Planet X/Nibiru/Tyche/Hercolobus/Elenin

[Sidney]

Hi Bill, Thank you for that!! It also perked my interest that his colleagues have been threatened, so that tells me they may be on to something.

[Hervé]

A note of clarification on his "global earthquake" spiel, there is no such a thing as far as I know since that would mean the whole Earth's crust in every and each of its points would be an earthquake hypocenter... no one would be left to tell the tale.

What he is showing in support of his speculation is this:

That is, one big earthquake and its aftershocks somewhere like in Japan on March 11 (above left), and it gets recorded on every seismographs on Earth within a few minutes to one hour at the antipodes from the epicenter/hypocenter:

Click on picture to enlarge

There has been enough big quakes recently where he took his examples (China, Turkey, Chile, Mariannas/Kermadec) to send every seismographs around Earth off their recording range...

Taking this as an indication of an Earth expansion doesn't quite sit right with the data of most of these big quakes being of the "crunch" (compression) type rather than pure rift/extension type.

An expansion of the Earth would cancel subductions at active margins such as along the Rim of Fire and would only leave mid-oceanic ridges active... not quite the case.

As for that heavy, invisible object, as Bill said: to be followed since there will be only indirect indicators of its space location.

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I wasn't sure when I heard him say "This is Terral..." if it's the same guy as Terral03... so I checked the "Read more" section... and there he is; that same group:

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)

Posted by Calz_Avaretard (here)
Was still hoping to get confirmation regarding Saturn.

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)

Posted by Calz_Avaretard (here)

Could the photos themselves have been rotated???

That would still not account for the Saturn moon images ... nor the storm.

I think someone was having difficulties taking pictures with his telescope...

Dr. Byron Glenn is... that guy:

Cape doctor says he's not leading survivalist group and has been harassed by believers in 'Planet X'

Sunday, July 10, 2011
By M.D. Kittle ~ Southeast Missourian

Dr. Byron Glenn at Cape Urgent Care
(Fred Lynch)

Dr. Byron Glenn of Cape Girardeau says he wants nothing to do with the people he sees as online crackpots trumpeting a "conspiracy wrapped in an enigma."

He's not alone. The folks at NASA have fruitlessly tried to debunk what they say are wild conspiracies involving Comet Elenin -- a "wimpy" projectile expected to remain more than 20 million miles from Earth.

Glenn said he's been harassed and threatened by doomsday believers of "Planet X," an idea spreading in the blogosphere and in online chat rooms about a brown dwarf star, a low-mass object rapidly approaching the solar system and bent on destroying much of the Earth. He said that believers, apparently followers of Terral L. Croft, or "Terral03" as he is known in anxiety-ridden chat rooms, have shown up at his North Mount Auburn Road family practice demanding answers.

"I'm not the leader of any group. I can't tell people what to do. I don't want to," Glenn told the Southeast Missourian last week when asked about his connection to Croft's "research group," reportedly made up of people who plan to head for caves in Missouri's Ozarks in the coming weeks. The plan, according to Croft and a series of online correspondence in recent months, is to ride out the earthquakes, floods, volcanoes and other calamities they believe to be coming, thanks to the magnetic and polarizing effects of Planet X.

Croft, in letters to members of the group, describes Glenn as his good friend, a man he's been acquainted with for some time. He and others say Glenn is leading the Ozark survivalists. Glenn says he's never met Croft, a man he describes as "out there" and "on the edge," a Revelation chaser and Sept. 11 conspiracist.

"I am not the leader of any Ozark survival group," Glenn said.

Others say he is -- most notably Croft, who in his more recent Internet messages claims "our survival group leader and physician Dr. Byron Glenn and his engineer son" saw some disturbing things in their "expensive telescope.""Dr. Glenn was able to zoom in on the area of our dwarf star to realize he was looking at a monster of great size. We cannot see the actual dwarf star, but now he can make out the dark area and the dancing stars in the background created by the gravitational leasing effect," Croft wrote in his communique.

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Full article here: http://www.semissourian.com/story/1743142.html

Too many contradictions and 3D physical impossibilities from Terral03 who seem to be the actual author of that anonimous PDF/Scribb paper.

As for Saturn's tilt... here's what GLP's amateur astronomer has to say:

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Re: [+PIN+] ELEnin & Nibiru NEW Report... Holy SH*T READ THIS!!!!Quote [+] #
I read through the file. I've read hundreds of postings here and on other sites on this subject and found a lot of doomers and debunkers alike and I seriously don't know which to trust. Amateurs, "professionals", claimed professionals, religious quotes...You name it.
Quoting: Captain Spaulding 1366925

You can trust amateur astronomers. We have no reason or motivation to lie, and indeed we're telling the truth. We'd know if Saturn had experienced a "90 degree pole shift." It hasn't.

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... and this:

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Re: [+PIN+] ELEnin & Nibiru NEW Report... Holy SH*T READ THIS!!!!Quote [+] #

Errrr guys. If the gravitational pull from Nibiru was strong enough to tilt Saturn, those moons would no longet be where they are.

Just thought i'd point that one out.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1407727

Now *THIS* is a small, but very relevant, example of the "agenda" that I and Astronut and others are trying to get across...

...it's called education, logic, and common sense.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1198034

Look budy through the years many famous scientist of there day where persecuted for there theories for thinking out of the box. Are you 100% certain your correct because if you are your the first because no one has firm data on this object.

Quoting: ducati60

Then *you* explain how the gravity of an alleged brown dwarf (or neutron star, that's a nice one) passed by Saturn and did NOT change the orbits of the moons.

Well?

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Think of it... that's a major cosmic feat: Tilting Saturn by 90 degrees without flinging its moons in all directions!

I am in awe.

[RedeZra]

it's obvious that the PTB is prepared for an earth-shattering event

so why not a fly by planet

what else ?

[Lord Sidious]

Posted by RedeZra (here)
it's obvious that the PTB is prepared for an earth-shattering event

so why not a fly by planet

what else ?

Asteroid bombardment.

[RedeZra]

Posted by Lord Sidious (here)

Posted by RedeZra (here)
it's obvious that the PTB is prepared for an earth-shattering event

so why not a fly by planet

what else ?

Asteroid bombardment.

right it doesn't come alone ; )

[ShawnDotFree]

> I am tired of the mocking.

Much agreed, nearing. Mocking and pettiness will get us nowhere. Not that it is worth much, but I, for one, vow to keep an open mind and heart throughout the days and decades that lie ahead. With that in mind, we all have our gifts and talents to contribute, and I hope that we can all work together as we keep uncovering the truest and most inspired way to navigate our shared world.

[Carmody]

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Excellent question, DevilPigeon!

We've started a new thread to discuss this (right next to the one you started), over at Post formatting, color and bold fonts, and viewing themes.

Yes, I run with the 'gaian night' set up,and some text -I have to highlight it to read it.

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Posted by nearing (here)
I am tired of the mocking.

Bill, the problems you speak of have been problems for a good many years now and we are no closer to a real solution than we were when Thom wrote that book. I don't know what it will take to help rally everyone together to come to a solution but human history has shown they don't rise to the occasion until a major crsis happens.

However much our Consciousness is rising, a crisis of enormous magnitude is most likely what is needed. Perhaps this is why some of us look to ancient writings of cyclical events for HOPE.

Due to the 'human' nature.... it pretty well has to be an 'after the fact' type of (re)action.

Thus the line that in any protracted war of such a nature, a given 'side' tends to loose it's best, first.

this due to the aware components of the group stepping up to the plate and doing 'what needs be done' until the rest start to wake up.

[Marin]

Posted by nearing (here)
I am tired of the mocking.

Agreed. However, by design, given all the different experiences and perceptions of others, it's hard to avoid. It might even be part of the process. A shared dialogue. Sometimes it's uncomfortable. Sometimes the ego gets bruised. Sometimes a line is crossed but hopefully we're all better off having experienced it. (Well, at least some of the time )

Truthseekerdan posted a video not long ago on this thread that I thought was worth a second pass. I've highlighted a few bits.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=gIzZuuRpd6k

".....We can see that good and evil are affected by two variables: perception and scale... but all within the manifestation of consciousness from which they're manifested. One person may see good as something completely different than another and to a different degree. This concept is important when it's applied to your level of consciousness.

Throughout history man has allowed the church, the government and other factions to tell them what's right and wrong. One does not need a book nor laws written on paper to tell them what's right and wrong. One does not need a priest or a judge to interpret the language of the heart. Each of you were given this when you came into this world and remember... all is perception. To follow another person's perception of the ideals of good or evil means to be controlled."

[truthseekerdan]

Could there be a monstrous, undiscovered star orbiting our own Sun? Could it be scattering killer comets throughout our Solar System like clockwork every 26 million years? New scientific surveys are probing the edges of our Solar System -- a realm populated by giant worlds and mysterious planetoid -- hunting for Nemesis, the Sun's purported evil twin. We may be on the verge of discovering this ultimate death star, suspected of causing every mass extinction in Earth's history.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=72mdxdUg9to

Playlist: https://youtube.com/watch?v=72mdx..._order&list=UL

[gandra99]

China's space expedition is presented transparently on their recordings Blue Planet, which was parked near the Earth in the Solar System. Pay attention to the Blue Planet which is clearly visible in the sky and not Uranus, because Uranus can see from that distance in this volume. This is evidence that we lie.Ovo is no LENSFLARE This is podstojanai space PLANET who has entered the solar system. Earth's blue brother, whom NASA is hiding along with his poslušnicima.Ovo the official recordings, the Chinese space agency.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=NZ_1gC1Bh_o

[greybeard]

Could be anything gandra99 to my untrained eye.
Expert opinion would be good.
Thanks though.
Chris

[vibrations]

Posted by greybeard (here)
Could be anything gandra99 to my untrained eye.
Expert opinion would be good.
Thanks though.
Chris

I am afraid that the poor quality of the movie just doesn't give any option for an expertise. I would treat this kind of claims as junk. Maybe is just a CGI presentation for something.

[greybeard]

I have some faith in the Hopi as they are not "foretelling" the future but recounting from their history--- so at some point in time a blue "star" may appear followed by a red. That may be in my lifetime or a long way away--- who know????
I want to thank all who posted on this thread and the originator.
I believe all contributors posted positively and in good faith--- who can ask for more on any forum.
Regards Chris

Chris

[gittarpikk]

Just ran across this...
Maybe this was what Hoagland was making his prediction from...It's a good read ..

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ci...s_elenin04.htm

[jcocks]

Posted by vibrations (here)

Posted by greybeard (here)
Could be anything gandra99 to my untrained eye.
Expert opinion would be good.
Thanks though.
Chris

I am afraid that the poor quality of the movie just doesn't give any option for an expertise. I would treat this kind of claims as junk. Maybe is just a CGI presentation for something.

There was another post on this site of someone on youtube with video of a similar looking object close to the sun that he filmed from outside his car....
Maybe there is something to it all - would be interested to see if any other videos of similar objects surface anytime soon...

[ks4ever]

Just had a friend of mine drop in who had a photo of the sun to show me which he had just taken two hours previously with his mobile phone. This was in Glenrowan, Victoria. It showed clearly a large object just to the right of the sun with at least two smaller objects which could be in orbit around it. It is almost identical with the image posted by gandra99 and except for the colour it looks identical. It has become cloudy since and have not been able to take a photo to post. Will try again tomorrow.

[Unified Serenity]

I found this video and think it has some very interesting information, some of which we have heard before and some I doubt any of you have heard before regarding where we come from and why we are possibly struggling so much today.

I want to caution anyone who watches this though because there is a section in it that if you take it at face value could cause an unstable person some problems. Watch with care:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=o0pgGTz6Dec

[GaelVictor]

This seems to be, in part, in sync with the Kathars of southern France who were a gnostic sect. They also had a policy of not procreating.

Very interesting info.

[Vrilya]

]This deception has been going on for centuries........http://educate-yourself.org/nwo/illu...et8jun02.shtml
This is in 4 parts and I highly recommend reading them all, take what resonates with you and leave the rest......
Knowledge is our best defence

[AlexanderLight]

Blue Star Kachina: NASA, China's Space Program & Amateur Videos:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=VtB0tm7nMYo