Using a Ouija Board

[the_syrinx]

Hi everyone

I don't post very often but I have a question and could not think of anyone else except Avalon to ask for advice. I have a strong wish to use the ouija board right now. I've used it before but not for many years.

I have never had a bad experience with it. Right now I am facing many problems (who isn't ?!) but I really feel that now might be a good time to try.

But what do you think ? Is it a good idea, or no ?

Thanks.

[shadowstalker]

Use your true heart, if this is what you wish then do, remember the light/love and circle of protection.
If you had no issues before then you may not have issues this time, ask your guides, it may actually be them whom wish you to use that medium.
You know how to use it. keep in mind safe practice always.
It might be interesting if you used an electronic voice recorder as well. just for kicks.

[the_syrinx]

Thank you so much for this reply. I really want to do it, but need someone to do it with me !!!

By the way, is it better with three people than two ?

[shadowstalker]

Posted by the_syrinx (here)
Thank you so much for this reply. I really want to do it, but need someone to do it with me !!!

True (to a certain degree) do you have a friend close by who is into this kind of things ask them.

[shadowstalker]

Posted by the_syrinx (here)
Thank you so much for this reply. I really want to do it, but need someone to do it with me !!!

By the way, is it better with three people than two ?

It all depend upon the people involved numbers don't really mean much except to the fact that thoughts MAY inter fear with the individual trying to gain answers.

[the_syrinx]

Is it possible to do it alone ?

[shadowstalker]

Yes it is every possible to do it alone.
But you must have positive loving thoughts and ask you guides to be present for this to be effective in a positive way..
And it also depends upon many other things such as your inner sense and possible fear factors. you must think positive loving thoughts.

Some create a (C.O.P.) Circle of Protection with salt (Sea salt) crystals and stones and or candles. pointed the four cardinal points, North, South, East, West.
Some people meditate while using the board, (well you said you have done it before, you do what you know best.)

[the_syrinx]

Thanks again. I've done it before, yes, but never after such helpful advice, so the next time I do it I will be better informed.
Take care, shadowstalker.

[shadowstalker]

Posted by the_syrinx (here)
Thanks again. I've done it before, yes, but never after such helpful advice, so the next time I do it I will be better informed.
Take care, shadowstalker.

Do your self a favor and take note each time you use it, time of day, date, individuals involved and the like, it make for interesting learning and experience.

[greybeard]

Frankly I would not go there as with the best will in the world using the board opens the participants up to the lower astral.
That is not something that you would wish to play with.
Entities from the lower astral are very clever and can deceive the participants with some valid information and then you are hooked.

Best wishes Chris

[RMorgan]

Posted by greybeard (here)
Frankly I would not go there as with the best will in the world using the board opens the participants up to the lower astral.
That is not something that you would wish to play with.
Entities from the lower astral are very clever and can deceive the participants with some valid information and then you are hooked.

Best wishes Chris

I´m with you. Evolved entities rarely communicate trough these kind of devices.

Mostly, you´ll get in touch only with mid-low astral entities, who will just feed from your energy. Once they get addicted to it, you will have some problems.

[DeDukshyn]

Posted by the_syrinx (here)
Hi everyone

I don't post very often but I have a question and could not think of anyone else except Avalon to ask for advice. I have a strong wish to use the ouija board right now. I've used it before but not for many years.

I have never had a bad experience with it. Right now I am facing many problems (who isn't ?!) but I really feel that now might be a good time to try.

But what do you think ? Is it a good idea, or no ?

Thanks.

Very interesting timing ... My son has expressed a pretty strong desire to get a Ouija board lately ... He asked me if he could get one yesterday in fact ... I just thought I'd mention the synchronicity. In my opinion Ouija boards are only good if you don't take them remotely seriously (which also means they have no "real" use) -- many of the entities communicable in this way can use the power of the users own belief against them - this makes them potentially dangerous because belief is reality to the individual.

[NancyV]

The only way contact with astral entities is negative or "dangerous" is if you are fearful or easily taken in . If you have no fear and if you use great discernment, like not absolutely believing any message you receive, then you will be fine. If you are fearful of astral beings then it's better to not use a Ouija board. You can only be manipulated through your own fears and beliefs. There is no reason not to use the Ouija board alone. You know what your energy is like but you can't always be sure of another person and what they will draw to them. Whatever feels best to you, that's what you should do.

[the_syrinx]

Thank you, and it's probably nothing, although this will sound mad. Last weekend something brought the colour purple to my attention. It was at a local market and I was standing still minding a stall. After that people continually came into my view, and even close to me, and all of them were wearing something purple, even as subtle as earrings ! I told my partner who was sceptical but then he started noticing it, too. By the end of the day there seemed to be more purple around than any other colour. Could be an autumn colour trend, but it seemed very strange, as I've never noticed it before. Had a quick google but couldn't get any clues, except to find out that purple is the colour of high spirituality, amongst other things probably.

[WhiteFeather]

Found This Online: Have a looksy,,,,,,,Most paranormal researchers advise against the casual use of the Ouija board, suggesting that it can be a doorway to unknown dimensions. “The board itself is not dangerous, but the form of communication that you are attempting often is," says Ghost researcher Dale Kaczmarek of the Ghost Research Society. "Most often the spirits whom are contacted through the Ouija are those whom reside on 'the lower astral plane.' These spirits are often very confused and may have died a violent or sudden death; murder, suicide, etc. Therefore, many violent, negative and potentially dangerous conditions are present to those using the board. Often times several spirits will attempt to come through at the same time but the real danger lies when you ask for physical proof of their existence! You might say, 'Well, if you're really a spirit, then put out this light or move that object!' What you have just done is simple, you have 'opened a doorway' and allowed them to enter into the physical world and future problems can and often do arise."
But what if the Ouija really does not contact spirits? What if it only accesses our own subconscious? The advice might be the same. Since there are realativly few accounts of positive, uplifting experiences with the Ouija, and many negative ones, we might assume that it more attuned to the negative aspects of our subconscious.

If you're determined to use the Ouija anyway, it is highly recommended that you follow some rules of precaution:

Begin by announcing that the session will only allow an experience that is positive or toward a higher good and that negative energies are not welcome.
Don't ask for physical signs.
When you're done, close the board. This is an important step. When you're done with your session, slide the planchette to 'GOODBYE' and remove your hands.

http://paranormal.about.com/cs/ouija...aq_ouija01.htm

And This!

The Ouija board and its hidden dangers


The Ouija board has long been a popular method of attempting to contact “the other side”, and is probably the only product sold on a large scale for this particular purpose. The name “Ouija” is derived from the French and German words for “yes”; “oiu” and “ja”. The Ouija consists of a flat board upon which is printed the letters of the alphabet, some numbers, punctuation marks and with the words “yes” and “no”.. The participants proceed by placing their fingers lightly on a pointer, which then supposedly without the conscious effects of the participants moves to spell out a series of messages.

Many users of the Ouija board often regard this activity quite simply as a novelty for parties and other such gatherings, very often without fully realising the very real potential dangers of which there are many. The Ouija board can and often does work, and indeed many communications received can be from “the other side”. Unfortunately however many of these contacts are with beings residing in the very lowest levels of the Astral planes whose intentions are often much less than honourable.

As discussed previously, humans and other beings living in the lowest Astral worlds do so because of the dark, negative and sometimes very evil lives they previously led while on Earth, and accordingly now exist at these correspondingly low Energy levels of vibration. The danger with this is that the lower in the Astral plane the being exists, the easier it is for them to make contact with the physical world through the Ouija board, due in part to the inner relative densities and lower relative vibrations of the Ether.

The lower in the Astral worlds the being, the lower is their Energy vibration, usually indicating a correspondingly low level of trust. Always remember that these low Astral worlds are a perfect reflection of the character of these beings existing there. The more inner the being relative to the physical world, the more evolved and therefore trustworthy the being is, but at the same time the more difficult it is to contact people living in the physical world. This simple guideline should always be kept in Mind in these situations.

The beings of the lower Astral worlds will frequently revel in claiming to be Angels, Archangels, famous people or even God, while others will have no hesitation at all in claiming to be deceased people known to the Ouija board sitters. On other occasions these lower Astral beings might simply use obscenities, cursing and generally extremely bad language. Why do these lower Astral beings behave in this way? Aside from the fact this is very often the character of these beings, and hence the reason they inhabit the lower Astral worlds in the first place, their despair is often pushed to the extreme simply because they can no longer physically experience the things they once enjoyed and very often abused so much while still physically alive such as indulgence in crime, violence, excessive drinking, excessive drugs use and excessive sex devoid of genuine love, respect or passion. If they had any sort of reasonable capacity for love, loving thoughts or other positive attributes, they would not be in the situation they are in. If they even had the capacity to ask for help to relieve them of their misery, such help would be provided by more highly evolved inner beings if appropriate.

Mediums who have contacted beings at these low Astral levels often report extremely hostile, abusive and sinister voices. These are the voices of the very same beings often contacted through the use of Ouija boards. Unfortunately, because the users of the Ouija board are usually hoping for and therefore anticipating genuine contacts with inner-level Spirits, they will almost always be taken in by the deception of these lower Astral beings.

Sometimes this is all quite harmless, and although the Ouija board users are misled, there is usually no permanent harm done. There is a very real danger however of some lower Astral beings having much darker and more sinister motives. Such dangers include a lower Astral being for example posing as a deceased relative. Once the lower Astral being has been able to convince the Ouija board sitters they are indeed a deceased relative, they will often be very manipulative, proceeding to request or even demand certain things to be done for them, mostly with view to increasing it’s own strength of presence within the material world. Such requests are often carried out by the Ouija board sitters without question, not wanting to risk upsetting or offending what they genuinely believe to be a deceased relative, friend or inner Spiritual being.

Lower Astral beings do not like dwelling in their dark worlds, and will very often seize any opportunity to take control of a physical body in the material world. This could in turn very easily lead to a full possession resulting in all sorts of potentially nasty problems, including but not limited to very severe psychological problems. The personality of the possessed person might change dramatically and for the worse. The only solution to such a state of possession, is to exorcise the being from the possessed person. This might all seem rather dramatic after what started out as an innocent party game, but it most certainly can and does happen, and accordingly all Ouija board users should know the dangers beyond any doubt before using a Ouija board, even as a party novelty.

The Ouija board should always be regarded as a potentially very dangerous instrument and preferably avoided altogether. Those insisting on ignoring these dangers should at the very least be aware of the type of being likely to made contact with, and what their real motives often are. Any being claiming for example to be a deceased relative should be thoroughly tested by asking questions to which only such a relative would know the answers. The same principle also applies to all beings purporting to be Angels, Archangels or famous people. Such beings will in reality know very little about Angels, Archangels or the famous people they purport to be, and can therefore be easily caught out. Again, it is very important indeed to remember this sort of behavior is a reason why these beings are dwelling in the lowest part of the Astral worlds in the first place; they simply cannot and should not be trusted under any circumstances unless fully tested by an expert who understand these dangers.

Stoker Hunt, a person who carried out research into the effects arising from the use the Ouija board, summarized a common pattern of communication that can often develop when people make contact with entities within the low levels of the Astral worlds; he said:

“The invader focuses on the victims character weaknesses, if one is vain, appeals to vanity are made. ‘I need your help’ the seducer will say, ‘and only you can help me’. The entity is malicious and does not hesitate to lie, misrepresent itself (usually as a deceased loved one) and flatter. It’s better for the invader of course if the victim is alone, isolated and ill. If needs be the invader will terrify its victim, materialising in ghastly form, inducing grotesque visions, inciting poltergeist activity, causing objects to appear out of the blue, delivering false or tragic news, levitating objects, perhaps levitating the victim. All these things and more might be done, not as ends among themselves, but as a means to an eventual complete possession”.

It should be clear by now the Ouija board is a potentially very dangerous instrument indeed, especially for those who do not understand its fullest implications. Dr. Carl Wickland, an American psychiatrist, wrote his classic work on mental illness “Thirty Years Among the Dead” in 1924, within which he warns:

“The serious problem of alienation and mental derangement attending ignorant psychic experiments was first bought to my attention by cases of several persons whose seemingly harmless activities with automatic writing and the Ouija board resulted in such wild insanity that commitment to asylums was necessitated. Many other disastrous results which followed the use of the supposedly innocent Ouija board came to my notice, and my observations led me into research in psychic phenomena for a possible explanation of these strange occurrences”.

These are only a very few of the possible outcomes of the use of the Ouija board. It should be made clear however not all contacts by means of the Ouija board are malevolent, and there have also been many positive, long term communications where it has been possible to contact well meaning and friendly inner level Astral beings. One particularly noteworthy case was that of Pearl Curran who used a Ouija board with her neighbour on July 12, 1912. After a year of experimenting she began to receive messages from Patience Worth, a Spirit entity who claimed she was born in 1649 in Dorsetshire, England. Between 1912 and 1919 she dictated five million words through the board, including epigrams, poems, full-length novels, allegories and short stories. Her collective works filled twenty nine bound volumes, and 4375 single spaced pages. These works included five full length novels, the most successful being “A Sorry Tale”, a 300,000 word story of the earthly life of Jesus which was reviewed by the New York Times on July 8, 1917, commenting: This long and intricate tale of Jewish and Roman life during the time of Christ is constructed with the precision and accuracy of a master hand. It is a wonderful, a beautiful and noble book”. Patience Worth won many more accolades and awards over the years for a wide variety of literary work.

Another famous Spiritual entity who first appeared by means of the Ouija board called himself “Seth”, who first made an appearance when Jane Roberts and her husband first began using a Ouija board in 1963. The entity eventually introduced itself as Frank Withers who died in 1942 after his most recent physical life as an English teacher. He preferred to be called “Seth” and stated his mission as helping people to understand themselves and reality better.

Through Jane Roberts, Seth dictated several best-selling books dealing with the nature of reality, reincarnation, Astral travel, dreams and the nature of God. Seth also provided step-by-step teachings on meditation techniques and extra-sensory perception. He was also able to diagnose illnesses, correctly describe the contents of buildings and rooms many miles away, and materialised as an apparition in well-lit settings.

There have been many other such successful uses of the Ouija board that proved to be of great value to the people concerned, and in some cases, such as Seth, to humanity as a whole. This should not be taken as reason in and of itself to justify the inherent risks involved of using the Ouija board. James Merrill, a Pulitzer winner describes his Ouija board experiences when he wrote “The Changing Light at Sandover” in 1982. His frightening experiences including visions, bodily transformation, the feeling of powerful presences as well as more memorable and joyous ones are recorded in the poem. After thirty years however he no longer recommends people use the Ouija board because “one can never tell how susceptible a given person will be”.

On balance, the use of a Ouija board should be strongly discouraged. Due to the nature of the way this instrument functions it is much more likely to attract malevolent low-level Astral entities than well-meaning or even helpful inner-level beings. Those who do attract lower level beings ultimately stand a very high chance indeed of suffering possession and/or serious mental illness, both of which would be nearly impossible to overcome by modern medical means. The only solution to such a serious situation involving inter-dimensional forces would be an exorcism carried out by a highly experienced practitioner of which there are very few living today.


The most sensible solution therefore is to resist any such temptations completely, leaving the Ouija board and similar instruments such as a tumbler with playing cards and automatic writing very well alone for your own safety and for the safety of those around you.

OP,,,,,,Personally, I would stay clear from it.

[Unified Serenity]

You could always do a lesser banishing ritual first, and set the intention for only positive interaction, no energy suckers or fear inducing spirits. I also would not involve anyone of a young spiritual nature or not clearly set on a spiritual path as it's one of the easiest ways to come under the influence of lower astral entities.

[NancyV]

Posted by the_syrinx (here)
Last weekend something brought the colour purple to my attention. It was at a local market and I was standing still minding a stall. After that people continually came into my view, and even close to me, and all of them were wearing something purple, even as subtle as earrings ! I told my partner who was sceptical but then he started noticing it, too. By the end of the day there seemed to be more purple around than any other colour. Could be an autumn colour trend, but it seemed very strange, as I've never noticed it before. Had a quick google but couldn't get any clues, except to find out that purple is the colour of high spirituality, amongst other things probably.

Funny you should mention purple! I was just talking with a good friend of mine today about how much purple I was seeing lately when I go to bed. What I do is close my eyes and look out through my eyelids. This happened just last night at about 2am when I went to bed. As I looked out into a huge space and was seeing through my closed eyes, a field of the most intense and glowing purple appeared. I watched it pulsating and flashing for a while and then fell asleep. Occasionally I see blue but most often in the last year or so it's been constantly purple.

[the_syrinx]

That's interesting. It's never happened to me before, and I wasn't expecting it or looking for it, either. It's as if an inner voice said "look, do you see how much purple is around you ?" Fascinating.

[astrid]

Don't get me started.

I'v had to clean up many, many messes created by people playing with things they know nothing about,
that is the problem.

This is not a GAME, and its still sold as one.

In using a Ouija, you are opening a portal, that's what it does.
SO you can imagine the implications of this.

The last place i had to go and sort out, kids had been playing,
they had moved out, but the remaining housemates were left with the mess.

I got called in, the house was full of lower astrals.
doors opening and closing on their own, no one was sleeping,
lots of noises during the night including voices.

The girl who called me was very much in fear, which is why they had latched on so hard to her.
Another housemate, who was confident and not in fear, didn't have any issues with the entities, ( BIG CLUE THERE).

You can do it "safely" and have excellent results, but just do your research.
and make sure you are well protected, and that you open and close the sessions properly.
Yes lower astrals love these things, but you can program things to only attract the highest level beings too.

Mostly it depends on your vibration and intentions, If you have any doubt, fears or anxieties WHATSOEVER,
i would advise to leave it alone.

Like attracts like, don't forget that.
If your vibration is high and you are well protected, you are not at all attractive to anything in the lower planes,
they simply can't exist around that level of light.

But ulitmatley we are all made of the same stuff, aspects of creation,
just different levels of vibration.
Lower astrals are easy to move on, if you do cross that path let me know.

Really the only thing to fear is fear itself.
Its the fear, and the holes in your energy field that they attach to.
which is why people say that negative entities are really just a
part of your shadow self. They actually end up being the best teachers sometimes,
as they point to where you need to work on yourself.

Clearing out a house also involves working the people involved,
to do it properly anyways.

Always stay in love and you will be just fine......

[evancruz1]

My wife used an Ouiji board when she was younger, it seems some type of spirit has locked on to her and never let go. It has never tried to hurt her but she has had some strange visions. She has ran downstairs freaked out because she felt something pushing her into the bed. Or the bed will just move/bang into the wall with no warning... This continued for at least a decade...This has been difficult for me because she gets little or no sleep without me in the room. This however seems to of subsided possibly due to our personal journey of awakening. Possibly also due to the orgonite we always have with us now (Thanks Lilly!!).

She still has to have all doors and windows closed, if I'm not in the room a light will have to be on. I try and help her with her fears but she just can't shake it yet. I have been dealing with her experience for as long as I have known her.

Just thought I would share this experience in light of the subject. TY