNING
The beginning of this video is very graphic and shows the Colonels last moments.

Quite right Sid. I appended your warning where the vid was posted.

[dourpil]

Huh.. I had started translating the first post of this thread to post as an article on facebook. And my internet browser crashed halfway through. That was sooo strange. Now I don't know if it means I shouldn't get too involved in this and not post it on facebook; or if it means "they"(?!?) tried to stop me.

That was strange :/

[Lord Sidious]

Posted by dourpil (here)
Huh.. I had started translating the first post of this thread to post as an article on facebook. And my internet browser crashed halfway through. That was sooo strange. Now I don't know if it means I shouldn't get too involved in this and not post it on facebook; or if it means "they"(?!?) tried to stop me.

That was strange :/

Best thing to do is not do it in the browser.
Cut and paste it into word or whatever you have for documents.
Then cut and paste that into your browser.

[Samsara]

Posted by Calz_Avaretard (here)

Posted by Lord Sidious (here)

WARNING
The beginning of this video is very graphic and shows the Colonels last moments.

Quite right Sid. I appended your warning where the vid was posted.

Thank you so much for adding this Warning. I did not watch the horror show. I have no need to, reading the comments of those who did is quite enough. I, saddly, can imagine. My heart cries enough as it is.

Thank you LS for this thread. Thank you All.

[Seikou-Kishi]

What happened to Colonel Qaddafi was nothing short of an atrocity.

Great thread, Sid. Hear, hear!

[Mad Hatter]

lets see now...

that was $9.5 million per day every day for 7 odd months spent by the US...

add to that approximately 2 billion pounds tipped in by the UK...

yet, for some reason that is totally beyond me, we just can't seem to get round to feeding and housing the poor...

what is it with politicians and gunboat diplomacy???

[Lord Sidious]

This is some traditional Libyan music.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=uUVqDVExol0

[Baron]

I've been doing some checking and the source of this list of information which you came by via disino.com also does not site a source for it either! And some of this I know to be totally wrong! Especially regarding the money Libyans wee supposedly getting or paying for stuff.

There's a lot of disinformation going on from both sides. Gaddafi was side swiped yes, but he was no saint either, in Libya or outside it.He brought himself into the rifle sights of the west, nobody else did decades ago!

If it was all so good the Libyans would not have risen up.OK the west fuelled it once it started but hey that's what happens.

But lets not forget his horrors!

The Killing of innocent the young PC Yvonne Fletcher in London outside the Libyan Embassy.

Lockerbie, downing Pan Am 103 a Boeing 747 jumbo jet killing all on board and wiping out a Sottish Village and many of its residents.

Training and funding the IRA to commit deadlier terrorism and also supplying the deadly Semtex brutally killing and maiming its innocent victims!

Funding and training to commit more brutal terrorism ETA the Basque separatist group! Result killing and maiming more innocent people.

Oh and so many more around Africa!

For any one of these he deserved what he got! Yet he only dies once for all his terror, and those he came for in the middle of the night, never to be seen again,or for the crime of just being of another tribe or not worshipping his rear end or even being more intelligent!.

The west has a lot to answer for , but Gaddafi was no saint to his people or those outside he cared nothing for peoples lives and this was just delayed justice!

It reminds me of the vicious school bully areal terrorist who finds he's not so tough as the years progress, and tries to pretend he's reformed especially when he knows his victims are onto him and are out to give him a taste of his own medicine now they are strong some years later! That's Gaddaffi. The west saw their chance and took it simple as that.But he deserved all he got the vain murdering fool.

Sorry to spoil the Gaddafi love fest here

[Lord Sidious]

Posted by Baron (here)
I've been doing some checking and the source of this list of information which you came by via disino.com does not site a source for it either! And some of this I know to be totally wrong! Especially regarding the money Libyans wee supposedly getting or paying for stuff. There's a lot of disinformation going on from both sides. Gaddafi was side swiped yes, but he was no saint either, in Libya or outside it.He brought himself into the rifle sights of the west, nobody else decades ago!

...

Sorry to spoil the Gaddafi love fest here

You might wanna go google ''joe vials + yvonne fletcher'' to see another side to that story.
On the Lockerbie story, there were CIA men on that plane, but they got off before it was too late, you might wanna check that up too.
As for the IRA, we have a problem, there are people who are trapped in a system they don't want, what would YOU do? Would you just allow the occupiers to continue to carry on like they have for 400 years?
As I said, I don't claim he was an angel, but I also don't believe all the rubbish that the west tells me.
I know what the western powers are and they are not powers with credibility.
There is much, much more to this than you know of.
This deal with Libya started well over a decade ago and they are knocking off one nation after another.
Syria and Iran are next.

[161803398]

That's the thing - I don't think people can wake up at this time - there's too much outside control - most of which we're not even aware of. We don't know that there aren't satellites out there specifically using technologies to blanket mind-control us. Even when it's "in-your-face", people aren't "getting it".

I know what you mean. I live in Canada but I grew up believing all those stories about America...in particular, that America was "exporting democracy to the world". I could never figure out what was wrong with all those weird South American countries where they actually tortured people and people "disappeared".

I didn't understand why there were so many wars because, in my observation, most people tried to get a long with each other and this was a nagging question.

I had other nagging questions too. The assassination of JFK being one. Why there was so much cocaine around being another. Why the Canadian government wouldn't allow people into the country if they were trying to escape fascist regimes. Why did the FDA keep banning health products I liked....the list goes on.

You know, its not that the information is totally unavailable to us. We are not like China to the extent that a lot of the information IS available: but before the internet, you had to happen to watch the right TV channel on the correct night otherwise you'd miss it. Today, you can miss it on the internet too if you don't look.

One day several years ago, being mad at Chevron, I decided to get a copy of the "Standard Oil Nazi Road Maps of Germany" which I had earlier seen by chance on the net. Well, that was the beginning of about two months of being utterly amazed and often confused. There is much disinformation as well and its very hard to tell who is doing what to whom and why. But, gradually, it all started to form a clearer picture.

I admit I had some help though from new Canadians who were able to answer my questions. Once I got start with this I was horrified. Once, I remember there was something in the news about some CIA cover up being discovered or proven. But it was something an Iranian guy had already told me about...ah, he had grown up knowing that very thing. Not only had he known it but the South Americans knew it too. Then I thought, oh my god, OUR news is THEIR history. Imagine!

[161803398]

Posted by Baron (here)
I've been doing some checking and the source of this list of information which you came by via disino.com also does not site a source for it either! And some of this I know to be totally wrong! Especially regarding the money Libyans wee supposedly getting or paying for stuff.

There's a lot of disinformation going on from both sides. Gaddafi was side swiped yes, but he was no saint either, in Libya or outside it.He brought himself into the rifle sights of the west, nobody else did decades ago!

...

Sorry to spoil the Gaddafi love fest here

You aren't spoiling it. I won't go into a long reply because I don't have time. Maybe read some of the posts on other sites about Gaddafi. Maybe question some of the activities of your government whatever that might be. And maybe question what right does one country have to invade another to commit murder.

[vibrations]

Posted by Lord Sidious (here)
You might wanna go google ''joe vials + yvonne fletcher'' to see another side to that story.
On the Lockerbie story, there were CIA men on that plane, but they got off before it was too late, you might wanna check that up too.
As for the IRA, we have a problem, there are people who are trapped in a system they don't want, what would YOU do? Would you just allow the occupiers to continue to carry on like they have for 400 years?
As I said, I don't claim he was an angel, but I also don't believe all the rubbish that the west tells me.
I know what the western powers are and they are not powers with credibility.
There is much, much more to this than you know of.
This deal with Libya started well over a decade ago and they are knocking off one nation after another.
Syria and Iran are next.

I am also totally convinced that from Alpha to Omega of Baron's observations nothing is what they presented us.
Just imagine 9/11. An elite group which visible part was a Lobotomized monkey aka Gorge W. Bush and they killed so many people just to guide the flow of the public opinion where they wanted, than please don't doubt they can with all their calm brush off any airplane, any individual, use any extremists to do what they want. The most important is DO NOT BELIEVE ANYTHING IN MSM.

[161803398]

And DONT get me talking about the IRA or I'll be here all day.

[jaybee]

Posted by viking (here)
I can feel a 'movement' going on here and other forums facebook/my space ect etc ...I really do believe this is a chink in their armour ... they played the wrong card...

We must all get this information out to the masses far and wide, don't rest on your laurels and keep the information within your mindset...paste it everywhere facebook/my space other forums twitter...This needs to go big time VIRAL... juts keep chipping away folks, we will get there in the end... go go go....

viking

I've got a thread going on a more mainstream forum...about the whole sorry business.

Well more mainstream than Avalon anyway.

The thing is that when the penny starts to drop with people on the internet, and forums etc...they will start talking to friends, family etc.

I agree Viking...there is a chink in their armour....and as more facts come out about what life in Libya was like for ordinary citizens when

Gaddafi was 'leader'......the lies will become more obvious. Plus the other stuff about the Gold Dinar etc

I've been using this forum as a kind of resource centre for my thread on the other forum...so cheers everyone!

And good thread, Lord Sidious....you tasty nugget..you...lol

[Baron]

Please I have been doing this stuff for three+ decades, I have researched all of this before from Pan Am, CIA links, Yvonne Fletcher, even before the net! You need to dissect your information Googleing does NOT mean truth or factual information, just because it comes from another source.

As for Libya on the ground many, many times and in every decade on matters of history, and that place was no Switzerland in North Africa as many dimwits have been professing on the internet! It's been posted by some idiots who never been anywhere sitting in an armchair in the USA pretending to be spy secret agent journalists repeating a bit of everything they can latch onto via the net even what you posted 2nd hand will now become conspiracy twit journo fodder as factual information!

So no I wont google those terms I know already all what they say. I may have even put some of it up there!

I have gone through far to much of this over the years and I know one thing getting at the truth is hard and even harder now because the propaganda machine is working flat out on the internet, its rife on the net and even in this forum. Many people believe stuff at face value especially if it sounds unjust...But you cannot do that when you find information with no provance, you have to go behind who wrote what, and who they are, what is their opus operandi? Many stories are aggregates Jeff Rense will have a go, then Alex "Nutty" Jones maybe crack pot Deagle and so on, and then the conspiracy sites there all in it to make bucks by enlarge, and they post the way they see the world with their own bias. Virtually none of them have gone to these remote out posts and seen these places for them selves or looked at the big picture and what's gone before.

The problem always is that quite often their is a grain of truth in something, but because its of national security the truth cannot always come out.

The West has a lot to answer for, but compared to what Gaddafi did, and did not do as some people have been fooled, by some flashy graphs and figures!

[Lord Sidious]

Posted by Baron (here)
Please I have been doing this stuff for three+ decades, I have researched all of this before from Pan Am, CIA links, Yvonne Fletcher, even before the net! You need to dissect your information Googleing does NOT mean truth or factual information, just because it comes from another source.

I think you need a reality check.
How many nations did Libya invade and destroy?
How much DU is all over the place from their use?
How many wars of aggression have they started?
How many cities have they nuked?
To say that Libya is worse than the west is intellectual dishonesty verging on nuggetry.
You sir, are trying to come across as a james bond type, yet all I see is an apologist for western aggression, much like you are trying to paint me and others.

[Coaxial]

Posted by Baron (here)
It reminds me of the vicious school bully areal terrorist who finds he's not so tough as the years progress, and tries to pretend he's reformed especially when he knows his victims are onto him and are out to give him a taste of his own medicine now they are strong some years later! That's Gaddaffi.

No, that would be the United States!

But thank you for sharing!